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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3475 on: October 06, 2015, 02:32:52 PM »

Has anyone that is posting in here ever had a gun pulled on them?

I have
I have too. I'm just curious how many people that feel they must have a gun for protection or that carrying guns around makes them safe have actually had any experience with needing a gun. Or have had their lives threatened to the point that they would need one. Most all of the people I know that love their guns are scared white men that don't like anyone that is darker than they. Usually without cause.

I don't own a gun, and I don't need to own a gun to benefit from the deterrent of other people owning guns. So to all you law-abiding gun owners, thanks for helping me out! :cheers:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3476 on: October 06, 2015, 02:36:45 PM »

Has anyone that is posting in here ever had a gun pulled on them?

I have
I have too. I'm just curious how many people that feel they must have a gun for protection or that carrying guns around makes them safe have actually had any experience with needing a gun. Or have had their lives threatened to the point that they would need one. Most all of the people I know that love their guns are scared white men that don't like anyone that is darker than they. Usually without cause.

I don't own a gun, and I don't need to own a gun to benefit from the deterrent of other people owning guns. So to all you law-abiding gun owners, thanks for helping me out! :cheers:

Whoever got this narrative/logic to become common is a PR and marketing wizard or something. You really have to tip your cap to the NRA. It's quite amazing, and that's considering how stupid most people are.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3477 on: October 06, 2015, 02:46:17 PM »
The NRA is boss AF.  they combine the right amount of political donations with appealing to their base.  LaPierre a master

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3478 on: October 06, 2015, 02:54:56 PM »
They only spend like $3MM a year, too.  Chump change. 

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3479 on: October 06, 2015, 02:55:49 PM »
I've had a gun pulled on me before, but it made me want to do the opposite of buying a gun after the fact. Guns scare the crap out of me.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3480 on: October 06, 2015, 02:58:43 PM »
I've had a gun pulled on me before, but it made me want to do the opposite of buying a gun after the fact. Guns scare the crap out of me.

Did you call the cops?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3481 on: October 06, 2015, 03:01:09 PM »
I've had a gun pulled on me before, but it made me want to do the opposite of buying a gun after the fact. Guns scare the crap out of me.

Did you call the cops?
Yeah, it was in Oklahoma City. Not much came out of it. It terrified me, because I heard gun shots before the incident. I figured I was doomed. I have no clue if the gun shots were related tho.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3482 on: October 06, 2015, 03:07:21 PM »
They only spend like $3MM a year, too.  Chump change. 

not sure where you get that number, but even with a $300 million budget, it's still impressive http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/53-0116130/national-rifle-association-america.aspx

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3483 on: October 06, 2015, 03:13:52 PM »
They only spend like $3MM a year, too.  Chump change. 

not sure where you get that number, but even with a $300 million budget, it's still impressive http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/53-0116130/national-rifle-association-america.aspx

Sorry, I meant to say $3MM specific to lobbying, as in my head I was trying to size them compared to other lobbies, and they are quite small:

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000082


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3484 on: October 06, 2015, 03:15:22 PM »
They only spend like $3MM a year, too.  Chump change. 

not sure where you get that number, but even with a $300 million budget, it's still impressive http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/53-0116130/national-rifle-association-america.aspx

Sorry, I meant to say $3MM specific to lobbying, as in my head I was trying to size them compared to other lobbies, and they are quite small:

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000082

That actually seems like at least an order of magnitude too low, though.  Maybe the data is too specific/limiting.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3485 on: October 06, 2015, 04:32:41 PM »
I don't think they need to lobby that hard since the right to own a gun is part of the constitution. It's like lobbying for free speech or something.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3486 on: October 06, 2015, 04:39:07 PM »
It's like lobbying for free speech or something.

the ACLU does this

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3487 on: October 06, 2015, 04:42:17 PM »
It's like lobbying for free speech or something.

the ACLU does this

They stay pretty busy too
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3488 on: October 06, 2015, 04:47:01 PM »
The NRA doesnt care about anyones rights or any constitutions amendments. they care about the firearms industry's revenue and profits because thats who has them bought (and paid for)

is this a hot take?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3489 on: October 06, 2015, 04:56:35 PM »
It's like lobbying for free speech or something.

the ACLU does this

Maybe not a good comparo, since nearly everything is considered speech now. Maybe even owning a gun can be a free speech argument?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3490 on: October 06, 2015, 07:38:26 PM »
It's like lobbying for free speech or something.

the ACLU does this

Maybe not a good comparo, since nearly everything is considered speech now. Maybe even owning a gun can be a free speech argument?
lol no


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3491 on: October 06, 2015, 09:11:46 PM »
It's like lobbying for free speech or something.

the ACLU does this

Maybe not a good comparo, since nearly everything is considered speech now. Maybe even owning a gun can be a free speech argument?
lol no

If burning a flag is free speech, why can't shooting a flag be free speech?

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3492 on: October 06, 2015, 09:41:36 PM »
It's like lobbying for free speech or something.

the ACLU does this

Maybe not a good comparo, since nearly everything is considered speech now. Maybe even owning a gun can be a free speech argument?
lol no

If burning a flag is free speech, why can't shooting a flag be free speech?

I like to use nuclear weapons to desecrate the flag #comeandtakeit #1a
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3493 on: October 06, 2015, 09:42:16 PM »
good grief, JD. You really need to improve.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3494 on: October 06, 2015, 10:09:02 PM »
What the eff. A bull was assassinated at kstate. With a gun.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3495 on: October 06, 2015, 10:15:02 PM »
It's actually strange cows aren't murdered more often, considering all criminals know they have no Right to Bear (and never do).

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3496 on: October 06, 2015, 11:48:27 PM »
good grief, JD. You really need to improve.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3497 on: October 07, 2015, 12:37:03 AM »
Know someone very close to me who had two guys come into his restaurant, ate, then pulled out guns to rob the place and some patrons. Then the story kind of goes Die Hard, with the gun being pointed at an assistant manager who was freaking the eff out and my bro (ok, it's my actual bro) walked up to the guy and said, "I am the manager, point that at me and let her go". They robbed the place and left. Two weeks later a restaurant in a different city was robbed the same way and the manager was shot and killed. They caught the two guys...same two guys!
My bro testified in their trial.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3498 on: October 07, 2015, 12:40:16 AM »
 Yowza!

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #3499 on: October 07, 2015, 12:45:39 AM »
That doesn't sound like die hard at all
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