Mass Shooting in San Bernardino: 2 shooters and a guy with a warrant

[sonofdaxjones]

Would ya look at CPLJB protecten and deflectin

[star seed 7]

is CPLJB me?

[sonofdaxjones]

Maybe

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The gun control people are incredibly naive and stupid.

[star seed 7]

Maybe

just seen you throw it around a lot lately, but have no idea what you're trying to say 

[Ptolemy]

Good lord!

OK...let's put this in more comprehensive terms.

Gun control as a solution to a problem...

Problem: I want to stop another human from breathing.  He wants to breathe. I close his mouth with my hand and stop him from taking in air.

What does he do?

He finds a way - ANY WAY - to get air into his lungs.

He will resist your grip, spin away, become aggressive himself to the point of risking his very life...each with greater and more aggressive force until he achieves his goal of breathing again.

You will not stop the right we all have to keep and bear arms.

Solve the problem at the source...the enemy.

[star seed 7]

So kill gun manufacturers?

[CNS]

Love the drama about keeping rights from the pubs that all think it great that all our calls and emails can be intercepted without warrants. 

[8manpick]

Love the drama about keeping rights from the pubs that all think it great that all our calls and emails can be intercepted without warrants.

Gotta stop the terrorists!

[DQ12]

Love the drama about keeping rights from the pubs that all think it great that all our calls and emails can be intercepted without warrants.

I don't think you can say shitting on the fourth amendment is a partisan thing at this point.

[420seriouscat69]

Can we update the title of this thread?!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Love the drama about keeping rights from the pubs that all think it great that all our calls and emails can be intercepted without warrants.

I don't think you can say shitting on the fourth amendment is a partisan thing at this point.

True dat.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but for all the talk about the need for more "gun control" (as yet unspecified except for limiting magazine capacity, which seems pretty stupid, as confiscating guns, which will never happen), gun crimes are actually down significantly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/?tid=sm_tw

The only gun crimes that seem to be up are these mass-shooting events. Again, I have yet to hear any gun control measures proposed that would actually reduce this from happening (short of confiscating all guns, which will never happen). It sounds like we'd be better off finding ways to enhance our crazy control and terrorist control.

[420seriouscat69]

Did anyone talk about how the guns were illegal? 96.5 the buzz was pretty great this morning, because unlike lib^7, they were able to own up to their dumbassery.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Love the drama about keeping rights from the pubs that all think it great that all our calls and emails can be intercepted without warrants.

Also incongruent with the leftist global warming agenda, as every lost life reduces our country's carbon footprint

[MakeItRain]

I don't want to shoot anyone but I've always wanted to pistol whip the crap out of someone.

[Dugout DickStone]

this thread got stupid quick.

[Emo EMAW]

Did anyone talk about how the guns were illegal? 96.5 the buzz was pretty great this morning, because unlike lib^7, they were able to own up to their dumbassery.

In what way were they illegal?

[8manpick]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but for all the talk about the need for more "gun control" (as yet unspecified except for limiting magazine capacity, which seems pretty stupid, as confiscating guns, which will never happen), gun crimes are actually down significantly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/?tid=sm_tw

The only gun crimes that seem to be up are these mass-shooting events. Again, I have yet to hear any gun control measures proposed that would actually reduce this from happening (short of confiscating all guns, which will never happen). It sounds like we'd be better off finding ways to enhance our crazy control and terrorist control.

Did you miss the graphic I posted where the murder rate in the US is literally less than half of what it was in both the early 80's and 90's?  Not sure exactly, but I would guess the gun murders trend similarly.  Here it is again:

[star seed 7]

Did anyone talk about how the guns were illegal? 96.5 the buzz was pretty great this morning, because unlike lib^7, they were able to own up to their dumbassery.

In what way were they illegal?

I read last night they were all obtained legally. Maybe they made illegal modifications?

[ednksu]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but for all the talk about the need for more "gun control" (as yet unspecified except for limiting magazine capacity, which seems pretty stupid, as confiscating guns, which will never happen), gun crimes are actually down significantly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/?tid=sm_tw

The only gun crimes that seem to be up are these mass-shooting events. Again, I have yet to hear any gun control measures proposed that would actually reduce this from happening (short of confiscating all guns, which will never happen). It sounds like we'd be better off finding ways to enhance our crazy control and terrorist control.

Did you miss the graphic I posted where the murder rate in the US is literally less than half of what it was in both the early 80's and 90's?  Not sure exactly, but I would guess the gun murders trend similarly.  Here it is again:

largest period of decline.....AWB 

[8manpick]

Average White Band?

[Dugout DickStone]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but for all the talk about the need for more "gun control" (as yet unspecified except for limiting magazine capacity, which seems pretty stupid, as confiscating guns, which will never happen), gun crimes are actually down significantly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/03/weve-had-a-massive-decline-in-gun-violence-in-the-united-states-heres-why/?tid=sm_tw

The only gun crimes that seem to be up are these mass-shooting events. Again, I have yet to hear any gun control measures proposed that would actually reduce this from happening (short of confiscating all guns, which will never happen). It sounds like we'd be better off finding ways to enhance our crazy control and terrorist control.

Did you miss the graphic I posted where the murder rate in the US is literally less than half of what it was in both the early 80's and 90's?  Not sure exactly, but I would guess the gun murders trend similarly.  Here it is again:

Struggling to find the relevance

[8manpick]

Struggling to find the relevance

My point is that I think we are not doing nearly as bad in reducing violence as we are being made to feel like.  I also don't believe that gun control laws are going to meaningfully reduce instances of planned terrorist or crazy person mass violence, so I think we should direct our attention towards reducing terrorists and crazy people trying to shoot (or blow) places up.

[star seed 7]

too bad we can't do both