I have to admit that I think we have reached that point. What do we have to offer. We have 3 healthy good player, one crippled guy, a bench full of knotheads, and no scholarship for a new coach to recruit with. I think it is conceivable that Brown and/or Wade transfer. If Oscar gets canned, do it now. We would have a hell of a Missouri Valley team, but Big 12 naw. What frustrates me is other pud programs like TCU, Texas Red Ticks, and OSU are moving up and forward. But not us. Hell no, we have bonehead administration that want bland white barf for basketball and football. They really don't give a rat's ass about grunt fan.