Dana Dimel
I still have faith in the Pirate, guys.
Scott Frost
Like, can you imagine if Snyder wants some control over who is hired? YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO WANT SOME
Like, can you imagine if Snyder wants some control over who is hired? YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO WANT SOME
Maybe he requires the new coach to legally change his name to Bill "Not as old as old balls" Snyder
I think Scott Frost is probably a (Not happening) as well
Jim Tressel
Kansas State, you want your successor to LHC Bill Snyder? Here you go.
Power running, time of possession, win the turnover battle, limit the mistakes, great special teams, elite defense – sound familiar?
LSU does that to some extent, but its downfield passing game is more adaptable depending on the talent. Arkansas is trying to do all of that to be SEC Wisconsin under Bret Bielema, and it’s working well – actually, it’s building to work well – at a place that doesn’t welcome in the elite of the elite recruits. Kansas State would be the dead-on perfect fit for a guy like Muschamp, whose teams did all the same things Snyder’s teams like to preach, but what might play in Manhattan doesn’t really work in Gainesville.
I think Scott Frost is probably a (Not happening) as well
I think he'd take the job if offered.
I think Scott Frost is probably a (Not happening) as well
I think he'd take the job if offered.
Jim Tressel
I think Scott Frost is probably a (Not happening) as well
I think he'd take the job if offered.
I suppose. Just seems like he's the highest profile assistant this side of Kirby Smart?
Jim Tressel
would
I think Scott Frost is probably a (Not happening) as well
I think he'd take the job if offered.
I suppose. Just seems like he's the highest profile assistant this side of Kirby Smart?
how handsome is he? I don't remember
I think Scott Frost is probably a (Not happening) as well
I think he'd take the job if offered.
I suppose. Just seems like he's the highest profile assistant this side of Kirby Smart?
how handsome is he? I don't remember
crap, you tell me.
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:sdeek:
would
crap, tressel is 61 though. that's above my personal cutoff of 60. he gets an exception though.
andy ludwig
Alan Schuckman
I want to quickly revisit Muschamp. After reading that article yesterday, if he assembles the right staff, I wouldn't hate it.
Feels very much like a Currie hire, too.
Like, can you imagine if Snyder wants some control over who is hired? YOU KNOW HE'S GOING TO WANT SOME
Maybe he requires the new coach to legally change his name to Bill "Not as old as old balls" Snyder
That was a good one, tcu guy.
I think Muschamp would be a failure at Kansas State.
I think Muschamp would be a failure at Kansas State.
I'd say the same thing, but we thought the same thing about oscar, too.
Fit does matter.
And here's a prediction: Like his defenses at Florida, Texas, Auburn, LSU and Valdosta State, Muschamp's defenses will be excellent at his next stop, too. That's not exactly going out on a limb. Here's another prediction: Muschamp's defenses will be so good that he will get another chance to run his own program, and he'll succeed the next time.
Despite the caricature of Muschamp, he's smart and self-aware. He knows exactly what mistakes he made at Florida. As long as he isn't too proud to correct them, he'll be fine. Plus, he'll have two more regular-season games with the Gators to audition for potential employers. Fired Ron Zook beat Florida State in Tallahassee in 2004, and it's possible a Florida team playing for a fired Will Muschamp will be more dangerous to the Seminoles than one playing for a retained Will Muschamp.
Derek Hammes
Gonna win 'em all!
We would have killed for Muschamp 5 years ago.
I want to quickly revisit Muschamp. After reading that article yesterday, if he assembles the right staff, I wouldn't hate it.
Feels very much like a Currie hire, too.
he seems like he may be a loser but maybe he could not be?
Don't get Venables being in the bottom category.
S&P rankings as Clemson DC:
2011: 73 (Pre-Brent)
2012: 34 (Year 1)
2013: 12 (Year 2)
2014: 2 (Year 3)
:dunno:
Coaches are not ordered within their categories (Dream, OK, Burn This Place To The rough ridin' Ground)
Tressel (:dunno: is this a not happening? how many good programs are going to offer him?)
Major Applewhite
Rich Rod (not happening)
Kirby Smart (not happening)
Todd Graham (not happening)
Jim McElwain (not happening)
Scott Frost
----above this line are dream candidates----
Chad Morris
Mangino (primarily for the lol)
Sean (don't know where to put this)
Mike Leach (primarily for the crazy)
Sonny Cumbie
Will Muschamp (:dunno:)
Greg Schiano
Josh Heupel
Chizek (has a NC but I don't like him. should probably create a low medium category)----below this line I burn this place to the ground----
Andy Ludwig
Gary Patterson (he's weird and not in a fun way)
David Cutcliffe (too old, especially too old looking)
Brent Venables (no longer want)
Dana Dimel (you blew it Dana)
Jim Leavitt (never wanted)
Michael Smith
Wannstedt
Gruden
It's going to be Muschamp. That's so Currie-y.
Don't get Venables being in the bottom category.
S&P rankings as Clemson DC:
2011: 73 (Pre-Brent)
2012: 34 (Year 1)
2013: 12 (Year 2)
2014: 2 (Year 3)
:dunno:
yeah, I don't know. I just don't really like him as much as I used to.
Don't get the Wolford love. He can't even get YSU in the FCS playoff
Butch Davis?? Guy can recruit, has won at multiple schools and was cleared in academic scandal at UNC (at least the first investigation)
I'm surprised Lane Kiffin isn't on this list.
Also, Orgeron.
sd, can you add Herman please? Think of what he did with Braxton and then with Barrett. Also, does it help our chances of getting Braxton for his fifth year? Probably.
Don't get Venables being in the bottom category.Frost will lure him away from Clemson to run our D.
S&P rankings as Clemson DC:
2011: 73 (Pre-Brent)
2012: 34 (Year 1)
2013: 12 (Year 2)
2014: 2 (Year 3)
:dunno:
Don't get Venables being in the bottom category.Frost will lure him away from Clemson to run our D.
S&P rankings as Clemson DC:
2011: 73 (Pre-Brent)
2012: 34 (Year 1)
2013: 12 (Year 2)
2014: 2 (Year 3)
:dunno:
I want a young'ish (less than 45) offensive assistant I think
I want a young'ish (less than 45) offensive assistant I think
Sounds like James Coley is your guy. And he's a great recruiter with Florida ties.
This is our guy...
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Just imagine him molding A-Delt :love:
The beginning of a handsome wildcat dynastyDon't get Venables being in the bottom category.Frost will lure him away from Clemson to run our D.
S&P rankings as Clemson DC:
2011: 73 (Pre-Brent)
2012: 34 (Year 1)
2013: 12 (Year 2)
2014: 2 (Year 3)
:dunno:
This would be so great.
in the dream of all dreams, i still want g pat but know it won't happen. really good football coach. head coaching experience. apparent willingness to change. ties to the areas we'll be recruiting. also weirdness is a plus in my opinion plus his seems to be chip on your shoulder insecure weirdness so it would play perfect to the fanbase. i'd really enjoy it.
in the dream of all dreams, i still want g pat but know it won't happen. really good football coach. head coaching experience. apparent willingness to change. ties to the areas we'll be recruiting. also weirdness is a plus in my opinion plus his seems to be chip on your shoulder insecure weirdness so it would play perfect to the fanbase. i'd really enjoy it.
Agree, but goddammit if he isn't going to the playoff this year
HC: Stoops
OC: Mangino.
DC: Venables.
we can make it happen. private money ready.*
*I'm never going to stop saying this.
HC: Stoops
OC: Mangino.
DC: Venables.
we can make it happen. private money ready.*
*I'm never going to stop saying this.
If by "we", you mean Florida, then yes.
The real question is, how big of a war chest is currie willing to dig in to to make this happen?He's from the SEC, he'll pull out all the stops and completely ignore financial limitations when it comes to his football hire.
Raise your hand if this thread rough ridin' freaks you out.
:handraised:
I want a young'ish (less than 45) offensive assistant I thinkthat's where I am........got pretty good upside, but if it don't work out.....prolly not out too much money or time
I want a young'ish (less than 45) offensive assistant I thinkthat's where I am........got pretty good upside, but if it don't work out.....prolly not out too much money or time
HC: Stoops
OC: Mangino.
DC: Venables.
we can make it happen. private money ready.*
*I'm never going to stop saying this.
If by "we", you mean Florida, then yes.
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Why is sd refusing to put Raheem Morris on his list?
Raise your hand if this thread rough ridin' freaks you out.
:handraised:
My hand is raised
I want a young'ish (less than 45) offensive assistant I thinkthat's where I am........got pretty good upside, but if it don't work out.....prolly not out too much money or time
Yes, spread offense assistant, probably HUNH type. But you've got to have solid defense to go with that, so he better hire decent defensive guys.
It would be really tough for me as a fan to transition from LHC Bill Snyder's offense to a HUNH offense. Ball control just seems to work so well in the Big 12.
Gene Chizik
what did i tell you guys about trying to be funny.
OK, Condoleeza Rice was a little funny.
Bob Stoops. Dumbasses... I can't believe he's not on the list already. Writing is ALL OVER the wall.
Bob Stoops
what did i tell you guys about trying to be funny.
OK, Condoleeza Rice was a little funny.
What did you think of my Doug Gottlieb post? :lol:
what if ku knew and got rid of charlie early to get a head start on us? :ohno:Cheyenne Zulu has been intercepting our smoke signals. :ohno:
what if ku knew and got rid of charlie early to get a head start on us? :ohno:
I'd take Kirk Herbstreit over half the losers on SD's list (not kidding)
I really like Dino Babers you guys.
Herbstreit is the Gottlieb of this list, though I don't know if he's ever expressed an interest to coach.
what did i tell you guys about trying to be funny.
OK, Condoleeza Rice was a little funny.
if it happens in the next two months.. promote Dimel at i dunno, like 1.5-1.75mill (currently 375k) to HC, and hire Frost by doubling his salary at 800k (currently 400k) for OC. would be saving half a mill.
Herbstreit is the Gottlieb of this list, though I don't know if he's ever expressed an interest to coach.
“I’ve talked to Urban Meyer just like I’ve talked to a lot of other coaches in the past about getting into coaching. It’s in my blood, I’d love to coach. But at this point, do you think I’m crazy? I’ve got the best job, for me, in television.”
it's debatable if he would come here even as HC (I think we could get him but it's not a sure thing)
The headlines threads would be awesome if Frost our coach
Herbstreit is the Gottlieb of this list, though I don't know if he's ever expressed an interest to coach.Joel Klatt would be the football version of Gottlieb
it's debatable if he would come here even as HC (I think we could get him but it's not a sure thing)
i think i'm all in on him.. so eff it, just offer him snyd's salary
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Just got an idea: Landry from Friday Night Lights.
Mangino just held a presser officially pulling his name from consideration.
Mangino just held a presser officially pulling his name from consideration.
oh man, this joke
Mangino just held a presser officially pulling his name from consideration.
oh man, this joke
Hey, welcome back to the sports board JD. A lot has actually changed since you decided to live in the pit.
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
This board was all about the Prince hire.This question isn't for you, since you are now required to STFU, but was gE even around for the first 2 on that list?
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
I hope this is the real Steffy08 from GPC but I'm sure it isn't :blank:
It's me
it's debatable if he would come here even as HC (I think we could get him but it's not a sure thing)He lobbied hard for the LA Tech job before they hired Holtz, and that was two years ago. He'd take any Power Five head coaching gig in a heartbeat. He wants to be a head coach badly, and he realizes that it's not going to happen anytime soon at Oregon
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
No one here was "all about" the prince hire, you dumbshit.
Yes, this is JC's profile! He likes coaches that achieved upper level winning seasons and who have also failed.*Jim Tressel
would
Noted insider (and stud) blackcats says Currie thinks Tressel is a good guy that got screwed for falling on the sword at Ohio State.
Just saying.
Do you think he'll go back to Coal Aggie, after Horsewoman is run out. We all know he did very well there.I want to quickly revisit Muschamp. After reading that article yesterday, if he assembles the right staff, I wouldn't hate it.
Feels very much like a Currie hire, too.
he seems like he may be a loser but maybe he could not be? like, rich rod got his ass run out of michigan but now he's kind of a medium stud again? I'd rather have an offensive guy personally. I don't like defensive HCs.
Why is sd refusing to put Raheem Morris on his list?
:dunno:
I just hope we don't sam-patch this hire up.:ohno:
Richrod
Why is sd refusing to put Raheem Morris on his list?
:dunno:
This would be a homerun hire.
Also, Andre Coleman because, why not?
i'm so nervous for a coaching search under ADJC
i'm so nervous for a coaching search under ADJC
Well, if it makes you feel better I can personally neither he or anyone else is hiring Andre Coleman as a HC
i'm so nervous for a coaching search under ADJC
Richrod
DNR pages 2-9, but I hate you. And should this craziness happen, I'll hate KSU too. Sorry, purple bro...
Currie's track record is fine.
Personally I liked the Weber hire, and I'd like a Muschamp hire. I dig the Currie type and loathe the Prince/Neuheisel type hire. I think it's absolutely better for most A.D.s to pick out a winner from guys who have a track record than to try to pick the right one from the young unproven guys.
Richrod
DNR pages 2-9, but I hate you. And should this craziness happen, I'll hate KSU too. Sorry, purple bro...
:wha:
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
Don't get Venables being in the bottom category.
S&P rankings as Clemson DC:
2011: 73 (Pre-Brent)
2012: 34 (Year 1)
2013: 12 (Year 2)
2014: 2 (Year 3)
:dunno:
yeah, I don't know. I just don't really like him as much as I used to.
Guys, cDubya basically told us to go get richrod.
Currie's track record is fine.
Personally I liked the Weber hire, and I'd like a Muschamp hire. I dig the Currie type and loathe the Prince/Neuheisel type hire. I think it's absolutely better for most A.D.s to pick out a winner from guys who have a track record than to try to pick the right one from the young unproven guys.
Munchamp has a track record of losing as a HC. He's like the young unproven guy but you already know it doesn't work.
Don't get Venables being in the bottom category.
S&P rankings as Clemson DC:
2011: 73 (Pre-Brent)
2012: 34 (Year 1)
2013: 12 (Year 2)
2014: 2 (Year 3)
:dunno:
yeah, I don't know. I just don't really like him as much as I used to.
This is very painful for me to say, but I agree, SD.
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
Yeah, we were stupid for rough ridin' giving the new coach a chance, then quickly said eff you Ron.
If you weren't skeptical that bill could get it done when he took a championship team and wrecked it in a matter of 2 years, then you would have made a great Nazi.
We were also one of the only rough ridin' people(s) to give Martin a rough ridin' chance. think where we'd be if we listened to your dumbass?
Who the eff wouldn't be against losing the winningest coach in 20+ years?
Who the eff would want a guy that rough ridin' failed after getting handed a nba roster?
And oscar hasn't done anything that he didn't already do at Illinois during his first few years (well, except win a game in the ncaa tournament)
eff you and your revisionist history.
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This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
Yeah, we were stupid for rough ridin' giving the new coach a chance, then quickly said eff you Ron.
If you weren't skeptical that bill could get it done when he took a championship team and wrecked it in a matter of 2 years, then you would have made a great Nazi.
We were also one of the only rough ridin' people(s) to give Martin a rough ridin' chance. think where we'd be if we listened to your dumbass?
Who the eff wouldn't be against losing the winningest coach in 20+ years?
Who the eff would want a guy that rough ridin' failed after getting handed a nba roster?
And oscar hasn't done anything that he didn't already do at Illinois during his first few years (well, except win a game in the ncaa tournament)
eff you and your revisionist history.
Rhoads > Briles
Quote from: Steffy08Rhoads > Briles
all you need to know about Steffy08 right there
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
Yeah, we were stupid for rough ridin' giving the new coach a chance, then quickly said eff you Ron.
If you weren't skeptical that bill could get it done when he took a championship team and wrecked it in a matter of 2 years, then you would have made a great Nazi.
We were also one of the only rough ridin' people(s) to give Martin a rough ridin' chance. think where we'd be if we listened to your dumbass?
Who the eff wouldn't be against losing the winningest coach in 20+ years?
Who the eff would want a guy that rough ridin' failed after getting handed a nba roster?
And oscar hasn't done anything that he didn't already do at Illinois during his first few years (well, except win a game in the ncaa tournament)
eff you and your revisionist history.
In the real world, consistently being wrong matters. Not on this board, though. So go on, kids, about how awesome Gotlieb or Herbstreet would be.
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
Yeah, we were stupid for rough ridin' giving the new coach a chance, then quickly said eff you Ron.
If you weren't skeptical that bill could get it done when he took a championship team and wrecked it in a matter of 2 years, then you would have made a great Nazi.
We were also one of the only rough ridin' people(s) to give Martin a rough ridin' chance. think where we'd be if we listened to your dumbass?
Who the eff wouldn't be against losing the winningest coach in 20+ years?
Who the eff would want a guy that rough ridin' failed after getting handed a nba roster?
And oscar hasn't done anything that he didn't already do at Illinois during his first few years (well, except win a game in the ncaa tournament)
eff you and your revisionist history.
In the real world, consistently being wrong matters. Not on this board, though. So go on, kids, about how awesome Gotlieb or Herbstreet would be.
Muschamp will replace a retiring Hays as DC.
Snyder will coach two more years.
This is not based on facts.
enjoying the crap out of zacker's posting if for no other reason than for deflating steffy's highly unjustified sense of self importance.
Muschamp will replace a retiring Hays as DC.
Snyder will coach two more years.
This is not based on facts.
Muschamp will replace a retiring Hays as DC.
Snyder will coach two more years.
This is not based on facts.
enjoying the crap out of zacker's posting if for no other reason than for deflating steffy's highly unjustified sense of self importance.Really made my day a little better
This board was all about the Prince hire.
This board was against the Snyder re-hire.
This board was against the Martin "firing."
This board was against the Weber hire.
This board has no credibility when discussing potential hires.
Yeah, we were stupid for rough ridin' giving the new coach a chance, then quickly said eff you Ron.
If you weren't skeptical that bill could get it done when he took a championship team and wrecked it in a matter of 2 years, then you would have made a great Nazi.
We were also one of the only rough ridin' people(s) to give Martin a rough ridin' chance. think where we'd be if we listened to your dumbass?
Who the eff wouldn't be against losing the winningest coach in 20+ years?
Who the eff would want a guy that rough ridin' failed after getting handed a nba roster?
And oscar hasn't done anything that he didn't already do at Illinois during his first few years (well, except win a game in the ncaa tournament)
eff you and your revisionist history.
In the real world, consistently being wrong matters. Not on this board, though. So go on, kids, about how awesome Gotlieb or Herbstreet would be.
this board didn't and doesn't have one opinion you dense eff. many liked prince, many didn't. pretty much all liked franks hire while rough ridin' tucks like you wanted rough ridin' bob chipman. a lot didn't like Snyder and a lot did. a lot didn't like oscar, and after a while (even before his first season), a lot did.
but keep rough ridin' pretending that you've picked them all right. meanwhile i'll be on the board that basically branded ksu basketball.
frost isn't ready
Steffy must be really old to be calling all of us kids.
Ruffin McNeill has a pretty good resume, knows the big 12, has recruited Texas and jucos. His new slim and trim figure can only increase his appeal to Currie.
Ruffin McNeill has a pretty good resume, knows the big 12, has recruited Texas and jucos. His new slim and trim figure can only increase his appeal to Currie.
I support this. Convincing him to move from Greenville to Manhappiness shouldn't be too hard either.
Because of the rapes yard dog, because of the rapes.
Because of the rapes yard dog, because of the rapes.
:frown: :facepalm: I had no idea. How is he a HC anywhere with that on the table?
Because of the rapes yard dog, because of the rapes.
:frown: :facepalm: I had no idea. How is he a HC anywhere with that on the table?
Cosby, dumbass.
Hey SD, why is McElwain in the (not happening) grouping?
Because of the rapes yard dog, because of the rapes.
:frown: :facepalm: I had no idea. How is he a HC anywhere with that on the table?
Cosby, dumbass.
Hmmm. Honestly had never heard that about Cosby. So guilt by association? Could we hire him on the condition he stopped all contact with the Dr. Huxtable?
Because of the rapes yard dog, because of the rapes.
:frown: :facepalm: I had no idea. How is he a HC anywhere with that on the table?
Cosby, dumbass.
Hey SD, why is McElwain in the (not happening) grouping?
he wouldn't come here if we offered
Hey SD, why is McElwain in the (not happening) grouping?
he wouldn't come here if we offered
You don't think he would leave Colorado State for us? I think he would without question.
Ruffin McNeill has a pretty good resume, knows the big 12, has recruited Texas and jucos. His new slim and trim figure can only increase his appeal to Currie.
I support this. Convincing him to move from Greenville to Manhappiness shouldn't be too hard either.
I want a young'ish (less than 45) offensive assistant I think
Sonny Cumbie
Quote from: Steffy08Rhoads > Briles
all you need to know about Steffy08 right there
I was looking through some Big 12 stats this week and noticed we're #1 (by a large margin) in points allowed in the conference. Our defense is surely salty.
What is the legitimate possibility of landing a current NFL coach? There are some coaches that are struggling at the level due to poor management. They could get a reprieve with such a great and supportive fan base in Manhattan. Or is that a huge step down?
My first few years as a die hard fan were the Ron Prince years. It was frustrating, but it taught me to enjoy the little things. I got to see Jordy Nelson fight for yards after little 2 yard dump passes. I got to see a defensive lineman break his collarbone trying to tackle Josh Freeman in the non-con. I got to whip a stupid towel at games and almost got to witness that sweet Willie guitar thing on a regular basis.
The truth is that the bad times help us appreciate the great ones. I often wish we could be perennial powerhouses till the end of time, but K-State's story has always been overcoming adversity. That lesson is a great one, not only for Bill's youngsters, but also for all the youngsters in the stands.
then you hire another coach that does win a lot. KSU fans need to quite being defeatist losers. there is nothing stopping us from being awesome with another coach.
then you hire another coach that does win a lot. KSU fans need to quite being defeatist losers. there is nothing stopping us from being awesome with another coach.
i'm just going off of the hires Currie has made thus far, and the internal candidates we have. that, and I don't want the Snyder era to end.
then you hire another coach that does win a lot. KSU fans need to quite being defeatist losers. there is nothing stopping us from being awesome with another coach.
i'm just going off of the hires Currie has made thus far, and the internal candidates we have. that, and I don't want the Snyder era to end.
I don't think anything he has done indicates what type of hire he will make in football. I do not think Currie will fill the position internally.
I was wrong about Snyder, but no one thought he would do as well as he had. So really everyone was wrong. We're in this together.
I was wrong about Snyder, but no one thought he would do as well as he had. So really everyone was wrong. We're in this together.
Wefald would beg to differ. Was there any doubt???
I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his asssometime the staff is more important than the head coach
I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
you have no idea what you're talking about.
we are now a big dick college football power with top 20 facilities. We should be playing for the conf every season
gtfoI can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
:peek:gtfoI can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
you have no idea what you're talking about.
Meh
I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
you have no idea what you're talking about.
Meh
Bob was an outside of the box thinker. You have to respect that.
I hate Wefald. Truly hate. He was/is a complete dipshit with a Napoleon complex.
Wefald's presser after Huggins left was maybe the most embarrassing thing I can remember that has to do with KSU sports.
THIS. Wefald got a lot of credit around the time of his retirement, and some is definitely deserved, even if he lucked into hiring Snyder. People forget the fiasco he ran on the Collegian and its then faculty advisor, because he had a problem with journalistic independence. Total scumbag.I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
you have no idea what you're talking about.
Meh
Bob was an outside of the box thinker. You have to respect that.
I hate Wefald. Truly hate. He was/is a complete dipshit with a Napoleon complex.
THIS. Wefald got a lot of credit around the time of his retirement, and some is definitely deserved, even if he lucked into hiring Snyder. People forget the fiasco he ran on the Collegian and its then faculty advisor, because he had a problem with journalistic independence. Total scumbag.
Wefald was always looking for the home run. It's what got him in trouble. It was pretty much conventional wisdom he was leaving for Minnesota before the re-organization fiasco. Prince was another example. Johnson's being run off was after I left. Don't know how much Wefald was directly involved with that overreach of political correctness.I can't even imagine how bad it would have been if he didn't have Bob Krause (enormous stud) and Pat Bosco (enormous stud) to save his ass
Agree that Pat Bosco is a stud. Krause was/is a tool.
you have no idea what you're talking about.
Meh
Bob was an outside of the box thinker. You have to respect that.
I hate Wefald. Truly hate. He was/is a complete dipshit with a Napoleon complex.
Krause was nothing but Wefald's hatchet man. That was his career. He didn't really function independent of Wefald. You can't like or dislike one without feeling the same about the other.
Krause was nothing but Wefald's hatchet man. That was his career. He didn't really function independent of Wefald. You can't like or dislike one without feeling the same about the other.
Krause was nothing but Wefald's hatchet man. That was his career. He didn't really function independent of Wefald. You can't like or dislike one without feeling the same about the other.
it was more like krause did stuff and wefald got credit for it
Chum, did you even see me wanting to know that SJSU coach that you blogged about and wanting to Add him to the list? Get your crap together.
found it
http://godsawesomegiftksu.blogspot.com/2010/08/in-search-of-mcginnis-interview.html
Missed Dino Babers on your list
Right now we're 50-24 in Snyder 2.0 for a winning % of .676. I just felt like looking it up and didn't know which thread it belongs in so bam its here.
Right now we're 50-24 in Snyder 2.0 for a winning % of .676. I just felt like looking it up and didn't know which thread it belongs in so bam its here.
more importantly 33-17 (.667) in confy play
P5 OOC losses:
'09 @ UCLA
'10 vs Syracuse (bowl)
'11 vs Arkansas (bowl)
'12 vs Oregon (bowl)
'14 vs Auburn
P5 OOC wins:
'10 vs UCLA
'11 @ Miami
'12 vs Miami
'13 vs Michigan (bowl)
Coaches are not ordered within their categories (Dream, ok, low-medium, Burn This Place To The rough ridin' Ground)
Bryan McGinnis (current DOFO at Colorado, previous HC candidate who is known to covet the job)
Tressel (:dunno: is this a not happening? how many good programs are going to offer him?)
Major Applewhite
Rich Rod (not happening)
Kirby Smart (not happening)
Todd Graham (not happening)
Jim McElwain (not happening)
Tom Herman
Scott Frost
----above this line are dream candidates----
Chad Morris
Sonny Cumbie
Josh Heupel
James Coley
---above this line are ok, below are kind of crappy----
Mangino (primarily for the lol)
Mike Leach (primarily for the crazy)
Greg Schiano
Will Muschamp (:dunno:)
Chizek (has a NC but I don't like him)
Brent Venables (no longer really want)
Eric Wolford
Sean (don't know where to put this)
----below this line I burn this place to the ground----
Andy Ludwig
Gary Patterson (he's weird and not in a fun way)
David Cutcliffe (too old, especially too old looking)
Dana Dimel (you blew it Dana)
Jim Leavitt (never wanted)
Michael Smith
Wannstedt
Gruden
Kiffin
Butch Davis
So, he's availible? :gocho:
Coaches are not ordered within their categories (Dream, ok, low-medium, Burn This Place To The rough ridin' Ground)
Bryan McGinnis (current DOFO at Colorado, previous HC candidate who is known to covet the job)
Tressel (:dunno: is this a not happening? how many good programs are going to offer him?)
Major Applewhite
Rich Rod (not happening)
Kirby Smart (not happening)
Todd Graham (not happening)
Jim McElwain (not happening)
Tom Herman
Scott Frost
----above this line are dream candidates----
Chad Morris
Sonny Cumbie
Josh Heupel
James Coley
---above this line are ok, below are kind of crappy----
Mangino (primarily for the lol)
Mike Leach (primarily for the crazy)
Greg Schiano
Will Muschamp (:dunno:)
Chizek (has a NC but I don't like him)
Brent Venables (no longer really want)
Eric Wolford
Sean (don't know where to put this)
----below this line I burn this place to the ground----
Andy Ludwig
Gary Patterson (he's weird and not in a fun way)
David Cutcliffe (too old, especially too old looking)
Dana Dimel (you blew it Dana)
Jim Leavitt (never wanted)
Michael Smith
Wannstedt
Gruden
Kiffin
Butch Davis
Forced his relatives to donate a billion dollars
Put Hammes on the list!!!!! :shakesfist:
Pretty judgey list there. Have to disagree on Jim Leavitt and Gary Patterson, would be great hires.
I can't remember why you love him so much, but I think it is Hayden? He is a great dude with a solid ego and just enough of a dickhead to provide for some great interviews. I like him!Put Hammes on the list!!!!! :shakesfist:
:love:
I can't remember why you love him so much, but I think it is Hayden? He is a great dude with a solid ego and just enough of a dickhead to provide for some great interviews. I like him!Put Hammes on the list!!!!! :shakesfist:
:love:
Teenage dobber consumed a great deal of alcohol with him.I can't remember why you love him so much, but I think it is Hayden? He is a great dude with a solid ego and just enough of a dickhead to provide for some great interviews. I like him!Put Hammes on the list!!!!! :shakesfist:
:love:
No I went to WR he was my head coach all 4 years, he is a hilarious person.
I am sure this will get me ridiculed by any Chief's fan, but... Herm Edwards?The point in outer space where an object traveling around the Earth (such as a satellite or the moon) is closest to the Earth? :dunno:
I always thought he would make a much better college coach, he has an NFL Perigee, would be recognizable by an recruit in country, and he was pretty good at evaluating talent at least at the NFL level.
Teenage dobber consumed a great deal of alcohol with him.I can't remember why you love him so much, but I think it is Hayden? He is a great dude with a solid ego and just enough of a dickhead to provide for some great interviews. I like him!Put Hammes on the list!!!!! :shakesfist:
:love:
No I went to WR he was my head coach all 4 years, he is a hilarious person.
Gonna win 'em all!
I am sure this will get me ridiculed by any Chief's fan, but... Herm Edwards?The eff is this crap?
I always thought he would make a much better college coach, he has an NFL Perigee, would be recognizable by an recruit in country, and he was pretty good at evaluating talent at least at the NFL level.
I am sure this will get me ridiculed by any Chief's fan, but... Herm Edwards?The eff is this crap?
I always thought he would make a much better college coach, he has an NFL Perigee, would be recognizable by an recruit in country, and he was pretty good at evaluating talent at least at the NFL level.
dscott trying to get our scoop
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Does he announce his retirement after the KU game, during the build up to Baylor, after Baylor, Bowl game lead up, or post bowl game?!?
Just thought about this but in Currie's previous two searches he made finding a coach with previous head coaching experience a priority.
Definitely not a sexy name but anyone know anything about Willie Fritz? A couple Division 1 championships at Sam Houston State with an overall record of 31-10 and had a good year at Georgia Southern and has a lot of ties to the area. Also his first name is Willie.
local ties.
I am sure this will get me ridiculed by any Chief's fan, but... Herm Edwards?
I always thought he would make a much better college coach, he has an NFL Perigee, would be recognizable by an recruit in country, and he was pretty good at evaluating talent at least at the NFL level.
local ties.
We're not Iowa State
I want Klein. We need kind of a weirdo who will do things the right way, but will probably be laughed at by everyone else on the planet for wearing the same shoes every game.
local ties.
We're not Iowa State
Maybe not, but I would think having local ties for recruiting purposes would be beneficial.
Ya you're probably right. Still I believe a large portion of our current team is made up of Kansas kids. But I'm sure the ability to recruit Texas is more important than Kansas.ya think?
Isn't rule #1 on most coaches list to lock down in-state?
Isn't rule #1 on most coaches list to lock down in-state?
It wasn't for Prince or at least he did a very poor job of it.
Isn't rule #1 on most coaches list to lock down in-state?
It wasn't for Prince or at least he did a very poor job of it.
grandview is basically ks
Ya you're probably right. Still I believe a large portion of our current team is made up of Kansas kids. But I'm sure the ability to recruit Texas is more important than Kansas.ya think?
ot: cat taco is a good username
ot: cat taco is a good username
Reminds me of that bar that used to be in Aggieville called the Pink Taco. I still can't believe they got away with that. :lol:
well yes, that is what they call a given. Still have to recruit the surrounding states thoYa you're probably right. Still I believe a large portion of our current team is made up of Kansas kids. But I'm sure the ability to recruit Texas is more important than Kansas.ya think?
I believe we have 52 Kansas kids to only 20 Texas so I think recruiting in state is still very important.
ot: cat taco is a good username
Reminds me of that bar that used to be in Aggieville called the Pink Taco. I still can't believe they got away with that. :lol:
ot: cat taco is a good username
ot: cat taco is a good username
But what if he would have used ocat taco? Palindromes rule.
dennis franchionefist yourself
dennis franchionefist yourself
Guys, I'm pretty worried that our next coach won't know how to win football games with Joe Hubener at QB.
ot: cat taco is a good username
Yeah. Love'em.ot: cat taco is a good username
But what if he would have used ocat taco? Palindromes rule.
dennis franchionefist yourself
I still want Gary Patterson. He has shown to be adaptable. He wins. He's a K-stater (this isn't that important to me but it it's an added bonus)I don't think he's leaving tcu, but he would be a great "get". I think it's funny when people say they don't want him. He's a dork, but is about to go to the playoffs and has shown the ability to have success over time.
I also think that he is weird/frumpy enough that better programs wouldn't want him. And who knows, maybe he wouldn't want to leave KSU.
kk and i decided that it's probably going to be venables as HC with mangino as OC and then bobby goes to the nfl and mike comes back as DC. WOW! I MEAN CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE! :ksu::lynchmob:
kk and i decided that it's probably going to be venables as HC with mangino as OC and then bobby goes to the nfl and mike comes back as DC. WOW! I MEAN CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE! :ksu:
why on earth would patterson leave tcu for KSU you moronsIf we are playing the "wouldn't even come here" game, we should really cut SD's list by like 2/3rds, imo.
kk and i decided that it's probably going to be venables as HC with mangino as OC and then bobby goes to the nfl and mike comes back as DC. WOW! I MEAN CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE! :ksu:
kk and i decided that it's probably going to be venables as HC with mangino as OC and then bobby goes to the nfl and mike comes back as DC. WOW! I MEAN CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE! :ksu:
Oh that's what you were talking about when the cameras showed you on TV last night? It looked like you guys were in the middle of a dumb face contest and you both won LMAO
Keep Seiler, Coleman, and Klein from the current staff. Put Coleman and Klein on the Recruiting trail and Blake can run the defense under Brent's tutelage. :love:kk and i decided that it's probably going to be venables as HC with mangino as OC and then bobby goes to the nfl and mike comes back as DC. WOW! I MEAN CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE! :ksu:
The circle is now complete.
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No doubt. It doesn't hurt to make him say no either.why on earth would patterson leave tcu for KSU you moronsIf we are playing the "wouldn't even come here" game, we should really cut SD's list by like 2/3rds, imo.
He's never been asked.No doubt. It doesn't hurt to make him say no either.why on earth would patterson leave tcu for KSU you moronsIf we are playing the "wouldn't even come here" game, we should really cut SD's list by like 2/3rds, imo.
celebrity couple nickname = RiKK?
That I don't know. I think there's very little chance he would leave...maybe for any job. But he's the most proven coach K-State had even an inkling of a chance to get and it doesn't hurt to call his agent.He's never been asked.No doubt. It doesn't hurt to make him say no either.why on earth would patterson leave tcu for KSU you moronsIf we are playing the "wouldn't even come here" game, we should really cut SD's list by like 2/3rds, imo.
Well, so far the Nebraska and Michigan hires have made me feel terrible about our likely hire.
I'm telling you...compared to what others are doing, hiring Venables would look really good.
I'm just saying.
I'm telling you...compared to what others are doing, hiring Venables would look really good.Venables has always looked great.
I'm just saying.
I'm telling you...compared to what others are doing, hiring Venables would look really good.
I'm just saying.
Didn't Venzy snort coke off of several donor's wives asses all while trying to kill himself and ripping the tags off mattresses or something?
Didn't Venzy snort coke off of several donor's wives asses all while trying to kill himself and ripping the tags off mattresses or something?
What's your point?
Didn't Venzy snort coke off of several donor's wives asses all while trying to kill himself and ripping the tags off mattresses or something?
What's your point?
One of the "mattresses" he "pulled the tag off" was a vanier or something.
Back in the 90's, once things were starting to turn around for the Cats, was there anyone that tried to lure Snyder away from Kansas State? Not relevant to anything, I was just wondering yesterday after hearing all the Riley-to-Snyder comparisons.
Back in the 90's, once things were starting to turn around for the Cats, was there anyone that tried to lure Snyder away from Kansas State? Not relevant to anything, I was just wondering yesterday after hearing all the Riley-to-Snyder comparisons.
there was a story about UCLA wanting to interview him in the early 00s and Snyd's faxed them a huge list of requirements for the program (dozens of pages or something) and that was the end of that
just looked at UCLA's wikithere was a story about UCLA wanting to interview him in the early 00s and Snyd's faxed them a huge list of requirements for the program (dozens of pages or something) and that was the end of that
I was thinking it was mid to late 90's
I think LSU wanted him, too.
thought he still has a show cause
I always heard UCLA was a real possibility and that he nearly went
Why is this even a thread? Is Snyder hanging it up after this year? Or are we getting started early for the inevitable?Have you not read the phog before? This guy is going to die, at some point.
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.Why is this even a thread? Is Snyder hanging it up after this year? Or are we getting started early for the inevitable?Have you not read the phog before? This guy is going to die, at some point.
The hunt for a new UCLA football coach was down to two men on Saturday morning. But by Saturday afternoon one of those men, Kansas State Coach LHC Bill Snyder, dropped out of the running. And the other, Northwestern Coach Gary Barnett, has asked for more time.
UCLA officials have made it clear to Barnett that he would be their top choice. While, in turn, indicating serious interest in the Bruin job, Barnett has continued to negotiate with Northwestern, which has offered him a lucrative 12-year contract.
Sources close to Barnett say he is also trying to negotiate a better deal for his assistant coaches at Northwestern while bringing up the financial situation of his assistants with UCLA as well.
Rick Taylor, Northwestern's athletic director, told the Chicago Sun-Times, "I know what's going on. I have nothing to say about it."
With his Wildcats in the Rose Bowl against USC on Monday, Barnett has tried to put the entire issue of his future aside until after the game, saying he'll make a final decision by the middle of the week.
That doesn't sit too well with UCLA officials. Athletic Director Peter Dalis has been saying since Dec. 11, the day Terry Donahue resigned after 20 years on the job, that he wanted a new coach in place by New Year's Day. Dalis can't afford to wait much longer with the school's first heavy recruiting weekend starting in six days.
If Snyder had been interested in the job, that would have put more pressure on Barnett.
"I won't ever pursue a job or an interview," Snyder had told The Times earlier in the week. "But if UCLA calls, certainly I will listen."
UCLA called, but Snyder, after coaching his team to an impressive 54-21 victory over Colorado State in the Holiday Bowl Friday night, bowed out of the Bruin situation Saturday without offering a reason.
Snyder has just completed the third year of a 10-year contract that pays him between $250,000 and $300,000 annually. UCLA is thought to be offering around $300,000 per season.
There is no question about Snyder's coaching ability. Over the last three seasons, he is 28-7-1, including 17-1-1 at home.
The questions arose over his media relations. Beat reporters covering Kansas State complained about lack of access to players, saying they were limited to one hour a week.
Snyder knew that if he came to the Los Angles market he might have to change.
He did not return phone calls to a reporter Saturday night.
Now UCLA officials must decide if they will give Barnett the time he needs and risk winding up with nobody by the middle of the week.
The argument can certainly be made that Barnett is worth waiting for. In one season, he has turned perennial loser Northwestern from a 3-7-1 mark to a 10-1 record and the No. 3 ranking in the country. And in doing so, Barnett has become arguably the hottest coach in college football.
The alternative for Dalis would be to offer the position to one of the three others still remaining on UCLA's list--Denver Bronco defensive coordinator Greg Robinson, Chicago Bear offensive coordinator Ron Turner and UCLA's offensive coordinator, Bob Toledo.
Dang coaches salaries have gone bananas.
nick saban looks deformedno way man, I will admit he's looking a bit melty from getting older, but he's a good lookin' chap
Pitino looks terrible.nick saban looks deformedno way man, I will admit he's looking a bit melty from getting older, but he's a good lookin' chap
FB onlyPitino looks terrible.nick saban looks deformedno way man, I will admit he's looking a bit melty from getting older, but he's a good lookin' chap
Ask yourselves this: when was the last time an ugly man was the coach of a championship team? I suspect it would be Larry Coker? And that's mostly because of his age. You want to have the best chance to hire a good coach? You hire a handsome man.
Jimbo Fisher is just plain ugly.goddamn it you're right
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Jimbo Fisher is just plain ugly.goddamn it you're right
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disregard, but I still think we should look for handsome
Snyder knew that if he came to the Los Angles market he might have to change.
He did not return phone calls to a reporter Saturday night.
QuoteSnyder knew that if he came to the Los Angles market he might have to change.
He did not return phone calls to a reporter Saturday night.
That made me chuckle.
Chip Kelly isn't handsome.
What do you guys consider old? Is > 40 old? If so, I may have to........ :goodbyecruelworld:
Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
In what way? An ATM coaching search could be great funRumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
Sucks, if true.
In what way? An ATM coaching search could be great funRumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
Sucks, if true.
Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
That would be a step down.
Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
That would be a step down.
no.
Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
That would be a step down.
Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
That would be a step down.
If he's smart, he'll get the hell out of there before they run him out.Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
That would be a step down.
Yeah but he is smart to go to an easier place to win and make $ long term while a&m is on the decline post johnny football.
Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
That would be a step down.
It is, but almost nobody realizes it yet.
They also have absolutely the most delusional fans in all of cfb. I can almost guarantee you each of their fans truly believe atm is the #1 coaching job in the nation. They're absolutely nuts. One of my dad's college friends was an offensive coach there for a year. Said it was easily the worst/scariest place he's ever been.
If he's smart, he'll get the hell out of there before they run him out.Rumor in Texas -- Sumlin to Michigan
That would be a step down.
Yeah but he is smart to go to an easier place to win and make $ long term while a&m is on the decline post johnny football.
I just don't know who we can get now that Riley and Beaty are off the board. :'bye cruel world:This post didn't get the appreciation it deserves. :lol:
Can we merge this into oscar Weber replacement candidates as well?cat taco - shut your rough ridin' face
aTm is as close as you can get to a college and their fans being a cult. IMHO.
We are the Big 12 version of Nebraska. If Snyder found a drug that extended life expectancy to 200 we'd be looking at 100 years of 8-10 win seasons.Would take
We are the Big 12 version of Nebraska. If Snyder found a drug that extended life expectancy to 200 we'd be looking at 100 years of 8-10 win seasons.Would take
Stop being so dramatic.We are the Big 12 version of Nebraska. If Snyder found a drug that extended life expectancy to 200 we'd be looking at 100 years of 8-10 win seasons.Would take
So you'd make a deal right now that during your and your kids lifetimes K-State will always be bowl eligible but never even play for a national championship? That says a lot about you. Don't be afraid of ambition.
We are the Big 12 version of Nebraska. If Snyder found a drug that extended life expectancy to 200 we'd be looking at 100 years of 8-10 win seasons.Would take
So you'd make a deal right now that during your and your kids lifetimes K-State will always be bowl eligible but never even play for a national championship? That says a lot about you. Don't be afraid of ambition.
An unofficial source has informed us that LHC Bill Snyder's retirement announcement may come as early as tomorrow.
Take it for what it is worth. highly doubt this account would know a thing though.Quote from: ?@ksuinseason 1 hour agoAn unofficial source has informed us that LHC LHC Bill Snyder's retirement announcement may come as early as tomorrow.
Take it for what it is worth. highly doubt this account would know a thing though.Quote from: ?@ksuinseason 1 hour agoAn unofficial source has informed us that LHC Bill Snyder's retirement announcement may come as early as tomorrow.
We wont' hire Tressel.
We wont' hire Tressel.
WHY NOT?!?
I also think our current administration knows what it takes to win here. No more "Scary Smart" hires.
We wont' hire Tressel.
WHY NOT?!?
I can't see the same AD who hired oscar Weber hiring Tressel. Just a hunch I guess.
I also think our current administration knows what it takes to win here. No more "Scary Smart" hires.
....or they don't anymore and that may be a problem.
We wont' hire Tressel.
WHY NOT?!?
I can't see the same AD who hired oscar Weber hiring Tressel. Just a hunch I guess.
Currie likes Tressel and thinks he got a bad shake, FWIW.
Tressel only wins if he has way more talent than the team he's playing against except for Miami that one time. Ohio State recruited for Ohio State, particularly with Michigan down at the time. He would be awful at go purple fight on state U.
Would take Tressel despite Bread's warnings.
Tressel only wins if he has way more talent than the team he's playing against except for Miami that one time. Ohio State recruited for Ohio State, particularly with Michigan down at the time. He would be awful at go purple fight on state U.
Hmmmmmm, I thought he was a coach-em-up, no?
Tressel only wins if he has way more talent than the team he's playing against except for Miami that one time. Ohio State recruited for Ohio State, particularly with Michigan down at the time. He would be awful at go purple fight on state U.
Hmmmmmm, I thought he was a coach-em-up, no?
No, that is the Miami game misconception. He dicked all over the big 10 because he had by far the best talent. tOSU fans hated his crap, unimaginative offense. Look what happened to him vs. the SEC when he didn't have the talent edge.
I mean, it could be a Huggins of the pigskin situation. Still don't see it happening tho
We're going to face the same following bill problem that led us to Ron
My feeling is that he will coach another 3-4 years.
My feeling is that he will coach another 3-4 years.
I want your feelings to be true.
It's not just a feeling. Did I mention I have insider sources?
Venzy is not an intelligent person.good head coaches are very smart people
Venzy is not an intelligent person.good head coaches are scary smart people
Manbeck says he is staying. Lock up the thread
D. Scott Fritchen
@DScottFritchen
LHC LHC Bill Snyder is with the Lockett family in New York City and won't be back until later in the week. Please no more tweets to me about this.
it'll be Pelini.
Tomorrow is later in the week :surprised:
I like Mr. Breads linear, "no one can change their stripes" thought process.
I like Mr. Breads linear, "no one can change their stripes" thought process.
This is great coming from dax :lol:
:lol:
We wont' hire Tressel.
WHY NOT?!?
I can't see the same AD who hired oscar Weber hiring Tressel. Just a hunch I guess.
Currie likes Tressel and thinks he got a bad shake, FWIW.
Where does that come from (just curious)
Also, dude with a National Champs ring can deal with being "guy after Snyder." I like it.
Tressel only wins if he has way more talent than the team he's playing against except for Miami that one time. Ohio State recruited for Ohio State, particularly with Michigan down at the time. He would be awful at go purple fight on state U.
Hmmmmmm, I thought he was a coach-em-up, no?
No, that is the Miami game misconception. He dicked all over the big 10 because he had by far the best talent. tOSU fans hated his crap, unimaginative offense. Look what happened to him vs. the SEC when he didn't have the talent edge.
snyd's wants to retire, and told currie recently he wants to, but only if sean takes over. adjc refuses to hire sean, so bill is going to stay another year to try and do more convincing.
phew, dodged a bullet there.
oh, just champions.
Saban Check
Meyer Check
Chizik Check
Brown Check
Stoops Check
Carrol Check
Tressel Dorkstore
Bowden WOOF
Coker WOOF
Fullmer WOOF
Osborne Psychopath
The more you go back the uglier they get.
There is a 12-month notice clause in Snyder's contract. He's not going anywhere yet.
There is a 12-month notice clause in Snyder's contract. He's not going anywhere yet.
What do you mean? He isn't being fired, there is no way he signed a contract stating that he has to give 12 months notice.
What are the repercussions if he violates this alleged provision?
What are the repercussions if he violates this alleged provision?
What are the repercussions if he violates this alleged provision?
D. Scott Fritchen
@DScottFritchen
LHC LHC Bill Snyder is with the Lockett family in New York City and won't be back until later in the week. Please no more tweets to me about this.
look it up, dumbass
D. Scott Fritchen
@DScottFritchen
LHC LHC Bill Snyder is with the Lockett family in New York City and won't be back until later in the week. Please no more tweets to me about this.
Biletnikoff?
Oh man, GPC is going to be a treat if Snyder leaves again. Fitz's time to shine!He probably fears it more than anyone, knowing full well its far out of the competence of him and his (ahem) staff.
I'd say Muschamp will be Currie's first choice but he'll say no to be DC at aTm, Auburn, or someone with a shot at a natty for a few years then take a better job.
There is a 12-month notice clause in Snyder's contract. He's not going anywhere yet.
There is a 12-month notice clause in Snyder's contract. He's not going anywhere yet.
Why would the AD want the coach to give 12 months notice? Seems like he would be a lame duck for a whole year with no incentive to recruit.
There is a 12-month notice clause in Snyder's contract. He's not going anywhere yet.
Why would the AD want the coach to give 12 months notice? Seems like he would be a lame duck for a whole year with no incentive to recruit.
There is a 12-month notice clause in Snyder's contract. He's not going anywhere yet.
Why would the AD want the coach to give 12 months notice? Seems like he would be a lame duck for a whole year with no incentive to recruit.
Soooo.... not saying this is true... but it's your position that LHC Bill Snyder would just play grab ass and dick around for a 12 months or are you saying that the news would get out and his ability to perform recruiting functions would suffer?
How many short and very hairy juco QB's are we currently in on?
i'm not concerned with any of this nonsense.
bill started jake waters
bill pushed sams away
bill forced his ceiling upon us, a shitty 9-3 ceiling which is embarrassing
bill wouldn't recruit studs
bill was old
bill wouldn't fire his shitty assistants
bill was too loyal
bill allowed too many walk-ons
bill greyshirted the wrong players
bill gave his grandson a scholarship
bill wanted his son, a member of the program for 25 years, to continue his legacy
bill got paid too much
what a joke this guy is, good riddance
i'm not concerned with any of this nonsense.
bill started jake waters
bill pushed sams away
bill forced his ceiling upon us, a shitty 9-3 ceiling which is embarrassing
bill wouldn't recruit studs
bill was old
bill wouldn't fire his shitty assistants
bill was too loyal
bill allowed too many walk-ons
bill greyshirted the wrong players
bill gave his grandson a scholarship
bill wanted his son, a member of the program for 25 years, to continue his legacy
bill got paid too much
what a joke this guy is, good riddance
well put, man.
Tressel only wins if he has way more talent than the team he's playing against except for Miami that one time. Ohio State recruited for Ohio State, particularly with Michigan down at the time. He would be awful at go purple fight on state U.
Hmmmmmm, I thought he was a coach-em-up, no?
No, that is the Miami game misconception. He dicked all over the big 10 because he had by far the best talent. tOSU fans hated his crap, unimaginative offense. Look what happened to him vs. the SEC when he didn't have the talent edge.
He in no way, shape, or form had anything close to a talent edge against Miami. Many people close to that program think the 2002 team was their second best ever after the 2001 team.
Ken Dorsey
Wilis McGahee
Frank Gore
Andre Johnson
Kellen Winslow Jr.
Vernon Carey
Vince Wilfork didn't even start
Jerome McDougal
DJamer Williams
Jonathan Vilma
Antrel Rolle
Sean Taylor
That team was absolutely sick and easily the best team Tressel coached against or for.
...what if the reason Bill was so torn up about Vanier being torn down before the final week of the season was that he knew it was his last regular season game and he couldn't spend it in his "home?" What if he really isn't a sociopath who cannot appreciate the benefit of the new facilities to the broader program and to other human being????
Guys, GUYS!?!?
...what if the reason Bill was so torn up about Vanier being torn down before the final week of the season was that he knew it was his last regular season game and he couldn't spend it in his "home?" What if he really isn't a sociopath who cannot appreciate the benefit of the new facilities to the broader program and to other human being????
Guys, GUYS!?!?
its not that far fetched
i'm not concerned with any of this nonsense.
bill started jake waters
bill pushed sams away
bill forced his ceiling upon us, a shitty 9-3 ceiling which is embarrassing
bill wouldn't recruit studs
bill was old
bill wouldn't fire his shitty assistants
bill was too loyal
bill allowed too many walk-ons
bill greyshirted the wrong players
bill gave his grandson a scholarship
bill wanted his son, a member of the program for 25 years, to continue his legacy
bill got paid too much
what a joke this guy is, good riddance
Reality: Probably no one with a stable job is going to come in here and Replace LHC Bill Snyder unless it is for crazy big money. This eliminates a lot of successful current head coaches.
P5 coordinators. Next year will probably be a good year to look to hire with so many power schools having openings this year.
Hope he's got 1 more in him.
What would we think about Bo?
What would we think about Bo?
What would we think about Bo?
I would hate it because he's an embarrassing, disgusting mongloid.
Yeah, but if he could win 9 games at Nebraska, he should be able to win like 15 games a yr at KSU.
If we want a young, firery defensive minded head coach we have a beautiful one that we can just bring home.Yeah, but if he could win 9 games at Nebraska, he should be able to win like 15 games a yr at KSU.
CNS, we have standards at Kansas State that Bo just does not meet.
Currie isn't going to get Scott Frost Nippin @ yo toes so it would be my second choice.Oh man i want him even more now with that name
So, is this the talk on GPC too? There is a couple of "rumor" type threads over there, but I am no member, so just like, you know, kinda wondering?Go join and read them. Then get real cozy and just stay.
I think he is really risk averse. Maybe this is a situation where it is best for him longterm to hire from within. :dunno:Reality: Probably no one with a stable job is going to come in here and Replace LHC LHC Bill Snyder unless it is for crazy big money. This eliminates a lot of successful current head coaches.
P5 coordinators. Next year will probably be a good year to look to hire with so many power schools having openings this year.
Hope he's got 1 more in him.
No successful coach will be scared off by LHC LHC Bill Snyder and his two conference titles. Successful people don't become successful by doubting what they can accomplish.
Currie has made it abundantly clear that he isn't going after an assistant to coach his teams, not one without significant head coaching experience anyway.
Snyder just told media Sean is doing all the work now.:sdeek:
Here we go
Snyder just told media Sean is doing all the work now.
Here we go
Snyder just told media Sean is doing all the work now.
Here we go
:Wha:Snyder just told media Sean is doing all the work now.
Here we go
Exact quote or it didnt happen.
:Wha:Snyder just told media Sean is doing all the work now.
Here we go
Exact quote or it didnt happen.
Just need to find a good ST coach to take over for Sean then it all falls into place
Listen, I know i'm tuck-ish at times, but I don't know how this could be a totally bad thing. Either way, we're going to be gambling on the next hire. We're not hitting a home run no matter what. Why not have Bill whisper in Sean's ear during his retired years? It couldn't hurt and I think most of the staff would remain in tact. :dunno:
If there is no one out there worth getting I would be okay with Dana or possibly Sean taking over for a few years. If they fail maybe it will make it easier to replace Snyder, as the guy they get would'nt have as much to live up to. Idk. Just trying to look on the bright side here.
Has the media to whom Bill allegedly told this said anything about this yet?
Listen, I know i'm tuck-ish at times, but I don't know how this could be a totally bad thing. Either way, we're going to be gambling on the next hire. We're not hitting a home run no matter what. Why not have Bill whisper in Sean's ear during his retired years? It couldn't hurt and I think most of the staff would remain in tact. :dunno:I agree with the basic premise of this.
Has the media to whom Bill allegedly told this said anything about this yet?
In GoT, Jeoffrie has a kings protector that pretty much does everything. That should be the main assistant.If Sean starts wearing a gold chain made of interlocking fists start rough ridin' panicking.
In GoT, Jeoffrie has a kings protector that pretty much does everything. That should be the main assistant.WTF are you talking about? Are you talking about The Hound? He didn't do crap but kill people.
Wasn't his dad his protector or something at the end? His dad pretty much did everything.In GoT, Jeoffrie has a kings protector that pretty much does everything. That should be the main assistant.WTF are you talking about? Are you talking about The Hound? He didn't do crap but kill people.
i think that fact that bill isn't involved at all anymore became pretty obvious last year when he repeatedly kept wondering out loud after games about why daniel didn't play more.
Wasn't his dad his protector or something at the end? His dad pretty much did everything.In GoT, Jeoffrie has a kings protector that pretty much does everything. That should be the main assistant.WTF are you talking about? Are you talking about The Hound? He didn't do crap but kill people.
FYI Wacky, it's JoffreyThanks. Such a smug way to smell that name. :curse:
FYI Wacky, it's JoffreyThanks. Such a smug way to smell that name. :curse:
i think that fact that bill isn't involved at all anymore became pretty obvious last year when he repeatedly kept wondering out loud after games about why daniel didn't play more.
Thank you! It is obvious! I'm on board with sean if he can recognize coaching talent, and then has no problem letting the assistants do their jobs.
i think that fact that bill isn't involved at all anymore became pretty obvious last year when he repeatedly kept wondering out loud after games about why daniel didn't play more.
Thank you! It is obvious! I'm on board with sean if he can recognize coaching talent, and then has no problem letting the assistants do their jobs.
if this happened, then any football coaching hire ever made would be a good one
the "hey bro, you're the head man in charge but we're going to do everything because you don't know crap" conversation never really happens though
i think that fact that bill isn't involved at all anymore became pretty obvious last year when he repeatedly kept wondering out loud after games why daniel didn't play more.
:curse: YOU GET MY POINT! THAT KID DIDN'T DO crap! ALL THE ASSISTANTS MADE THE SHOTS!
:flush:i think that fact that bill isn't involved at all anymore became pretty obvious last year when he repeatedly kept wondering out loud after games about why daniel didn't play more.
Thank you! It is obvious! I'm on board with sean if he can recognize coaching talent, and then has no problem letting the assistants do their jobs.
if this happened, then any football coaching hire ever made would be a good one
the "hey bro, you're the head man in charge but we're going to do everything because you don't know crap" conversation never really happens though
A lot of hires get made on coaching ability, or success in their coaching roles. This doesn't necessarily mean that they can recognize other coaching talent. Bill is a great example of going as far as your assistants will take you.
get out of here with your dungeons and dragons you fuckign dorksEvery post with crap like D&D in should start out with this on the first line:
@dorks
This Tulsa hire could be good for KSU if Bill stays 2 more years. This is a youngish, fast paced coach with TX high school ties getting HC experience.
No one is going to work for SeanI will!
If there is one person I would want to vouch for me it's rough ridin' Jack Cantele.He'll always have TCU!
Listen, I know i'm tuck-ish at times, but I don't know how this could be a totally bad thing. Either way, we're going to be gambling on the next hire. We're not hitting a home run no matter what. Why not have Bill whisper in Sean's ear during his retired years? It couldn't hurt and I think most of the staff would remain in tact. :dunno:
When asking who you should trust more when it comes to high level decisions, the answer usually is the guy who loses his job if wrong.
Bill has never once focused on anything not completely Bill related. He has no idea what other coaches are out there unless they called him to ask him a question in the past.
He has zero to lose by pushing for Sean. Currie has everything to lose. If you want to be an SEC AD and you can't hire a football coach, you might as well find a different career.
You, like the rest of the GPC dummies, are all willing to put their paycheck down on that powerball. More willing to bet on some rough turning diamond that going out and getting a pre cut and polished diamond.
Sean HC with Bill OC until death.
We have basically done nothing but go to bowl games since there were direct flights to Dallas and Chicago from MHK
Speaking of Kevin Lockett, if any of the media fluff about him being the one who got Tyler's rout running on point, we should hire him yesterday.
Wait people aren't all burn it down-y about Sean as HC anymore?
Wait people aren't all burn it down-y about Sean as HC anymore?
Wait people aren't all burn it down-y about Sean as HC anymore?
We should probably not be weirdos afraid to take a chance again. I mean, Sean will still be there in a few years if we eff up.
I'd like for Sean to get a job in another program and be successful there for a couple years.At special teams ?
You, like the rest of the GPC dummies, are all willing to put their paycheck down on that powerball. More willing to bet on some rough turning diamond that going out and getting a pre cut and polished diamond.
We need a new tree to grow, and I'm willing to bet on the seed of the only tree that has ever grown in these conditions.
We should probably not be weirdos afraid to take a chance again. I mean, Sean will still be there in a few years if we eff up.
you don't think trying Sean would be taking a chance?
I am 100% serious that Sean is just as big a risk as anyone we can reasonably get. I mean, I get why people wouldn't like it, but he's honestly got as good a shot at success as anyone we'll get. If that's too small-timey, so be it.
I'd like for Sean to get a job in another program and be successful there for a couple years.At special teams ?
Bill is going to stay as HC until he dies or ADJC leaves, just letting Sean run the show. It is basically my worst nightmare realized.
Oh holy eff!!! Somebody told MIR that Sean is white!!! :horrorsurprise:Listen, I know i'm tuck-ish at times, but I don't know how this could be a totally bad thing. Either way, we're going to be gambling on the next hire. We're not hitting a home run no matter what. Why not have Bill whisper in Sean's ear during his retired years? It couldn't hurt and I think most of the staff would remain in tact. :dunno:
The most annoying thing about tucks is that you can't say anything negative or critical about K-State Sports, unless that negative thing is about Frank Martin or Daniel Sams. However, ironically enough tucks never think K-State is good enough for the best or expects great things out of K-State. "We're average and I like it that way, just don't point it out. Okay?"
Also I used to be Pro-Sean but I got some info that changed my stance. I wish the person that told me this would share the info, because I really want to.
Rusty, I hope you're not just gE-ing here; because that is the most aspiring things I heard form a non-tuck fan as I ever heard.We should probably not be weirdos afraid to take a chance again. I mean, Sean will still be there in a few years if we eff up.
you don't think trying Sean would be taking a chance?
I am 100% serious that Sean is just as big a risk as anyone we can reasonably get. I mean, I get why people wouldn't like it, but he's honestly got as good a shot at success as anyone we'll get. If that's too small-timey, so be it.
He has to show success at something besides st coordinator before he gets a HC position at a top 20 football program.Do you think it would be a huge mistake to move him to OC?
He has to show success at something besides st coordinator before he gets a HC position at a top 20 football program.Do you think it would be a huge mistake to move him to OC?
He has to show success at something besides st coordinator before he gets a HC position at a top 20 football program.like WR coach
I hope this would be the next move; that way we'll know if he creepy eyes this thing up.He has to show success at something besides st coordinator before he gets a HC position at a top 20 football program.Do you think it would be a huge mistake to move him to OC?
Nope, I'd welcome that.
Wacky is thinking of Tywin Lannister, Joffrey's grandfather. He is the one who really runs the realm.FYI Wacky, it's JoffreyThanks. Such a smug way to smell that name. :curse:
Robert Baratheon was never inclined toward humility, nor the incestuous bitch Lannister of a mother who whelped him.
Shut the eff up and stop talking about GOT.
Shut the eff up and stop talking about GOT.
i think that fact that bill isn't involved at all anymore became pretty obvious last year when he repeatedly kept wondering out loud after games why daniel didn't play more.
Na he'd continue to welp new assistant coaches and make his heirs wait while he reigned on into a crotchety old age indefinitely (Then kill Art Briles and his whole family)Shut the eff up and stop talking about GOT.
He's right, this is nothing like GoT. If this were GoT, then Synder would simply usher his son onto the throne and force everyone to deal with it.
Pffttt. Yes, those are the only two things i've ever been critical about. :Ugh:
He was lying, he wanted Waters to play and knew exactly what he was doing.i think that fact that bill isn't involved at all anymore became pretty obvious last year when he repeatedly kept wondering out loud after games why daniel didn't play more.
THIS
Hey, guys! MIR's sitting on something, gather around. :Chirp:
Sean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.So what you're saying is he's willing to work late and go the extra mile
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
always enjoyed that sean story, cartier
Sean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
:DSean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
Well there's one way he's not like his dad, he's actually participating in the lives of his children.
I'm at the point where I'd be okay with an internal hire. Someone who can keep the player development program going while continuing to get young stud coaches that kick ass on the recruiting trail. We're starting to establish a fairly high floor (6-6/7-5) but 10-2 feels like our ceiling right now. If Dana or Sean can go 8-4, 9-3 and make a run at it every 3 or 4 years, that's a home run.
Sean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
Well there's one way he's not like his dad, he's actually participating in the lives of his children.
Sean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
Well there's one way he's not like his dad, he's actually participating in the lives of his children.
Sean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
Well there's one way he's not like his dad, he's actually participating in the lives of his children.
How can you say that? He's basically with Sean everyday, and sees Whitney on Christmas morning.
I can't fathom turning the keys over to someone who's never coached anywhere else but KSU, regardless of the last name.Why?
You guys, If Sean has been doing everything the last two years, he's 17-8 as a HC so far. :Wha:That's great with the established coaches, but what happens if he gets the HC job?
You guys, If Sean has been doing everything the last two years, he's 17-8 as a HC so far. :Wha:
If we hired Sean we would be a laughingstock.
that's a good story cartier
If we hired Sean we would be a laughingstock.
You shut your whore mouth. :dubious:
If we hired Sean we would be a laughingstock.
If we hired Sean we would be a laughingstock.
You shut your whore mouth. :dubious:
seriously, tho. ku gets away with hiring a wr coach and unlv gets away with hiring a high school coach, because no one in america pays attention to those programs. we are always in the spotlight and our coaching search will be followed very closely nationally. the college football community would go apeshit if we hired sean.
From Cf3's story, I got a lot out of it. Sean won't allow sloppiness on his watch. If you're not doing your job right, he's going to tell you about it until you fix it. I think those are great character traits for a head coach. DO YOUR rough ridin' JOB RIGHT, CF3!I knew people like CF3; crybabies all of them.
Like, I have ppl chap my ass about calls on the kickball field. Do I agree with them all the time? No! Am I wrong some times? Sure, maybe. I should be trying to get better everyday and Sean was trying to tell you that cf3, but you took it personally. :nono:
hey, welcome back yard dog
Was chillaxin with some higher up (myself included), Snyder retiring is not on anyone's radar.
First of all clams, the story is 100% true. Secondly, coaches bitch, complain, and argue constantly. But in 8 years of umpiring I only had one continue the argument at my car. I didn't take it personally, it was more like "good grief man, I don't give an eff, I'm going home" and his red face kept arguing.
Listen man, maybe he'll be a great head football coach, and I only interacted with him a few times 9 years ago, so maybe that's an unfair thing to judge him on, but I think he has serious insecurities and character flaws.
First of all clams, the story is 100% true. Secondly, coaches bitch, complain, and argue constantly. But in 8 years of umpiring I only had one continue the argument at my car. I didn't take it personally, it was more like "good grief man, I don't give an eff, I'm going home" and his red face kept arguing.
Listen man, maybe he'll be a great head football coach, and I only interacted with him a few times 9 years ago, so maybe that's an unfair thing to judge him on, but I think he has serious insecurities and character flaws.
First of all clams, the story is 100% true. Secondly, coaches bitch, complain, and argue constantly. But in 8 years of umpiring I only had one continue the argument at my car. I didn't take it personally, it was more like "good grief man, I don't give an eff, I'm going home" and his red face kept arguing.
Listen man, maybe he'll be a great head football coach, and I only interacted with him a few times 9 years ago, so maybe that's an unfair thing to judge him on, but I think he has serious insecurities and character flaws.
did i tell you about that one time i was a water ski instructor in florida and sean came for lessons and despite me trying really hard to make him a good skier, he really sucked and then he wouldn't pay for the lessons b/c he said i didn't teach him enough and then i sued him and won the suit by default judgement b/c he didn't show up and then the court made him pay. the reason he didn't show up was because we were too busy being the number one rough ridin' team in the nation even though we lost to baylor the next week i said eff it sean, here's your $50 back and patted him on the back then we both went to auntie maes and drank white russians for about 5 hours and got bombed and hooked up with some hot pledges from some sororitute who knows man but that sean is a party machine.
First of all clams, the story is 100% true. Secondly, coaches bitch, complain, and argue constantly. But in 8 years of umpiring I only had one continue the argument at my car. I didn't take it personally, it was more like "good grief man, I don't give an eff, I'm going home" and his red face kept arguing.
Listen man, maybe he'll be a great head football coach, and I only interacted with him a few times 9 years ago, so maybe that's an unfair thing to judge him on, but I think he has serious insecurities and character flaws.
First of all clams, the story is 100% true. Secondly, coaches bitch, complain, and argue constantly. But in 8 years of umpiring I only had one continue the argument at my car. I didn't take it personally, it was more like "good grief man, I don't give an eff, I'm going home" and his red face kept arguing.
Listen man, maybe he'll be a great head football coach, and I only interacted with him a few times 9 years ago, so maybe that's an unfair thing to judge him on, but I think he has serious insecurities and character flaws.
did i tell you about that one time i was a water ski instructor in florida and sean came for lessons and despite me trying really hard to make him a good skier, he really sucked and then he wouldn't pay for the lessons b/c he said i didn't teach him enough and then i sued him and won the suit by default judgement b/c he didn't show up and then the court made him pay. the reason he didn't show up was because we were too busy being the number one rough ridin' team in the nation even though we lost to baylor the next week i said eff it sean, here's your $50 back and patted him on the back then we both went to auntie maes and drank white russians for about 5 hours and got bombed and hooked up with some hot pledges from some sororitute who knows man but that sean is a party machine.
Cartier's story just confirms Sean was has no problem getting in the ref's ears. Big 12 refs suck pretty bad, do we really want a coach who just rolls over and lets it happen? Hell no just keep working them over and by the 4th quarter they're calling it just the way you want.
Cartier's story just confirms Sean was has no problem getting in the ref's ears. Big 12 refs suck pretty bad, do we really want a coach who just rolls over and lets it happen? Hell no just keep working them over and by the 4th quarter they're calling it just the way you want.Sean Frank Redemption
your story may be the best piece of pro-Sean evidence we haveCartier's story just confirms Sean was has no problem getting in the ref's ears. Big 12 refs suck pretty bad, do we really want a coach who just rolls over and lets it happen? Hell no just keep working them over and by the 4th quarter they're calling it just the way you want.
I mean, I can co he is super competitive and a complete control freak. I know that's v Snyder-y and a key to being a good coach.
Cartier's story just confirms Sean was has no problem getting in the ref's ears. Big 12 refs suck pretty bad, do we really want a coach who just rolls over and lets it happen? Hell no just keep working them over and by the 4th quarter they're calling it just the way you want.
so, just changed my mind and i'm on the fence here. i want either a super sexy hot piece of ass like venzy/frost who will recruit so many studs, or a huge nerd ball that creates crazy offensive schemes and doesn't give a eff about stealing teams signals, like malzahn (obs not gonna be malzahn, but you get it). there's no in between, and sean is so far in between it's not even funny.
Sean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
so, just changed my mind and i'm on the fence here. i want either a super sexy hot piece of ass like venzy/frost who will recruit so many studs, or a huge nerd ball that creates crazy offensive schemes and doesn't give a eff about stealing teams signals, like malzahn (obs not gonna be malzahn, but you get it). there's no in between, and sean is so far in between it's not even funny.
If you want an assistant coach to be hired as our head coach then you better hope Currie leaves before he hires a football coach. He is 5 for 5 in hiring coaches that were head coaches before they came here.
The mens basketball coach came from Illinois, the womens basketball coach came from TCU, the cross country coach came from North Dakota State, the mens golf coach came from Memphis, and the tennis coach came from McNeese State. Despite this, next season when we do all of this again people will continue to speculate on assistant coaches.
Sean Snyder is a small man, who couldn't coach a little league baseball team effectively (I watched it in person as an umpire). He is extremely insecure and overcompensates constantly. He waited in the parking lot for me and my partner in the parking lot after a game to yell at us. The game was played by 12 year olds, and the calls in question were called correctly.
You might ask "So you watched him coach his kid in baseball, that doesn't mean he can't coach college football right?" I would contend that the character flaws and insecurities I witnessed are deep in him, and will surface if he gets the head coaching job.
Pray that sean snyder is never the head coach at Kansas State in football.
This story is lacking details in all the things I care about for a head football coach.
Follow-up questions:
1. What was the call?
A kid dropped his bat on a follow through swing, and it hit the catcher on Sean's team (possibly his kid) and Sean said it was league policy that this would result in automatic ejection (not league policy). I did not eject the kid. The same kid did it again like 4 innings later, and Sean just lost it. I told both coaches I would call the player out if it happened again, but was not going to eject a 12 year old for accidentally losing the grip on his bat. Sean was furious and said I didn't care about safety blah blah blah. He also argued balls/strikes constantly (I worked maybe 4 or 5 times where he was coaching I think. I dunno this was like 2006) and was always on edge. Bill would sit in the stands and never say a word or do anything.
2. Did you ever make that call against Sean's team again?
Never happened again.
3. Did the team win that game?
Can't remember but I think they lost and it compounded the anger.
4. Did the team win all their other games?
No. In the games I umpired his team was a pretty average team for Manhattan at the time. They would never have been memorable either way (really good, really bad) except for that incident and that Bill was always at the games.*
5. Why do you hate K-State?
I don't.
*He had to hate every minute of being the involved Grandpa.
TIA
NO CALL!
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JFC CF3, contributing to a homicidal maniac. positively #teamseanNO CALL!
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That's pretty convincing evidence. :dunno: #teamsean
I like cf3's storyYea, fun narrative. :)
I like cf3's story
Real talk. Do we hold the Auburn game against Sean and therefore he can't be the coach?
Only in so much that Sean's one rough ridin' job on this earth is to coach the kickers and the one he rolled with lost the game.
Yeah, eff Sean for not being able to read the future and not know that his good kicker from the year before would meltdown on a National stage.
As a ST coach, Sean has not really improved or hurt us since we've been good at ST since like 1991 or something so there's no way to know if he can coach IMO
Real talk. Do we hold the Auburn game against Sean and therefore he can't be the coach?
This is the point i'd have trouble getting over... no matter how gifted a coach Sean is, the resume only says "ST Coordinator" No OC/DC whose worked their ass up crawling through the ranks is going to work for a guy who got to cut in line because of his dad.I like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
Currie isn't hiring Sean.
Who are some hot coordinators that our HFBIQ-types would like to see?
Oh. So who are some guys with such experience?
Peggy Po: A non-Sean coach gets us say, 20 wins over a 2 season span probably leaves for another gig. Sean would not if he did that.CF3, you are a good poster, but that Is unconfident loser syndrome you described.
I like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
I like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
Currie is not hiring Sean.Brady Hoke
He is not hiring anyone on staff.
He is not hiring a sexy coordinator.
He is not hiring any current coach at another university.
He is hiring someone who is known for mediocrity. Someone who had 9 wins the last few seasons and then got fired for mediocrity. We get Bo, you guys.
I like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
Another thing about assistants, I feel like if we took Sean we would get him at a garbage HC salary and that means asst. coaches also get garbage salaries so we are less attractive. Similar to what KU has done.
Best move in KSU basketball historyI like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
Another thing about assistants, I feel like if we took Sean we would get him at a garbage HC salary and that means asst. coaches also get garbage salaries so we are less attractive. Similar to what KU has done.
The myth of paying a HC low money so he can overspend on staff is pretty common, except when Frank got Delonte which doesn't get enough credit as an insanely intelligent move.
nope HugginsBest move in KSU basketball historyI like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
Another thing about assistants, I feel like if we took Sean we would get him at a garbage HC salary and that means asst. coaches also get garbage salaries so we are less attractive. Similar to what KU has done.
The myth of paying a HC low money so he can overspend on staff is pretty common, except when Frank got Delonte which doesn't get enough credit as an insanely intelligent move.
Well, that was a no-brainer. Giving Hill the money took some balls.nope HugginsBest move in KSU basketball historyI like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
Another thing about assistants, I feel like if we took Sean we would get him at a garbage HC salary and that means asst. coaches also get garbage salaries so we are less attractive. Similar to what KU has done.
The myth of paying a HC low money so he can overspend on staff is pretty common, except when Frank got Delonte which doesn't get enough credit as an insanely intelligent move.
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Ok so Huggins = best moveThis makes me think of a good question: Who is our football Huggins? Tressel I guess.
Paying assistants = ballsiest
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If the other units were as good as special teams, we would be in the top 4 and playing to win the CFP.Real talk. Do we hold the Auburn game against Sean and therefore he can't be the coach?
Let's see, K-State has a kicker who is nearly automatic last year and kicked some huge FGs, has a bad night in a game where everyone seemed to make stupid mistakes (Lockett, really?), and by the next game replaces the guy with another near-automatic kicker.
And you think this talking point is a knock on Sean?
I'm not quite on the Sean-for-head-coach bandwagon, but you cannot deny K-State's special teams have been one of the most consistently exceptional aspects of K-State's team over the last few years.
Is no one else alarmed by the proliferation of yard dog socks? He's almost half the board now.Thx. Luke of Bread
I have never heard of a player getting ejected for a bat hitting a catcher. Who in the eff believes that? (Sean, I guess). I have seen kids get called out 'cause of it though......Do you, cause you sound like a dumbass. #wackysquawk
If Sean does not know the rules for 12 < baseball, he does not know didly poo about major college football....IMO :flush:
I would feel really good about having a coach like Tressel run the show.Ok so Huggins = best moveThis makes me think of a good question: Who is our football Huggins? Tressel I guess.
Paying assistants = ballsiest
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Ok so Huggins = best move
Paying assistants = ballsiest
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Bill isn't retiring this year so none of this even matters.
:dunno:Bill isn't retiring this year so none of this even matters.
But what if he does?
:dunno:Bill isn't retiring this year so none of this even matters.
But what if he does?
This is the point i'd have trouble getting over... no matter how gifted a coach Sean is, the resume only says "ST Coordinator" No OC/DC whose worked their ass up crawling through the ranks is going to work for a guy who got to cut in line because of his dad.I like cf3's story
I do too, but it doesn't factor into my thoughts on why he should or shouldn't be the next coach at K-State. I think a lot of football coaches would behave like he did around kids' baseball.
That said, I don't know why any decent coordinator or high level assistant would want to work for Sean. I mean, he's been a football ops guy most of his "coaching" life and handled punters and kickers. His dad finally let him "take over" special teams the last few years, but I simply don't think he's qualified at all to be a head coach at a Power 5 school. If at some point during his career he had left and become a real assistant or coordinator with some success maybe he'd be a consideration, but he never has done anything like that.
so, just changed my mind and i'm on the fence here. i want either a super sexy hot piece of ass like venzy/frost who will recruit so many studs, or a huge nerd ball that creates crazy offensive schemes and doesn't give a eff about stealing teams signals, like malzahn (obs not gonna be malzahn, but you get it). there's no in between, and sean is so far in between it's not even funny.
If you want an assistant coach to be hired as our head coach then you better hope Currie leaves before he hires a football coach. He is 5 for 5 in hiring coaches that were head coaches before they came here.
The mens basketball coach came from Illinois, the womens basketball coach came from TCU, the cross country coach came from North Dakota State, the mens golf coach came from Memphis, and the tennis coach came from McNeese State. Despite this, next season when we do all of this again people will continue to speculate on assistant coaches.
Already shared this in the Ron Prince Stories thread but....
When RP was the coach Sean Snyder was some associate athletic director AND the "Its late at night and I mumped up who do I call to sweep it under the rug guy". His number was given to players and they were told to call him anytime if they were in a "situation".
Pretty good experience to have as a head coach IMO.
Question: Is hiring Sean k-stateo?I always considered case K-Stateo to be more of an aesthetics thing
I like this Coastal Carolina coach. Former Wall Street CEO.Is he the guy with the weird press conferences?
I like this Coastal Carolina coach. Former Wall Street CEO.
I love weird press conferences.I like this Coastal Carolina coach. Former Wall Street CEO.Is he the guy with the weird press conferences?
so, just changed my mind and i'm on the fence here. i want either a super sexy hot piece of ass like venzy/frost who will recruit so many studs, or a huge nerd ball that creates crazy offensive schemes and doesn't give a eff about stealing teams signals, like malzahn (obs not gonna be malzahn, but you get it). there's no in between, and sean is so far in between it's not even funny.
If you want an assistant coach to be hired as our head coach then you better hope Currie leaves before he hires a football coach. He is 5 for 5 in hiring coaches that were head coaches before they came here.
The mens basketball coach came from Illinois, the womens basketball coach came from TCU, the cross country coach came from North Dakota State, the mens golf coach came from Memphis, and the tennis coach came from McNeese State. Despite this, next season when we do all of this again people will continue to speculate on assistant coaches.
Let's not pretend that women's hoops, men's golf and tennis are barometers for who a head football coach would be. All those hires do is show me that we're no longer doing hobby sports on the cheap.
Oh. So who are some guys with such experience?
Why don't you guys think Sean would be a good hire? He has been here for awhile and always has our specials teams at the top of the conference.
Why don't you guys think Sean would be a good hire? He has been here for awhile and always has our specials teams at the top of the conference.
:facepalm:
I don't know why you think this deserves a facepalm. He knows the system and has shown he can coach his kids to a high level. I'm sure Bill has shown him how to recruit the juco ranks and develop players that come in. I just think it wouldn't be a bad hire.
Some of the posts here are simiar to those prior to Sean Sutton being hired at my alma matter. Especially those which suggest how little coaching their dads were doing and how their roles had expanded.
I have it on good authority that Sean will not be the next head coach, because Sean prefers the Administrator/Operations role. Sean doea not desire the head coaching job.
I have it on good authority that Sean will not be the next head coach, because Sean prefers the Administrator/Operations role. Sean doea not desire the head coaching job.
Someone better tell Bill
Why don't you guys think Sean would be a good hire? He has been here for awhile and always has our specials teams at the top of the conference.
Some of the posts here are simiar to those prior to Sean Sutton being hired at my alma matter. Especially those which suggest how little coaching their dads were doing and how their roles had expanded.
was Sean Sutton also the Director of Basketball Operations?
any TTU fans here? Please tell us about the Knight to son of Knight transitioning.
or Kirk Douglas to Michael Douglas
or Tom Hanks and son of Tom Hanks (eff that one Dexter season)
Just because it doesn't usually happen, doesn't mean it can't. #KSU #DoingNepotismRightSome of the posts here are simiar to those prior to Sean Sutton being hired at my alma matter. Especially those which suggest how little coaching their dads were doing and how their roles had expanded.
was Sean Sutton also the Director of Basketball Operations?
any TTU fans here? Please tell us about the Knight to son of Knight transitioning.
or Kirk Douglas to Michael Douglas
or Tom Hanks and son of Tom Hanks (eff that one Dexter season)
This.
Question: Is hiring Sean k-stateo?I always considered case K-Stateo to be more of an aesthetics thing
I still would like LeachDid WSU fire him yet?
I'm freaking out
because at least when we were bad at football we were good at bballI'm freaking out
Why?
Jfc. Snyder will be here another 3 years.
Jfc. Snyder will be here another 3 years.Tell these losers, Wacky. My gosh...
Jfc. Snyder will be here another 3 years.yes but the future is scary wacky
Question: Is hiring Sean k-stateo?I always considered case K-Stateo to be more of an aesthetics thing
Incorrect. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTe8BBOefOY&t=1m7s)
Jfc. Snyder will be here another 3 years.yes but the future is scary wacky
Actually, I really did.Question: Is hiring Sean k-stateo?I always considered case K-Stateo to be more of an aesthetics thing
Incorrect. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTe8BBOefOY&t=1m7s)
Jfc. Snyder will be here another 3 years.CASE CLOSED
Hell yeah it is.Jfc. Snyder will be here another 3 years.yes but the future is scary wacky
Someones gotta keep them in line. :curse:Jfc. Snyder will be here another 3 years.Tell these losers, Wacky. My gosh...
I'm not worried guys. When Snyder retires, Optimus Klein is ready to step in for the next 50 years. Go Cats.
I'm not worried guys. When Snyder retires, Optimus Klein is ready to step in for the next 50 years. Go Cats.
Is 2Y ready to give up on the NFL and get into coaching? He would probably be better than Klein, IMO.
I'm not worried guys. When Snyder retires, Optimus Klein is ready to step in for the next 50 years. Go Cats.
Is 2Y ready to give up on the NFL and get into coaching? He would probably be better than Klein, IMO.
you ob's haven't seen how CK handles the youngsters at his super stud elite qb passing academy. he'll be ready.
How do you guys feel about Butch Davis?
How do you guys feel about Butch Davis?
I think Bo Pelini could get over that 9 win hump at KState.
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I think Bo Pelini could get over that 9 win hump at KState.
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No, Bo is who he is. He's not going to have great success anywhere.
How do you guys feel about Butch Davis?
I called this shot during The U Part II
How do you guys feel about Butch Davis?
Would take. I think he might be as toxic/more toxic than tressel tho.
How do you guys feel about Butch Davis?
I called this shot during The U Part II
Bo could have easily done better at Nebraska. He needs to take a year or two off and visit all his old buds to get fresh ideas and come back better than ever.
Butch Davis is a recruiting machine. Sign him up.
Bo could have easily done better at Nebraska.
Bo could have easily done better at Nebraska.
if it was easy, why didn't he?
Bo could have easily done better at Nebraska.
if it was easy, why didn't he?
bad luck. I mean remember when the refs took away his Big 12 champy? And he lost another by not very much. Makes a big difference in perception if either of those go the other way.
How do you guys feel about Butch Davis?
i don't know. Bo lost the last 6 straight games vs ranked teams. He was 1-9 in his last 10 games vs ranked teams dating back to 2011 (the lone win came vs #20 Michigan in 2012).
since 2010 Bo is 3-12 vs ranked teams. in his tenure at Nebraska he is 7-17 vs ranked teams. that has to be the #1 reason he was fired, right? also it's not like he never lost to bad teams. he was terrible vs ranked teams, and also lost to bad teams enough to get fired.
i don't know. Bo lost the last 6 straight games vs ranked teams. He was 1-9 in his last 10 games vs ranked teams dating back to 2011 (the lone win came vs #20 Michigan in 2012).
since 2010 Bo is 3-12 vs ranked teams. in his tenure at Nebraska he is 7-17 vs ranked teams. that has to be the #1 reason he was fired, right? also it's not like he never lost to bad teams. he was terrible vs ranked teams, and also lost to bad teams enough to get fired.
most coaches have bad records against ranked teams. I don't think 7-17 is that bad. What's Snyder's record against ranked teams since 2010?
Bo since 2011:
@ #7 Wisconsin L 17-48
vs #9 Mich State W 24-3
@ #12 Penn State W 17-14
@ #20 Michigan L 17-45
vs #9 S Carolina L 13-30*
@ #12 Ohio State L 38-63
vs #20 Michigan W 23-9
vs #5 Georgia L 31-45*
vs #16 UCLA L 21-41
vs #14 Mich State L 28-41
@ #10 Mich State L 22-27
@ #20 Wisconsin L 24-59
vs #25 Minnesota L 24-28
3-10, 299-453
Bill since 2011:
vs #15 Baylor W 36-35
vs #11 Oklahoma L 17-58
@ #3 Oklahoma St L 45-52
vs #5 Arkansas L 16-29*
@ #6 Oklahoma W 24-19
@ #17 West Virginia W 55-14
vs #15 Texas Tech W 55-24
vs #23 Texas W 42-24
vs #2 Oregon L 17-35*
@ #21 Oklahoma St L 29-33
vs #15 Baylor L 25-35
@ #25 Texas Tech W 49-26
vs #22 Oklahoma L 31-41
vs #5 Auburn L 14-20
@ #11 Oklahoma W 31-30
@ #6 TCU L 20-41
@ #6 Baylor L 27-38
7-10, 533-554
* bowl game
one last thing:
losses to unranked teams since 2011
Bo
2011 vs Northwestern L 25-28
2012 @ UCLA L 30-36
2012 vs Wisconsin L 31-70*
2013 @ Minnesota L 23-34
2013 vs Iowa L 17-38
Bill
2012 vs Baylor L 24-52
2013 vs ND State L 21-24
2013 @ Texas L 21-31
one last thing:
losses to unranked teams since 2011
Bo
2011 vs Northwestern L 25-28
2012 @ UCLA L 30-36
2012 vs Wisconsin L 31-70*
2013 @ Minnesota L 23-34
2013 vs Iowa L 17-38
Bill
2012 vs Baylor L 24-52
2013 vs ND State L 21-24
2013 @ Texas L 21-31
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse. It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse. It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.
Except when you look at actual ratings that combine FBS and FCS competition, NDSU was a Top 25 team last year.
We can get mad about that loss, and we honestly should because we had it won, but it's not like they're South Dakota State or anything. NDSU probably could have won the Mountain West, or at least competed, in the last few years.
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse. It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.
Except when you look at actual ratings that combine FBS and FCS competition, NDSU was a Top 25 team last year.
We can get mad about that loss, and we honestly should because we had it won, but it's not like they're South Dakota State or anything. NDSU probably could have won the Mountain West, or at least competed, in the last few years.
oh jesus christ
Every time that NDSU loss is brought up it just looks worse and worse. It's gotta be one of the top five losses, if not the worst loss of LHCBS's career.
Except when you look at actual ratings that combine FBS and FCS competition, NDSU was a Top 25 team last year.
We can get mad about that loss, and we honestly should because we had it won, but it's not like they're South Dakota State or anything. NDSU probably could have won the Mountain West, or at least competed, in the last few years.
oh jesus christ
You missed the bold part.
for reference, here's what some other B12/big 10 coaches (who have coached the same team in the same conference since at least 2011) have done in the same span:
Bill: 7-10 vs ranked, 31-3 vs unranked, 38-13 overall
Briles 9-6 vs ranked, 31-5 vs unranked, 40-11 overall
Stoops 9-9 vs ranked, 30-3 vs unranked, 39-12 overall
Gundy 10-10 vs ranked, 26-5 vs unranked, 36-15 overall
Rhoads 3-17 vs ranked, 14-16 vs unranked, 17-33 overall
Bo: 3-10 vs ranked, 34-5 vs unranked, 37-15 overall
Kill: 2-11 vs ranked, 23-14 vs unranked, 25-25 overall
D'Antonio: 8-9 vs ranked, 33-3 vs unranked, 41-12 overall
Ferentz: 1-9 vs ranked, 25-15 vs unranked, 26-24 overall
Fitzgerald: 3-6 vs ranked, 23-18 vs unkranked, 26-24 overall
amazing how shitty the big 10 is. for example in 2012, Northwestern did not play a single ranked team (including their bowl game!)
are Iowa fans just as bad or worse than ISU fans? Ferentz has been there a million years and makes a ton of money and hasn't won crap.
are Iowa fans just as bad or worse than ISU fans? Ferentz has been there a million years and makes a ton of money and hasn't won crap.
are Iowa fans just as bad or worse than ISU fans? Ferentz has been there a million years and makes a ton of money and hasn't won crap.
don't be an idiot. he is 115–84 (.578) at iowa. what the hell are you supposed to win at iowa?
are Iowa fans just as bad or worse than ISU fans? Ferentz has been there a million years and makes a ton of money and hasn't won crap.
don't be an idiot. he is 115–84 (.578) at iowa. what the hell are you supposed to win at iowa?
when you play in a garbage division and your coach has been there for 16 freaking years, you think you'd be rolling and contending for division titles at least. In his last 5 years he's 19-21 in a garbage league, yet Iowa people I work with continue to call him Captain Kirk and seem to think they can't do any better. Very ISU'ey.
are Iowa fans just as bad or worse than ISU fans? Ferentz has been there a million years and makes a ton of money and hasn't won crap.
don't be an idiot. he is 115–84 (.578) at iowa. what the hell are you supposed to win at iowa?
when you play in a garbage division and your coach has been there for 16 freaking years, you think you'd be rolling and contending for division titles at least. In his last 5 years he's 19-21 in a garbage league, yet Iowa people I work with continue to call him Captain Kirk and seem to think they can't do any better. Very ISU'ey.
Do they live in Iowa? Most Iowa fans I know are either mad or are just okay with his results (this is what I was warning about when we discussed expectations of our program), I don't know anyone who loves Ferentz.
"I'm not going to be the next Head Coach of the KSU Cats, and you can't make me dad", exclaimed Sean as he stomped off to his room.
"I'm not going to be the next Head Coach of the KSU Cats, and you can't make me dad", exclaimed Sean as he stomped off to his room.
Some woman at my office has a husband who works for a company that makes cabinets, her husband was a towny and she claims to be good friends with Sean. She said today that Bill is retiring, wants Sean to be the next guy but Sean doesn't want to. She says Bill will announce after the Alamo Bowl. I don't believe her at all, but she seemed pretty confident in her statement
are Iowa fans just as bad or worse than ISU fans? Ferentz has been there a million years and makes a ton of money and hasn't won crap.
don't be an idiot. he is 115–84 (.578) at iowa. what the hell are you supposed to win at iowa?
when you play in a garbage division and your coach has been there for 16 freaking years, you think you'd be rolling and contending for division titles at least. In his last 5 years he's 19-21 in a garbage league, yet Iowa people I work with continue to call him Captain Kirk and seem to think they can't do any better. Very ISU'ey.
Do they live in Iowa? Most Iowa fans I know are either mad or are just okay with his results (this is what I was warning about when we discussed expectations of our program), I don't know anyone who loves Ferentz.
no, they live in KC. they are probably just scared of the unknown, I mean 16 years, wow.
Panjam and meow totally luked felix
What about mark Hudspeth? :dunno:in two years maybe
36 wins in 4 seasons. Pretty good.other coaches players same oline for 4 years ect ect
What about mark Hudspeth? :dunno:
Hudspeth would be fine. He had an extremely strong program at North Alabama and went deep into the playoffs almost every year. He's won four straight bowl games and has really kicked a lot of ass in the Sun Belt.
If the last few offseasons have taught us anything, it's that you're going to be underwhelmed by who you hire. Look up Hudspeth and where he was before ULL. He's been pretty excellent everywhere. That's a more impressive resume than what I think we'll ultimately be able to pull.
To me, his only knock from coaching here is that he's never really been in the Midwest. He's almost coached exclusively in SEC territory. But I'd be happy with him for sure.
We don't "bend iron" at K-State, we chop wood.Hudspeth would be fine. He had an extremely strong program at North Alabama and went deep into the playoffs almost every year. He's won four straight bowl games and has really kicked a lot of ass in the Sun Belt.
If the last few offseasons have taught us anything, it's that you're going to be underwhelmed by who you hire. Look up Hudspeth and where he was before ULL. He's been pretty excellent everywhere. That's a more impressive resume than what I think we'll ultimately be able to pull.
To me, his only knock from coaching here is that he's never really been in the Midwest. He's almost coached exclusively in SEC territory. But I'd be happy with him for sure.
A plus he has a pair of softball pitcher thighs for biceps. Can probably bend iron and such.
What about mark Hudspeth? :dunno:I'm not sure he's a program builder or a recruiter.
What about mark Hudspeth? :dunno:I'm not sure he's a program builder or a recruiter.
He turned UL around from 3-9 and has them going like 9-3/10-2 every year with usually at least 1 bodybag game. Plus his roster is huge and much more talented compared to the rest of the Sun Belt. His o/d-lines look like men against boys, and usually play that way too.
Not sure he'd be the answer for EMAW, but he gets super fired up and angry about things and would probably get a lot of people fist pumping.
Malzahn came from Arkansas State, no?
Hugh Freeze came from Arkansas State too.
I think you have to make a solid, unrisky hire, after Snyder retires/dies. If our next hire flops there's no coming back. If we maintain an 8-9 win season norm, then our next hire becomes a lot easier. Sorry if that's a tucky view. But not really because I think it's true.
I think hiring either Montgomery or Herman, whoever does better at their current head coaching jobs, would be a great way to go (assuming this all goes down in 2+ years).
#TeamSean
#TeamSean
#TeamSean
I think you have to make a solid, unrisky hire, after Snyder retires/dies. If our next hire flops there's no coming back. If we maintain an 8-9 win season norm, then our next hire becomes a lot easier. Sorry if that's a tucky view. But not really because I think it's true.
I think hiring either Montgomery or Herman, whoever does better at their current head coaching jobs, would be a great way to go (assuming this all goes down in 2+ years).
you're wrong, we can handle a flop hire.
That all made perfect sense to him. Figured it right the eff out.
kick their asses EMAWesome
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how do you assholes feel now
how do you assholes feel now
What about the other 9%?
What about the other 9%?Derick Hammes.
What about the other 9%?Derick Hammes.
Finally someone sees what I have seen in Sean for quite a long time.
Finally someone sees what I have seen in Sean for quite a long time.
Finally someone sees what I have seen in Sean for quite a long time.
oh, wtf yard dog
You can't tell me you don't see the potential.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=34095.0Finally someone sees what I have seen in Sean for quite a long time.
oh, wtf yard dog
You can't tell me you don't see the potential.
I'm referring to you starting ANOTHER account.
Finally someone sees what I have seen in Sean for quite a long time.
oh, wtf yard dog
You can't tell me you don't see the potential.
I'm referring to you starting ANOTHER account.
Of course it is... :jerk:Finally someone sees what I have seen in Sean for quite a long time.
oh, wtf yard dog
You can't tell me you don't see the potential.
I'm referring to you starting ANOTHER account.
fwiw that is someone else's sock. . not me.
Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
you gotta post a better picture than that. gE will not get on board if that is what they have to base it on.What about the other 9%?Derick Hammes.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B48KcmWIMAElH4a.jpg)
One thing I noticed about his Ohio State team. They were the most fundamentally sound tackling teams of the era. Don't know who should get the credit, tho.Mark Dantonio
Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
He will be beyond us soon.
I'd be all in on Hudspeth. ALL IN.Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
He will be beyond us soon.
if/when bill announces between now and the end of bowl season, he wouldn't be beyond us (we'd be the best job he'd be qualified for, imo, though he may decide to wait for something else to open up). don't know if he's a safe enough hire for currie though. he's only 38, with three years of HC experience (only one of them has been a wining season). Mark Hudspeth is more Currie's guy, imo.
I'd be all in on Hudspeth. ALL IN.Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
He will be beyond us soon.
if/when bill announces between now and the end of bowl season, he wouldn't be beyond us (we'd be the best job he'd be qualified for, imo, though he may decide to wait for something else to open up). don't know if he's a safe enough hire for currie though. he's only 38, with three years of HC experience (only one of them has been a wining season). Mark Hudspeth is more Currie's guy, imo.
Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
He will be beyond us soon.
if/when bill announces between now and the end of bowl season, he wouldn't be beyond us (we'd be the best job he'd be qualified for, imo, though he may decide to wait for something else to open up). don't know if he's a safe enough hire for currie though. he's only 38, with three years of HC experience (only one of them has been a wining season). Mark Hudspeth is more Currie's guy, imo.
I'd be all in on Hudspeth. ALL IN.Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
He will be beyond us soon.
if/when bill announces between now and the end of bowl season, he wouldn't be beyond us (we'd be the best job he'd be qualified for, imo, though he may decide to wait for something else to open up). don't know if he's a safe enough hire for currie though. he's only 38, with three years of HC experience (only one of them has been a wining season). Mark Hudspeth is more Currie's guy, imo.
the thing I like about Fuente is that I don't know for sure that he sucks. he may, but he also may not.
Hammes is 43-44. Just sayin'.
Gonna win 'em all!
Guys, what is the percentage chance that our next head coach's name is currently in this thread? 50%?
I mean, we try and think like Currie, but it's really hard to do.
Guys, what is the percentage chance that our next head coach's name is currently in this thread? 50%?
I mean, we try and think like Currie, but it's really hard to do.
Guys, what is the percentage chance that our next head coach's name is currently in this thread? 50%?
I mean, we try and think like Currie, but it's really hard to do.
God only knows what goes on in a Dallas hotel room.
Fuente's OC is none other than Darrell Dickey (KSU connection!). His DC is Barry Odoom (coached at MU from 03-11).
that is age related, not record related. He is 43 or 44 years old. His record is probably 685-7 or something like that.Hammes is 43-44. Just sayin'.
Gonna win 'em all!
Take it to the All Time Record Squawk Smack Talk Thread.
i really think it's going to be dimel with sean as OC and most of the current coaches staying and then bill stays on as a consultant or informally stays involved somehow. dana does have previous HC experience and a lot of people thought he got the shaft at UH. continuity, keep things rolling. i think we'll settle in as a 7-5ish team that occasionally challenges for a title when things line up.Well that is rough ridin' depressing.
i really think it's going to be dimel with sean as OC and most of the current coaches staying and then bill stays on as a consultant or informally stays involved somehow. dana does have previous HC experience and a lot of people thought he got the shaft at UH. continuity, keep things rolling. i think we'll settle in as a 7-5ish team that occasionally challenges for a title when things line up.Well that is rough ridin' depressing.
i really think it's going to be dimel with sean as OC and most of the current coaches staying and then bill stays on as a consultant or informally stays involved somehow. dana does have previous HC experience and a lot of people thought he got the shaft at UH. continuity, keep things rolling. i think we'll settle in as a 7-5ish team that occasionally challenges for a title when things line up.Well that is rough ridin' depressing.
I think the bright side of the above is that Sean isn't the coach. I'd rather have a Dimel than Sean. But, do we really have any reason to think Sean can effectively coach anything but Special Teams????
i really think it's going to be dimel with sean as OC and most of the current coaches staying and then bill stays on as a consultant or informally stays involved somehow. dana does have previous HC experience and a lot of people thought he got the shaft at UH. continuity, keep things rolling. i think we'll settle in as a 7-5ish team that occasionally challenges for a title when things line up.That scenario keeps Currie here for the rest of his life, not moving on to an AD job where a nut fry is not a required booster meet n greet so I don't think Dimel at HC will happen.
that is age related, not record related. He is 43 or 44 years old. His record is probably 685-7 or something like that.Hammes is 43-44. Just sayin'.
Gonna win 'em all!
Take it to the All Time Record Squawk Smack Talk Thread.
Gonna win 'em all!
:rolleyes:Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
He will be beyond us soon.
:rolleyes:Posted on the wrong get thread earlier. Justin Fuente from Memphis?
He will be beyond us soon.
so have we nailed down a realistic and good hire for KSU yet?
You guys would be better suited in the "recruiting thread"... All this may hinge on whether we find somebody to come in and compete immediately at QB for next year. We have "serviceable" on the roster, we need a game changer to ensure this discussion gets postponed for another 12-24 months.
:buh-bye:
or is it still on the table for snyder to do a middle of the summer hey i'm sick and sean is going to take HC duties over? seems like last summer would've been the year to do that with a senior qb and lockett. this year? yikes.
or is it still on the table for snyder to do a middle of the summer hey i'm sick and sean is going to take HC duties over? seems like last summer would've been the year to do that with a senior qb and lockett. this year? yikes.
It would be amazingly selfish if Bill were to wait until the off-season and pull a "hey I am sick so Sean is the new coach," given the weak roster we have returning THIS YEAR. Last summer would have ENSURED that Sean got started off right. Kind of a missed opportunity for the Snyder family.
or is it still on the table for snyder to do a middle of the summer hey i'm sick and sean is going to take HC duties over? seems like last summer would've been the year to do that with a senior qb and lockett. this year? yikes.
It would be amazingly selfish if Bill were to wait until the off-season and pull a "hey I am sick so Sean is the new coach," given the weak roster we have returning THIS YEAR. Last summer would have ENSURED that Sean got started off right. Kind of a missed opportunity for the Snyder family.
I heard from a pretty HADIQ source this week that when Bill retires, Sean is either in some sort of admin. Role or he'll be retiring himself. Has no desire to leave Manhattan.or is it still on the table for snyder to do a middle of the summer hey i'm sick and sean is going to take HC duties over? seems like last summer would've been the year to do that with a senior qb and lockett. this year? yikes.
It would be amazingly selfish if Bill were to wait until the off-season and pull a "hey I am sick so Sean is the new coach," given the weak roster we have returning THIS YEAR. Last summer would have ENSURED that Sean got started off right. Kind of a missed opportunity for the Snyder family.
If Bill retires when Currie has to hire Sean, Currie will just make him an interim coach.
Also with the hire of the soccer coach, Currie is 6 for 6 at hiring non assistant coaches to take over our programs. This one is slightly different in which it is a D2 head coach.
lol at thinking 38 is too young for a HC hire at any school
lol at thinking 38 is too young for a HC hire at any school
Manny Diaz (goE's pick to replace Snyds 1), says hi, you rough ridin' dolt.
lol at thinking 38 is too young for a HC hire at any school
Manny Diaz (goE's pick to replace Snyds 1), says hi, you rough ridin' dolt.
lol wut
What about skip holtz?
lol at thinking 38 is too young for a HC hire at any school
Manny Diaz (goE's pick to replace Snyds 1), says hi, you rough ridin' dolt.
lol wut
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/12/27/7454911/kyle-whittingham-utah-football-coach
Could be available! Also, we could be competing against Utah for our next coach.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/12/27/7454911/kyle-whittingham-utah-football-coach
Could be available! Also, we could be competing against Utah for our next coach.
That is possibly the most Currie hire that could ever happen.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/12/27/7454911/kyle-whittingham-utah-football-coach
Could be available! Also, we could be competing against Utah for our next coach.
That is possibly the most Currie hire that could ever happen.
Even though he looks like Lurch from the Adam's Family, I'm going to consider Steve Addazio as my guy whenever this happens. Back to back 7 win seasons at BC is like 10 at a reputable power 5 school.
Even though he looks like Lurch from the Adam's Family, I'm going to consider Steve Addazio as my guy whenever this happens. Back to back 7 win seasons at BC is like 10 at a reputable power 5 school.Will take
Even though he looks like Lurch from the Adam's Family, I'm going to consider Steve Addazio as my guy whenever this happens. Back to back 7 win seasons at BC is like 10 at a reputable power 5 school.Will take
https://vine.co/u/959488597608878080
I don't want Addazio. 7 wins at BC doesn't equate to 10 at a better school outside of the Big 10 or ACC.
Even though he looks like Lurch from the Adam's Family, I'm going to consider Steve Addazio as my guy whenever this happens. Back to back 7 win seasons at BC is like 10 at a reputable power 5 school.Will take
https://vine.co/u/959488597608878080
#BeADude is stupid. That wouldn't and shouldn't fly at K-State.
Did you watch all the videos? They're hilarious.Even though he looks like Lurch from the Adam's Family, I'm going to consider Steve Addazio as my guy whenever this happens. Back to back 7 win seasons at BC is like 10 at a reputable power 5 school.Will take
https://vine.co/u/959488597608878080
#BeADude is stupid. That wouldn't and shouldn't fly at K-State.
Coaches love nothing more than the opportunity of not having to do crap like that to get people to show up. Did it look to you like he enjoyed that?
Did you watch all the videos? They're hilarious.Even though he looks like Lurch from the Adam's Family, I'm going to consider Steve Addazio as my guy whenever this happens. Back to back 7 win seasons at BC is like 10 at a reputable power 5 school.Will take
https://vine.co/u/959488597608878080
#BeADude is stupid. That wouldn't and shouldn't fly at K-State.
Coaches love nothing more than the opportunity of not having to do crap like that to get people to show up. Did it look to you like he enjoyed that?
That or the training camp oneDid you watch all the videos? They're hilarious.Even though he looks like Lurch from the Adam's Family, I'm going to consider Steve Addazio as my guy whenever this happens. Back to back 7 win seasons at BC is like 10 at a reputable power 5 school.Will take
https://vine.co/u/959488597608878080
#BeADude is stupid. That wouldn't and shouldn't fly at K-State.
Coaches love nothing more than the opportunity of not having to do crap like that to get people to show up. Did it look to you like he enjoyed that?
LOL, no I just thought it was just the shitty one on top. The stuck in the middle one was my favorite.
I don't want Addazio. 7 wins at BC doesn't equate to 10 at a better school outside of the Big 10 or ACC.
It absolutely does. BC is cold Duke and Wake Forest but like a thousand miles from any good players. Outside of Duke and Wake Forest there are no other schools in the Big 10 or ACC that even comes close to a reasonable comparison to Boston College. I'm interested in knowing your rationale as to why BC isn't a horribly shitty football outpost? Is it their vast history of winning football, stellar recruiting classes, their amazing facilities, their huge budget, or their legion of fans? They literally have nothing. Like I said even Tobacco Road has Tobacco Road and weather on their side. I love Boston but there aren't hundreds of good college football prospects (hell hundreds of college prospects period) lining up to play four years in Boston in front of 30,000 fans a game.
I don't want Addazio. 7 wins at BC doesn't equate to 10 at a better school outside of the Big 10 or ACC.
It absolutely does. BC is cold Duke and Wake Forest but like a thousand miles from any good players. Outside of Duke and Wake Forest there are no other schools in the Big 10 or ACC that even comes close to a reasonable comparison to Boston College. I'm interested in knowing your rationale as to why BC isn't a horribly shitty football outpost? Is it their vast history of winning football, stellar recruiting classes, their amazing facilities, their huge budget, or their legion of fans? They literally have nothing. Like I said even Tobacco Road has Tobacco Road and weather on their side. I love Boston but there aren't hundreds of good college football prospects (hell hundreds of college prospects period) lining up to play four years in Boston in front of 30,000 fans a game.
BC is a shitty job, but you get to play schools like Wake Forest, Duke, NC State, Syracuse, and Pitt in your conference schedule. Throw in an OOC win vs Maine and I would say Proud Paul has had better years at ISU. I think what Addazio has done at BC would translate to 10 wins at a good program in the Big 10 or ACC, but it probably translates to 7 wins in a conference where you only get to schedule 3 OOC games and have to play Texas, OU, TCU, Baylor, and OSU every year.
Addazio is not the answer for us. Just another media darling.
Addazio is not the answer for us. Just another MIRdia darling.
Rex Ryan
Rex Ryan
Incurable foot fetish, tho. Wouldn't devote enough time to coaching.
i'd take stoops. i think he just needs a change of scenery.
I bet Bob takes an NFL gig for a big raise.
I bet Bob takes an NFL gig for a big raise.
He probably will, but he probably shouldn't.
I heard what Venzy did. Not that bad IMO.
Spill the beans. What did he do and why does everyone try and keep it a secret? :dunno:I heard what Venzy did. Not that bad IMO.
Some things that seem immoral don't after a little time has passed. I blame MTV.
Spill the beans. What did he do and why does everyone try and keep it a secret? :dunno:I heard what Venzy did. Not that bad IMO.
Some things that seem immoral don't after a little time has passed. I blame MTV.
Here's another article with a bunch of confirmed studs praising Venzy's potential as a head coach...http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20141102/PC0312/141109867
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Considering how OU's public perception is faltering, is Stoops on the hot seat next year? I'm thinking it is like Mac's last year. . .the AD will say if he beats UT he is good, but even though he beats UT next year by 30 they still fire him. Then Bill publicly says he has always respected Bob and thinks the firing was unfair. Bob comes back to KState and then /thread.
We don't want Big Game Bob to leave OU. If that should happen, how much do you want to bet they go after BV.Considering how OU's public perception is faltering, is Stoops on the hot seat next year? I'm thinking it is like Mac's last year. . .the AD will say if he beats UT he is good, but even though he beats UT next year by 30 they still fire him. Then Bill publicly says he has always respected Bob and thinks the firing was unfair. Bob comes back to KState and then /thread.
Bleacher Report (I know) bagging on Big Game Bob:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2314056-why-oklahomas-bob-stoops-should-no-longer-be-considered-an-elite-coach?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football
Look, I'm all on team #Venzy4KSU, but I still don't know what Brent did. I want to be sure I have made the right decision here. I've heard he was bangin someone's daughter and/or did a bunch of blow, but never anything concrete. Somebody in the know just rough ridin say what he did or PM me.
sd is bluffing...Thx., Chingon. I knew there was that special something about BV.
check your pms guys. (Well those of you I considered important/reliable enough to pm).
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.memegenerator.io%2Fmeme%2F141231%2Frnmizi.jpg&hash=036733f2dc9558fd36100330b12c6688f8c0998f)sd is bluffing...Thx., Chingon. I knew there was that special something about BV.
check your pms guys. (Well those of you I considered important/reliable enough to pm).
Let's get this thing back on track. Venzy has too many ties to this state/university to mention. He's obviously a big FAMILY man, which is very important to our tuck fanbase/donors. He'd bring the :lynchmob: back to this program, and would most likely recruit major studs. What's the downside to Venzy as LHCBS's successor guys? :dunno:
:buh-bye:
Let's get this thing back on track. Venzy has too many ties to this state/university to mention. He's obviously a big FAMILY man, which is very important to our tuck fanbase/donors. He'd bring the :lynchmob: back to this program, and would most likely recruit major studs. What's the downside to Venzy as LHCBS's successor guys? :dunno:
Going solely off of the posts on here and doing no research on my own, I would say there is zero downside. (except a possible heroine addiction)
(What I heard) was nothing worse than anything in Animal House.
Let's get this thing back on track. Venzy has too many ties to this state/university to mention. He's obviously a big FAMILY man, which is very important to our tuck fanbase/donors. He'd bring the :lynchmob: back to this program, and would most likely recruit major studs. What's the downside to Venzy as LHCBS's successor guys? :dunno:
I knew that, I was just commenting on your alleged knowledge of BV's expocades. :blush:(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.memegenerator.io%2Fmeme%2F141231%2Frnmizi.jpg&hash=036733f2dc9558fd36100330b12c6688f8c0998f)sd is bluffing...Thx., Chingon. I knew there was that special something about BV.
check your pms guys. (Well those of you I considered important/reliable enough to pm).
(What I heard) was nothing worse than anything in Animal House.
get drunk, cheat, and bang some chicks from the girls college?? :Wha:
Redact that crap Pete!
We don't want Big Game Bob to leave OU. If that should happen, how much do you want to bet they go after BV.Considering how OU's public perception is faltering, is Stoops on the hot seat next year? I'm thinking it is like Mac's last year. . .the AD will say if he beats UT he is good, but even though he beats UT next year by 30 they still fire him. Then Bill publicly says he has always respected Bob and thinks the firing was unfair. Bob comes back to KState and then /thread.
Bleacher Report (I know) bagging on Big Game Bob:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2314056-why-oklahomas-bob-stoops-should-no-longer-be-considered-an-elite-coach?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football
They have the money to get what they want, so after the crap show the Stoops put on, that may have opened their eyes.We don't want Big Game Bob to leave OU. If that should happen, how much do you want to bet they go after BV.Considering how OU's public perception is faltering, is Stoops on the hot seat next year? I'm thinking it is like Mac's last year. . .the AD will say if he beats UT he is good, but even though he beats UT next year by 30 they still fire him. Then Bill publicly says he has always respected Bob and thinks the firing was unfair. Bob comes back to KState and then /thread.
Bleacher Report (I know) bagging on Big Game Bob:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2314056-why-oklahomas-bob-stoops-should-no-longer-be-considered-an-elite-coach?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football
what? they hate BV, they ran him out of town because they thought he was a terrible d-coord.
I'd be as happy with him as any other good coordinator in the country.
we'd be guaranteed to whip the living crap out of OU for as long as stoops is there. that counts for something fellas.Aren't we already doing that?
sd is bluffing...can't wait to get on my laptop and get my pm. (This new Tapatalk is too complicated)
check your pms guys. (Well those of you I considered important/reliable enough to pm).
Is he known as one of the best coordinators? I wanna say no but I really have no idea.I'd be as happy with him as any other good coordinator in the country.
I'd be happier w/ BV than most because of his rep as one of the best recruiters in the country before he was known as one of the best coordinators in the country.
I mean, when you have one of the best defenses in the country, many people will assume you are one of the best coordinators.Is he known as one of the best coordinators? I wanna say no but I really have no idea.I'd be as happy with him as any other good coordinator in the country.
I'd be happier w/ BV than most because of his rep as one of the best recruiters in the country before he was known as one of the best coordinators in the country.
I mean, when you have one of the best defenses in the country, many people will assume you are one of the best coordinators.Is he known as one of the best coordinators? I wanna say no but I really have no idea.I'd be as happy with him as any other good coordinator in the country.
I'd be happier w/ BV than most because of his rep as one of the best recruiters in the country before he was known as one of the best coordinators in the country.
Fair enough
Leavitt or Leave It
fwiw I think Leavitt would be a decent enough hire. he's like Pelini with the ability to coach.lol how could you even think that is true? leavitt is so overrated
fwiw I think Leavitt would be a decent enough hire. he's like Pelini with the ability to coach.lol how could you even think that is true? leavitt is so overrated
oh ok. pluto is like Jupiter but bigger. Am I doing it right? Opinions man!fwiw I think Leavitt would be a decent enough hire. he's like Pelini with the ability to coach.lol how could you even think that is true? leavitt is so overrated
it's easy, I just think about it and boom out comes an opinion
Pluto isn't a planet anymore Chings :frown:opinions man
Wonder if Leavitt goes to MichiganWas he still with Hardball at the 49'ers?
Wonder if Leavitt goes to Michigan
oh ok. pluto is like Jupiter but bigger. Am I doing it right? Opinions man!fwiw I think Leavitt would be a decent enough hire. he's like Pelini with the ability to coach.lol how could you even think that is true? leavitt is so overrated
it's easy, I just think about it and boom out comes an opinion
South Florida’s ascension into the top 25 from entry into I-A/FCS was the fastest in NCAA history, surpassing Boise State’s rise by a mere seven weeks. The Bulls achieved another record on September 30, 2007, when they became the fastest program of the modern era to reach the top 10, landing at No. 6 in the AP Poll and No. 9 in the Coaches’ Poll. On October 14, 2007, South Florida received its first ever BCS ranking as the No. 2 team in the nation behind only the Ohio State Buckeyes. That week, the team was also ranked No. 2 in the AP Poll and No. 3 in both the Coaches’ and the Harris Interactive Poll.
Prior to becoming the head coach at South Florida, Leavitt worked under legendary coach LHC Bill Snyder at Kansas State from 1990-95. Leavitt served as the linebackers coach for two seasons before becoming the defensive coordinator. He was instrumental in building a Wildcat defense that improved from 93rd in the nation in 1993 to the number one ranked unit in 1995.
Interesting, Leavitt spotting in San Antonio, Dimel (out of nowhere) said he is staying at KSU as offensive cord today (in KC Star)
Will Leavitt be announced next week? :emawkid:
God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.
The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East. Never won more that 4 conference games in a season. This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA. If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him. Who would? No one else wants him.God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.
I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments. Lay it on me. Why do you not like Leavitt?
The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East. Never won more that 4 conference games in a season. This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA. If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him. Who would? No one else wants him.God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.
I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments. Lay it on me. Why do you not like Leavitt?
The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East. Never won more that 4 conference games in a season. This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA. If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him. Who would? No one else wants him.God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.
I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments. Lay it on me. Why do you not like Leavitt?
I'd rather have Leavitt than Venables.
I'd rather have Leavitt than Venables.
big meh from me. KSU is not a "starting from nothing" program anymore. We don't need someone to "build us up" to 8-4 seasons.The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East. Never won more that 4 conference games in a season. This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA. If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him. Who would? No one else wants him.God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.
I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments. Lay it on me. Why do you not like Leavitt?
But, what about the part where he started that program from nothing? The whole coaching out of trailers stuff? Folks, at the time, talked about his work as being similar to Snyder, did they not? Not saying I agree or disagree, just trying to foster a robust conversation here...
big meh from me. KSU is not a "starting from nothing" program anymore. We don't need someone to "build us up" to 8-4 seasons.The best he has EVER done is tied for 3rd in the Big East. Never won more that 4 conference games in a season. This was in the shitty Big East and C-USA. If he was never at KSU in the 90's we wouldn't even consider him. Who would? No one else wants him.God I hope Leavitt isn't our next coach.
I respect your opinion, yet others have made compelling arguments. Lay it on me. Why do you not like Leavitt?
But, what about the part where he started that program from nothing? The whole coaching out of trailers stuff? Folks, at the time, talked about his work as being similar to Snyder, did they not? Not saying I agree or disagree, just trying to foster a robust conversation here...
We don't have trailers at KSU, we need to think higher than that.
I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt) 8-4 in a non P5 conference.
Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?
I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt) 8-4 in a non P5 conference.
Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?
Understood.
But, consider this...USF football did not exist prior to Leavitt. Like, there was no such thing. In 4 years, he took them from I-AA to D1. He took them to 2 bowl games. Before Snyder, K-State in it's entire history had been to 1 bowl game.
I know, but I honestly don't care that he had to start from scratch. This "story" has been told before. Temple -> Al Golden, UConn -> Randy Edsall, plus many more I don't recall off the top of my head. Getting to mediocrity is not the miracle we should make it out to be. It was KSU's stupidity that made it seem so, not reality.I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt) 8-4 in a non P5 conference.
Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?
Understood.
But, consider this...USF football did not exist prior to Leavitt. Like, there was no such thing. In 4 years, he took them from I-AA to D1. He took them to 2 bowl games. Before Snyder, K-State in it's entire history had been to 1 bowl game.
Leavitt hasn't won half the crap Petersen has. Come on get real. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Petersen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Petersen)I mean they were essentially the same team they were from beginning to end. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt) 8-4 in a non P5 conference.
Why not go scoop up the guy who coaches Southern Miss or whatever other shitty team always finishes 4th in the C-USA?
Understood.
But, consider this...USF football did not exist prior to Leavitt. Like, there was no such thing. In 4 years, he took them from I-AA to D1. He took them to 2 bowl games. Before Snyder, K-State in it's entire history had been to 1 bowl game.
He's basically Chris Petersen, but better, with a tough love mentality.
I mean for fucks sake:
Petersen at BSU
Overall Conference
92–12 57–6
2 x Fiesta Bowls, won the conference 5 times
Leavitt at USF
South Florida:
Overall Conference
95–57 25–26
Tied for third a few years
Lane Kiffin
YeahLane Kiffin
Would he take us?
Lane Kiffinlol.
I hope it's not Leavitt. It's boring and I don't think he'll do well either.
never mind, he isn't young, he's 58 lolAlso a rageaholic. He has like two, three years tops, until he strokes out.
Scott Frost was probably never attainable but he is gone forever now.
He's a rough ridin' shitbrain liar. They didn't fire him because he hit a kid. They canned his ass because he lied about it, interferred with their investigation by trying to get coaches and players to change their stories, and then when they called him on it all he refused to admit he did anything wrong. What a rough ridin' idiot.
He's a rough ridin' shitbrain liar. They didn't fire him because he hit a kid. They canned his ass because he lied about it, interferred with their investigation by trying to get coaches and players to change their stories, and then when they called him on it all he refused to admit he did anything wrong. What a rough ridin' idiot.
Perfectly trashy.
Don't confuse dirty with trashy. Dirty wins. Trashy is just stupid.:lol:
Don't confuse dirty with trashy. Dirty wins. Trashy is just stupid.:lol:
Then Beckman ain't dirty, he's just trashy.
Leavitt was on the staff with Venables, wasn't he? Maybe he could get him as DC.
The contract probably has an out if he get a HC job or comes back to his beloved alma mater.
Well, how are we going to buy that out now?
Well, how are we going to buy that out now?
private money?
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where the hell did this leavitt stuff come from?
where the hell did this leavitt stuff come from?
Jim Leavitt. Teamed with Bob Stoops as co-coordinators for Kansas State. In their final season together in Manhattan, the Wildcats led the nation in total defense. (Side note: The defensive tackle who anchored that unit, Tim Colston, has sadly been unappreciated and should receive lasting recognition from K-State after he was named the Big 12 defensive player of the year.)
Leavitt went on to start a program from scratch at South Florida. The Bulls were successful. Leavitt was drummed out, went on to the NFL and served as Jim Harbaugh’s linebackers coach with the 49ers. That linebacking unit for San Francisco, when healthy, was the best in the business.
Still, what Leavitt built at South Florida was phenomenal. At K-State, he wouldn’t sleep after a loss -- for a whole week. He finds a way. If he gets hired again as a collegiate head coach, I like his potential.
I would much rather have Chris Peterson.......
I would much rather have someone with an innovative offensive mind......
I would much rather have someone who is not already old.......
The more you think about it the more Leavitt makes sense for a variety of reasons
- Currie loves coaches with prior head coaching experience.
Check
- Tucks would love anyone from the BS coaching tree.
Check
- Bill wants to make sure the Dimel/Sean/Hayes gang gets taken care of(Mainly just sean). Leavitt could keep the gang together.
Check
- Sean gets a few more years of tutelage from a different mentor before taking over as HC.
Check
I don't think Leavitt would be a "Great" hire but I do think it would be better than what Currie would do after locking himself in a dallas hotel room for 48 hours.
Leavitt takes over and keeps the gang together....Currie is happy and snyder is happy.
The more you think about it the more Leavitt makes sense for a variety of reasons
- Currie loves coaches with prior head coaching experience.
Check
- Tucks would love anyone from the BS coaching tree.
Check
- Bill wants to make sure the Dimel/Sean/Hayes gang gets taken care of(Mainly just sean). Leavitt could keep the gang together.
Check
- Sean gets a few more years of tutelage from a different mentor before taking over as HC.
Check
As a long-time Leavitt bandwagon member, I was discouraged by Currie's alleged veto of Leavitt's hire by LHCBS. Is this allegation true?
I don't think Leavitt would be a "Great" hire but I do think it would be better than what Currie would do after locking himself in a dallas hotel room for 48 hours.
Leavitt takes over and keeps the gang together....Currie is happy and snyder is happy.
If Leavitt comes in for a couple of years as DC/AHC and then takes over, while keeping the vast majority of the staff, it keeps the momentum going.
The more I think about it, this feels like a Currie hire. I bet he's already realized he made a mistake by not just promoting Brad. There are several examples of non-traditional powers continually hiring from within to sustain success. Also, you don't have to overpay and deal with buyouts like you do with every other coach not associated with your program.
To be honest, the oscar eff up is going to force us to cut into the football coaching budget since we will most likely be paying oscar $2+ million for three years. I bet if we get Leavitt, he'd take the promotion for less than 2 million. If we get Brad for less than 2, we can probably stay relatively budget neutral.
He does not fit the requirements. One of the requirements is to suck total balls.
I don't think Leavitt would be a "Great" hire but I do think it would be better than what Currie would do after locking himself in a dallas hotel room for 48 hours.
Leavitt takes over and keeps the gang together....Currie is happy and snyder is happy.
If Leavitt comes in for a couple of years as DC/AHC and then takes over, while keeping the vast majority of the staff, it keeps the momentum going.
The more I think about it, this feels like a Currie hire. I bet he's already realized he made a mistake by not just promoting Brad. There are several examples of non-traditional powers continually hiring from within to sustain success. Also, you don't have to overpay and deal with buyouts like you do with every other coach not associated with your program.
To be honest, the oscar eff up is going to force us to cut into the football coaching budget since we will most likely be paying oscar $2+ million for three years. I bet if we get Leavitt, he'd take the promotion for less than 2 million. If we get Brad for less than 2, we can probably stay relatively budget neutral.
Great point, had not thought of Leavitt coming in as DC for a couple years before taking over. Would we keep Hayes on as a "Co-Defensive Coordinator" or would he go back to running a tanners? His defenses have been pretty good but Hayes is like 90 bagillion years old.
The more you think about it the more Leavitt makes sense for a variety of reasons
- Currie loves coaches with prior head coaching experience.
Check
- Tucks would love anyone from the BS coaching tree.
Check
- Bill wants to make sure the Dimel/Sean/Hayes gang gets taken care of(Mainly just sean). Leavitt could keep the gang together.
Check
- Sean gets a few more years of tutelage from a different mentor before taking over as HC.
Check
As a long-time Leavitt bandwagon member, I was discouraged by Currie's alleged veto of Leavitt's hire by LHCBS. Is this allegation true?
you guys there really aren't that many good leavitt puns
you guys there really aren't that many good leavitt puns
love it or leavitt
or alternatively
leavitt or leave it
you guys there really aren't that many good leavitt puns
love it or leavitt
or alternatively
leavitt or leave it
never heard that one before spracne, you're really good at this
That sounds all fine and dandy but then what are we going to do with all this private money?Prolly pay bill 500k a year for "consulting" services or something :dunno:
That sounds all fine and dandy but then what are we going to do with all this private money?Prolly pay bill 500k a year for "consulting" services or something :dunno:
Is Iowa ever going to get tired of Kirk?
Bill is staying to get 200 wins guys
Bill is staying to get 200 wins guys
based on our play tonite he plans on dying in office then
Bill is staying to get 200 wins guys
based on our play tonite he plans on dying in office then
In like he went out. Losing. But, with a bunch of nice stuff in the middle.
Hmmmmm, maybe they are bringing him in to be HCIW for just one year and next year is Bill's Derek Jeter year, where at every game the other team gives him elaborate custom cowboy boots, then Leavitt takes over?
Sometimes I think it will be someone out of left field like Dirk Koetter.the rehashing of the Weber hire taking place on the bball section of this blog is pointing very strongly the direction of a retread hire.
Just heard from a colleague that he heard that Coach will announce his retiring in the next few days and that Bielmna from Arkansas will be the replacement.
Quote from: :powerespect:Just heard from a colleague that he heard that Coach will announce his retiring in the next few days and that Bielmna from Arkansas will be the replacement.
I heard Bret was set to take the Nubb job until LHCBS called him up and told him to wait a month and he could have KSU.
Quote from: :powerespect:Just heard from a colleague that he heard that Coach will announce his retiring in the next few days and that Bielmna from Arkansas will be the replacement.
Obviously that would be a homerun. It's about as likely as the "Harbaugh to KU" stuff though.
I don't care much for him as a person (also, he's disgusting to look at), but he's a tremendous football coach. His accomplishments speak for themselves.Obviously that would be a homerun. It's about as likely as the "Harbaugh to KU" stuff though.
I'm not really a Bielma fan, but it's hard to argue that we could get two coaches with better resumes.
I don't care much for him as a person (also, he's disgusting to look at), but he's a tremendous football coach. His accomplishments speak for themselves.Obviously that would be a homerun. It's about as likely as the "Harbaugh to KU" stuff though.
I'm not really a Bielma fan, but it's hard to argue that we could get two coaches with better resumes.
Quote from: :powerespect:Just heard from a colleague that he heard that Coach will announce his retiring in the next few days and that Bielmna from Arkansas will be the replacement.
There are people who believe based on prior posts from said "powerespect" that it's actually Ernie Barrett... and that he gets his info from "the name of the guy on the football building".
Not saying I believe that, just what I'm hearing from somebody who "has reason to believe that's true".
:sdeek:
Harbaugh to KU was a less silly ideaBoth hover around 0% likely.
Harbaugh to KU was a less silly ideaBoth hover around 0% likely.
is this happening?2014 Christmas does it again!
Quote from: :powerespect:Just heard from a colleague that he heard that Coach will announce his retiring in the next few days and that Bielmna from Arkansas will be the replacement.
There are people who believe based on prior posts from said "powerespect" that it's actually Ernie Barrett... and that he gets his info from "the name of the guy on the football building".
Not saying I believe that, just what I'm hearing from somebody who "has reason to believe that's true".
:sdeek:
was interested, and found bret only makes 100k more a year than snyd's. it's the buyout that would never happen, but I guess that's when private money has to be ready (name of the guy on the football building)
Quote from: :powerespect:Just heard from a colleague that he heard that Coach will announce his retiring in the next few days and that Bielmna from Arkansas will be the replacement.
There are people who believe based on prior posts from said "powerespect" that it's actually Ernie Barrett... and that he gets his info from "the name of the guy on the football building".
Not saying I believe that, just what I'm hearing from somebody who "has reason to believe that's true".
:sdeek:
was interested, and found bret only makes 100k more a year than snyd's. it's the buyout that would never happen, but I guess that's when private money has to be ready (name of the guy on the football building)
I know that Bielema's buyout is huge if Arkansas terminates, something like $12 million, but the buyout in his contract is pretty light, all things considered. He only owes Arkansas $2 million if he leaves now.
Harbaugh to KU was a less silly ideaBoth hover around 0% likely.
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They may be ushering Bert out the Arkansas door as we speak.
https://www.facebook.com/HireJohnLSmithPermanently
Hey BERT, you can keep starting rumors that other schools are interested in hiring you all day long, but we still aren't giving you a contract extension.
Congrats on that 7th place finish in the SEC West though, have another donut.
Bielema announcement will be less than 48 hours after Snyder - per my source
Bielema announcement will be less than 48 hours after Snyder - per my source
Bielema announcement will be less than 48 hours after Snyder - per my sourceLet's get a grade on that source.
Bert lost Shannon to Florida and rumors on Woo Pig Sooie boards that Michael Smith and Jim Chaney might also be leaving.
I bet if Bert came here, he would get himself back into his Wisconsin shape.
'grats, katdaddyyup, only a Lane Kiffen hire could be better
I like it better when people troll opposing fan bases. :shakesfist:
If ChiCat has abused my trust, I'll be sad.Hmmmm...
The rest of you yahoos... :shakesfist:
I bet if Bert came here, he would get himself back into his Wisconsin shape.
No GEing, how much smoke are talking about guys?? Like a Swisher amount of smoke or a building burning down??Like a fireplace on the titanic.
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
I was getting excited about a fun off-season and you crap on my hopes.
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Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
What?
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
What?
seems pretty self-explanatory dipshit
have the tv stations in NW Arkansas reported it yet?
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
What?
seems pretty self-explanatory dipshit
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
What?
seems pretty self-explanatory dipshit
What?
He's saying your scoop is old news bruhBret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
What?
seems pretty self-explanatory dipshit
What?
Bret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
What?
seems pretty self-explanatory dipshit
What?
If you have to ask, you'll never know.
If you know, you need only ask.
He's saying your scoop is old news bruhBret is not coming here. Also, Snyder is not retiring this year.
your dumbass source told you that last wednesday, dipshit.
What?
seems pretty self-explanatory dipshit
What?
down here in bayou bengal country the rumor is that lsu's trying to convince arky of a Miles-for-Bert trade straight up but that Bert is torn between lsu and ksu. just what I'm hearing.
I feel like some of you think that calling Bret Bert is born out of some GPC typo.
So, super insider Blackcats has said a few things that I actually believe:
Jim Leavitt was in San Antonio this past weekend
Brent Venables is/was in Manhattan as of yesterday
Tom Hayes wants to retire
Do with that what you will. That's all I've got.
So, super insider Blackcats has said a few things that I actually believe:
Jim Leavitt was in San Antonio this past weekend
Brent Venables is/was in Manhattan as of yesterday
Tom Hayes wants to retire
Do with that what you will. That's all I've got.
So, super insider Blackcats has said a few things that I actually believe:
Jim Leavitt was in San Antonio this past weekend
Brent Venables is/was in Manhattan as of yesterday
Tom Hayes wants to retire
Do with that what you will. That's all I've got.
can you guys see my boner? i'm in CO.
Does Venzy have any reason to be in town? I mean, does he have family here or anything? If not, why else would he be back? :billdance:
Has anybody said whether or not its time to get our dicks out yet, or not?
:impatient:
Has anybody said whether or not its time to get our dicks out yet, or not?
:impatient:
I'm guessing Bill is looking to see if anyone is interested in coming back, and both of those guys are going to take his call because you don't say no to the Godfather.
Whether or not it turns into anything is simply speculation.
However, if Dimel runs the offense and Venzy runs the defense, it kind of makes Sean as HC a little more tolerable of a thought.
also, i don't think venzy shot down the idea of every being a head coach. he just shot down the idea of being a head coach at a crappy school which makes sense because he makes more than the new head coach at ku.
Has anybody said whether or not its time to get our dicks out yet, or not?
:impatient:
I'm guessing Bill is looking to see if anyone is interested in coming back, and both of those guys are going to take his call because you don't say no to the Godfather.
Whether or not it turns into anything is simply speculation.
However, if Dimel runs the offense and Venzy runs the defense, it kind of makes Sean as HC a little more tolerable of a thought.
since Venzy has gone on record saying that he doesn't want to be a HC.
yeah Pan, link plsQuotesince Venzy has gone on record saying that he doesn't want to be a HC.
Pan, I feel like I saw a very similar sitch playout involving Michael and Gob Bluth.
Pan, I feel like I saw a very similar sitch playout involving Michael and Gob Bluth.
Pan, I feel like I saw a very similar sitch playout involving Michael and Gob Bluth.
I don't get a lot of Arrested Development references. I never got past a few episodes. :dunno:
It sounds like old Bert might get bernt by Brent.
So......let me get this straight.......
Yesterday it was all about Bert coming here, per some insiders on here.... :dunno:
Now, it's about Sean as HC, Venzy as DC, Dimel staying on....... :Yuck:
Where is Levitt? :dunno:
Oh, yeah, he was in San Antonio, along with a few million other people, so maybe they all are options as well then too?
Didn't Venzy just sign a contract extension after their bowl win? I thought he was from Kansas, maybe just visiting family after the season and stopped in to say hi to coach?
This thread......... :shakesfist:
Pan, I feel like I saw a very similar sitch playout involving Michael and Gob Bluth.
I don't get a lot of Arrested Development references. I never got past a few episodes. :dunno:
rather than getting mean to Pan, you guys could have just birddanced him. :dunno:
rather than getting mean to Pan, you guys could have just birddanced him. :dunno:
Yeah, I don't care.
uh oh. more info just came in and it looks like k-state might have been using five pound test line and bert just broke it and swam away. :frown:
PIPE isn't necessarily wrong.
I really need something fun/exciting to happen so we can balance out how awful basketball is going to be.
I'll believe and cling to anything at this point.
PIPE isn't necessarily wrong.
So......let me get this straight.......
Yesterday it was all about Bert coming here, per some insiders on here.... :dunno:
Now, it's about Sean as HC, Venzy as DC, Dimel staying on....... :Yuck:
Where is Levitt? :dunno:
Oh, yeah, he was in San Antonio, along with a few million other people, so maybe they all are options as well then too?
Didn't Venzy just sign a contract extension after their bowl win? I thought he was from Kansas, maybe just visiting family after the season and stopped in to say hi to coach?
This thread......... :shakesfist:
So......let me get this straight.......
Yesterday it was all about Bert coming here, per some insiders on here.... :dunno:
Now, it's about Sean as HC, Venzy as DC, Dimel staying on....... :Yuck:
Where is Levitt? :dunno:
Oh, yeah, he was in San Antonio, along with a few million other people, so maybe they all are options as well then too?
Didn't Venzy just sign a contract extension after their bowl win? I thought he was from Kansas, maybe just visiting family after the season and stopped in to say hi to coach?
This thread......... :shakesfist:
To be fair PIPE said like 7 or 8 things so who knows
So......let me get this straight.......
Yesterday it was all about Bert coming here, per some insiders on here.... :dunno:
Now, it's about Sean as HC, Venzy as DC, Dimel staying on....... :Yuck:
Where is Levitt? :dunno:
Oh, yeah, he was in San Antonio, along with a few million other people, so maybe they all are options as well then too?
Didn't Venzy just sign a contract extension after their bowl win? I thought he was from Kansas, maybe just visiting family after the season and stopped in to say hi to coach?
This thread......... :shakesfist:
To be fair PIPE said like 7 or 8 things so who knows
So......let me get this straight.......
Yesterday it was all about Bert coming here, per some insiders on here.... :dunno:
Now, it's about Sean as HC, Venzy as DC, Dimel staying on....... :Yuck:
Where is Levitt? :dunno:
Oh, yeah, he was in San Antonio, along with a few million other people, so maybe they all are options as well then too?
Didn't Venzy just sign a contract extension after their bowl win? I thought he was from Kansas, maybe just visiting family after the season and stopped in to say hi to coach?
This thread......... :shakesfist:
To be fair PIPE said like 7 or 8 things so who knows
About Ven and Leavitt. There's a lot of homage paying being done. People stopping by to pay respect prior to Friday. Their presence could be coincidence...if you believe in such things. Hays seems to want to retire though so...
We played a bowl gameSo......let me get this straight.......
Yesterday it was all about Bert coming here, per some insiders on here.... :dunno:
Now, it's about Sean as HC, Venzy as DC, Dimel staying on....... :Yuck:
Where is Levitt? :dunno:
Oh, yeah, he was in San Antonio, along with a few million other people, so maybe they all are options as well then too?
Didn't Venzy just sign a contract extension after their bowl win? I thought he was from Kansas, maybe just visiting family after the season and stopped in to say hi to coach?
This thread......... :shakesfist:
To be fair PIPE said like 7 or 8 things so who knows
About Ven and Leavitt. There's a lot of homage paying being done. People stopping by to pay respect prior to Friday. Their presence could be coincidence...if you believe in such things. Hays seems to want to retire though so...
Is Friday a significant day? Did I miss something and should know what it is? Not being a dick. I am really asking.
We played a bowl gameSo......let me get this straight.......
Yesterday it was all about Bert coming here, per some insiders on here.... :dunno:
Now, it's about Sean as HC, Venzy as DC, Dimel staying on....... :Yuck:
Where is Levitt? :dunno:
Oh, yeah, he was in San Antonio, along with a few million other people, so maybe they all are options as well then too?
Didn't Venzy just sign a contract extension after their bowl win? I thought he was from Kansas, maybe just visiting family after the season and stopped in to say hi to coach?
This thread......... :shakesfist:
To be fair PIPE said like 7 or 8 things so who knows
About Ven and Leavitt. There's a lot of homage paying being done. People stopping by to pay respect prior to Friday. Their presence could be coincidence...if you believe in such things. Hays seems to want to retire though so...
Is Friday a significant day? Did I miss something and should know what it is? Not being a dick. I am really asking.
Friday is something to do with the College Football Hall of Fame.Ah
Friday is something to do with the College Football Hall of Fame.
Friday is something to do with the College Football Hall of Fame.
Yes. I'm in NC.So, super insider Blackcats has said a few things that I actually believe:
Jim Leavitt was in San Antonio this past weekend
Brent Venables is/was in Manhattan as of yesterday
Tom Hayes wants to retire
Do with that what you will. That's all I've got.
can you guys see my boner? i'm in CO.
Friday is something to do with the College Football Hall of Fame.
So they stopped by to pay homage to the legend before his induction? Makes sense.
Friday is something to do with the College Football Hall of Fame.
So they stopped by to pay homage to the legend before his induction? Makes sense.
Leavitt going to San Antonio makes sense. I'm pretty sure he's out of a job, so maybe he called Bill, Bill told him to come to SA, maybe they had a nice conversation, a potential opening for DC came up, etc.
If Venables is in Manhattan, well, that's weird. Maybe he had a delayed Christmas celebration with his family or something due to bowl season and just decided to stop by.
Yes. I'm in NC.So, super insider Blackcats has said a few things that I actually believe:
Jim Leavitt was in San Antonio this past weekend
Brent Venables is/was in Manhattan as of yesterday
Tom Hayes wants to retire
Do with that what you will. That's all I've got.
can you guys see my boner? i'm in CO.
Gonna win 'em all!
Nothing to see here, just Snyder calling up a few coaches and honoring them with an invitation to come pay homage. Normal King Robert kinda stuff.jim mora will not be attending
Nothing to see here, just Snyder calling up a few coaches and honoring them with an invitation to come pay homage. Normal King Robert kinda stuff.
Nothing to see here, just Snyder calling up a few coaches and honoring them with an invitation to come pay homage. Normal King Robert kinda stuff.
Sean will rise up and behead Venzy publicly. Sharron will think he is going to pardon him and sentence him to the Wall, but nope! she has created a real little monster in her little Sean.
Nothing to see here, just Snyder calling up a few coaches and honoring them with an invitation to come pay homage. Normal King Robert kinda stuff.
The walls of the white keep (cruise boat) were suddenly awash in red...Nothing to see here, just Snyder calling up a few coaches and honoring them with an invitation to come pay homage. Normal King Robert kinda stuff.
Sean will rise up and behead Venzy publicly. Sharron will think he is going to pardon him and sentence him to the Wall, but nope! she has created a real little monster in her little Sean.
Hey, get outta here with your fantasy novel BS, dork.
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
If he was here for a year or something and then was to become HC, then maybe. I don't know.
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
If he was here for a year or something and then was to become HC, then maybe. I don't know.
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
If he was here for a year or something and then was to become HC, then maybe. I don't know.
we can double his salary, tho.. give him the hciw tag or just ac (knowing he'll become hc), and transition snyd's out in a timeline they're comfortable with.
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
If he was here for a year or something and then was to become HC, then maybe. I don't know.
we can double his salary, tho.. give him the hciw tag or just ac (knowing he'll become hc), and transition snyd's out in a timeline they're comfortable with.
Are we so rough ridin' stupid we don't think BV is ready for a HC job? Jesus Christ, people.
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
If he was here for a year or something and then was to become HC, then maybe. I don't know.
we can double his salary, tho.. give him the hciw tag or just ac (knowing he'll become hc), and transition snyd's out in a timeline they're comfortable with.
Are we so rough ridin' stupid we don't think BV is ready for a HC job? Jesus Christ, people.
He is absolutely ready. It just eases the transition and gives Snyder a victory lap.
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
If he was here for a year or something and then was to become HC, then maybe. I don't know.
we can double his salary, tho.. give him the hciw tag or just ac (knowing he'll become hc), and transition snyd's out in a timeline they're comfortable with.
Are we so rough ridin' stupid we don't think BV is ready for a HC job? Jesus Christ, people.
He is absolutely ready. It just eases the transition and gives Snyder a victory lap.
Who does this benefit? Other than Snyder who would get sucked off for a year?
also, I hope you don't mean bring in his defense as a DC, because there is literally 0% chance of that happening ever in a world.
If he was here for a year or something and then was to become HC, then maybe. I don't know.
we can double his salary, tho.. give him the hciw tag or just ac (knowing he'll become hc), and transition snyd's out in a timeline they're comfortable with.
Are we so rough ridin' stupid we don't think BV is ready for a HC job? Jesus Christ, people.
He is absolutely ready. It just eases the transition and gives Snyder a victory lap.
Who does this benefit? Other than Snyder who would get sucked off for a year?
I seriously doubt Snyder wants a victory lap.
I seriously doubt Snyder wants a victory lap.
No, but he wants to make sure his program is solid this time. Knowing who the guy will be after he leaves may make it easier for him to retire.
The only/best thing I could see would be a recruiting issue. Keeping the ones Bill signed. But even then, that is assuming that Venzy wants the same type of kids and that those kids are stupid enough to not understand what is going on.
I honestly think any transition that keeps Bill would be more damaging than good in that it keeps a control freak over the shoulder of a guy who will be making changes to Bill's systems and it will be confusing to staff and players. Just seems 1. unlikely and 2. like there is way more negative than positive in such a hypothetical.
The only/best thing I could see would be a recruiting issue. Keeping the ones Bill signed. But even then, that is assuming that Venzy wants the same type of kids and that those kids are stupid enough to not understand what is going on.
I honestly think any transition that keeps Bill would be more damaging than good in that it keeps a control freak over the shoulder of a guy who will be making changes to Bill's systems and it will be confusing to staff and players. Just seems 1. unlikely and 2. like there is way more negative than positive in such a hypothetical.
kstate attempting to get venzy to greyshirt does sound like something we would try. hmmmmm
kstate attempting to get venzy to greyshirt does sound like something we would try. hmmmmm
kstate attempting to get venzy to greyshirt does sound like something we would try. hmmmmm
kstate attempting to get venzy to greyshirt does sound like something we would try. hmmmmm
yep, we'd even wait to start paying him until after Spring semester
kstate attempting to get venzy to greyshirt does sound like something we would try. hmmmmm
yep, we'd even wait to start paying him until after Spring semester
The only/best thing I could see would be a recruiting issue. Keeping the ones Bill signed. But even then, that is assuming that Venzy wants the same type of kids and that those kids are stupid enough to not understand what is going on.
I honestly think any transition that keeps Bill would be more damaging than good in that it keeps a control freak over the shoulder of a guy who will be making changes to Bill's systems and it will be confusing to staff and players. Just seems 1. unlikely and 2. like there is way more negative than positive in such a hypothetical.
I never said Venables would run the show for the first year. It would be Snyder's show because it's always Snyder's show.
Here are some things I feel we can comfortably say based on observation:
1. Brent Venables has a great job and can be extremely picky about his next move
2. P5 schools, in general, are not hiring assistants to be head coaches any longer, unless it's an internal promotion (i.e. Helfrich, Fisher, etc.). There are a couple of exceptions (Narduzzi @ Pitt, Beaty to Kansas), but those are pretty awful jobs. For the most part, even really good coordinators are being pushed to the mid-major ranks to prove themselves first. Montgomery to Tulsa, Morris to SMU, Herman to Houston, etc. are a few different examples.
So, let's just say that you're Venables, and you're making $800k a year and living life comfortably at Clemson. Maybe you have no interest in making $1.3 million coaching at an AAC school. You're making a lot of money without a lot of pressure.
However, you're not opposed to coaching a good P5 program. Obviously, some black hole job like KU doesn't interest you, and maybe you aren't into coaching at Kentucky, Vanderbilt, North Carolina State, etc. You'd rather just coach at Clemson because it's fun, you're paid like a mid-major HC, and life is good. If some bigger program you have interest in, like UW, comes along and you're into it, that's great, but odds are those guys are going to go after an established mid-major guy or some lateral P5 coach. That's just what the last few years have shown us.
So, LHC Bill Snyder gives you a call. He talks to you for a little bit about how things are going, he congratulates you on a great season and how good your defense looks. He talks about not getting any younger. He says he wants to keep his family together, but he's afraid that his AD won't promote anyone from within. He discusses how he's talked with John about how he wants to leave his program and your (Brent) name came up. He'd like to talk with you about an opportunity to come in for a year and then take over the program so he can retire and go watch his grandkids' baseball games. He'd like to step down now, but it's too late before signing day and he likes the class he's put together. He also doesn't want his staff to have any uncertainty about their future with a lot of the jobs already getting filled across the country.
This isn't some scenario where we're saying he's not ready. He's ready. Everyone knows that he's ready. Snyder probably knows he's ready. It's more along the lines of Snyder wanting to have a gentle exit as opposed to an abrupt one (like last time) and the chaos that ensues from that. He loses a lot of control that way. From Venables' perspective, this may be the path of least resistance to a good P5 job so he doesn't have to spend time at some place like Tulane or South Florida like most of his assistant peers. Especially if there's an understanding that he will be named HC when Snyder steps down after the 2015 season.
No mid-major job, easy transition with no rush to put together a staff, not having to re-recruit current commitments and cobble together a class in less than two months, etc. Just a very simple lateral move with a gig at a winning Big 12 school within 12 months. Hell, we'll even pay you 800k.
It's not a slap in the face. It's actually somewhat practical.
David Ubben?@davidubben·6s6 seconds ago
LHC Bill Snyder says he intends to return to Kansas State in 2015.
This Venzy thing has legs. Source B+.Your mom has legs. Source A+. :lol:
so are we still grey shirting venzy or what?
This Venzy thing has legs. Source B+.omg
The only/best thing I could see would be a recruiting issue. Keeping the ones Bill signed. But even then, that is assuming that Venzy wants the same type of kids and that those kids are stupid enough to not understand what is going on.
I honestly think any transition that keeps Bill would be more damaging than good in that it keeps a control freak over the shoulder of a guy who will be making changes to Bill's systems and it will be confusing to staff and players. Just seems 1. unlikely and 2. like there is way more negative than positive in such a hypothetical.
I never said Venables would run the show for the first year. It would be Snyder's show because it's always Snyder's show.
Here are some things I feel we can comfortably say based on observation:
1. Brent Venables has a great job and can be extremely picky about his next move
2. P5 schools, in general, are not hiring assistants to be head coaches any longer, unless it's an internal promotion (i.e. Helfrich, Fisher, etc.). There are a couple of exceptions (Narduzzi @ Pitt, Beaty to Kansas), but those are pretty awful jobs. For the most part, even really good coordinators are being pushed to the mid-major ranks to prove themselves first. Montgomery to Tulsa, Morris to SMU, Herman to Houston, etc. are a few different examples.
So, let's just say that you're Venables, and you're making $800k a year and living life comfortably at Clemson. Maybe you have no interest in making $1.3 million coaching at an AAC school. You're making a lot of money without a lot of pressure.
However, you're not opposed to coaching a good P5 program. Obviously, some black hole job like KU doesn't interest you, and maybe you aren't into coaching at Kentucky, Vanderbilt, North Carolina State, etc. You'd rather just coach at Clemson because it's fun, you're paid like a mid-major HC, and life is good. If some bigger program you have interest in, like UW, comes along and you're into it, that's great, but odds are those guys are going to go after an established mid-major guy or some lateral P5 coach. That's just what the last few years have shown us.
So, LHC LHC Bill Snyder gives you a call. He talks to you for a little bit about how things are going, he congratulates you on a great season and how good your defense looks. He talks about not getting any younger. He says he wants to keep his family together, but he's afraid that his AD won't promote anyone from within. He discusses how he's talked with John about how he wants to leave his program and your (Brent) name came up. He'd like to talk with you about an opportunity to come in for a year and then take over the program so he can retire and go watch his grandkids' baseball games. He'd like to step down now, but it's too late before signing day and he likes the class he's put together. He also doesn't want his staff to have any uncertainty about their future with a lot of the jobs already getting filled across the country.
This isn't some scenario where we're saying he's not ready. He's ready. Everyone knows that he's ready. Snyder probably knows he's ready. It's more along the lines of Snyder wanting to have a gentle exit as opposed to an abrupt one (like last time) and the chaos that ensues from that. He loses a lot of control that way. From Venables' perspective, this may be the path of least resistance to a good P5 job so he doesn't have to spend time at some place like Tulane or South Florida like most of his assistant peers. Especially if there's an understanding that he will be named HC when Snyder steps down after the 2015 season.
No mid-major job, easy transition with no rush to put together a staff, not having to re-recruit current commitments and cobble together a class in less than two months, etc. Just a very simple lateral move with a gig at a winning Big 12 school within 12 months. Hell, we'll even pay you 800k.
It's not a slap in the face. It's actually somewhat practical.
the most desirable outcome is Bill announcing his retirement early and hiring BV before the Bowl game (assuming there is one) so BV can clean house. 2nd most desirable outcome is Bill retiring now and hiring BV now. greyshirting BV is a ridiculous and unnecessary slap in the face.
the most desirable outcome is Bill announcing his retirement early and hiring BV before the Bowl game (assuming there is one) so BV can clean house. 2nd most desirable outcome is Bill retiring now and hiring BV now. greyshirting BV is a ridiculous and unnecessary slap in the face.
redshirt then?
Do we go for another HOF coach / now president of Youngstown State University?
http://web.ysu.edu/president (http://web.ysu.edu/president)
Venzy just signed a 4 year extension at Clemson.So much for that source. :bawl:
Venzy just signed a 4 year extension at Clemson.That means a lot, IMO.
Venzy just signed a 4 year extension at Clemson.That means a lot, IMO.
Greg Swaim ITK, LOL
I don't think the contract thing means anything fwiw. I also don't buy that he doesn't want to be hc.Venzy just signed a 4 year extension at Clemson.That means a lot, IMO.
No buyout of he takes a head coach job, IIRC. Talked about it on ESPN when they interviewed Dabo about his AC's, and Venzy about his limited desire to be a HC.
He only needs 13 wins to get to 200. It will likely take two years to do that.
LHOFHCBS isn't one for stuff like that, but I'd like to see him get there.
He only needs 13 wins to get to 200. It will likely take two years to do that.
LHOFHCBS isn't one for stuff like that, but I'd like to see him get there.
I'll ask you one question. Do you think Bazooka Joe is going to let Snyder retire before he reaches 200 wins?
201 for all the marbles.
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Dr. P
Look at you guys getting your hopes up for an assistant coach again, it's cute.:jerk:
This Oklahoma State guy was ITK on a lot of realignment issues and tweeted this the other day:
@GSwaim: As #KState's LHC Bill Snyder retires, expect #Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables to be his replacement. #EMAW
Look at you guys getting your hopes up for an assistant coach again, it's cute.:jerk:
Who would you be excited about to replace Snyder?Look at you guys getting your hopes up for an assistant coach again, it's cute.:jerk:
You're right. Let's talk about our favorite Canadian college coaches and CFL coaches as candidates, it's just as likely of a possibility.
Look at you guys getting your hopes up for an assistant coach again, it's cute.:jerk:
You're right. Let's talk about our favorite Canadian college coaches and CFL coaches as candidates, it's just as likely of a possibility.
Wait, I realized you're saying Currie won't hire an assistant. Although you're likely right, I don't think that's a given.
Look at you guys getting your hopes up for an assistant coach again, it's cute.:jerk:
You're right. Let's talk about our favorite Canadian college coaches and CFL coaches as candidates, it's just as likely of a possibility.
It says in the bible that there is a time for all things under heaven, maybe the time for John Currie to hire a non-former HC is now? I'll have to defer to the biblical scholars on this, however. I am merely speculating, and do not have any sources close to the heavenly host. CITE THIS BLOG IF YOU STEAL THIS INFO, SWAIM, YOU rough ridin' HACK!
Look at you guys getting your hopes up for an assistant coach again, it's cute.:jerk:
You're right. Let's talk about our favorite Canadian college coaches and CFL coaches as candidates, it's just as likely of a possibility.
It says in the bible that there is a time for all things under heaven, maybe the time for John Currie to hire a non-former HC is now? I'll have to defer to the biblical scholars on this, however. I am merely speculating, and do not have any sources close to the heavenly host. CITE THIS BLOG IF YOU STEAL THIS INFO, SWAIM, YOU rough ridin' HACK!
Venables is the biggest name he will get, HC or assistant, if this year's hires are any indication.
Curse gE for getting my hopes up. :bawl: Also, Thx. for the boner. ;)Look at you guys getting your hopes up for an assistant coach again, it's cute.:jerk:
You're right. Let's talk about our favorite Canadian college coaches and CFL coaches as candidates, it's just as likely of a possibility.
It says in the bible that there is a time for all things under heaven, maybe the time for John Currie to hire a non-former HC is now? I'll have to defer to the biblical scholars on this, however. I am merely speculating, and do not have any sources close to the heavenly host. CITE THIS BLOG IF YOU STEAL THIS INFO, SWAIM, YOU rough ridin' HACK!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but football is more important than ladies golf and soccer, correct?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but football is more important than ladies golf and soccer, correct?
Yeah, that's the point, idiot.
Well I guess if being a former head coach is a requirement give me butch Davis (he cheats his face off)
0% of the head football coaches he's hired at ksu had previous head coaching experience!
:Wha:
service has nothing to do with it but absolutely do not rough ridin' want that offense :Yuck:
Why in the world would we not go after this guy???Do we go for another HOF coach / now president of Youngstown State University?
http://web.ysu.edu/president (http://web.ysu.edu/president)
We should.
Why in the world would we not go after this guy???Do we go for another HOF coach / now president of Youngstown State University?
http://web.ysu.edu/president (http://web.ysu.edu/president)
We should.
Maybe snyder is waiting to announce because urban Meyer is coming after the NC :dunno:
Maybe snyder is waiting to announce because urban Meyer is coming after the NC :dunno:
Snyd has already said he'll be back
Maybe snyder is waiting to announce because urban Meyer is coming after the NC :dunno:
Snyd has already said he'll be back
You made a dumb, lame joke. Live with it.
I think hiring either Montgomery or Herman, whoever does better at their current head coaching jobs, would be a great way to go (assuming this all goes down in 2+ years).
"I have a strong belief and my preference is Sean," Snyder said. "He knows more about our football program than anyone. He runs our program. I have great confidence in him.
welp
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13303350/bill-snyder-kansas-state-once-retired-wants-son-sean-take-over (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13303350/bill-snyder-kansas-state-once-retired-wants-son-sean-take-over)Quote"I have a strong belief and my preference is Sean," Snyder said. "He knows more about our football program than anyone. He runs our program. I have great confidence in him.
Are there any examples of this type of nepotism being successful, other than the Knights of CoLubbock?
Tongue, cheek, etc.Are there any examples of this type of nepotism being successful, other than the Knights of CoLubbock?
That's an example of nepotism being unsuccessful.
What if he has scheme doctor skills BUT ALSO recruiting skills AND eye for diamonds in the rough? What if?
Sean is not more risky than any other assistantYou mean any of our existing assistants, not other assistant non cfb, right?
I am choosing to believe in Sean. Last time, we didn't listen to Bill and we failed. I vote we trust Bill.WE AGREE AGAIN, PETE!
I mean any assistant we would have a reasonable shot at hiring.Sean is not more risky than any other assistantYou mean any of our existing assistants, not other assistant non cfb, right?
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I mean, you make GPat say no (and he would but you gotta try), then take another couple shots quietly at homerun hires. If they all say no, maybe you give Sean a try.
Sean has kinda that pissed off since gym class chip kelly feel to him.
He could be a really sore loser and channel it into trying hard/scheming/cheating. Would take.
Old people can say the funniest things.And add nothing of value to any conversation.
GrossWelcome to every future KSU football coaching search, probably.
I know a coach on the staff personally. Sean is not well liked within the staff, I don't think we would enjoy the benefit that usually comes from hiring within if we were to promote Sean. It bothers me that Sean has never worked anywhere else, other than a staff position with Prince, he has never worked for anyone other than Bill and has never been more than a special teams coordinator.
I know a coach on the staff personally. Sean is not well liked within the staff, I don't think we would enjoy the benefit that usually comes from hiring within if we were to promote Sean. It bothers me that Sean has never worked anywhere else, other than a staff position with Prince, he has never worked for anyone other than Bill and has never been more than a special teams coordinator.
Umm, where are the player performance scoops?
Sean, in an attempt to live up to the success of his father, would go to great and desperate lengths. Lots of burner cell phones, bag men, et al.
Sean, in an attempt to live up to the success of his father, would go to great and desperate lengths. Lots of burner cell phones, bag men, et al.
Promise?
Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not.
LHC Bill Snyder, upon retirement, prefers son Sean to take reins http://es.pn/1Lv8DMGomg
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#HCSS
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LHC Bill Snyder, upon retirement, prefers son Sean to take reins http://es.pn/1Lv8DMG
-via ESPN http://es.pn/app
#HCSS
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Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not ready for Bill to leave.
I would rather Currie still be here when Bill leaves. If this is bill trying to scare JC into leaving, Sean will def be Bill's replacement.
That said, I guess I would take Sean as a FB coach if it meant the next guy wanted to bring in his own BB coach. Give me Krouse back.
Is a wonder kid at all similar to a wunderkind?Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not ready for Bill to leave.
I would rather Currie still be here when Bill leaves. If this is bill trying to scare JC into leaving, Sean will def be Bill's replacement.
That said, I guess I would take Sean as a FB coach if it meant the next guy wanted to bring in his own BB coach. Give me Krouse back.
The bold is what I meant, should have been clearer. Bill is a money machine making Currie look like a wonder kid. Also if Bill does step down the new hire will follow Currie for life, good or bad. Would not want to be in Currie's shoes when it happens.
Bill needs 13 wins for 200OCDs love round numbers.
Bill needs 13 wins for 200OCDs love round numbers.
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Then turn the light switch on/off 3 times, lock/unlock the office door 3 times, hand his resignation to JC, refuse to shake hands, wash his hands five more times, and drive around the block 7 times before finally heading home.Bill needs 13 wins for 200OCDs love round numbers.
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He'll then wash his hands five times.
What if Sean is known for the next greatest turn around in CFB? Be like Snyder bookends. Up and down.
What if Sean is known for the next greatest turn around in CFB? Be like Snyder bookends. Up and down.
Very Weberesque.
Two names for everyone opposed to HOF Coach LHC Bill Snyder's succession plan to consider:Those two points have no relation. The only one that is relevant is the second. But lots of people have concern about Currie whiffing like he did in basketball.
Ron Prince (what happens when you don't listen to LHC Bill Snyder)
oscar Weber (what happens when you let John Currie hire the coach).
Opposing opinions are welcome, but please come with facts that can surmount the stated...
Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not.
I would rather Currie still be here when Bill leaves. If this is bill trying to scare JC into leaving, Sean will def be Bill's replacement.
That said, I guess I would take Sean as a FB coach if it meant the next guy wanted to bring in his own BB coach. Give me Krouse back.
Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not.
I would rather Currie still be here when Bill leaves. If this is bill trying to scare JC into leaving, Sean will def be Bill's replacement.
That said, I guess I would take Sean as a FB coach if it meant the next guy wanted to bring in his own BB coach. Give me Krouse back.
If Currie leaves, Bill will be our next AD, Sean will be the Football coach and Weber (or any coach for that matter) will never be fired. Snyder will just hire a co-head coach of basketball and work behind the scenes to find oscar a soft landing.
Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not.
I would rather Currie still be here when Bill leaves. If this is bill trying to scare JC into leaving, Sean will def be Bill's replacement.
That said, I guess I would take Sean as a FB coach if it meant the next guy wanted to bring in his own BB coach. Give me Krouse back.
If Currie leaves, Bill will be our next AD, Sean will be the Football coach and Weber (or any coach for that matter) will never be fired. Snyder will just hire a co-head coach of basketball and work behind the scenes to find oscar a soft landing.
I'd like to think the Animal isn't dumb enough to make Bill AD.
Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not.
I would rather Currie still be here when Bill leaves. If this is bill trying to scare JC into leaving, Sean will def be Bill's replacement.
That said, I guess I would take Sean as a FB coach if it meant the next guy wanted to bring in his own BB coach. Give me Krouse back.
If Currie leaves, Bill will be our next AD, Sean will be the Football coach and Weber (or any coach for that matter) will never be fired. Snyder will just hire a co-head coach of basketball and work behind the scenes to find oscar a soft landing.
I'd like to think the Animal isn't dumb enough to make Bill AD.
You're kidding, right? Bill will pull in twice as much in donations than Currie has. And it won't even be a capital campaign for improvements.
Srsly, this could just be a way of Bill pressuring JC to start looking around. Bill could REALLY be ready this time and possibly JC is not.
I would rather Currie still be here when Bill leaves. If this is bill trying to scare JC into leaving, Sean will def be Bill's replacement.
That said, I guess I would take Sean as a FB coach if it meant the next guy wanted to bring in his own BB coach. Give me Krouse back.
If Currie leaves, Bill will be our next AD, Sean will be the Football coach and Weber (or any coach for that matter) will never be fired. Snyder will just hire a co-head coach of basketball and work behind the scenes to find oscar a soft landing.
I'd like to think the Animal isn't dumb enough to make Bill AD.
You're kidding, right? Bill will pull in twice as much in donations than Currie has. And it won't even be a capital campaign for improvements.
Bill is 75 years old, and I think if he wanted to put in the amount of hours it would take to be a better AD than John Currie, that he would rather just keep coaching instead.
The comments on the Exit 313 facebook are just awful. Informal polling, but it appears about 90% of our fanbase wants Sean. If you don't, you are just a bandwagon fan (lol @ thinking it's even possible to bandwagon on K-State)
I know it's not realistic to get Patterson, but I can't help but wonder what it would cost to bring him here.
4 Million a year???
How old is Patterson and how long would it take him to learn the 16 goals to be a wildcat?I agree he won't, but you still make the call
Also, he won't come.
There's a 0% chance Patterson would ever leave TCU for KSU.Saban is zero. Patterson is more like 1%.
Pretty good interview and article on ESPN today:
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/101363/kansas-state-faces-critical-crossroads-when-bill-snyder-finally-retires
Pretty good interview and article on ESPN today:
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/101363/kansas-state-faces-critical-crossroads-when-bill-snyder-finally-retires
There's a 0% chance Patterson would ever leave TCU for KSU.
LHC Bill Snyder will only be alive and functional such that we can suck football knowledge out of his brain for so long. He will not allow us that access to his brain if Sean is not the successor. There is no other choice. Our hands are tied.
Sean could be a really good coach.
We tried before to replace him with people that failed miserably. The current AD has failed miserably at major-sport-coach-hiring.
Suggestions?
You give the keys to venzy....and put concrete blocks around seans feet and drop him in tuttle.
You give the keys to venzy....and put concrete blocks around seans feet and drop him in tuttle.
I want Venzy. I'm generally opposed to murder.
So, yeah.
What about manslaughter? Or negligent homicide?You give the keys to venzy....and put concrete blocks around seans feet and drop him in tuttle.
I want Venzy. I'm generally opposed to murder.
So, yeah.
I'm also opposed to murder. Murder would hurt the image of our program.
What about manslaughter? Or negligent homicide?You give the keys to venzy....and put concrete blocks around seans feet and drop him in tuttle.
I want Venzy. I'm generally opposed to murder.
So, yeah.
I'm also opposed to murder. Murder would hurt the image of our program.
If Sean had an OC or DC next to his name I would be much less leery of hiring him. Us hiring a special teams coach to be our next HC is like KU hiring a WR coach...
I know LHOFCOB is looking out for #family and taking care of his own, but this would be detrimental to KSU. Sean had the chance to move up and prove himself elsewhere, then come back to the happiest place on earth, but he stayed home under dads wing. If Sean had done anything to prove he wouldn't be a complete stab in the dark at coaching, I'd be more willing to side with Bill, but I just can't do it man. The odds for Sean being Bill 2.0 get far outweighed by the risk or hiring him.
#venzy/GPorbust
Why would LHC Bill Snyder inflict his family with something like KU has inflicted their fan base with? He knows what he is doing.
Venables has been unable to earn HC recommendations from Stoops for some reason for a LONG time and has been rejected by ALL of COLLEGE FOOTBALL for HC consideration for a LONG time. He's cooked as a head coach.
In Bill We Trust!
If Sean had an OC or DC next to his name I would be much less leery of hiring him. Us hiring a special teams coach to be our next HC is like KU hiring a WR coach...
I know LHOFCOB is looking out for #family and taking care of his own, but this would be detrimental to KSU. Sean had the chance to move up and prove himself elsewhere, then come back to the happiest place on earth, but he stayed home under dads wing. If Sean had done anything to prove he wouldn't be a complete stab in the dark at coaching, I'd be more willing to side with Bill, but I just can't do it man. The odds for Sean being Bill 2.0 get far outweighed by the risk or hiring him.
#venzy/GPorbust
If Sean had an OC or DC next to his name I would be much less leery of hiring him. Us hiring a special teams coach to be our next HC is like KU hiring a WR coach...
I know LHOFCOB is looking out for #family and taking care of his own, but this would be detrimental to KSU. Sean had the chance to move up and prove himself elsewhere, then come back to the happiest place on earth, but he stayed home under dads wing. If Sean had done anything to prove he wouldn't be a complete stab in the dark at coaching, I'd be more willing to side with Bill, but I just can't do it man. The odds for Sean being Bill 2.0 get far outweighed by the risk or hiring him.
#venzy/GPorbust
Wasn't there rumor that Sean isn't very interested in coaching once Bill retires? If so, would explain him not wanting to leave and gain experience
it's just like the time Bill tried making Sean eat his carrots. He's only eating carrots because you're watching him Bill, he doesn't like the carrots though, deal with it.Are you sure it was carrots? I have heard from a A++++ source that it was peas. @Puni
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/636967802214084608
Someone on Twitter mentioned PJ Fleck.
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/636967802214084608
DON'T LET CURRIE KNOW THAT BECKMAN IS AVAILABLE!!!
Some buzz about Mack spending lots of time this summer "visiting Bill" when Bill wasn't even there and instead just watched practice. Stay tuned
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/636967802214084608
Sounds like those stem cell treatments are working...
So in a couple years our head coaches for bball and football will be oscar and Sean. I can't really think of a worse possible combo.
So in a couple years our head coaches for bball and football will be oscar and Sean. I can't really think of a worse possible combo.
We need to get currie in contact w skip holtz. He had better ppl at most positions on offense today and not even part of a P5.
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We need to get currie in contact w skip holtz. He had better ppl at most positions on offense today and not even part of a P5.
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We need to get currie in contact w skip holtz. He had better ppl at most positions on offense today and not even part of a P5.
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Yea, if I hear the name Skip Holtz connected with the replacement search I will break things
Yea, if I hear the name Skip Holtz connected with the replacement search I will break things
Mine was a hot take with no Stat reaearch. the stain of isu put on him by Stan is enough for me to admit I was wrong.
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Chip Kelly come home.This. His days in Philly are numbered. He'd look great on the sidelines of BSFS.
Chip Kelly come home.This. His days in Philly are numbered. He'd look great on the sidelines of BSFS.
Chip Kelly come home.This. His days in Philly are numbered. He'd look great on the sidelines of BSFS.
He knows how to recruit Wichita! We have a nice shiny office waiting for him, will feel just like Oregon except nicer! Also, we're a family! Come home Chip.
Head coaching experience = check
Fired from previous job = hopefully!
Right in Currie's wheelhouse!
Head coaching experience = check
Fired from previous job = hopefully!
Right in Currie's wheelhouse!
Get Sproles on the phone to start telling Chip how great manhattan is.
So in a couple years our head coaches for bball and football will be oscar and Sean. I can't really think of a worse possible combo.
You are delusional.
I'm kind of thinking it'll be Bret Bielema.
I'm kind of thinking it'll be Bret Bielema.
Can't wait to have Brad Stevens and Chip Kelly both serving up ass kickings to the rest of the nation. YOU ALL ARE ON NOTICE!
Brad doesn't get out of bed for less than a decade.
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Can't wait to have Brad Stevens and Chip Kelly both serving up ass kickings to the rest of the nation. YOU ALL ARE ON NOTICE!
But what skinben didnt metion is that his first name is mike.
Tom Herman
Tom Herman
Scott Frost would be fantastic
Scott Frost would be fantastic
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.
We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.
We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.
Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.
We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.
Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?
They can poach P5 coaches like they did with Sark. We can't do that. Guys that they would be interested in below that tier (someone like McElwein last year, possibly Tom Herman this year) would be content holding out for a better job than KSU if USC wasn't available. I could be wrong though. Things are always changing.
USCe would likely have more overlap in their candidate pool with ours.
I honestly don't see us getting a P5 coach from a program any better than ours.
If Currie wins the battle of attrition he's going to come right out of the gate blasting $2.9 to $3.5 million a year at a Tom Herman type.
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.
We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.
Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?
They can poach P5 coaches like they did with Sark. We can't do that. Guys that they would be interested in below that tier (someone like McElwein last year, possibly Tom Herman this year) would be content holding out for a better job than KSU if USC wasn't available. I could be wrong though. Things are always changing.
USCe would likely have more overlap in their candidate pool with ours.
Sark is a horrible example because he was formally an assistant there and no one else even wanted to take him away from Washington, he was a less accomplished Mike Gundy.
KSU is absolutely a place that Herman would be interested in, just as McElwein would have been if a job like Florida wasn't available. I can't think of a single power 5 coach right now that USC boosters would want that isn't either an alum where he is or someone who isn't tied to a region that isn't southern California. Sonny Dikes would probably go but I don't think USC people would want him and his style. Kyle Wittingham?
Fuente has the added bonus of being turned down by KU.
I was really hoping that Bill would retire this season because I thought we would be the best job open with a very good group of canidates but in the last couple of weeks it seems as if right now we'll be the third best job, best case scenario as USC will definitely be open and USCe seems like a firm possibility.
We wouldn't be competing for coaches that USC will be considering.
Who do you think they could get who would be currently unavailable to us if we weren't conducting simultaneous searches?
They can poach P5 coaches like they did with Sark. We can't do that. Guys that they would be interested in below that tier (someone like McElwein last year, possibly Tom Herman this year) would be content holding out for a better job than KSU if USC wasn't available. I could be wrong though. Things are always changing.
USCe would likely have more overlap in their candidate pool with ours.
Sark is a horrible example because he was formally an assistant there and no one else even wanted to take him away from Washington, he was a less accomplished Mike Gundy.
KSU is absolutely a place that Herman would be interested in, just as McElwein would have been if a job like Florida wasn't available. I can't think of a single power 5 coach right now that USC boosters would want that isn't either an alum where he is or someone who isn't tied to a region that isn't southern California. Sonny Dikes would probably go but I don't think USC people would want him and his style. Kyle Wittingham?
Possibly a guy like Dan Mullen, too. (USC is tricky because it's such a unique/isolated region without many natural candidates).
Re: Herman and McElwein, I'm not entirely sure. It may make more sense to cash in after year one or two at a smaller school than hold out for a better job. But like zack said, when USC is open, dominoes will fall all over the place and who knows what jobs will be open.
Mullen is a good one, he hasn't been in the SEC as long as I thought he has. Although Mississippi State to USC isn't the huge jump it appears to. The USC job is more attractive if they fire Haden and hire a new AD before they hire a coach. The next guy will be their 5th coach in 3 seasons. Their last three hires; Carroll, Kiffin, and Sark don't scream elite program who can get whomever they want. Their last two AD's have been pretty awful.
The other USC job is about to be open as well. Spurrier retiring
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Fact: Tom Herman is a member of Mensa
Fact: Tom Herman is a member of MensaScary smart
Those rough ridin' Germans make great coaches!!!Fact: Tom Herman is a member of MensaScary smart
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mensa? sounds a little flashy to meWould rather a less intelligent Midwesterner who is willing to work hard and get a little better each day. Maybe some one from Centralia or something?
mensa? sounds a little flashy to meSounds "ethnic" to me...probably not a good fit.
Fact: Tom Herman is a member of Mensa
Firmly team ck7 with arthur as d co and k lock running special teamsThis. A million times this.
Dre cruitin
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/653968345679679488
its a game of recruiting.
I swear, Wallace's sole purpose in this life, is for me to hate everything he does/says.https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/653968345679679488
its a game of recruiting.
Also.
https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/653968475107385344
Firmly team ck7 with arthur as d co and k lock running special teamsYou are kidding, I hope. We will probably take a step back when LHC Bill Snyder retires. Why would we go with a bunch of young, inexperienced folks take over? Please tell me you are kidding!
Dre cruitin
Firmly team ck7 with arthur as d co and k lock running special teamsYou are kidding, I hope. We will probably take a step back when LHC LHC Bill Snyder retires. Why would we go with a bunch of young, inexperienced folks take over? Please tell me you are kidding!
Dre cruitin
I swear, Wallace's sole purpose in this life, is for me to hate everything he does/says.https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/653968345679679488
its a game of recruiting.
Also.
https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/653968475107385344
Firmly team ck7 with arthur as d co and k lock running special teamsYou are kidding, I hope. We will probably take a step back when LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder retires. Why would we go with a bunch of young, inexperienced folks take over? Please tell me you are kidding!
Dre cruitin
Because we see how the bball hire went
I swear, Wallace's sole purpose in this life, is for me to hate everything he does/says.https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/653968345679679488
its a game of recruiting.
Also.
https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/653968475107385344
What do you hate about that tweet?
I swear, Wallace's sole purpose in this life, is for me to hate everything he does/says.https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/653968345679679488
its a game of recruiting.
Also.
https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/653968475107385344
What do you hate about that tweet?
i think it's cool that gpc's ryan wallace got a 1-1 with spurrier
you're probably right, he should read about how reporters give each other credit for the work that they do
Bill's recruiting dropped us at least one spot.
I'd put us in tier 4 because of our #family atmosphere, but it's interesting to hear an outside perspective.
Good points on OSU. I've quite honestly been surprised how differently our programs are treated in the media despite having similar success (minus bowl records) over the past several years. Facilities seem similar as well, but theirs are all in Stillwater. :barf:
There's a whole lot to unpack and dislike about Duffy's soundbyte analysis, but in my opinion, Bill's reliance on two-start talent is Bill's preference more than anything inherent about Kansas State.
If Snyder wanted to change his message and take a different approach in recruiting kids, we'd see something closer to what we saw in 1999-2003, when we were getting Top 20-30 classes. I think the 2001 or 2002 class was ranked something like #14 or something ridiculous like that.
However, once he made that turn, he started hating dealing with the kids he was recruiting, so he burnt out and left. Then he came back and started recruiting a bunch of two-star/three-star kids out of the gate and started recruiting grayshirts instead of JUCO's.
Bill likes the two-star kids because they do what he says without questioning him. It allows him to do whatever he wants because what's Sean Newlan and Kyle Klein going to do about it?
seriously, the uniforms are a factor in perception
There's a whole lot to unpack and dislike about Duffy's soundbyte analysis, but in my opinion, Bill's reliance on two-start talent is Bill's preference more than anything inherent about Kansas State.
If Snyder wanted to change his message and take a different approach in recruiting kids, we'd see something closer to what we saw in 1999-2003, when we were getting Top 20-30 classes. I think the 2001 or 2002 class was ranked something like #14 or something ridiculous like that.
However, once he made that turn, he started hating dealing with the kids he was recruiting, so he burnt out and left. Then he came back and started recruiting a bunch of two-star/three-star kids out of the gate and started recruiting grayshirts instead of JUCO's.
Bill likes the two-star kids because they do what he says without questioning him. It allows him to do whatever he wants because what's Sean Newlan and Kyle Klein going to do about it?
It's really is time to BID.
Snyder is just going through the motions.
eff it. Mike Leach. Whatever it takes.Leach looking very kstate0 right now, has a bunch of 5-hearts out there beating a #8 P5 team.
John Currie has been waiting his entire life for this moment.
John Currie has been waiting his entire life for this moment.
I like to imagine him getting pumped up awkwardly head bopping while listening to "Lose Yourself" on repeat.
Coach O is like BITB at getting interim HC jobs after midseason firingsEt tu Brute?
They are going to go after Tom Herman with an unreal amount of money.
David shaw is too good for the sec
They are going to go after Tom Herman with an unreal amount of money.
Spurrier mentioned on Gameday that the SEC would come calling for David Shaw. I wonder if he knows something.
I don't want old ass Les.
Les Miles is a weirdo. He's not getting a tv gig.
Art Briles.
Edit: ^^^who LSU will hire.
Art Briles.
Edit: ^^^who LSU will hire.
Lol no
I don't want old ass Les.
They are going to go after Tom Herman with an unreal amount of money.
Spurrier mentioned on Gameday that the SEC would come calling for David Shaw. I wonder if he knows something.
Petrino
So can we get a running list of all the dumbasses that wouldn't want Les?
Art Briles.
Edit: ^^^who LSU will hire.
Lol no
Reports are that they have reached out to him already to gauge interest.
I bet we get the NDSU coach, or his top assistant.
Obviously this guy reads gELulz
http://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/les-miles-kansas-state-rumors-unlikely/
Sorry, Cats fans … the Purple Wizard has certainly been a blessing for the university, but he soon may end up being a curse.
I could see Les going to Kentucky just for the chance to stomp LSU/Bama in the SEC championship every year. Plus, he seems to fit in that conference very well. LSU has to go for Herman, slight chance of swooping Kiffin out from under Saban.Lane would crawl across hot coals from Alabama to Louisiana if offered that HC job.
Didn't the previous NDSU coach go somewhere like Wyoming and was never heard from again? Tough to tell who is really responsible for that program being able to do what they do.
emawmason what are your thoughts on Wildcat Salute!?
Guys. Coach Kill was brought in as interm head coach in waiting. Currie doesn't even want him to have that title.:nono:
I'm sure it's already in the thread, but I just learned that PJ coached under Jerry Kill and considers him a mentor. :crossfingers:
That makes zero sense.
James Franklin :dunno:
Yeah hard pass. He's getting fired this year which probably moves him to the top of Curries list. You know how AD's are supposed to have a list of candidates should a coach need replaced immediately. How lol'y do you think Currie's list is?James Franklin :dunno:
No thanks
Yeah hard pass. He's getting fired this year which probably moves him to the top of Curries list. You know how AD's are supposed to have a list of candidates should a coach need replaced immediately. How lol'y do you think Currie's list is?James Franklin :dunno:
No thanks
Yeah hard pass. He's getting fired this year which probably moves him to the top of Curries list. You know how AD's are supposed to have a list of candidates should a coach need replaced immediately. How lol'y do you think Currie's list is?James Franklin :dunno:
No thanks
I would like to think Currie learned a very hard and painful lesson with the oscar Weber hiring. I mean, he is literally reduced begging for a job after being the AD of Titletown and building more in facilities than just about any other Big 12 program in a broke dick state like Kansas. That hiring has made him toxic, no one will take him...
Venables will get hired next season by someone else because we are propping up Bill's friends to make millions as he tries to Nortard his way to 200.
Is BV a choice for LSU? After Texas takes Houston's coach where will they look? Jimbo Fisher is mentioned, but would they even consider BV?
He doesn't have the ball(s).Venables will get hired next season by someone else because we are propping up Bill's friends to make millions as he tries to Nortard his way to 200.
Currie just needs to say that he will not be resigning the contracts for Del and Dana. If Bill wants to come back, he needs new blood.
Bill will fall on his sword, again. And most fans will be fine with that power play.
Orgeron sucked crap at Ole Misshe is 7-2 since then, look not going to be that guy but we may have limited options.
Bill will stay as long as he chooses to. Currie does not have the power to change that.And honestly, Snyder's earned it.
Bill will stay as long as he chooses to. Currie does not have the power to change that.And honestly, Snyder's earned it.
If the Cats were to end '16 with a high ceiling for '17, I think Bill gets a 1 year extension. If the Cats are still this middling 5 - 7 win team without a QB, Bill's gone and bought out for 2017. John doesn't owe Bill the 200 win thing and the fans need to deal with it. That's on Bill and the shitfuck staff he keeps.
Orgeron sucked crap at Ole Misshe is 7-2 since then, look not going to be that guy but we may have limited options.
Orgeron sucked crap at Ole Miss
venzy
fleck
orgeron
levitt
les
sean
oh is that right, sorry for posting factsOrgeron sucked crap at Ole Misshe is 7-2 since then, look not going to be that guy but we may have limited options.
Stop posting, you're not good
Is BV a choice for LSU? After Texas takes Houston's coach where will they look? Jimbo Fisher is mentioned, but would they even consider BV?
LSU thinks they deserve a $5 million a year guy.
I think you'd see Briles there before Venables.
Venables has said he doesn't want a G5 job. I mean, he could do Houston, but I don't think he'd be that interested. That job would be great for a guy like Fleck if he wants to skip the low-to-mid P5 gig.
Is BV a choice for LSU? After Texas takes Houston's coach where will they look? Jimbo Fisher is mentioned, but would they even consider BV?
LSU thinks they deserve a $5 million a year guy.
I think you'd see Briles there before Venables.
Venables has said he doesn't want a G5 job. I mean, he could do Houston, but I don't think he'd be that interested. That job would be great for a guy like Fleck if he wants to skip the low-to-mid P5 gig.
I wouldn't dismiss Venables or someone like him. Remember the money issues that the Louisiana universities are having.
Bill will stay as long as he chooses to. Currie does not have the power to change that.And honestly, Snyder's earned it.
He hasn't earned 3 end-of-life dog crap years to crawl to a random round number.
That's not a knock on Bill. No one earns that in any industry.
It just dawned on me that Dave Clawson is now 4-1 at Wake Forest this year.
Dear God. That is the kind of guy Currie would nab in a heartbeat.
Venables makes too much sense. He must have been offered P5 jobs last year that he turned down. He's a youngish
Unless he wants to stay DC under Dabo his entire life (which, maybe. who knows), then he's coming to K-State.
Venables makes tons of sense. I have zero faith in Currie to get it done.
And no, the state of Louisiana's academic budget woes won't impact their ability to make a $5M/year deal with someone who's a waaay splashier hire than BV. Venzy won't even get a sniff from LSU.
I'll be upset if Venables isn't the first choice.
There are others I'd be alright with, but he'll always be our Kliff, and we have to see how it would work out.
I wasn't really paying attention to the cats when Snyder retired the first time, but was there a big cry for a known coach then? Or were the fans just shocked when the AD shafted us with Prince?
Trying to gauge how excited I should get about getting a good coach. I know the Currie shitfest in oscar, so I'm bracing for another crap hire.
I wasn't really paying attention to the cats when Snyder retired the first time, but was there a big cry for a known coach then? Or were the fans just shocked when the AD shafted us with Prince?
Trying to gauge how excited I should get about getting a good coach. I know the Currie shitfest in oscar, so I'm bracing for another crap hire.
You should not get excited.
I wasn't really paying attention to the cats when Snyder retired the first time, but was there a big cry for a known coach then? Or were the fans just shocked when the AD shafted us with Prince?Snyds wanted Leavitt - he said no; the amazing looking & good smelling fans wanted Venz but Wefald fell for Prince's binder and Snyder blessed it because Sean kept his job. Moral of the story = don't get your hopes up
Trying to gauge how excited I should get about getting a good coach. I know the Currie shitfest in oscar, so I'm bracing for another crap hire.
I wasn't really paying attention to the cats when Snyder retired the first time, but was there a big cry for a known coach then? Or were the fans just shocked when the AD shafted us with Prince?Snyds wanted Leavitt - he said no; the amazing looking & good smelling fans wanted Venz but Wefald fell for Prince's binder and Snyder blessed it because Sean kept his job. Moral of the story = don't get your hopes up
Trying to gauge how excited I should get about getting a good coach. I know the Currie shitfest in oscar, so I'm bracing for another crap hire.
idk it wouldn't end well but I do know it would be amazingly funI wasn't really paying attention to the cats when Snyder retired the first time, but was there a big cry for a known coach then? Or were the fans just shocked when the AD shafted us with Prince?Snyds wanted Leavitt - he said no; the amazing looking & good smelling fans wanted Venz but Wefald fell for Prince's binder and Snyder blessed it because Sean kept his job. Moral of the story = don't get your hopes up
Trying to gauge how excited I should get about getting a good coach. I know the Currie shitfest in oscar, so I'm bracing for another crap hire.
You didn't really want Venables in 2005 did you? That wouldn't have ended well.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/brent-venables-is-overqualified-so-why-isnt-clemsons-defensive-boss-a-head-coach/
Venzy and Underwood are both no-brainer hires where Currie doesn't even have to feel backlash if they both ended up sucking. He's going to end up screwing up both hires though, I have 0 confidence he hires anything other than a fired dipcrap football coach
I don't think Brad would come here this year. He's already got a better job than us.
Fan wise, it sure seems to be.
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http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/brent-venables-is-overqualified-so-why-isnt-clemsons-defensive-boss-a-head-coach/"High profile program" :cool:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/brent-venables-is-overqualified-so-why-isnt-clemsons-defensive-boss-a-head-coach/"High profile program" :cool:
If you surround yourself with turds, you're headed towards Turdville. If you surround yourself with elite people, you're headed towards elite things."
Fan wise, it sure seems to be.
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What? Have you ever been to a game at OSU? Even if they're good that arena is half full, at best.
Well, a two second google search found it.Quote from: FleckIf you surround yourself with turds, you're headed towards Turdville. If you surround yourself with elite people, you're headed towards elite things."
http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2016/10/pj_fleck_uses_colorful_analogy.html (http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2016/10/pj_fleck_uses_colorful_analogy.html)
:lol: I was there and 1/3 the crowd was KSU. gE.com flag made a lap of the place that day.Fan wise, it sure seems to be.
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What? Have you ever been to a game at OSU? Even if they're good that arena is half full, at best.
I went to the game where we backed into a 1/3 Titletown at OSU and it was pretty full. :dunno: Maybe they really support their seniors?
:lol: I was there and 1/3 the crowd was KSU. gE.com flag made a lap of the place that day.Fan wise, it sure seems to be.
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What? Have you ever been to a game at OSU? Even if they're good that arena is half full, at best.
I went to the game where we backed into a 1/3 Titletown at OSU and it was pretty full. :dunno: Maybe they really support their seniors?
Nicname
I was just wondering if it's true that Snyder is leaving. :dunno:
I was just wondering if it's true that Snyder is leaving. :dunno:
Eventually.
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I was just wondering if it's true that Snyder is leaving. :dunno:
Eventually.
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I agree.
This is the stuff dreams are made of... I would completely change my opinion on John Currie if this improbable scenario ever occured.Venzy and Underwood are both no-brainer hires where Currie doesn't even have to feel backlash if they both ended up sucking. He's going to end up screwing up both hires though, I have 0 confidence he hires anything other than a fired dipcrap football coach
Man, if oscar fails super hard this year and Bill retires, how excited would I get if Venzy and Underwood both got picked up this year?
It would almost be as exciting as a Titletown.
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If OU cans Bobby this offseason (which seems more likely with every passing week). Who would be better for KSU? Bobby or Venzy?
why not both?If OU cans Bobby this offseason (which seems more likely with every passing week). Who would be better for KSU? Bobby or Venzy?
I'd rather have Venzy. Bobby is getting pretty old, so there is less upside. Either would be amazing, though.
why not both?If OU cans Bobby this offseason (which seems more likely with every passing week). Who would be better for KSU? Bobby or Venzy?
I'd rather have Venzy. Bobby is getting pretty old, so there is less upside. Either would be amazing, though.
Guys, how could you not NOT want this back on the sidelines at BS#FS?
Personally if I were BV why would I leave and take a head coaching job anywhere? He's making almost 1.5M and doesn't have all of the responsibility a HC does
Personally if I were BV why would I leave and take a head coaching job anywhere? He's making almost 1.5M and doesn't have all of the responsibility a HC doesFor the same reason every high level, youngish, successful coordinator leaves for a HC position -- more money and a legacy.
Wouldn't even have to change his shirt.
Also, he's still got it. He would have taken that back for 6.
seems like good reasons to be as picky as he wants to beI think he wants to be k-state's head coach. Even without his ties to the region/k-state in particular, a program like k-state's is about the right fit for him at this juncture of his career (given his complete lack of head coaching experience).
seems like good reasons to be as picky as he wants to beI think he wants to be k-state's head coach. Even without his ties to the region/k-state in particular, a program like k-state's is about the right fit for him at this juncture of his career (given his complete lack of head coaching experience).
LSU, for example, is not going to be ringing him.
IDK. I mean, what if he just doesn't want to live in the middle of KS? Seems like a plausible #3.Sure. OTOH, his and his wife's families both live here. I would think the geography of K-State/MHK is more likely a positive than a negative for him.
Those shoes are hot. The $1.5 million is chump change compared to what he'll get when he eventually gets a head coaching job.
Barry Odom got $2.75 mil from broke ass Mizzou. Kirby Smart got $3.75 mil from Georgia and Florida gave Jim McElwain $4.25 million.
seems like good reasons to be as picky as he wants to beI think he wants to be k-state's head coach. Even without his ties to the region/k-state in particular, a program like k-state's is about the right fit for him at this juncture of his career (given his complete lack of head coaching experience).
LSU, for example, is not going to be ringing him.
Yeah, I'd love to see what job is going to be open that he's in play for that's appreciably better than the K-State job. If he doesn't come here it likely won't be because he gets a better job.
LSU is going to be looking at an as offensive coach, they'll hire Jeff Brohm before they interview Brent.
IDK. I mean, what if he just doesn't want to live in the middle of KS? Seems like a plausible #3.Sure. OTOH, his and his wife's families both live here. I would think the geography of K-State/MHK is more likely a positive than a negative for him.
I seriously doubt Venables would say no to the BEST GAMEDAY EXPERIENCE and #1 COLLEGE TOWN.Best Big 12 Pregame Tradition*
guys. what are we doing in here?
:lol:guys. what are we doing in here?
Circle jerk. You're either with us or against us.
guys. what are we doing in here?
Just a thought; could the uncertainty of the conference effect the potential future head coaching hire here?Yes.
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Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
:Yuck: I think I'd rather have Sean.
Pretty sure that whole seizure thing prevents kill from coaching.nah it's all good, he has that Hillary tech anti-seizure device. Expect to see Kill calling plays in a pantsuit near you.
That drunk also said that Texas wants to kill the Big 12.
That drunk also said that Texas wants to kill the Big 12.
he's a sandwich throw away from turning his life around. just pick up the sandwich fitz.
You can't throw a sandwich that's already been eaten.
Lol at the idea of Fitz throwing a perfectly good sandwich and not eating it.Sorry if discussed elsewhere but has Fitz left the reservation?
Again lol at Fitz throwing it. He got that far you really think he's not just gonna unbutton the bowling shirt and finish that thing off?
rivals is dying. he probably doesnt give a eff anymoreLol at the idea of Fitz throwing a perfectly good sandwich and not eating it.Sorry if discussed elsewhere but has Fitz left the reservation?
I was listening to him on Soren yesterday and he seemed to be openly questioning decisions made by LHOFHCBS.
rivals is dying. he probably doesnt give a eff anymoreLol at the idea of Fitz throwing a perfectly good sandwich and not eating it.Sorry if discussed elsewhere but has Fitz left the reservation?
I was listening to him on Soren yesterday and he seemed to be openly questioning decisions made by LHOFHCBS.
as a whole? yes it is. rivals, scout ect ect are all dinosaurs now. they have tried re branding but 247 and espn are the big players for cfb/recruiting sites. yahoo cant really competerivals is dying. he probably doesnt give a eff anymoreLol at the idea of Fitz throwing a perfectly good sandwich and not eating it.Sorry if discussed elsewhere but has Fitz left the reservation?
I was listening to him on Soren yesterday and he seemed to be openly questioning decisions made by LHOFHCBS.
Is it? Haven't been over there in years. I got banned, then there was no free board (IIRC), then they took he ticket exchange down (I think). Anyway, post count built up for me and post count = credibility.
rivals is dying. he probably doesnt give a eff anymoreLol at the idea of Fitz throwing a perfectly good sandwich and not eating it.Sorry if discussed elsewhere but has Fitz left the reservation?
I was listening to him on Soren yesterday and he seemed to be openly questioning decisions made by LHOFHCBS.
Again lol at Fitz throwing it. He got that far you really think he's not just gonna unbutton the bowling shirt and finish that thing off?
everyone has some point where they are just completely miserable and have to stop. this sandwich could be six feet long or sixty feet.
Again lol at Fitz throwing it. He got that far you really think he's not just gonna unbutton the bowling shirt and finish that thing off?
everyone has some point where they are just completely miserable and have to stop. this sandwich could be six feet long or sixty feet.
Is this the next great question...how many feet of sandwich can Fitz consume?
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Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
well yeah, would you really honestly value fitz opinion on anything?Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
Listening to this now and this entire interview is a mess. Dude completely trashed Charles Jones in favor of Warmack, nevermind Warmack hasn't run the ball better than Jones enough to overcome all of the other things Jones does better.
GOD rough ridin' DAMMIT VENABLES IS JUST SITTING OUT THERE FOR THE TAKING
GOD rough ridin' DAMMIT VENABLES IS JUST SITTING OUT THERE FOR THE TAKINGTHX THE LORD!!!
GOD rough ridin' DAMMIT VENABLES IS JUST SITTING OUT THERE FOR THE TAKING
We REALLY need to win 2 more games.
Win 200 against KU would be a perfect tuck bookend. They would love it.
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If we do beat OSU and KU is the only thing standing between him and 200 wins he might decide to put 100 on KU
If we do beat OSU and KU is the only thing standing between him and 200 wins he might decide to put 100 on KU
Yep, he would rough ridin' punish them.
If we do beat OSU and KU is the only thing standing between him and 200 wins he might decide to put 100 on KU
Yep, he would rough ridin' punish them.
i can see him punishing us by throwing the game so he can come back next season.
NOT IMPRESSED
Kansas State coach LHC Bill Snyder is two wins short of 200 in his career, all in 25 seasons with the Wildcats. Asked about moving up the list of all-time winningest coaches, Snyder said he didn’t have a comment on that. “Not a meaningful statistic to me,” he said.
My guy PJ Fleck will have his Broncos on MACtion tomorrow night, 7PM ESPN2.
If we do beat OSU and KU is the only thing standing between him and 200 wins he might decide to put 100 on KU
Yep, he would rough ridin' punish them.
Ticket prices will be unbelievable if we are sitting at 199 wins with the ku game next on the sched.No they won't. The AD will be selling tons of $40 GA tickets because it's after thanksgiving and the student section would be half full, tons of people will be trying to sell tickets to that game to keep supply high, and soon the KU returned allotment will come in to increase supply.
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My guy PJ Fleck will have his Broncos on MACtion tomorrow night, 7PM ESPN2.You excited to watch the next Texas HC?
Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
Anyone who actually believes that moron deserves to be publicly ridiculed. It's already been mentioned, but he just says things to get attention.
Brent Venables, as much as I like him, will never be a head coach for this school. It's a pipe dream that several of you just need to let go. The Vanier family has closed that door permanently.
Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
Anyone who actually believes that moron deserves to be publicly ridiculed. It's already been mentioned, but he just says things to get attention.
Brent Venables, as much as I like him, will never be a head coach for this school. It's a pipe dream that several of you just need to let go. The Vanier family has closed that door permanently.
i'm v well connected to the vanier family and what you said couldn't be further from the truth
i'll just leave it at that
do you even carl and mary ice bro?Tim "It's Patterson" Fitzgerald said today on Soren's show that he thinks Jerry Kill will be the next head coach.
Anyone who actually believes that moron deserves to be publicly ridiculed. It's already been mentioned, but he just says things to get attention.
Brent Venables, as much as I like him, will never be a head coach for this school. It's a pipe dream that several of you just need to let go. The Vanier family has closed that door permanently.
Ticket prices will be unbelievable if we are sitting at 199 wins with the ku game next on the sched.No they won't. The AD will be selling tons of $40 GA tickets because it's after thanksgiving and the student section would be half full, tons of people will be trying to sell tickets to that game to keep supply high, and soon the KU returned allotment will come in to increase supply.
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My guy PJ Fleck will have his Broncos on MACtion tomorrow night, 7PM ESPN2.You excited to watch the next Texas HC?
Damn! He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
a lot of you know who my father is. those of you that do know I speak from a position of authority on this matter when I say that purpleoil is dead wrong.
I was just rough ridin' around purp'oil. they could still be holding a grudge about him doing sex on and around mary vanier and her entire family.
I'm going to comment shitloads on them, don't you worry
i think everyone here just needs to take a step back and consider a few things-
1) brent venables is the best man for the cats job
2) zero other coaches are a good fit for the wildcat way
3) kstate cats everywhere want brent to come back to the cats and lead the wildcats
now- mind's eye this next part: why would the vanier family who are cats not want to support 1-3 (see above) ?
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
or we could just sit here and speculate a bunch of nonsense
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
i think everyone here just needs to take a step back and consider a few things-
1) brent venables is the best man for the cats job
2) zero other coaches are a good fit for the wildcat way
3) kstate cats everywhere want brent to come back to the cats and lead the wildcats
now- mind's eye this next part: why would the vanier family who are cats not want to support 1-3 (see above) ?
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
or we could just sit here and speculate a bunch of nonsense
I'd love for Venzy to take the job if PJ goes to Oregon
clams wouldn't play my kind could get on the floor but sys would freeze me out even when the j was wet
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
There is high probability that I pissed Pissclams off with my fundamentally sound brand of basketball play.
PJ with a pregame speech that will never be played back in a mocking manner when he gets the job here.I love PJ
Which is kind of a smack in the face to Hawkins. He had some long term success at Boise. PJ is like 25-21 overall.
clams wouldn't play my kind could get on the floor but sys would freeze me out even when the j was wet
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
There is high probability that I pissed Pissclams off with my fundamentally sound brand of basketball play.
i was afternoon pickup guy, not an evening with the fb players.clams wouldn't play my kind could get on the floor but sys would freeze me out even when the j was wet
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
There is high probability that I pissed Pissclams off with my fundamentally sound brand of basketball play.
i don't even understand this post! :eek:
I don't feel good about hiring an adult who still goes by PJ.Didn't KU get their loser coach from the MAC. Also our favorite conference for our OOC game selection.
i was afternoon pickup guy, not an evening with the fb players.clams wouldn't play my kind could get on the floor but sys would freeze me out even when the j was wet
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
There is high probability that I pissed Pissclams off with my fundamentally sound brand of basketball play.
i don't even understand this post! :eek:
KU [klux klan] has an unbroken string of eleventy billion consecutive loser coaches, so you'll have to be more specific.The one they wanted to hang, but instead, made rich with a guaranteed buyout.
i think everyone here just needs to take a step back and consider a few things-
1) brent venables is the best man for the cats job
2) zero other coaches are a good fit for the wildcat way
3) kstate cats everywhere want brent to come back to the cats and lead the wildcats
now- mind's eye this next part: why would the vanier family who are cats not want to support 1-3 (see above) ?
i could very easily reach out to brent and gauge his interest if anyone here wants me to (i personally played basketball at the rec with him a billion times)
or we could just sit here and speculate a bunch of nonsense
Ah yes, the "black one". I thought he came from the bills.That's correct, IIRC.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2FBeer%2520Chug.gif&hash=f1aaab24bd1d387f83139d90346f4f4627ab5e08)
I don't feel good about hiring an adult who still goes by PJ.
Yeah, not trying to be a "cool contrarian", Hawkins had a helluva run too, but failed at a P5 program. Be my guest if you think he's the next Urban Meyer tho. Sucks I'm an idiot however. :frown:
There are no coordinators who had success as a head coach in the past.Leavitt
Another home run post by ole meow meow folks. Keep up the great work. :thumbs:
Yup! And now he's crushing it at Colorado as their D coordinator.There are no coordinators who had success as a head coach in the past.Leavitt
Isn't Leavitt like 65? Are we looking at a short term lease or something that could be long term?59.
Isn't Leavitt like 65? Are we looking at a short term lease or something that could be long term?He's old and old school; do not want.
The Cats' Pajamas (PJ)Do not want a loser coach from the MAC.
Watch out katdaddy!The Cats' Pajamas (PJ)Do not want a loser coach from the MAC.
Isn't Leavitt like 65? Are we looking at a short term lease or something that could be long term?You take the best available regardless. Not saying that's Leavitt, just saying if you can expect 5 good years from a coach, you take that coach. It's no different than worrying about a coach using KSU as a stepping stone. The more success KSU has in football after Snyder, the more "legit" it becomes.
Jim Leavitt never won a conference championship and was fired for abusing his players. He lost 4 games in his best years.He helped them move up from NCAA Division I-AA independent, to a D1 independent, to conference USA, and then to the Big East. Pretty hard to win a conference championship when 6 out of the 15 years you weren't in a conference. If you want to disregard his work, that's fine, but he currently has the 12th best defense in the country. 95-57 in that type of transition is pretty salty. But hey man, this fleck guy is hot right now! :love:
Jim Leavitt never won a conference championship and was fired for abusing his players. He lost 4 games in his best years.He helped them move up from NCAA Division I-AA independent, to a D1 independent, to conference USA, and then to the Big East. Pretty hard to win a conference championship when 6 out of the 15 years you weren't in a conference. If you want to disregard his work, that's fine, but he currently has the 12th best defense in the country. 95-57 in that type of transition is pretty salty. But hey man, this fleck guy is hot right now! :love:
Agreed. Mine would go:Yes, good choices. :gocho:
Brent
Herman (will never happen)Leavitt
[/s]PJ
Get the eff out of here with Leavitt.
Herman's coaching tree is sexy and gross at the same time. But those Texas recruiting ties! :love:Herman would be a dream come true. :love:
Notable head coaches under whom Herman has served:
Mack Brown: Texas
David Bailiff: Rice
Paul Rhoads: Iowa State
Urban Meyer: Ohio State
I think we could do way worse than him under Currie, but that's just my :th_twocents:Get the eff out of here with Leavitt.
yes, he's below the burn it down cutoff as HC
Lincoln riley or whatever his name isIsn't he already at Lincoln? :dunno:
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Everyone seems to think JC would never hire Brent(not sure the origin of that), but we know for a fact that JC has told Bill no when he tried to bring Leavitt here before, correct?
Everyone seems to think JC would never hire Brent(not sure the origin of that), but we know for a fact that JC has told Bill no when he tried to bring Leavitt here before, correct?
Currie has never hired a head coach without head coaching experience, not saying he won't but he hasn't.
Our list is going to be filled with guys like Fleck, Ruhle, and Jeff Brohm
I think the leavitt mentions are trolling but I'm not sure.
Who are we likely competing with for these candidates? Tennessee maybe Oregon.arizona baylor indiana possibly im sure there are a few more
LSU is the #1 job right now. They won't fire strong.Are you sure about that. During the Texas game, I meet a man from Texas that seems to be in the know. He said Charlie's job was in jeopardy due to the fact he fired all his coaches and replaced them with men of color. :ohno: This is why those in charge(big money men) have the hawk eye on him.
Them winning last week didn't help their case if they want him out of there tho. It will be interesting to see how they play out.LSU is the #1 job right now. They won't fire strong.Are you sure about that. During the Texas game, I meet a man from Texas that seems to be in the know. He said Charlie's job was in jeopardy due to the fact he fired all his coaches and replaced them with men of color. :ohno: This is why those in charge(big money men) have the hawk eye on him.
And of course texas
Who are we likely competing with for these candidates? Tennessee maybe Oregon.arizona baylor indiana possibly im sure there are a few more
My order of preference:ROW THE DAMN BOAT
Brent
PJ
Jim
I would be happy with any of the 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sslRtczhs
My order of preference:ROW THE DAMN BOAT
Brent
PJ
Jim
I would be happy with any of the 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sslRtczhs
how're we guessing this all plays out??Nope
this is speculation but I see us having to find a new coach and AD all in the same year..
Currie goes to Wake Forest for the same position and Bill then gets full say on who the next coach should be.
out of the mouth of babes..how're we guessing this all plays out??Nope
this is speculation but I see us having to find a new coach and AD all in the same year..
Currie goes to Wake Forest for the same position and Bill then gets full say on who the next coach should be.
i wonder if friend of LHC LHC Bill Snyder, gary pinkle is going to coach againDoes anyone have that GIF of Pinkle meeting LHCBS @ midfield after Moo's loss in Manhattan. The meeting that literally lasted 2 seconds?
i wonder if friend of LHC LHC Bill Snyder, gary pinkle is going to coach againDoes anyone have that GIF of Pinkle meeting LHCBS @ midfield after Moo's loss in Manhattan. The meeting that literally lasted 2 seconds?
i wonder if friend of LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder, gary pinkle is going to coach againDoes anyone have that GIF of Pinkle meeting LHCBS @ midfield after Moo's loss in Manhattan. The meeting that literally lasted 2 seconds?
i'm not sure it lasted that long but it didn't need to b/c those guys kick it all the time together and are best buds 24/7 BFFs
I personally don't think he is going anywhere. Probably going to Joe Pa this thing until death.
Can we fire this thread back up now that we got Bill to 200?You didn't really think 200 would be enough for Bill to retire, did you?
Can we fire this thread back up now that we got Bill to 200?You didn't really think 200 would be enough for Bill to retire, did you?
Can we fire this thread back up now that we got Bill to 200?You didn't really think 200 would be enough for Bill to retire, did you?
I thought him not caring about 200 this week was an act. Then I saw his reaction when he tried to go in the locker room and Sean made him turn around to go back to midfield for the video. I really don't think he cared.
He wasn't happy after the game yesterday. He also had a lot of nice things to say about some players though. I think he thinks the team isn't playing up to it's potential and he's sticking around a couple more years to try and get another Big12 title.
Can we fire this thread back up now that we got Bill to 200?You didn't really think 200 would be enough for Bill to retire, did you?
What's Mangino up to these days (work wise not weight)?Nothing in any official capacity, but we all know nobody is going anywhere.
Can we fire this thread back up now that we got Bill to 200?You didn't really think 200 would be enough for Bill to retire, did you?
I thought him not caring about 200 this week was an act. Then I saw his reaction when he tried to go in the locker room and Sean made him turn around to go back to midfield for the video. I really don't think he cared.
He wasn't happy after the game yesterday. He also had a lot of nice things to say about some players though. I think he thinks the team isn't playing up to it's potential and he's sticking around a couple more years to try and get another Big12 title.
goddammit
The only change that might happen is if Del retires and we bring back Klein as QB coach. I have no idea if he can coach, but Del appears to have has no effect on Ertz's passing. If his passing isn't improving, I'll take Klein just working with him to get thru the year and motivation.Del isn't retiring until Snyder does. They're all walking out together.
After the game yesterday Burton, who is supposed to be a senior leader, said they started lollygagging (his words). There appears to be a motivation problem on the O. After every bad drive Coleman does the same "Come On" routine that everyone ignores. Maybe Collin would help with that, but I just reaching for positive straws.
What's Mangino up to these days (work wise not weight)?
more insider info: i would guess that there are a lot of people that want the job
i begin each and every day with a prayer that head coach snyder's health will permit him to get to 250.
more insider info: i would guess that there are a lot of people that want the job
:love:i begin each and every day with a prayer that head coach snyder's health will permit him to get to 250.
Would this give Sean enough time to go get some head coaching experience elsewhere?
How pissed is everyone gonna be if Snyder goes one more year, but Fleck and Venebles get head coaching gigs this year? :ohno:Probably just as pissed as Underwood to OSU x10 because Football!
How pissed is everyone gonna be if Snyder goes one more year, but Fleck and Venebles get head coaching gigs this year? :ohno:Probably just as pissed as Underwood to OSU x10 because Football!
How pissed is everyone gonna be if Snyder goes one more year, but Fleck and Venebles get head coaching gigs this year? :ohno:
I see PJ Fleck going to Purdue or possibly Oregon. I'm not sure I believe Venables even wants to be a head coach.
What do you guys think Venables' favorite parts of schooling, playing or assistant coaching at KSU were?
What do you guys think Venables' favorite parts of schooling, playing or assistant coaching at KSU were?
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What do you guys think Venables' favorite parts of schooling, playing or assistant coaching at KSU were?
Aggieville.
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What do you guys think Venables' favorite parts of schooling, playing or assistant coaching at KSU were?
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:sdeek:What do you guys think Venables' favorite parts of schooling, playing or assistant coaching at KSU were?
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What do you guys think Venables' favorite parts of schooling, playing or assistant coaching at KSU were?Slaying & raping the women of K=State.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Fthumbs_up_emoticon.gif&hash=b1f2e975b7df20d1f196018d8418db79682bd85d)
What do you guys think Venables' favorite parts of schooling, playing or assistant coaching at KSU were?
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I see PJ Fleck going to Purdue or possibly Oregon. I'm not sure I believe Venables even wants to be a head coach.
Yes, he mentioned serval times that he wants to coach as long as he is healthy.I see PJ Fleck going to Purdue or possibly Oregon. I'm not sure I believe Venables even wants to be a head coach.
I don't think it's crazy that all three of them remain where they are. No one really knows but there are people around certain that Fleck is going to stay. If Purdue is the only P5 offer he gets he may not go, he's going to get another raise, he already makes more than Beaty. Purdue will need to give him a good amount of money, possibly more than they're comfortable with.
Venables isn't on anyone's list which isn't surprising given where the open jobs are. Houston makes the most sense but they likely can't afford him.
As for Snyder I think I've come to realize that he isn't going to have a planned retirement at all. When he leaves it will be sloppy and probably not beneficial to us, he'll have a health issue or he'll wake up at some point in June or something and figure out he doesn't want to do it anymore.
I think Snyder probably wants to stay another year or two at this point. He's got a core of younger talent on par with 2011 IMO. I'm sure he would like to at least get another 10 win season before he bows out and with what we have in place it might be possible.a 36 yard field goal @ wvu and not melting down vs. osu and he very likely could have had that this season. i hope he puts together another run similar to '11 and '12. it was loads of fun.
I think Snyder probably wants to stay another year or two at this point. He's got a core of younger talent on par with 2011 IMO. I'm sure he would like to at least get another 10 win season before he bows out and with what we have in place it might be possible.a 36 yard field goal @ wvu and not melting down vs. osu and he very likely could have had that this season. i hope he puts together another run similar to '11 and '12. it was loads of fun.
Preferably '12 rather than '11... my heart cannot handle the 2011 season again... let's just not do that "lose the 2nd to last game of the year to a lesser team to lose our chances at a natty" thing again...
I see PJ Fleck going to Purdue or possibly Oregon. I'm not sure I believe Venables even wants to be a head coach.
Our next coach will not be Venables, because on Tuesday Keitzman said that absolutely will not happen.
I think Snyder probably wants to stay another year or two at this point. He's got a core of younger talent on par with 2011 IMO. I'm sure he would like to at least get another 10 win season before he bows out and with what we have in place it might be possible.
The quote function can be tricky sometimes, but that's more like it!Our next coach will not be Venables, because on Tuesday Keitzman said that absolutely will not happen.I see PJ Fleck going to Purdue or possibly Oregon. I'm not sure I believe Venables even wants to be a head coach.
I don't think it's crazy that all three of them remain where they are. No one really knows but there are people around certain that Fleck is going to stay. If Purdue is the only P5 offer he gets he may not go, he's going to get another raise, he already makes more than Beaty. Purdue will need to give him a good amount of money, possibly more than they're comfortable with.
Venables isn't on anyone's list which isn't surprising given where the open jobs are. Houston makes the most sense but they likely can't afford him.
As for Snyder I think I've come to realize that he isn't going to have a planned retirement at all. When he leaves it will be sloppy and probably not beneficial to us, he'll have a health issue or he'll wake up at some point in June or something and figure out he doesn't want to do it anymore.
We have a real chance to win 9 games this year and then 10+ the next two years with how bad the Big 12 is. We also have a very solid group of young players being worked into the system. If Snyder wants to leave with the program in the best possible shape, then he probably needs to leave now. Fleck would be my first choice and I think he'd be a great fit, but I would be surprised if we were even on his radar. That being said, I think that if Leavitt wants the job we should give it to him now. He probably has about ten years left in him and I think he would be able to at least sustain the level of success we've had in Snyder 2.0. If Sean stayed on as ST coordinator, then we would only be a solid OC from being a really good team, considering Leavitt's defensive coaching prowess.30/70% imho
10 games next year will be tough, OU basically starts with 5 tds in MHK and goes from there and I don't see anything but a wild loss in Stillwater. If Ertz can just other teams even worry aboutThisthrowingcompleting it over their heads we could be great on offense and coast everywhere else in this league.
Oh good grief
The quote function can be tricky sometimes, but that's more like it!Our next coach will not be Venables, because on Tuesday Keitzman said that absolutely will not happen.I see PJ Fleck going to Purdue or possibly Oregon. I'm not sure I believe Venables even wants to be a head coach.
I don't think it's crazy that all three of them remain where they are. No one really knows but there are people around certain that Fleck is going to stay. If Purdue is the only P5 offer he gets he may not go, he's going to get another raise, he already makes more than Beaty. Purdue will need to give him a good amount of money, possibly more than they're comfortable with.
Venables isn't on anyone's list which isn't surprising given where the open jobs are. Houston makes the most sense but they likely can't afford him.
As for Snyder I think I've come to realize that he isn't going to have a planned retirement at all. When he leaves it will be sloppy and probably not beneficial to us, he'll have a health issue or he'll wake up at some point in June or something and figure out he doesn't want to do it anymore.
We have a real chance to win 9 games this year and then 10+ the next two years with how bad the Big 12 is. We also have a very solid group of young players being worked into the system. If Snyder wants to leave with the program in the best possible shape, then he probably needs to leave now. Fleck would be my first choice and I think he'd be a great fit, but I would be surprised if we were even on his radar. That being said, I think that if Leavitt wants the job we should give it to him now. He probably has about ten years left in him and I think he would be able to at least sustain the level of success we've had in Snyder 2.0. If Sean stayed on as ST coordinator, then we would only be a solid OC from being a really good team, considering Leavitt's defensive coaching prowess.
the b12 needs to reset their conference schedules.
when they created this thing they paved OU a path to the national championship every other year by giving them the H/A rotation that they did.
ours should be like theirs
Oh good grief
Have you guys seen what has become of our once bustling bb board? It's in neglected shambles. If whoeves sock reno is would stop using that sock, there would be basically no traffic on it.I know of a few posters who would post on the bb board more if reno would gtfo. Ski Be !
the b12 needs to reset their conference schedules.
when they created this thing they paved OU a path to the national championship every other year by giving them the H/A rotation that they did.
ours should be like theirs
What's the abnormality with their h/a rotation? I think never having to play in Austin is their biggest assist.
the b12 needs to reset their conference schedules.
when they created this thing they paved OU a path to the national championship every other year by giving them the H/A rotation that they did.
ours should be like theirs
What's the abnormality with their h/a rotation? I think never having to play in Austin is their biggest assist.
this season their only road game was @ wvu
isu, wvu, tt, tcu, (and hosted at dallas v ut)
Have you guys seen what has become of our once bustling bb board? It's in neglected shambles. If whoeves sock reno is would stop using that sock, there would be basically no traffic on it.I know of a few posters who would post on the bb board more if reno would gtfo. Ski Be !
long play to get an ignore function?Have you guys seen what has become of our once bustling bb board? It's in neglected shambles. If whoeves sock reno is would stop using that sock, there would be basically no traffic on it.I know of a few posters who would post on the bb board more if reno would gtfo. Ski Be !
heh
long play to get an ignore function?Have you guys seen what has become of our once bustling bb board? It's in neglected shambles. If whoeves sock reno is would stop using that sock, there would be basically no traffic on it.I know of a few posters who would post on the bb board more if reno would gtfo. Ski Be !
heh
dumdeedum is a great poster and an even better dad. i'm happy to help him out.The quote function can be tricky sometimes, but that's more like it!Our next coach will not be Venables, because on Tuesday Keitzman said that absolutely will not happen.I see PJ Fleck going to Purdue or possibly Oregon. I'm not sure I believe Venables even wants to be a head coach.
I don't think it's crazy that all three of them remain where they are. No one really knows but there are people around certain that Fleck is going to stay. If Purdue is the only P5 offer he gets he may not go, he's going to get another raise, he already makes more than Beaty. Purdue will need to give him a good amount of money, possibly more than they're comfortable with.
Venables isn't on anyone's list which isn't surprising given where the open jobs are. Houston makes the most sense but they likely can't afford him.
As for Snyder I think I've come to realize that he isn't going to have a planned retirement at all. When he leaves it will be sloppy and probably not beneficial to us, he'll have a health issue or he'll wake up at some point in June or something and figure out he doesn't want to do it anymore.
Thank you, I was wondering what the hell was happening.
this is not directed at anyone in particular but why would a fan not be frustrated with this season? Its okay to be very happy and frustrated at the same time guys. And if you weren't than you werent watching. We have a very good team that was handcuffed by people that make 6 figure salariesOh good grief
I kind of agree with slim. Is trade the word arrogance with incompetence though. We've discussed a lot of the second half offense stuff that happened most of the season. I'm more angry with the defense. The production from that unit given the amount of talent they have is inexcusable, most assistant coaches would have been canned for the multi year stretch Hayes has had. We have two Big 12 defensive poy and all-america candidates in our front seven, two guys in the secondary who will be first or second team all-conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see as many as six or seven get all-conference honors. The scheme is terrible and I have no idea how Hayes is getting a paycheck.
one of my favorite sequences in bbs history:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27982.msg875474#msg875474 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27982.msg875474#msg875474)
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I kind of agree with slim. Is trade the word arrogance with incompetence though. We've discussed a lot of the second half offense stuff that happened most of the season. I'm more angry with the defense. The production from that unit given the amount of talent they have is inexcusable, most assistant coaches would have been canned for the multi year stretch Hayes has had. We have two Big 12 defensive poy and all-america candidates in our front seven, two guys in the secondary who will be first or second team all-conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see as many as six or seven get all-conference honors. The scheme is terrible and I have no idea how Hayes is getting a paycheck.
this is not directed at anyone in particular but why would a fan not be frustrated with this season? Its okay to be very happy and frustrated at the same time guys. And if you weren't than you werent watching. We have a very good team that was handcuffed by people that make 6 figure salariesOh good grief
I kind of agree with slim. Is trade the word arrogance with incompetence though. We've discussed a lot of the second half offense stuff that happened most of the season. I'm more angry with the defense. The production from that unit given the amount of talent they have is inexcusable, most assistant coaches would have been canned for the multi year stretch Hayes has had. We have two Big 12 defensive poy and all-america candidates in our front seven, two guys in the secondary who will be first or second team all-conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see as many as six or seven get all-conference honors. The scheme is terrible and I have no idea how Hayes is getting a paycheck.
this is not directed at anyone in particular but why would a fan not be frustrated with this season? Its okay to be very happy and frustrated at the same time guys. And if you weren't than you werent watching. We have a very good team that was handcuffed by people that make 6 figure salariesOh good grief
I kind of agree with slim. Is trade the word arrogance with incompetence though. We've discussed a lot of the second half offense stuff that happened most of the season. I'm more angry with the defense. The production from that unit given the amount of talent they have is inexcusable, most assistant coaches would have been canned for the multi year stretch Hayes has had. We have two Big 12 defensive poy and all-america candidates in our front seven, two guys in the secondary who will be first or second team all-conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see as many as six or seven get all-conference honors. The scheme is terrible and I have no idea how Hayes is getting a paycheck.
I kind of get the criticism, and I am often frustrated by aspects of the coaching, but you're living in fantasy land if you think we would have the same "very good team" without the staff you seem to think is also holding them back. It's also nonsense to act like coaching has nothing to do with players getting all conference honors.
this is not directed at anyone in particular but why would a fan not be frustrated with this season? Its okay to be very happy and frustrated at the same time guys. And if you weren't than you werent watching. We have a very good team that was handcuffed by people that make 6 figure salariesOh good grief
I kind of agree with slim. Is trade the word arrogance with incompetence though. We've discussed a lot of the second half offense stuff that happened most of the season. I'm more angry with the defense. The production from that unit given the amount of talent they have is inexcusable, most assistant coaches would have been canned for the multi year stretch Hayes has had. We have two Big 12 defensive poy and all-america candidates in our front seven, two guys in the secondary who will be first or second team all-conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see as many as six or seven get all-conference honors. The scheme is terrible and I have no idea how Hayes is getting a paycheck.
I kind of get the criticism, and I am often frustrated by aspects of the coaching, but you're living in fantasy land if you think we would have the same "very good team" without the staff you seem to think is also holding them back. It's also nonsense to act like coaching has nothing to do with players getting all conference honors.
That's the thing with this staff, the development seems to be very good, it's an A+ staff Sunday-Friday. What the hell is going on Saturdays though?
I'm not going to give the coaches too much credit for what the individual talent is doing, Willis and Lee would be stars everywhere. Willis is now projected in the first round now, he's 6'5" 260 and fast, that isn't Tom Hayes, sorry.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-jonathan-allen-myles-garrett-first-2017-mock-draft/
This mock draft has Jordan Willis going in the 1st round.
I'd be interested to see the links you are looking at. I legit can't find him listed as a top tier prospect.
I'd be interested to see the links you are looking at. I legit can't find him listed as a top tier prospect.
I would guess a lot of sites list him as an OLB in the NFL. If you were looking at DE, you weren't seeing him.
I'd be interested to see the links you are looking at. I legit can't find him listed as a top tier prospect.
I would guess a lot of sites list him as an OLB in the NFL. If you were looking at DE, you weren't seeing him.
Yea he is #7 or #8 on most sites as OLB that I checked. Probably puts him 4th round or so. Just can't find anything projecting him as a first round guy.
this is not directed at anyone in particular but why would a fan not be frustrated with this season? Its okay to be very happy and frustrated at the same time guys. And if you weren't than you werent watching. We have a very good team that was handcuffed by people that make 6 figure salariesOh good grief
I kind of agree with slim. Is trade the word arrogance with incompetence though. We've discussed a lot of the second half offense stuff that happened most of the season. I'm more angry with the defense. The production from that unit given the amount of talent they have is inexcusable, most assistant coaches would have been canned for the multi year stretch Hayes has had. We have two Big 12 defensive poy and all-america candidates in our front seven, two guys in the secondary who will be first or second team all-conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see as many as six or seven get all-conference honors. The scheme is terrible and I have no idea how Hayes is getting a paycheck.
I kind of get the criticism, and I am often frustrated by aspects of the coaching, but you're living in fantasy land if you think we would have the same "very good team" without the staff you seem to think is also holding them back. It's also nonsense to act like coaching has nothing to do with players getting all conference honors.
That's the thing with this staff, the development seems to be very good, it's an A+ staff Sunday-Friday. What the hell is going on Saturdays though?
I'm not going to give the coaches too much credit for what the individual talent is doing, Willis and Lee would be stars everywhere. Willis is now projected in the first round now, he's 6'5" 260 and fast, that isn't Tom Hayes, sorry.
Are you referencing this? I haven't been able to find him even in the top 10 DE prospects on all the major mock draft sites.https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-jonathan-allen-myles-garrett-first-2017-mock-draft/
This mock draft has Jordan Willis going in the 1st round.
this is not directed at anyone in particular but why would a fan not be frustrated with this season? Its okay to be very happy and frustrated at the same time guys. And if you weren't than you werent watching. We have a very good team that was handcuffed by people that make 6 figure salariesOh good grief
I kind of agree with slim. Is trade the word arrogance with incompetence though. We've discussed a lot of the second half offense stuff that happened most of the season. I'm more angry with the defense. The production from that unit given the amount of talent they have is inexcusable, most assistant coaches would have been canned for the multi year stretch Hayes has had. We have two Big 12 defensive poy and all-america candidates in our front seven, two guys in the secondary who will be first or second team all-conference, I wouldn't be surprised to see as many as six or seven get all-conference honors. The scheme is terrible and I have no idea how Hayes is getting a paycheck.
I kind of get the criticism, and I am often frustrated by aspects of the coaching, but you're living in fantasy land if you think we would have the same "very good team" without the staff you seem to think is also holding them back. It's also nonsense to act like coaching has nothing to do with players getting all conference honors.
That's the thing with this staff, the development seems to be very good, it's an A+ staff Sunday-Friday. What the hell is going on Saturdays though?
I'm not going to give the coaches too much credit for what the individual talent is doing, Willis and Lee would be stars everywhere. Willis is now projected in the first round now, he's 6'5" 260 and fast, that isn't Tom Hayes, sorry.
Are you referencing this? I haven't been able to find him even in the top 10 DE prospects on all the major mock draft sites.https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-jonathan-allen-myles-garrett-first-2017-mock-draft/
This mock draft has Jordan Willis going in the 1st round.
I'd be interested to see the links you are looking at. I legit can't find him listed as a top tier prospect.
I would guess a lot of sites list him as an OLB in the NFL. If you were looking at DE, you weren't seeing him.
Yea he is #7 or #8 on most sites as OLB that I checked. Probably puts him 4th round or so. Just can't find anything projecting him as a first round guy.
I mean I told you exactly how I found it, since Google seems to be some kind of puzzle here's one so we can move on.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-jonathan-allen-myles-garrett-first-2017-mock-draft/
Greg Schiano would be really weird and entertaining.
Greg Schiano would be really weird and entertaining.
Thoughts on Schiano? I don't think he would be bad.
Schiano is a well known piece of crap human
Was just daydreaming about this scenario: 'Cats win out, Clemson Wins the Natty, Snyder announces retirement after Natty, Brent comes home.
I wanna give up on the pipe dream to make it easier in the end, but i just can't. It gives me a sense of hope and happiness about our 'Cats in the future.
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Was just daydreaming about this scenario: 'Cats win out, Clemson Wins the Natty, Snyder announces retirement after Natty, Brent comes home.
I wanna give up on the pipe dream to make it easier in the end, but i just can't. It gives me a sense of hope and happiness about our 'Cats in the future.
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Don't give up on my dreams man, they are fantastic.....especially the one you are talking about. Dreams can come true
LOLWas just daydreaming about this scenario: 'Cats win out, Clemson Wins the Natty, Snyder announces retirement after Natty, Brent comes home.
I wanna give up on the pipe dream to make it easier in the end, but i just can't. It gives me a sense of hope and happiness about our 'Cats in the future.
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Don't give up on my dreams man, they are fantastic.....especially the one you are talking about. Dreams can come true
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Probably can put this bitch on ice indefinitely.
Some rando on my FB posted that Leavitt will be announced tomorrow. At best a D level source
Some rando on my FB posted that Leavitt will be announced tomorrow. At best a D level source
Some rando on my FB posted that Leavitt will be announced tomorrow. At best a D level source
Bill wouldn't announce before the bowl game.
I don't think winning this award is putting him on the radar of any ad of any job he would take. My guess is most P5 ADs know exactly who he is.I agree. Just scary.
He's probably just not a very smart person. Like good at football stuff, dumb at life/interacting with academics.I could see that when he was in his 30s with the Stoops Bros as his mentors but Dabo seems like an excellent role model from the political perspective. There does seem to be something there that keeps him from even getting involved in some of these jobs.
He's probably just not a very smart person. Like good at football stuff, dumb at life/interacting with academics.I could see that when he was in his 30s with the Stoops Bros as his mentors but Dabo seems like an excellent role model from the political perspective. There does seem to be something there that keeps him from even getting involved in some of these jobs.
I mean, Muschamp is like an uglier version of BV that has already flamed out at a top 10ish job and yet he still got the USCe job. That is probably a bad example as BV might not want to become Dabo's instate rival but Brent's name is not coming up anywhere.
Maybe all this happens for a reason?I hate you
Maybe we were supposed to have had Ron, and see how terrible it was having a terrible coach? Then maybe we were supposed to see how nice it was to have Bill back, and have one last chance to kinda cherish being decent.
And maybe we were supposed to have gotten oscar Weber to show us that life can move on when we don't give a eff about a K-State sports team anymore.
So, it might have all prepared us for football being terrible for forever again.
Kinda peaceful when you think about it like that.
Maybe all this happens for a reason?
Maybe we were supposed to have had Ron, and see how terrible it was having a terrible coach? Then maybe we were supposed to see how nice it was to have Bill back, and have one last chance to kinda cherish being decent.
And maybe we were supposed to have gotten oscar Weber to show us that life can move on when we don't give a eff about a K-State sports team anymore.
So, it might have all prepared us for football being terrible for forever again.
Kinda peaceful when you think about it like that.
Is Greg Schiano (former Rutgers HC, apparent nutjob) too far outside the lines to consider?
the vaniers swing a bigger dick than you thought
Is Greg Schiano (former Rutgers HC, apparent nutjob) too far outside the lines to consider?
Is Greg Schiano (former Rutgers HC, apparent nutjob) too far outside the lines to consider?
yes, don't forget that he was also a Sandusky witness and was widely considered a trash human by most before that.
:dunno:Is Greg Schiano (former Rutgers HC, apparent nutjob) too far outside the lines to consider?
yes, don't forget that he was also a Sandusky witness and was widely considered a trash human by most before that.
I feel like you cast your Sandusky net a little too wide.
:dunno:Is Greg Schiano (former Rutgers HC, apparent nutjob) too far outside the lines to consider?
yes, don't forget that he was also a Sandusky witness and was widely considered a trash human by most before that.
I feel like you cast your Sandusky net a little too wide.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.ca655a9eb5b1
All that being said I have much more of an issue with your casting of this net yesterday with Rhule. He simply played under Sandusky, he never coached a single day at Penn State, it's beyond unfair to mention his name with that monster.
All that being said I have much more of an issue with your casting of this net yesterday with Rhule. He simply played under Sandusky, he never coached a single day at Penn State, it's beyond unfair to mention his name with that monster.
That's fair, my general point on Ruhle is that he was a part of the Penn State culture that produced Sandusky, something that Baylor might be wise to avoid given their current state.
Also Schiano is still complete trash.
Scott Frost moves the needle for me.
Will be interesting to see how he developes over the next few years while Snyder continues coaching, timing may end up working out.
Isn't that what we said last year?Eventually the spaghetti will stick, there will be some i told you so's, and we'll all lol
Could be alot of action in this thread after the bowl game.....(hopefully after all bowl games are over)
I put a gps tracking device on venzy's car and bugged his phone so It'll update when appropriate.venzys kid commited to clemson today
I hope he's an uber studI put a gps tracking device on venzy's car and bugged his phone so It'll update when appropriate.venzys kid commited to clemson today
I put a gps tracking device on venzy's car and bugged his phone so It'll update when appropriate.venzys kid commited to clemson today
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say nothing happens.
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Was just daydreaming about this scenario: 'Cats win out, Clemson Wins the Natty, Snyder announces retirement after Natty, Brent comes home.
I wanna give up on the pipe dream to make it easier in the end, but i just can't. It gives me a sense of hope and happiness about our 'Cats in the future.
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Go there, explore.I'm gonna go out on a limb and say nothing happens.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say nothing happens.
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I mean, if anything happens, it will just be Dana getting the official title, right?If that does happen, then LHCBS will get his wish...Sean to stay at KSU as OC. :billdance:
If he wants to retire so be it but now is the worst time possible to do it.why?
If he wants to retire so be it but now is the worst time possible to do it.why?
recruiting door is closing, december grads coming in, most if not all of the better candidates have either signed extensions or taken new jobs.If he wants to retire so be it but now is the worst time possible to do it.why?
Venzy, bruhs.okay and why not go back two months and hire him then? clemson has signed 4 recruits in the last week including venzys son (which doesn't mean everything but it does mean something)
is this an actual real life question?Venzy, bruhs.okay and why not go back two months and hire him then?
you think bill woke up this morning and said eff it? outside of his health drastically changing he knows when he will be done and if it is now he is putting us behind the 8 ball. (again it wouldn't surprise me with how big of a selfish prick he is)is this an actual real life question?Venzy, bruhs.okay and why not go back two months and hire him then?
well, for starters, yes. I think bill is a weirdo who could choose to retire on any random day. that's what he did the first time.you think bill woke up this morning and said eff it? outside of his health drastically changing he knows when he will be done and if it is now he is putting us behind the 8 ball. (again it wouldn't surprise me with how big of a selfish prick he is)is this an actual real life question?Venzy, bruhs.okay and why not go back two months and hire him then?
you think bill woke up this morning and said eff it? outside of his health drastically changing he knows when he will be done and if it is now he is putting us behind the 8 ball. (again it wouldn't surprise me with how big of a selfish prick he is)is this an actual real life question?Venzy, bruhs.okay and why not go back two months and hire him then?
Yeah, not sure who we missed out on we would have wanted or could have hadNobody.
Currie ran another guy off...That's not what happened here, dummy.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/former-minnesota-coach-jerry-kill-lead-rutgers-offense?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Top25
Currie ran another guy off...That's not what happened here, dummy.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/former-minnesota-coach-jerry-kill-lead-rutgers-offense?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Top25
Who was the asst coach that wanted to retire, but was convinced to hold on - Hayes?
Whoever it was, maybe we'll get to have a coaching search for that spot.
He's spoken nothing but nice things since he's been here. He's a consistent guest on KC radio stations around here. He's been honest from day 1 that he'd reconsider getting back into coaching soon. It's apparent he missed it. You don't need to be so predictable and point the finger at Currie, just because you have no idea what you're talking about.Currie ran another guy off...That's not what happened here, dummy.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/former-minnesota-coach-jerry-kill-lead-rutgers-offense?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Top25
How do you know Kill didn't call his agent and tell him, "Get me the Hell out of here!"
He's spoken nothing but nice things since he's been here. He's a consistent guest on KC radio stations around here. He's been honest from day 1 that he'd reconsider getting back into coaching soon. It's apparent he missed it. You don't need to be so predictable and point the finger at Currie, just because you have no idea what you're talking about.Currie ran another guy off...That's not what happened here, dummy.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/former-minnesota-coach-jerry-kill-lead-rutgers-offense?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Top25
How do you know Kill didn't call his agent and tell him, "Get me the Hell out of here!"
when I think of two people with similar personalities, I think of Frank Martin and Jerry Kill.He's spoken nothing but nice things since he's been here. He's a consistent guest on KC radio stations around here. He's been honest from day 1 that he'd reconsider getting back into coaching soon. It's apparent he missed it. You don't need to be so predictable and point the finger at Currie, just because you have no idea what you're talking about.Currie ran another guy off...That's not what happened here, dummy.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/former-minnesota-coach-jerry-kill-lead-rutgers-offense?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Top25
How do you know Kill didn't call his agent and tell him, "Get me the Hell out of here!"
Frank did the same thing.
:facepalm: Are you seriously comparing the two very different situations?He's spoken nothing but nice things since he's been here. He's a consistent guest on KC radio stations around here. He's been honest from day 1 that he'd reconsider getting back into coaching soon. It's apparent he missed it. You don't need to be so predictable and point the finger at Currie, just because you have no idea what you're talking about.Currie ran another guy off...That's not what happened here, dummy.
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/former-minnesota-coach-jerry-kill-lead-rutgers-offense?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Top25
How do you know Kill didn't call his agent and tell him, "Get me the Hell out of here!"
Frank did the same thing.
When a major health issue unexpectedly changes for the better, it's time to start coaching again.eff he is going to be our next hc isnt he? What a ploy by currie, get him here to advise then send him to an awful team so he can prove himself again and then come here to flop all over shitty astroturf. Well played john, well played
Let's hope that Rutgers OC job is the sweet spot of fulfillment between the seizure-inducing Minnesota head gig and whatever he was doing for $150K inside and in the hallways between Snyder's and Currie's offices.
what if franks middle name was kill and the first letter of his last name was e and he was married to a person named scarlett and they wanted a new contract to stay at kstate and john currie said "frank kill e., scarlett, I don't give a damn. then he had to go coach at south Carolina.
:facepalm: Are you seriously comparing the two very different situations?
Frank did the same thing.
All of this is reasonable (likely even?), but does Currie cuss? I mean, I assume he does behind closed doors at his loved ones, but in public?
:facepalm: Are you seriously comparing the two very different situations?
Frank did the same thing.
Do you even have any idea wtf he was doing with us while he was here?:facepalm: Are you seriously comparing the two very different situations?
Frank did the same thing.
No. Just refuting your theory.
Kill, dummy. He stopped coaching because of his health, took an assistant AD job with us and hung out with the football team from time to time. His health got better and he said from day 1 that if this ever happened, he could see himself getting back into coaching as a coordinator, which is what happened. Blaming Currie for this is lazy and Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
He's said the exact opposite on the radio, weekly, over the last year. But that doesn't fit your narrative, so eff Currie, right? It gets old.
Kill is making a big cash room move. That is getting overlooked.
Not GEing here but what exactly did he do for 150k in his 9ish months here?
You really need to relax, 'slim. Like, you really take yourself way too seriously these days.what? It was a legit question wacky and it wasnt intended solely for you...
Not GEing here but what exactly did he do for 150k in his 9ish months here?
He would have been the emergency interim HC if bill croaked to prevent a takeover by Sean. Now that he's no longer needed (bill done & venzy coming), he is free to move on.
Fluffing your feathers when I replied back with a smart ass response, is pretty bizarre, considering were on a joke board and all.crazy to think about i know but there ARE people on this board that know inside stuff. Also when you say "not GEing" it means you are being genuine. ALSO ALSO didnt you throw a huge fit on twitter not that long ago saying eff this place blah blah blah and whatnot...in conclusion i was honesty just curious (as a donor) what he was paid for
Fluffing your feathers when I replied back with a smart ass response, is pretty bizarre, considering were on a joke board and all.crazy to think about i know but there ARE people on this board that know inside stuff. Also when you say "not GEing" it means you are being genuine. ALSO ALSO didnt you throw a huge fit on twitter not that long ago saying eff this place blah blah blah and whatnot...in conclusion i was honesty just curious (as a donor) what he was paid for
Not GEing here but what exactly did he do for 150k in his 9ish months here?
He would have been the emergency interim HC if bill croaked to prevent a takeover by Sean. Now that he's no longer needed (bill done & venzy coming), he is free to move on.
This actually makes a lot of sense.
Two...no five.Kill is making a big cash room move. That is getting overlooked.
Raises the oft-asked question: How many seizures per year would you be willing to suffer for $500K?
I mean, lay off the whip, Currie! :shakesfist:
https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/810953193333161984
I mean, lay off the whip, Currie! :shakesfist:
https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/810953193333161984
Currie said the same kind of nice things about Frank. Deb Patterson too.
If Bill cares in the least about his tribute video I've thought about making he needs to give me plenty of warning.
I don't know, I have no doubts that Kstate athletics is more inherently weird internally then most athletic departments.
So anything is on the table, but with that said I'm now leaning towards Kill just wanted to coach again and less towards the inherent weirdness of a building with John Currie and Snyder with offices near each other.
can someone break down the highlights of the snyder-currie civil war for me?
currie wanted to build cool crap at football stadium
what else?
I don't know, I have no doubts that Kstate athletics is more inherently weird internally then most athletic departments.
So anything is on the table, but with that said I'm now leaning towards Kill just wanted to coach again and less towards the inherent weirdness of a building with John Currie and Snyder with offices near each other.
Kill quit coaching because of his health. He's a lifelong coach and the Rutgers OC job pays 4x more than his current job. His new position is much more preferable to him for multiple reasons, health permitting. To think he's taking a new job that he feels is a risk to his health just to get away from Currie is ludicrous. If he just wanted to get away from Currie he could have got a similar job for similar pay at multiple other places.
This move would be based more on Kill escaping a negative situation more than it would him turning his back on K-State and his "word" to not coach again. He wants to be a Wildcat but someone has made that more challenging than he anticipated.
DJamer Wally dropped this bomb on GPC the other day.Quote from: GPCWallaceThis move would be based more on Kill escaping a negative situation more than it would him turning his back on K-State and his "word" to not coach again. He wants to be a Wildcat but someone has made that more challenging than he anticipated.
Isn't it a positive that Snyder hates Currie? Like, that's one of the things I like best about him.
Isn't it a positive that Snyder hates Currie? Like, that's one of the things I like best about him.
I'm not sure it's something I really like, but it's definitely endearing. Snyder apparently won't even go near him during church. CHURCH!
Very low energy feud, iyam. I mean, wake me up when a kid shoots the other's kid or a cousin shoots the other's cousin.
yeah, bill went from having zero oversight to having some. and he went from calling all the shots with regards to the football program to not calling all of them.the fact Currie has survived alienating the most important man in the history of the school in addition to running of Frank and replacing him with oscar is maybe his greatest professional achievement. I do wonder if Schulz ejecting has changed things.
rutgers just got hit with 7 sanctions....
Sounds like Jerry really killed the mood
Sounds like Jerry really killed the mood
Remember back in the day when jerry kill was just a name that would pop up here once or twice a year in an other games thread and there'd be a few jokes about his name and the event of the day?
I mean there is that whole not letting him turn the football program over to his first born son thing.
I mean there is that whole not letting him turn the football program over to his first born son thing.
There has been absolutely no indication that this was ever a possibility. It should be obvious to anyone with common sense that if Sean had a desire to be a head coach it would have happened by now.
I mean there is that whole not letting him turn the football program over to his first born son thing.
There has been absolutely no indication that this was ever a possibility. It should be obvious to anyone with common sense that if Sean had a desire to be a head coach it would have happened by now.
I mostly agree with you, but that's because I suspect that Sean doesn't REALLY want the job...like, he isn't willing to put a Ron binder together and really fight for the job. I do really think that Bill wants Sean to want the job, and I also do really think that Currie really does not want Sean to have the job, but that's merely speculation on my part.
I mean there is that whole not letting him turn the football program over to his first born son thing.
There has been absolutely no indication that this was ever a possibility. It should be obvious to anyone with common sense that if Sean had a desire to be a head coach it would have happened by now.
I mostly agree with you, but that's because I suspect that Sean doesn't REALLY want the job...like, he isn't willing to put a Ron binder together and really fight for the job. I do really think that Bill wants Sean to want the job, and I also do really think that Currie really does not want Sean to have the job, but that's merely speculation on my part.
If I were to speculate I would say that Sean's reluctance to coach may have something to do with Sean watching what being a head coach did to Bill the father. Did Bill and Sean's mom divorce after he became the head coach at K-State?
I mean there is that whole not letting him turn the football program over to his first born son thing.
There has been absolutely no indication that this was ever a possibility. It should be obvious to anyone with common sense that if Sean had a desire to be a head coach it would have happened by now.
I mostly agree with you, but that's because I suspect that Sean doesn't REALLY want the job...like, he isn't willing to put a Ron binder together and really fight for the job. I do really think that Bill wants Sean to want the job, and I also do really think that Currie really does not want Sean to have the job, but that's merely speculation on my part.
If I were to speculate I would say that Sean's reluctance to coach may have something to do with Sean watching what being a head coach did to Bill the father. Did Bill and Sean's mom divorce after he became the head coach at K-State?
Sean is sooooo millennial.
Sean is sooooo millennial.
gen xer. largely ignored by dad and now helicoptering at a birthday party one of his kids was invited to instead of just dropping off and picking up like a normal human.
Go there with the folks when I'm in town. Currie is there most times, Bill very rarely mainly on holidays. I have seen them interact briefly but bill leaves immediately after the service and Currie rubs shoulders.Isn't it a positive that Snyder hates Currie? Like, that's one of the things I like best about him.
I'm not sure it's something I really like, but it's definitely endearing. Snyder apparently won't even go near him during church. CHURCH!
Church feuds can be some serious stuff. Maybe we all have this wrong, and this thing is entirely a church feud? Any Manhattan area Presbyterian insiders out there?
Sean is sooooo millennial.
gen xer. largely ignored by dad and now helicoptering at a birthday party one of his kids was invited to instead of just dropping off and picking up like a normal human.
Some birthday parties are fun. One girl's grandpa dressed up like a pirate and gave us all rum drinks, and then we got to eat pizza and have cake with the kids.
I don't know about you, but I had a pretty good evening that night. I can be bought with cake, pizza, and rum.
Go there with the folks when I'm in town. Currie is there most times, Bill very rarely mainly on holidays. I have seen them interact briefly but bill leaves immediately after the service and Currie rubs shoulders.Isn't it a positive that Snyder hates Currie? Like, that's one of the things I like best about him.
I'm not sure it's something I really like, but it's definitely endearing. Snyder apparently won't even go near him during church. CHURCH!
Church feuds can be some serious stuff. Maybe we all have this wrong, and this thing is entirely a church feud? Any Manhattan area Presbyterian insiders out there?
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Go there with the folks when I'm in town. Currie is there most times, Bill very rarely mainly on holidays. I have seen them interact briefly but bill leaves immediately after the service and Currie rubs shoulders.
Shoulder rubs are so old fashion, and mainly are used by cattle now days. Modern folks are into butt rubs anyway.QuoteGo there with the folks when I'm in town. Currie is there most times, Bill very rarely mainly on holidays. I have seen them interact briefly but bill leaves immediately after the service and Currie rubs shoulders.
Are the shoulder rubs primarily on women, like Joe Biden does? If so, very creepy.
With the Joe Mixon video release, there is some outrage at Bobby Stoops for keeping Mixon on OU's squad. Would this make LHCBS re-think retirement if he knew Stoops would be available--I understand they are on excellent terms. Would Currie dare make the hire?
Here's something everyone should know about Joe Mixon and his propensities. This last October, he had illegally parked his car (a brand new Dodge Challenger)* in a parking lot for which he did not hold a permit. A traffic enforcement officer ticketed his car as a result, Mixon saw her and approached her saying: ""Don't put that shi*t in my face." He then tore up the ticket and threw it at her hitting her in the face. He then got in his car and according to the police report: "inched at the officer with vehicle in drive to intimidate the officer with vehicle." BTW, all he did was move his car to another adjoining parking lot which he also did not hold a parking permit for his car. *I'll let you figure out how a college student-athlete can afford a brand new decked-out Challeger without violating NCAA rules regarding impermissible benefits.