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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on November 21, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
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is an American trying to get out!!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-weighs-expanded-cia-training-arming-of-syrian-allies-struggling-against-assad/2014/11/14/227abfe4-6c17-11e4-9fb4-a622dae742a2_story.html
U.S. officials said their vetting efforts will focus on identifying recruits who are willing and motivated to fight the Islamic State, but they acknowledge that enforcing that agenda may prove difficult once the fighters leave CIA and U.S. military camps. :lol:
Hey Mr. Moderate Syrian Freedom Fighter, you horny for some ISIS blood or some Syrian Army Blood . . . and kittens, you like kittens right?
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What a crap show, but Orange Man Bad!
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:bwpopcorn:
but yeah bailing on the kurds is super shitty
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You didn’t give two shits about the Kurds until 2 days ago. Plus you’re leaving out the details of the Kurdish incursions into Turkey over the years.
Turkey has been attacking the Kurds since your guy was in office but strangely, nary a peep from Lick until now.
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thank you for exposing the double standards in every single post dax
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thank you for exposing the double standards in every single post dax
When resident LibBots finally admit that your guy created a complete crap show in Syria then we can talk about double standards. But you’re not capable of admitting that.
LOL at being pissed about Trump taking credit for rolling back ISIS, the true roll back of ISIS did not start until after he took office.
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You didn’t give two shits about the Kurds until 2 days ago. Plus you’re leaving out the details of the Kurdish incursions into Turkey over the years.
Turkey has been attacking the Kurds since your guy was in office but strangely, nary a peep from Lick until now.
Catalonia probably gets there first. I think the attempt at Federalized voter suppression hurt Spain's case in the court of public opinion globally.
Not sure if Catalon independence would make the path to independence harder or easier for the Basques.
Kurds probably deserve it first but have both Iran and Turkey working tirelessly against them
without further research my general recollection is that most of our support for regime change occurred prior to Russia's formal involvement
by the time Russia joined the fray it seemed we had moved more towards the balance of supporting the Kurds against DAESH and pacifying Turkey about this support
Dax what would be the preferred response in your opinion.
Honest question.
Leaning on the Kurds to beat ISIS and immediately bailing so Turkey can roll on them is shady af.
The Kurds have been a far more reliable as of late.
no real problem.
just hope we dont completely eff over the Kurds again.
any real victory over ISIS belongs to them
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thank you for exposing the double standards in every single post dax
When resident LibBots finally admit that your guy created a complete crap show in Syria then we can talk about double standards. But you’re not capable of admitting that.
LOL at being pissed about Trump taking credit for rolling back ISIS, the true roll back of ISIS did not start until after he took office.
who's my guy?
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thank you for exposing the double standards in every single post dax
When resident LibBots finally admit that your guy created a complete crap show in Syria then we can talk about double standards. But you’re not capable of admitting that.
LOL at being pissed about Trump taking credit for rolling back ISIS, the true roll back of ISIS did not start until after he took office.
who's my guy?
Your guy is always Obama. Even if he's not.
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You didn’t give two shits about the Kurds until 2 days ago. Plus you’re leaving out the details of the Kurdish incursions into Turkey over the years.
Turkey has been attacking the Kurds since your guy was in office but strangely, nary a peep from Lick until now.
Catalonia probably gets there first. I think the attempt at Federalized voter suppression hurt Spain's case in the court of public opinion globally.
Not sure if Catalon independence would make the path to independence harder or easier for the Basques.
Kurds probably deserve it first but have both Iran and Turkey working tirelessly against them
without further research my general recollection is that most of our support for regime change occurred prior to Russia's formal involvement
by the time Russia joined the fray it seemed we had moved more towards the balance of supporting the Kurds against DAESH and pacifying Turkey about this support
Dax what would be the preferred response in your opinion.
Honest question.
Leaning on the Kurds to beat ISIS and immediately bailing so Turkey can roll on them is shady af.
The Kurds have been a far more reliable as of late.
no real problem.
just hope we dont completely eff over the Kurds again.
any real victory over ISIS belongs to them
:bwpopcorn: :lol:
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Lick tapping out quicker than usual. Sad, but not surprising at all.
- Dax
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The Big Dummy, dumber than he was dumb yesterday. Sad. - dax
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Maybe the Kurds should agree to investigate Joe Biden.
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
Of course what Lick is leaving out is the fact that Turkey has been attacking the Kurds (with U.S. made weapons for years) dating well back to his guy being in office.
What Lick is also leaving out is the the YPG (PKK who is Banned in Turkey) has eyes on making part of Turkey their own, along with areas in Syria and Iraq. In that regard Turkey is acting no differently than another nation state of any merit would act. We're literally talking about a Ethnic/Political movement talking about making part of a NATO country their own net new sovereign country. Gosh, I just can't think of any time in history when the taking of territories in such a (similar) fashion have ever been the launching pad for a future armed conflict.
Another thing Lick is leaving out is the fact that thanks to Barry Obama (and our DOD, more on that little operation out of Croatia and Qatar later) is home to 2 million Syrian refugees, Turkey would like to re-patriot them in Syria.
#details
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
What a compliment.
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
What a compliment.
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Imagine the sting of getting owned by a guy with "2 liter bottle cap depth" intelligence :sdeek:
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
What a compliment.
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Imagine the sting of getting owned by a guy with "2 liter bottle cap depth" intelligence :sdeek:
I'm going to :lol: my ass off if you're still in the Dominican posting on this board.
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
Of course what Lick is leaving out is the fact that Turkey has been attacking the Kurds (with U.S. made weapons for years) dating well back to his guy being in office.
What Lick is also leaving out is the the YPG (PKK who is Banned in Turkey) has eyes on making part of Turkey their own, along with areas in Syria and Iraq. In that regard Turkey is acting no differently than another nation state of any merit would act. We're literally talking about a Ethnic/Political movement talking about making part of a NATO country their own net new sovereign country. Gosh, I just can't think of any time in history when the taking of territories in such a (similar) fashion have ever been the launching pad for a future armed conflict.
Another thing Lick is leaving out is the fact that thanks to Barry Obama (and our DOD, more on that little operation out of Croatia and Qatar later) is home to 2 million Syrian refugees, Turkey would like to re-patriot them in Syria.
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give me a break i have only cared about the issue for 2 days
seriously though everything you post above is accurate i wouldn't say i left it out but didn't see it relating to the issue at hand (us rough ridin' our only relaiable ally in the region.)
also you don't mention the numerous Turkish attempts to ethnically cleanse the Turkish population (a new version unfolding as we speak)
nor do you speak of the failure of the Treaty of Sevres (which promised and independent Kurdistan) and the creation of conflict borders that broke the Kurds up among 4 nations.
Ultimately I am not sure why current poicy does not favor the creation of an independent Kurdistan.
because it will anger Turkey?
- Erdogan is a bad actor and in no way has our interests at heart.
because it will anger Iraq?
- Iraq already has little control over the Kurdish autonomous region and has always struggled to control thepopulation (see Sadaam)
because it will anger Iran?
- I doubt this is troubling to us.
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
What a compliment.
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Imagine the sting of getting owned by a guy with "2 liter bottle cap depth" intelligence :sdeek:
I'm going to :lol: my ass off if you're still in the Dominican posting on this board.
Dax, you could be in Space and you wouldn't dare miss your daily meltdown(s) in The Pit.
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
What a compliment.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Imagine the sting of getting owned by a guy with "2 liter bottle cap depth" intelligence :sdeek:
I'm going to :lol: my ass off if you're still in the Dominican posting on this board.
Dax, you could be in Space and you wouldn't dare miss your daily meltdown(s) in The Pit.
Nothing even remotely tops the daily Orange Man Bad meltdowns which now span years.
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Hey good for Lick, I'll admit Lick has a 2 liter bottle cap depth of intelligence, unlike the rest.
Of course what Lick is leaving out is the fact that Turkey has been attacking the Kurds (with U.S. made weapons for years) dating well back to his guy being in office.
What Lick is also leaving out is the the YPG (PKK who is Banned in Turkey) has eyes on making part of Turkey their own, along with areas in Syria and Iraq. In that regard Turkey is acting no differently than another nation state of any merit would act. We're literally talking about a Ethnic/Political movement talking about making part of a NATO country their own net new sovereign country. Gosh, I just can't think of any time in history when the taking of territories in such a (similar) fashion have ever been the launching pad for a future armed conflict.
Another thing Lick is leaving out is the fact that thanks to Barry Obama (and our DOD, more on that little operation out of Croatia and Qatar later) is home to 2 million Syrian refugees, Turkey would like to re-patriot them in Syria.
#details
give me a break i have only cared about the issue for 2 days
seriously though everything you post above is accurate i wouldn't say i left it out but didn't see it relating to the issue at hand (us rough ridin' our only relaiable ally in the region.)
also you don't mention the numerous Turkish attempts to ethnically cleanse the Turkish population (a new version unfolding as we speak)
nor do you speak of the failure of the Treaty of Sevres (which promised and independent Kurdistan) and the creation of conflict borders that broke the Kurds up among 4 nations.
Ultimately I am not sure why current poicy does not favor the creation of an independent Kurdistan.
because it will anger Turkey?
- Erdogan is a bad actor and in no way has our interests at heart.
because it will anger Iraq?
- Iraq already has little control over the Kurdish autonomous region and has always struggled to control thepopulation (see Sadaam)
because it will anger Iran?
- I doubt this is troubling to us.
Well, I suppose we could back another coup attempt of Erd just like Obama did (dude loved regime change).
Turkey has said they're going to do what they're doing no matter what Washington said, so unless we're looking to go to war against another NATO country or once again immerse ourselves further in the area with more troops and no fly zones etc. etc. Which would once again place the United States on the hook for yet another endless commitment in the Middle East, it is what it is.
Unfortunately the Kurds kept poking the bear in Turkey and this is the result.
The United States, at least the CIA and DOD is still doing some extremely eff'd up things in the Middle East, including arming IS type factions in Syria and Yemen because they are/were fighting Iranian backed forces.
You also can't help but note that here's another NATO "partner"involved in a Balkanization effort. Sad
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1181940257056538625?s=20
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https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1181929592254283784?s=20
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Yes, let's go to war with Turkey over the Kurds.
Sounds like a very smart thing to do.
BTW embedded with the Kurds are a lot of not very good people, who were only fighting IS so as to carve out land so they could partition it for themselves.
But the drama queens don't pay attention to this kind of stuff.
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
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Maybe we should just ruin their economy instead?
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
You're creating a situation where one NATO partner is on the brink of war with another NATO partner. Aren't you the same guys who lose your $hit every time Trump talks about the other NATO members needing to step up their game, and how Trump is trying to break up NATO?
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
You're creating a situation where one NATO partner is on the brink of war with another NATO. Yet aren't you the same guys who lose your $hit every time Trump talks about the other NATO members needing to step up their game, and how Trump is trying to break up NATO?
Yeah, making sure Turkey doesn't bomb our allies is what would have created that situation. Turkey actually bombing them is perfectly fine.
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there also is this...
“I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump told Breitbart radio during his campaign. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers—two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two.”
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Of course they would. Only an absolute beta moron wouldn't agree
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Erdogan probably said something mean to Donald and scared him.
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Erdogan probably said something mean to Donald and scared him.
I think it is at least possible that Trump is projecting such weakness and impotence in an attempt to lull the rest of the world
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
By letting them know that we have soldiers in the region and that we will destroy them if they bomb our soldiers.
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Lol, you guys were less pissed (wait you weren’t pissed off at all) when your guy was giving the Russians the bombing coordinates to the thugs that we were actually shipping in and arming to take down Assad (in between beheading each other).
Now you want the US going to war with a NATO partner and 8 months ago you lost your mind because you thought Trump was trying to break up NATO.
Hilarious, but still sad.
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:Rusty:
Lol, you guys were less pissed (wait you weren’t pissed off at all) when your guy was giving the Russians the bombing coordinates to the thugs that we were actually shipping in and arming to take down Assad (in between beheading each other).
Now you want the US going to war with a NATO partner and 8 months ago you lost your mind because you thought Trump was trying to break up NATO.
Hilarious, but still sad.
You have a very simple mind.
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orange man good
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:Rusty:Lol, you guys were less pissed (wait you weren’t pissed off at all) when your guy was giving the Russians the bombing coordinates to the thugs that we were actually shipping in and arming to take down Assad (in between beheading each other).
Now you want the US going to war with a NATO partner and 8 months ago you lost your mind because you thought Trump was trying to break up NATO.
Hilarious, but still sad.
You have a very simple mind.
He is intentionally not understanding. I mean, four days ago we weren't on the brink of war with Turkey AND Turkey wasn't bombing the crap out of the Kurds.
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What has happened in the past week besides trump bending over?
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orange man good
Orange man infallible
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:Rusty:Lol, you guys were less pissed (wait you weren’t pissed off at all) when your guy was giving the Russians the bombing coordinates to the thugs that we were actually shipping in and arming to take down Assad (in between beheading each other).
Now you want the US going to war with a NATO partner and 8 months ago you lost your mind because you thought Trump was trying to break up NATO.
Hilarious, but still sad.
You have a very simple mind.
You're almost as bad as LibBot .9, you just threw crap at the wall hoping it sticks.
Enlighten me, Bucket, I can't wait.
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
Why are you acting like this is some insolvable problem when it was solved all the way up until this week when Trump served up our Kurdish allies to Turkey for nothing?
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
Why are you acting like this is some insolvable problem when it was solved all the way up until this week when Trump served up our Kurdish allies to Turkey for nothing?
What part of Turkey saying they were going to do what they're doing with our without U.S. approval confuses you?
The problem with the toe deep thinkers is that you think of the Kurds as the "Kurds" just one big unified body of people who collectively fought with the U.S., or really fought ISIS with U.S. help out of purely altruistic reasons, because they wanted to help ol Uncle Sam.
When in reality the "Kurds" are multiple groups, of which one has been classified as a terrorist organization. I also thought we'd already discussed how entities within the Kurdish collective were casting eyes on not only parts of Syria and Iraq but Turkey as well . . . did we not discuss that already?
It's a shitty position to be in . . . so there's a choice, put the U.S. military in the middle of a conflict involving a NATO member (likely pushing them into the Russian sphere farther, and remember, you guys hate hate hate the Russians).
Tell me which sovereign nation can you think of, particularly one like Turkey or of a higher economic and military status. Is just going to acquiesce to a political entity and allow them annex a part of a nation as their own? Not a "rogue province" not a separate political directorate, just flat out cutting off a chunk and saying in this case, that it's Kurdistan??
Not hard to understand.
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Is that why they are bombing Syria? To stop the occupiers inside of Turkey?
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To make room for the occupiers in Turkey.
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
Why are you acting like this is some insolvable problem when it was solved all the way up until this week when Trump served up our Kurdish allies to Turkey for nothing?
I'm sure we'll eventually find out what trump got for selling out allies.
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
Why are you acting like this is some insolvable problem when it was solved all the way up until this week when Trump served up our Kurdish allies to Turkey for nothing?
I'm sure we'll eventually find out what trump got for selling out allies.
Probably not going to top anything the Biden's got from the Ukaniane/Chinese/Countries to be name later, or the Clinton's got from the Russians/Chinese/Insert Name Here.
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Whatabout Hillary, drink!
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Whatabout Hillary, drink!
Like I keep saying, when she finally steps aside fully I'll quit mentioning her, BTW, still under investigation at the State Department.
Someday LibBot.9 will quit defending her(while trying to say he's not defending her)
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Back-to-back Hillary posts, shots!
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
Why are you acting like this is some insolvable problem when it was solved all the way up until this week when Trump served up our Kurdish allies to Turkey for nothing?
What part of Turkey saying they were going to do what they're doing with our without U.S. approval confuses you?
The problem with the toe deep thinkers is that you think of the Kurds as the "Kurds" just one big unified body of people who collectively fought with the U.S., or really fought ISIS with U.S. help out of purely altruistic reasons, because they wanted to help ol Uncle Sam.
When in reality the "Kurds" are multiple groups, of which one has been classified as a terrorist organization. I also thought we'd already discussed how entities within the Kurdish collective were casting eyes on not only parts of Syria and Iraq but Turkey as well . . . did we not discuss that already?
It's a shitty position to be in . . . so there's a choice, put the U.S. military in the middle of a conflict involving a NATO member (likely pushing them into the Russian sphere farther, and remember, you guys hate hate hate the Russians).
Tell me which sovereign nation can you think of, particularly one like Turkey or of a higher economic and military status. Is just going to acquiesce to a political entity and allow them annex a part of a nation as their own? Not a "rogue province" not a separate political directorate, just flat out cutting off a chunk and saying in this case, that it's Kurdistan??
Not hard to understand.
:blah: :lol: Say goodbye to any credibility you had left. This action is completely indefensible yet you're still trying. The status quo =d our allies being protected by a mere couple thousand troops. The literal second those troops were withdrawn Turkey started attacking the Kurds.
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I think Turkey would back down without going to war with us if we were to stop them from bombing the Kurds.
Just how are we going to "stop" them? By saying "Please" before we ask or are we're going to bomb the sh*t out of them if they don't? Oh I get it, we'll put sanctions on them. That'll do it. Can you say "hello Pres. Putin"?
Turkey knows we're not going to stop them. Wouldn't matter if it was the current President, the previous President or any of them prior to us getting the Turks to allow us to store nuclear weapons on their soil. We need them way more than we need the Kurds.
Have we learned nothing from the last 18 years? Arabs, Afghans, Kurds, Baluch, most Persians and generally any Middle East, South/South Central Asian muslim will be our friend if and when they need us. The Kurds will get mad but those that survive will be our friends again if they need us and we need them.
Why are you acting like this is some insolvable problem when it was solved all the way up until this week when Trump served up our Kurdish allies to Turkey for nothing?
What part of Turkey saying they were going to do what they're doing with our without U.S. approval confuses you?
The problem with the toe deep thinkers is that you think of the Kurds as the "Kurds" just one big unified body of people who collectively fought with the U.S., or really fought ISIS with U.S. help out of purely altruistic reasons, because they wanted to help ol Uncle Sam.
When in reality the "Kurds" are multiple groups, of which one has been classified as a terrorist organization. I also thought we'd already discussed how entities within the Kurdish collective were casting eyes on not only parts of Syria and Iraq but Turkey as well . . . did we not discuss that already?
It's a shitty position to be in . . . so there's a choice, put the U.S. military in the middle of a conflict involving a NATO member (likely pushing them into the Russian sphere farther, and remember, you guys hate hate hate the Russians).
Tell me which sovereign nation can you think of, particularly one like Turkey or of a higher economic and military status. Is just going to acquiesce to a political entity and allow them annex a part of a nation as their own? Not a "rogue province" not a separate political directorate, just flat out cutting off a chunk and saying in this case, that it's Kurdistan??
Not hard to understand.
:blah: :lol: Say goodbye to any credibility you had left. This action is completely indefensible yet you're still trying. The status quo =d our allies being protected by a mere couple thousand troops. The literal second those troops were withdrawn Turkey started attacking the Kurds.
Lol, credibility on this blog? LOL x 1000
This action has been discussed for months waks, yet the new WarHawks aka OrangeMan Bad act like it was just decided yesterday.
The only solution the arm chair WarHawks have means almost certain war with Turkey.
Then to listen to people like John McCain Jr acting like we’re pulling out of the Middle East entirely is just endemic of the perpetual war crowd.
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I am hearing really stupid people say that Turkey would have fought a war with the US over interrupting the status quo that they had been fine with for a decade or so.
Amazing, I know, but some very huge idiots have claimed this. Don't shoot the messenger.
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I am hearing really stupid people say that Turkey would have fought a war with the US over interrupting the status quo that they had been fine with for a decade or so.
Amazing, I know, but some very huge idiots have claimed this. Don't shoot the messenger.
Yes SlowDug, Turkey was so pleased with the Status Quo that under the watch of your guy, they launched a bunch of U.S. built fighter planes and said they were going to go attack ISIS, but then peeled a bunch of them off to go bomb the Kurds (just one example).
So pleased with the status quo Turkey banned the Kurdish Political party.
You're listening to some really smart one's.
What the really "smart" people and people like SlowDug never want to talk about is things like the 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey, and why they're in Turkey and whose dumb ass policies helped put those people in Turkey.
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Remember when erdogan visited the white house and then his security guys beat up a couple protesters and then trump was like "what's the big deal?" and then trump was like yeah they can assault whoever tf they want and then dax was like "yeah, trump rules!"?
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Remember when erdogan visited the white house and then his security guys beat up a couple protesters and then trump was like "what's the big deal?" and then trump was like yeah they can assault whoever tf they want and then dax was like "yeah, trump rules!"?
The worst part of all is the LibBot.9's of the world will absolutely lose their crap over a little shoving match, but won't say anything when their guy is invoking a policy that displaces as many as 8 million people from their homeland and kills upwards of a million more.
Expected, but still sad.
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I am hearing really stupid people say that Turkey would have fought a war with the US over interrupting the status quo that they had been fine with for a decade or so.
Amazing, I know, but some very huge idiots have claimed this. Don't shoot the messenger.
Yes SlowDug, Turkey was so pleased with the Status Quo that under the watch of your guy, they launched a bunch of U.S. built fighter planes and said they were going to go attack ISIS, but then peeled a bunch of them off to go bomb the Kurds (just one example).
So pleased with the status quo Turkey banned the Kurdish Political party.
You're listening to some really smart one's.
What the really "smart" people and people like SlowDug never want to talk about is things like the 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey, and why they're in Turkey and whose dumb ass policies helped put those people in Turkey.
like I said, the real dumb ones
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I am hearing really stupid people say that Turkey would have fought a war with the US over interrupting the status quo that they had been fine with for a decade or so.
Amazing, I know, but some very huge idiots have claimed this. Don't shoot the messenger.
Yes SlowDug, Turkey was so pleased with the Status Quo that under the watch of your guy, they launched a bunch of U.S. built fighter planes and said they were going to go attack ISIS, but then peeled a bunch of them off to go bomb the Kurds (just one example).
So pleased with the status quo Turkey banned the Kurdish Political party.
You're listening to some really smart one's.
What the really "smart" people and people like SlowDug never want to talk about is things like the 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey, and why they're in Turkey and whose dumb ass policies helped put those people in Turkey.
like I said, the real dumb ones
tapping out already?
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when you plant your flag on the "turkey would fight a conventional war against the united states and its allies over the kurds" hill you have already tapped out. Even the oldest of the olds knows that is not true
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when you plant your flag on the "turkey would fight a conventional war against the united states and its allies over the kurds" hill you have already tapped out. Even the oldest of the olds knows that is not true
When you constantly avoid admitting that Syria is a total clusterfuck because of your guys policies you know you tapped out years ago.
Then when you double down on proposing armed conflict between the United States and another NATO partner then you're truly tripling down on stupid.
Then throw on the "Trump is trying to destabilize NATO" meme of about a year ago and you truly understand that you're dealing with complete OrangeMan Bad Whack-A-Doo's.
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Dax, you're a special kind of dumbass.
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Dax, you're a special kind of dumbass.
You literally never say anything of substance, ever.
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when you plant your flag on the "turkey would fight a conventional war against the united states and its allies over the kurds" hill you have already tapped out. Even the oldest of the olds knows that is not true
When you constantly avoid admitting that Syria is a total clusterfuck because of your guys policies you know you tapped out years ago.
Then when you double down on proposing armed conflict between the United States and another NATO partner then you're truly tripling down on stupid.
Then throw on the "Trump is trying to destabilize NATO" meme of about a year ago and you truly understand that you're dealing with complete OrangeMan Bad Whack-A-Doo's.
the top rope tapout. Thank you. We can stop pretending that I am not completely right and that Turkey would never dare act against the US wishes and risk a war with the single most powerful military (and economy) that ever existed.
You don't have to admit that you are stupid and lacking in simple reasoning skills. I will accept the half hearted gurgling surrender.
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Dax, you're a special kind of dumbass.
You literally never say anything of substance, ever.
That's rich coming from the guy that repeats the same talking points and inane nicknames ad nauseam all over this board. But you do you, Dax. Keep deflecting away.
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when you plant your flag on the "turkey would fight a conventional war against the united states and its allies over the kurds" hill you have already tapped out. Even the oldest of the olds knows that is not true
When you constantly avoid admitting that Syria is a total clusterfuck because of your guys policies you know you tapped out years ago.
Then when you double down on proposing armed conflict between the United States and another NATO partner then you're truly tripling down on stupid.
Then throw on the "Trump is trying to destabilize NATO" meme of about a year ago and you truly understand that you're dealing with complete OrangeMan Bad Whack-A-Doo's.
the top rope tapout. Thank you. We can stop pretending that I am not completely right and that Turkey would never dare act against the US wishes and risk a war with the single most powerful military (and economy) that ever existed.
You don't have to admit that you are stupid and lacking in simple reasoning skills. I will accept the half hearted gurgling surrender.
It doesn't take any level of intelligence (well, at least above your level, but that goes with out saying) that a direct U.S. military threat to a fellow NATO member would be extremely controversial in its own right. In addition (and as I've discussed) I know full well that dummies like you and the rest of LibBot Nation would be immediately back on your dumb ass rants about Trump trying to break up NATO.
As I've said countless times, you never want to discuss the idiocy of why the United States is in Syria to begin with, and which administration ensured that Syria turned into a total disaster, and which administration ensured that the Iranians and Russians would get directly involved in Syria. You also at very adept at completely avoiding the decades long attempt by the Kurds (and their various factions) to annex part of Turkey as their own. Something that no NATO country would ever allow to happen or any other country for that matter.
SlowDugFlection gonna SlowDugFlection
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Dax, you're a special kind of dumbass.
You literally never say anything of substance, ever.
That's rich coming from the guy that repeats the same talking points and inane nicknames ad nauseam all over this board. But you do you, Dax. Keep deflecting away.
Actually I post a lot of details and people like you and the rest of the resident LibBots rarely if ever want to address them.
So again, we can start with who got us in the middle of this clusterfuck, any thoughts? Who ensured that the Russians and Iranians were directly involved? Who created the power vacuum in Syria that allowed the ISIS caliphate to expand? Who was shipping arms into Syria?
But don't worry resident LibBots, there's ample evidence that sadly the United States is still engaged with all kinds of bad guys in the Middle East to continue to prosecute the U.S.'s agenda. Including the recently unearthed information on JSOC's (and DOD non U.S. weapon acquisition program) operation "Smoking Gun" which is acquiring and shipping non U.S. made weapons out of Croatia on DOD contracted airliners into Syria and Yemen. So in that regard, nothing has really changed, which is pathetic and sad. In fact, JSOC is/was in Yemen helping Anti-Iranian forces who for all intent and purposes might as well be ISIS.
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when you plant your flag on the "turkey would fight a conventional war against the united states and its allies over the kurds" hill you have already tapped out. Even the oldest of the olds knows that is not true
When you constantly avoid admitting that Syria is a total clusterfuck because of your guys policies you know you tapped out years ago.
Then when you double down on proposing armed conflict between the United States and another NATO partner then you're truly tripling down on stupid.
Then throw on the "Trump is trying to destabilize NATO" meme of about a year ago and you truly understand that you're dealing with complete OrangeMan Bad Whack-A-Doo's.
the top rope tapout. Thank you. We can stop pretending that I am not completely right and that Turkey would never dare act against the US wishes and risk a war with the single most powerful military (and economy) that ever existed.
You don't have to admit that you are stupid and lacking in simple reasoning skills. I will accept the half hearted gurgling surrender.
It doesn't take any level of intelligence (well, at least above your level, but that goes with out saying) that a direct U.S. military threat to a fellow NATO member would be extremely controversial in its own right. In addition (and as I've discussed) I know full well that dummies like you and the rest of LibBot Nation would be immediately back on your dumb ass rants about Trump trying to break up NATO.
As I've said countless times, you never want to discuss the idiocy of why the United States is in Syria to begin with, and which administration ensured that Syria turned into a total disaster, and which administration ensured that the Iranians and Russians would get directly involved in Syria. You also at very adept at completely avoiding the decades long attempt by the Kurds (and their various factions) to annex part of Turkey as their own. Something that no NATO country would ever allow to happen or any other country for that matter.
SlowDugFlection gonna SlowDugFlection
You are like leatherface at the end of Texas chainsaw massacre. Just spinning out in blind rage
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when you plant your flag on the "turkey would fight a conventional war against the united states and its allies over the kurds" hill you have already tapped out. Even the oldest of the olds knows that is not true
When you constantly avoid admitting that Syria is a total clusterfuck because of your guys policies you know you tapped out years ago.
Then when you double down on proposing armed conflict between the United States and another NATO partner then you're truly tripling down on stupid.
Then throw on the "Trump is trying to destabilize NATO" meme of about a year ago and you truly understand that you're dealing with complete OrangeMan Bad Whack-A-Doo's.
the top rope tapout. Thank you. We can stop pretending that I am not completely right and that Turkey would never dare act against the US wishes and risk a war with the single most powerful military (and economy) that ever existed.
You don't have to admit that you are stupid and lacking in simple reasoning skills. I will accept the half hearted gurgling surrender.
It doesn't take any level of intelligence (well, at least above your level, but that goes with out saying) that a direct U.S. military threat to a fellow NATO member would be extremely controversial in its own right. In addition (and as I've discussed) I know full well that dummies like you and the rest of LibBot Nation would be immediately back on your dumb ass rants about Trump trying to break up NATO.
As I've said countless times, you never want to discuss the idiocy of why the United States is in Syria to begin with, and which administration ensured that Syria turned into a total disaster, and which administration ensured that the Iranians and Russians would get directly involved in Syria. You also at very adept at completely avoiding the decades long attempt by the Kurds (and their various factions) to annex part of Turkey as their own. Something that no NATO country would ever allow to happen or any other country for that matter.
SlowDugFlection gonna SlowDugFlection
You are like leatherface at the end of Texas chainsaw massacre. Just spinning out in blind rage
You just emote non specificity in every post.
Just too afraid to admit who got the US all wrapped up in this clusterfuck.
Sad.
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Oh man, who would have thought there'd be blowback from all the BS the United States was doing in Syria. It seems the primary leader of forces fighting for Turkey against the Kurds used to be Chief of Staff for the "Free Syrian Army" which was "created" during the Obama administration and backed by the United States. The FSA is now called the SNA, Syrian National Army and backed by . . . . Turkey.
BTW, the creation of things like the FSA is one of the reasons why Russia got directly involved in Syria.
Just couldn't have seen this coming, this movie has only been seen 5,000 times over the last 50 or 60 years.
John "War is the Answer" McCain poses with Gen Salim Idris:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.hurimg.com%2Fi%2Fhdn%2F75%2F0x0%2F59c7b7e545d2a027e83b0a20.jp&hash=4fac9fdaf632b4320884936f75ddcb1e879c1eb2)g
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America: party with us at your own risk.
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https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status/1183235290305044481
Take notice @sonofdaxjones
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Wow, imagine that, mixed messages in Washington DC, glad you finally figured that out Bucket. You've missed oh, the last dozen decades or so of that apparently.
In other news, lets just call this little snippet the realization that Europe/EU/NATO played a significant role, along with the United States in putting 3 million plus Syrian refugees in Turkey. The 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey and why they are there are something that resident LibBots and LibBots far and wide never want to talk about and avoid discussing at all costs (Thanks Obama).
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-eu-arms/eu-countries-stop-short-of-arms-embargo-for-turkey-idUSKBN1WT1KP
but stopped short of the EU-wide arms embargo that France and Germany had sought.
I doubt Greece and Italy are big fans of really pissing off Turkey and seeing that 3 million Syrian refugees headed their direction.
But it's so easy, just go to war with Turkey and that'll fix everything.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/kurdish-forces-strike-deal-damascus-moscow-repel-turkey-n1065636
Very good and very cool!!!
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Facilitating an ethnic cleansing, driving our allies to our adversaries, and generating an armed conflict between Russia and a NATO member.
Dax if Obama were to hand Russia such a tremendous policy win what name would you call him?
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Barry the Label Spy
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Facilitating an ethnic cleansing, driving our allies to our adversaries, and generating an armed conflict between Russia and a NATO member.
Dax if Obama were to hand Russia such a tremendous policy win what name would you call him?
:lol: :lol: First off Lick, you can address the 3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey issue for a change. Why are they there?
Next, let's ask what facilitating series of events years ago drove Putin and Russia to intervene directly on behalf of Assad?
Will you ever address the death and carnage that would have ensued had Assad fallen militarily? What part of a Middle East Balkans is difficult for you to understand?
Erdogan reiterated today that nothing was going to stop Turkey from doing what they're doing right now. So once again it appears that you're advocating for a direct military conflict with a NATO country that: Houses 3 million Syrian refugees. Houses several of the U.S.'s most important military bases in the region. Likely has U.S. nuclear weapons in country.
That fact that you and LibBot Nation continually try to extol a "Putin Victory" in light of the fact that Putin already won in Syria years ago is absolutely fascinating, yet still :lol:
A full LibBot 180 on Perpetual War is simply something that psychologists should be writing books on for years to come. Absolute derangement.
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Here is what a rep from the Foreign Policy Research Institute had to say about the Free Syrian Army, John McCain (and Obama's) favorite Syrian storm troopers:
“The main problem with these forces is their criminality,” said Elizabeth Tsurkov, a fellow at the U.S.-based Foreign Policy Research Institute who has interviewed dozens of the fighters and said they appear to be driven by a desire for power and money rather than by any specific ideology.
“Hatred of Kurds, a sense of Arab chauvinism, complete intolerance for any dissent, and just a desire to make a profit is what’s driving most of the abuses,” she said.
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2019/10/15/money-hatred-for-the-kurds-drives-turkeys-syrian-fighters/
Do you guys even pay any attention to some of your favorite publications?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/on-the-good-guys-in-syria_b_5812728
Also last September, Mr. Mcain was challenged on Syria by investigative journalist Christopher Greene of AMtv. The reporter asked, “”Senator Ted Cruz said yesterday out of Texas that we should not act as al-Qaeda’s air force. The al-Nusra Front is fighting alongside the Free Syrian Army which is directly linked to al-Qaeda. Why was the United States fighting against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, but now fighting alongside them in Syria?”
Trump ended support of the FSA:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa/syrian-rebel-delegation-in-washington-seeking-revival-of-cia-aid-idUSKBN1F41ZV
The FSA delegation, Sejari said, included recipients of the CIA-led program, which began in 2013 and funneled, via Jordan and Turkey, weapons, cash and trainers to vetted FSA groups fighting Syrian President Bashar al Assad.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/world/middleeast/cia-arming-syrian-rebels.html
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Just sad to see people from the Pentagon whining about the Kurds when it is the DOD who steadfastly refuses to unhook itself from its military bases in Turkey. Incirlik is essentially the centerpiece of US air operations in Central Asia. The US also has naval bases in Turkey. Yeah . . .
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https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1184489293315751938?s=20
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Trump probably day dreams regularly of playing in that much sand.
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Sadly LibBot-NeoCons think that sand is worth American's dying over.
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https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1184520982205210625?s=21
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The president, Papa "Front Runner" Trump, is a rough ridin' moron
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1184571691504148482
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I want to LOL but it’s just too sad.
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That's funny.
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I'm just looking forward to the next 3rd hand "whistle blower" to come forward and tell us about the next call between Trump and Erd's.
Adam "I've got hard evidence" Schiff needs another one to collude (then lie about) with.
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Daxflection!
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i can't even laugh at Papa "Front Runner" Trump on this one, feels bad
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Daxflection!
Drink!
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It's sad to see so many LibBots upset that the previous administrations war on secular oriented Islamic regimes failed in Egypt, Turkey and now Syria.
You'll always have Libya for the mantle, tho
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I’m actually impressed he used sentences and paragraphs.
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https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1184588211257040901
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Bigger meltdown over 72 hours in Syria that was going to happen no matter what the U.S. did, than 6 years of dumbass policies that lead to hundreds of thousands dead and millions of refugees.
All those refugees are causing LibBot's beloved EU to only have the power of a couple of additional exclamation points on their default sternly written letters, in this case, addressed to Erdo.
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Bigger meltdown over 72 hours in Syria that was going to happen no matter what the U.S. did
Why do you say things that you know aren't true?
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Bigger meltdown over 72 hours in Syria that was going to happen no matter what the U.S. did
Why do you say things that you know aren't true?
It is absolutely true and you know it.
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Bigger meltdown over 72 hours in Syria that was going to happen no matter what the U.S. did, than 6 years of dumbass policies that lead to hundreds of thousands dead and millions of refugees.
All those refugees are causing LibBot's beloved EU to only have the power of a couple of additional exclamation points on their default sternly written letters, in this case, addressed to Erdo.
No comment on Papa "Front Runner" Trump's exclamation point filled sternly written letter addressed to erdo?
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Bigger meltdown over 72 hours in Syria that was going to happen no matter what the U.S. did, than 6 years of dumbass policies that lead to hundreds of thousands dead and millions of refugees.
All those refugees are causing LibBot's beloved EU to only have the power of a couple of additional exclamation points on their default sternly written letters, in this case, addressed to Erdo.
No comment on Papa "Front Runner" Trump's exclamation point filled sternly written letter addressed to erdo?
Hillary's emails!
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Bigger meltdown over 72 hours in Syria that was going to happen no matter what the U.S. did, than 6 years of dumbass policies that lead to hundreds of thousands dead and millions of refugees.
All those refugees are causing LibBot's beloved EU to only have the power of a couple of additional exclamation points on their default sternly written letters, in this case, addressed to Erdo.
No comment on Papa "Front Runner" Trump's exclamation point filled sternly written letter addressed to erdo?
We had real skin in the game, otherwise it's been a little bombing here and a little bombing there from the Euro's. The French did some bombing after some attacks in their country. Not the least bit surprising you don't see the difference.
Just a shame you guys didn't bother to speak up about Syria 6 or 7 years ago.
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So nothing but daxflection?
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So nothing but daxflection?
So you wanted to go to war with Turkey, then?
Oh wait wait, this is LibBot.9's attempt to try and get me to talk about the substance of some letter, and as usual avoid any and all discussion about which Lib Hero helped destroy Syria.
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More daxflection
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More daxflection
LibBot.9 Notes: Have recommended total termination of project and reallocation of human and financial resources elsewhere
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More daxflection
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It's hilarious that Dax is quite possibly the only person on this entire rough ridin' planet that doesn't understand this. I knew the dude had stamina but to keep driving into the ground the false narrative that Turkey would have done what they're doing now regardless of whether or not we kept our troops in Syria is truly remarkable. We get it, man. US policy has been crap in the Middle East for half a century. Quit being dishonest about what is happening right now.
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It's hilarious that Dax is quite possibly the only person on this entire rough ridin' planet that doesn't understand this. I knew the dude had stamina but to keep driving into the ground the false narrative that Turkey would have done what they're doing now regardless of whether or not we kept our troops in Syria is truly remarkable. We get it, man. US policy has been crap in the Middle East for half a century. Quit being dishonest about what is happening right now.
Rather than listen to idiots on the Internet like you, I read and listen to the actual words coming out of the mouths of the leaders of Turkey. Who BTW reaffirmed yet again today that literally none of the threats from any outside source matter to them. This operation was going forward no matter what was done to try and stop it.
It's just :lol: to think that the U.S. or any other NATO country was going to do anything militarily to stop Turkey.
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You read and post tweets from morons like Jacob Wohl and Charlie Kirk, dude. You listen to idiots on the internet all the time. It's laughable to suggest that Turkey was going to harm US soldiers in Syria. None of this was going to happen until Trump ordered the withdraw of our forces. I can't tell if you're being dishonest or delusional. I'm beginning to think it's the latter.
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You read and post tweets from morons like Jacob Wohl and Charlie Kirk, dude. You listen to idiots on the internet all the time. It's laughable to suggest that Turkey was going to harm US soldiers in Syria. None of this was going to happen until Trump ordered the withdraw of our forces. I can't tell if you're being dishonest or delusional. I'm beginning to think it's the latter.
They started the operation before the U.S. troops had completely left. Your whole shtick is driven by one thing: OrangeMan Bad
Nice tap out with Wohl and Kirk comments, like maybe one time. While you guys find derp after derp to put up on here only because they have one unifying factor: OrangeMan Bad :lol:
What you should be asking yourself is why did your guy overthrow or want to overthrow nearly every remaining secular leaning Muslim government in the Middle East.
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They started the operation when Trump announced he was withdrawing the troops. I mean, for eff's sake, Dax, the House voted 354-60 to condemn the withdrawal. Your OrangeMan Bad narrative is bullshit.
Nice tap out with Wohl and Kirk comments, like maybe one time. While you guys find derp after derp to put up on here only because they have one unifying factor: OrangeMan Bad :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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They started the operation when Trump announced he was withdrawing the troops. I mean, for eff's sake, Dax, the House voted 354-60 to condemn the withdrawal. Your OrangeMan Bad narrative is bullshit.
Nice tap out with Wohl and Kirk comments, like maybe one time. While you guys find derp after derp to put up on here only because they have one unifying factor: OrangeMan Bad :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
One one side you have people who will hate everything that Trump does, and on the other side you have idiots who just can't stand the fact that the U.S. may be getting out of a place that the United States should have never been to begin with. They're relics of a bygone era who only know perpetual war and still think that somehow the Domino Theory is still in play. Only idiots (like you) don't understand that.
The point still stands, you guys find derp after whack-a-doo derp to reference on here only because of one thing: OrangeMan Bad
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They started the operation when Trump announced he was withdrawing the troops. I mean, for eff's sake, Dax, the House voted 354-60 to condemn the withdrawal. Your OrangeMan Bad narrative is bullshit.
Nice tap out with Wohl and Kirk comments, like maybe one time. While you guys find derp after derp to put up on here only because they have one unifying factor: OrangeMan Bad :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
One one side you have people who will hate everything that Trump does, and on the other side you have idiots who just can't stand the fact that the U.S. may be getting out of a place that the United States should have never been to begin with. They're relics of a bygone era who only know perpetual war and still think that somehow the Domino Theory is still in play. Only idiots (like you) don't understand that.
The point still stands, you guys find derp after whack-a-doo derp to reference on here only because of one thing: OrangeMan Bad
So Dax and Trump are the only two people on the planet that are with it. Noted. It's a waste of time debating with you, you're so far up your own ass.
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They started the operation when Trump announced he was withdrawing the troops. I mean, for eff's sake, Dax, the House voted 354-60 to condemn the withdrawal. Your OrangeMan Bad narrative is bullshit.
Nice tap out with Wohl and Kirk comments, like maybe one time. While you guys find derp after derp to put up on here only because they have one unifying factor: OrangeMan Bad :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
One one side you have people who will hate everything that Trump does, and on the other side you have idiots who just can't stand the fact that the U.S. may be getting out of a place that the United States should have never been to begin with. They're relics of a bygone era who only know perpetual war and still think that somehow the Domino Theory is still in play. Only idiots (like you) don't understand that.
The point still stands, you guys find derp after whack-a-doo derp to reference on here only because of one thing: OrangeMan Bad
So Dax and Trump are the only two people on the planet that are with it. Noted. It's a waste of time debating with you, you're so far up your own ass.
Only true dumbasses or those completely indoctrinated in this weird new temporary amalgamation of the Libbots and the Military Complex actually believe anything besides a massive ramp up of a U.S. military presence was going to stop Turkey.
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I think keeping 4 or 5 US soldiers there would have been enough to stop Turkey.
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I think keeping 4 or 5 US soldiers there would have been enough to stop Turkey.
So does every single other non-dipshit
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I wonder why those liars at the Pentagon were saying that Turkey was "deliberately" firing at U.S. military positions in Syria?
Weird, I guess those U.S. commandos "temporarily withdrew from their posts" for no apparent reason.
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And while Pence said the US did not support the Turkish military offensive, Trump enabled the Turks to enter Syria Sunday when he ordered US troops in Northern Syria to pull out of the region.
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546 (https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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And while Pence said the US did not support the Turkish military offensive, Trump enabled the Turks to enter Syria Sunday when he ordered US troops in Northern Syria to pull out of the region.
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546 (https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Weird, why not quote that?
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Here comes the :curse: over the ceasefire because Turkey still did what they said they were going to do all along no matter what.
But the arm chair military experts still want that war with Turkey. Sad
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And while Pence said the US did not support the Turkish military offensive, Trump enabled the Turks to enter Syria Sunday when he ordered US troops in Northern Syria to pull out of the region.
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546 (https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Weird, why not quote that?
Suddenly you're concerned about sourcing? That's cute. The Daxpocricy knows no bounds.
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First a link for the LibBot and Fake Centerist Source Pearl Clutchers in residence:
https://www.almasdarnews.com/about/
Since LibBot-NeoCon Nation has done a complete 180 because OrangeMan: Bad, and now fully supports perpetual war and even advocates going to war with a NATO partner. You blood thirsty WhackJobs will be pleased as hell to know that not only is the oil for your SUV's being protected by your U.S. military, but they are also making sure that Ir "Billions dumped on the Tarmac" an won't be getting their hands on it, at least not in the near future. I'm sure Lindsey "new McCain" Graham will be running around trying to say we lost the Middle East never-the-less.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-military-unlikely-to-withdraw-from-eastern-syria-and-its-oil-fields/
It should also be noted that the Russians were saying as of this last July. That the US is not only arming rebels in Syria, but stealing this oil. But we've given the whole Middle East to the Russians according to the LibBot-NeoCons, so :frown:
But on the flipside, it has to make you LibBot NeoCons just fist pump like crazy knowing these resources are being kept from the people of war torn (thanks Obama) Syria.
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And while Pence said the US did not support the Turkish military offensive, Trump enabled the Turks to enter Syria Sunday when he ordered US troops in Northern Syria to pull out of the region.
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546 (https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/h_34c6d751379a39242454331381076546)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Weird, why not quote that?
Suddenly you're concerned about sourcing? That's cute. The Daxpocricy knows no bounds.
Sourcing? I said something about the source?
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https://apnews.com/99d30a47a73f41f089e7ee4678c4ba2a
May?
Rest easy resident Lib hegemonists, they never were going to fully leave Syria.
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so in review we betrayed our allies and allowed them to be slaughtered with little to no warning
vacated the region and allowed 100's of ISIS combatants to escape
and created a power vacuum that Russia immediately stepped into
inflating their physical and geo-political footprint in the region and strengtheing ties with our NATO ally
all while not really leaving the country and bragging about stealing the oil
ready to hear the 4D aspects of this move
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Russian combat forces in country since 2015-Check
Russian naval base in Syria for years and years already-Check
Never should have been in Syria to begin with-Check
Avoided an unprecedented military conflict with a NATO partner-Check
U.S. still with forces in place covering and controlling Syrian oil fields keeping them out of Iranian and Russian hands-Check
Previous administration absurd over reliance on proxies to fight ISIS-exposed
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When will the services be for the slaughtered Kurds, I definitely want to pay my respects.
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fox news tells me that when we moved our 1k of our deployed soldiers, 1k isis affiliated members were allowed to go free. is this a positive or negative for the US?
https://www.foxnews.com/world/syria-isis-supporters-escape-camp-kurds
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I can't believe you bring up isis at this time, Kurds were slaughtered man.....
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I can't believe you bring up isis at this time, Kurds were slaughtered man.....
was it good or bad? i can't tell from your response.
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lol
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Russian combat forces in country since 2015-Check
Russian naval base in Syria for years and years already-Check
Never should have been in Syria to begin with-Check
Avoided an unprecedented military conflict with a NATO partner-Check
U.S. still with forces in place covering and controlling Syrian oil fields keeping them out of Iranian and Russian hands-Check
Previous administration absurd over reliance on proxies to fight ISIS-exposed
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-troops-humiliated-abandoned-bases-syria-russians-2019-10
so like a to own the libs type thing
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I can't believe you bring up isis at this time, Kurds were slaughtered man.....
i guess i am not sure of the intent of this post
is it to make light of the attrocities committed against fleeing civilians or something else
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Russian combat forces in country since 2015-Check
Russian naval base in Syria for years and years already-Check
Never should have been in Syria to begin with-Check
Avoided an unprecedented military conflict with a NATO partner-Check
U.S. still with forces in place covering and controlling Syrian oil fields keeping them out of Iranian and Russian hands-Check
Previous administration absurd over reliance on proxies to fight ISIS-exposed
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-troops-humiliated-abandoned-bases-syria-russians-2019-10
so like a to own the libs type thing
what is the incel talking point to explain this retreat?
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
That is the worst incel talking point I have ever seen.
Where was the oil 2 weeks ago?
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
That is the worst incel talking point I have ever seen.
Where was the oil 2 weeks ago?
LOL, another typical Slow Dug tapout.
Just admit you're about 4 laps down (as usual) and move along.
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
That is the worst incel talking point I have ever seen.
Where was the oil 2 weeks ago?
LOL, another typical Slow Dug tapout.
Just admit you're about 4 laps down (as usual) and move along.
incels are such pushovers
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
That is the worst incel talking point I have ever seen.
Where was the oil 2 weeks ago?
LOL, another typical Slow Dug tapout.
Just admit you're about 4 laps down (as usual) and move along.
incels are such pushovers
Translation: I don't know anything, I just won't admit it
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that's some legit bone spur incel rage
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that's some legit bone spur incel rage
The SlowDug go to is beyond sad.
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
how is any of this positive either in the short or long terms
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imagine being a Russian getting to party in a nice American base. Do you think Putin will visit and go party nuts with his victorious soldiers?
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imagine being a Russian getting to party in a nice American base. Do you think Putin will visit and go party nuts with his victorious soldiers?
Nice? :lol: You mean the bombed out remnants of some tiny little buldings?
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so in review we betrayed our allies and allowed them to be slaughtered with little to no warning
vacated the region and allowed 100's of ISIS combatants to escape
and created a power vacuum that Russia immediately stepped into
inflating their physical and geo-political footprint in the region and strengtheing ties with our NATO ally
all while not really leaving the country and bragging about stealing the oil
ready to hear the 4D aspects of this move
Imagine being such a moron you are defending our actions here. A special level of delusion and idiocy.
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imagine being a Russian getting to party in a nice American base. Do you think Putin will visit and go party nuts with his victorious soldiers?
Nice? :lol: You mean the bombed out remnants of some tiny little buldings?
They are Russians you rube. an outhouse is luxury to them.
Lol at dax who obviously never travels
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
how is any of this positive either in the short or long terms
It's positive in the sense that U.S. troops are out of the middle of a conflict that has been going on for decades between Turkey and the Kurds. If the Kurds had just left well enough alone this probably wouldn't have happened but elements within the Kurdish movement still aspire to annex and control parts of Turkey.
The fact that LibBot Nation is freaking out because Russia sorta controls a sliver of sand inside the borders of it's long term ally Syria (a sovereign nation, remember?) is comical on every possibly level.
Also, just continue to gloss over the 3.5 million Syrians displaced into Turkey.
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imagine being a Russian getting to party in a nice American base. Do you think Putin will visit and go party nuts with his victorious soldiers?
Nice? :lol: You mean the bombed out remnants of some tiny little buldings?
They are Russians you rube. an outhouse is luxury to them.
Lol at dax who obviously never travels
Tapouts are coming with a flurry
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retreating faster than trump
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imagine being a Russian getting to party in a nice American base. Do you think Putin will visit and go party nuts with his victorious soldiers?
Nice? :lol: You mean the bombed out remnants of some tiny little buldings?
They are Russians you rube. an outhouse is luxury to them.
Lol at dax who obviously never travels
Comrade, look! Indoor plumbing :love:
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imagine being a Russian getting to party in a nice American base. Do you think Putin will visit and go party nuts with his victorious soldiers?
Nice? :lol: You mean the bombed out remnants of some tiny little buldings?
They are Russians you rube. an outhouse is luxury to them.
Lol at dax who obviously never travels
Comrade, look! Indoor plumbing :love:
a rarity in Russia and alabama
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You can't put Camero in CameroHead without Missouri and Kansas coming together.
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
how is any of this positive either in the short or long terms
It's positive in the sense that U.S. troops are out of the middle of a conflict that has been going on for decades between Turkey and the Kurds. If the Kurds had just left well enough alone this probably wouldn't have happened but elements within the Kurdish movement still aspire to annex and control parts of Turkey.
The fact that LibBot Nation is freaking out because Russia sorta controls a sliver of sand inside the borders of it's long term ally Syria (a sovereign nation, remember?) is comical on every possibly level.
Also, just continue to gloss over the 3.5 million Syrians displaced into Turkey.
Imaging for a moment how your response would have been different had a Dem been in charge of such a well thought out foreign policy initiative.
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They're covering your oil Slow Dug, keeping the Russians and Iranians away from it.
You should be fist pumping your ass off, but instead you just choose to be dumb, as usual.
Sad
how is any of this positive either in the short or long terms
It's positive in the sense that U.S. troops are out of the middle of a conflict that has been going on for decades between Turkey and the Kurds. If the Kurds had just left well enough alone this probably wouldn't have happened but elements within the Kurdish movement still aspire to annex and control parts of Turkey.
The fact that LibBot Nation is freaking out because Russia sorta controls a sliver of sand inside the borders of it's long term ally Syria (a sovereign nation, remember?) is comical on every possibly level.
Also, just continue to gloss over the 3.5 million Syrians displaced into Turkey.
Imaging for a moment how your response would have been different had a Dem been in charge of such a well thought out foreign policy initiative.
Imagining for a moment when LibBot Nation will actually admit that the U.S. had no business being in Syria and also admitting that because the U.S. got involved in Syria, the previous administration outsourced the fight against ISIS (because ISIS expanding in the vacuum the U.S. helped create) that eventually lead to the current situation.
But that's never-ever going to happen.
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i do not necessarily disagree
but that logic carried out has us drop all ties and support to the region
which is not exactly a conservative position
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You can't put Camero in CameroHead without Missouri and Kansas coming together.
holy crap
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Enabling War Crimes to happen to own the libs.
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Enabling War Crimes to happen to own the libs.
Lol, war crimes? A dude who fully supported an administration that overthrew governments for no reason is now talking war crimes.
SMDH
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Don’t worry war mongering resident LibBots.
The US is still goin tactical all over the Middle East. Buy another pair of wraparounds.
?https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-weighs-leaving-more-troops-sending-battle-tanks-to-syria-11571958019 via ?
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Don’t worry war mongering resident LibBots.
The US is still goin tactical all over the Middle East. Buy another pair of wraparounds.
?https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-weighs-leaving-more-troops-sending-battle-tanks-to-syria-11571958019 via ?
computers are hard
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Don’t worry war mongering resident LibBots.
The US is still goin tactical all over the Middle East. Buy another pair of wraparounds.
?https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-weighs-leaving-more-troops-sending-battle-tanks-to-syria-11571958019 via ?
computers are hard
TapaTalk
Figured your jimmies would be all rustled thinking about all those M1's rolling around in the sand in Syria.
But, the flurry of tapouts continue from SlowDug
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old man, hates computers because they censor true conservative thots
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old man, hates computers because they censor true conservative thots
It's a concentrated DDOS storm of tapouts from SlowDug, mods, please block the port marked "SlowDug" and review firewall policies.
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You must really be pissed off at trump now dax
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You must really be pissed off at trump now dax
It's ridiculous to even be in country. But LibBot Nation should be fistpumping their asses off . . . congrats, LibDork.9, the U.S. is still a hegemonic power.
The Trump is a Russian Asset meme will now pause for 10 . . . 9 . . . 8
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So yes or no on you being really ticked off at trump?
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TeCHnolOgy hARd, mAKe me Mad
tRuMP 2o20
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TeCHnolOgy hARd, mAKe me Mad
tRuMP 2o20
Mods, can it be determined if the SlowDug DDOS attack of tapouts is coming from a domestic cloud services provider?
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So yes or no on you being really ticked off at trump?
Pretty ticked off.
As for you, post video of your fist pumping at this news. 'Merica and all that
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Pretty ticked off, but you are more concerned about the libderp reaction you have created in your head...
Very interesting
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Pretty ticked off, but you are more concerned about the libderp reaction you have created in your head...
Very interesting
Concerned? Or just once again in awe of the sell out of ideals because OrangeMan bad?
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Either way it's still just nonsense you've made up in your head.
Fascinating tbh
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Either way it's still just nonsense you've made up in your head.
Fascinating tbh
I know in your stupid little head you think I’m just talking about you.
All you have to do is go out and look at the various meltdowns, and on here as well.
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Ok grandpa, lol
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Ok grandpa, lol
That was easy.
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Do something fun this weekend Dax. You seem like you need to unwind a bit.
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Man why is Russia so mad at their puppet Trump? Casting doubt on the raid, super pissed off that the US is still in country. Really super pissed they can’t get that oil.
Weird
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(https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/k24oil_0.jpg?itok=XMH3TdtP)
Let's see: Perpetually enraged about everything LibBot Nation was mad about "abandoning the Kurds". While our forces stay to make sure Assad doesn't do anything to the Kurds.
Perpetually enraged about everything LibBot Nation was mad about the Russians taking over. But our forces stay to to keep the oil from the Iranians and Russians.
Perpetually enraged about everything LibBot Nation is now mad because the U.S. controls the oil.
SMDH
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/29/greece-turkey-standoff-france-send-warships-east-mediterranean
Oh man imagine a world where the French stand up to a NATO Ally while we get mumped by the same Ally...
what a world
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/29/greece-turkey-standoff-france-send-warships-east-mediterranean
Oh man imagine a world where the French stand up to a NATO Ally while we get mumped by the same Ally...
what a world
You’re such an amazing dumbass. You’re comparing this to fighting against a NATO ally in a rough ridin' country we have no business being in to begin with.
You were talking about straw men earlier? LOL.
France: We’ll be there if it looks like they’ll be a lot of talking . . . We might shoot at some people if you blow up enough bombs in our country.
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In the Obama proxy war that just keeps on giving news: Turkey loosening the strings on Syrian refugees and many are boarding boats headed to Europe.
Perfect time for uncontrolled migration
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The endgame is upon us:
?https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/world/europe/turkey-refugees-Geece-erdogan.html?
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Congrats Barry, Hillary and Leon:
https://news.trust.org/item/20200229124626-vkh6s
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Yah suffering!!
https://twitter.com/joel_rayburn/status/1363255376557277190?s=21
Just think. The Russians and Euro partners offered to broker Assad stepping down and Hillary, Joe and Barrack said no.
(Input Kerry and Pelosi rubbing shoulders with Assad here. Note to near 3 world countries. Do not accept meetings and praise from these people. They’ll be bombing you within 6 months).
Russians warn of pending chemical attack in Syria.