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8manpick’s OFFICIAL list of top bands from the 90’s

by 8manpick


I only considered music that was released in the 90’s, and it was heavily weighted towards bands with good CDs (<--90's music storage/playback device). Even today I prefer to listen to whole albums rather than songs because that's just what I like. As such, bands whose CDs I don't listen to, I didn't really consider even if I think they have some good songs (Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Live, etc.) I picked the fifteen bands I liked best, listed their CDs, then ranked the CDs in order of my preference. Then I used math to come up with a score to rank all the bands based on how much I liked their CDs. Then I said fuck math, and ranked those bands however the fuck I felt like it.

Honorable Mention:

–The Lemonheads: Evan Dando is great. If you have only heard their cover of “Mrs. Robinson”, go listen to the rest of It’s a Shame About Ray.

–Rage Against the Machine: So much anger, so much guitar.

–Alice in Chains: Jar of Flies is a great EP. Layne and Jerry’s haunting harmonies were something special. Second best MTV Unplugged performance.

–Bush: Sixteen Stone is so good. Unfortunately the rest of their stuff is incredibly meh.


–Incubus: I really like S.C.I.E.N.C.E and Make Yourself. If the list was 1995-2004, they would definitely make it.

#10. Elliott Smith
Such sad but beautiful music. May he rest in peace. My favorite CD of his is his self-titled, and my favorite song is Say Yes.

#9. John Frusciante
Would be in my top three favorites all-time but the only good music he put out in the 90’s was the double CD Niandra Lades / Usually Just a T-Shirt. His music is strange, complex and raw. It’s weird but I love it.

#8. Foo Fighters
The Colour and the Shape is great. There is some great stuff on the self-titled as well.

#7. Green Day
Hate all you want on current Green Day, but you all loved 90’s Green Day unless you were an old balls loser or a too cool for fun musicer. Either way, if you haven’t listened to 1039 / Smoothed out Slappy Hours, it is an interesting change of pace from their radio music.

#6. The Offspring
Four CDs in the 90’s, I like all of them. Americana was the first CD I bought for myself. Try Staring at the Sun.

#5. Weezer
Their two CDs in the 90’s are completely different but Weezer (Blue Album) and Pinkerton are both classics.

#4. Sublime
Some people don’t like them. I don’t know why. Their songs can be fun and silly or dark and emotional. It’s not all “Date Rape” and “Wrong Way” but those are pretty good songs anyway. Wish I’d gotten a chance to see Bradley live. I really like S.T.P. Pool Shark is great too.

#3. Radiohead
Probably the “best” band on this list. Three CDs in the 90s. OK Computer is incredible and The Bends and Pablo Honey are both excellent. All wildly different.

#2. Third Eye Blind
Haters gon’ hate, but front to back, their self-titled album is incredibly good, and Blue is great too. God of Wine and Wounded are my favorite songs by them.

**They will be in KC on the night before Thanksgiving, buy a ticket and come binge with gE’s #1 binger!**

#1. Red Hot Chili Peppers
There was never any doubt. This is my favorite live recording I’ve ever seen of any song by anyone.

Bonus maths (8manalysis)

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Stevesie60’s FTSOAT

T-Y to Stevesie60

As the late, great Gene Simmons once said, “You wanted the list? You got the list.” The long-awaited Stevesie60’s Favorite Ten Songs Of All Time. Do NOT go straight to the bottom. The floor is yours, Stevesie.

Keep in mind this is a list of songs based on favorites, not best. So you can argue all you want, but you’re wrong.

10. Coming in hard at #10; Dissonance and tempo changes together form perfect beauty – Chiodos’ “All Nereids Beware.”

9. Taking things down a notch, I have Miike Snow at #9 with “Silvia.” I’ve never heard desperation summed up so well.

8. Billy Corgan’s voice and violins somehow mix together perfectly. “Tonight, Tonight” by Smashing Pumpkins

(Alternate version suggested by nicname)

7. The perfect build-up. 10 cool points if you’ve heard it before. “Midwestern Dirt” by Dear and the Headlights.

6. The best song of the past 5 years is at #6. “Itchin’ on a Photograph” by Grouplove.

5. I honestly believe this album changed the course of alternative when it came out. It used back-up vocals as instruments, something no one had seen (heard) done before but a trend that has continued since. Not to mention how prominent the style was immediately after “Tell All Your Friends” came out. Don’t even get me started on how amazing the music video is. Okay, do. Here it is, “Cute Without the “E” (Cut From The Team) by Taking Back Sunday.

4. Beautiful, Heart Breaking. Incredible metaphor that they stick to for the entire song. A break up summed up in a song about a ship wreck. This is the first song I ever learned on guitar. It’s so simple but hey, some of the most beautiful songs are. “Play Crack the Sky” by Brand New.

3. Short and to the point. Impossible to not get pumped up to this song. I love the complexity that they go through, as the song has 4 very distinct parts, yet the transitions blend together so well. I even got to listen to it while driving down Hollywood Boulevard, which was very fitting. It’s “I Am Hollywood” by He Is Legend.

2. I’m not sure I can pinpoint why I love this song so much. The outro is by far the best I’ve ever heard. Up until that point it’s a pretty basic, raw metal song. Like, if, someone had no concept of what metal was you could show them that song and they would comprehend it perfectly. And the fact that two of my favorite bands worked together on a song couldn’t be ignored. The first runner-up is “Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste” by Norma Jean.

1. This has been my favorite song for about the past 10 years, and I doubt it will ever change. I guess I’ve always found piano fascinating because I have no idea how to play it, so there’s extra mystique when I hear it. I can’t help but listen to it and picture some guy just like me spilling his heart without worrying whether it’s a good song or not, he just needs to get something off his chest. But as Andrew McMahon does, he made something beautiful without even trying. The coolest part about this song is that they never released it on an actual album, so it makes fans feel extra cool when they have a copy of it. At least it did in 2004 when it wasn’t as easy to find unreleased music. At number one, (it’s okay Dlew, don’t cry) it’s “Konstantine” by Something Corporate.

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The Perfect Saturday

By FanningKSU

What does the perfect Saturday look like to you? It will look different to everyone, but for me, it was this last Saturday. Bill Snyder, I think it’s fair to say that you’ve officially “calmed the waters”. K-State’s thumping to the Miami Hurricanes set record as one of the worst losses in the Miami programs history. However, the buzz is focused around a K-State football team that seems to improve year-by-year in Snyder’s second run at K-State. He continues to over perform with a list of characters that are thought of as low attention recruits. In a day of age where recruiting rankings are everything, he continues to prove otherwise.

What’s the difference? My answer is Bill Snyder’s first retirement. Bill struggled his last few years at K-State and everyone said, “he was getting too old and out of touch with the players”. Bill took that time and was finally able to watch the game from the booth. For three years he itched and had to watch a Ron Prince football team that continued to descend year-by-year back to irrelevance. However, Snyder never stopped. For those who have set up in the press box with Bill, you noticed him writing down notes during the game. Was he scheming? Was he doodling? Who knows? But I believe he was planning a return.

What makes Saturday great is everything that surrounded it. Nothing has changed in Lawrence. Charlie Weis embarrassed the Big 12 by losing to Rice and continues to embarrass himself as a Head Coach at the D1 level. Another loss for a KU Football program that continues to be the laughing-stock of the conference. How about Missouri? How’s that SEC treating you now? With the Tigers loss to Georgia Saturday night, every program that left the Big 12 in the last two years had lost on that same day. Nebraska goes down to UCLA, A&M to Florida at home, and Colorado to Sacramento State. Yes, Sacramento State! These programs continue to embarrass themselves, while K-State continues to over work opponents climbing their way back into the Top 15 in the AP Poll. It doesn’t seem real. How is K-State doing it again?

There are several questions marks for the future. K-State will lose a great group of Seniors this year and they will need to definitely improve on the recruiting trail. However, Daniel Sams continues to calm those worries. Sams looks every bit as advertised and more. Coach Snyder will need to find a way to continue to get Sams touches throughout the season. Not only is he one of the most athletic players on the roster, but he also has a knack for finding the end zone. You can’t ignore 6 carries for 108 yards, and 3 touchdowns. There has to be away to implement both Klein and Sams into the lineup.

I understand that it’s still early in the season, but the buzz is real. This last Saturday was perfect! Several national analyst questioned if K-State could retain the success that they instilled from last year. I don’t know if this team can get to 10 wins, but it definitely looks doable. Personally, I think this season has the makings of one of the best in Kansas State’s history.

[Ed. note: picture removed because for some reason, NOW fanning’s embarrassed about fanning. Why now? You ask him.]

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Press Release: “Fanning Situation” Resolved

goEMAW is pleased to announce a resolution of the unfortunate matter involving fanning and fledgling website “jug of snyder.” After an initial lapse in judgment, fanning has seen the light and reaffirmed his status as an exclusive goEMAW writer. Accordingly, we have suspended assertion of our commercial appropriation claims, presuming “jug” keeps our name out their mouf.

Look for future long-form (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip) content from fanning to be published here on the goEMAW blog in the weeks to come. And don’t forget to make plans to attend the trivia event at FattyFest on June 23 at Auntie Mae’s in Aggieville, Manhattan, KS, for a chance to win prized memorabilia from fanning’s filly relationship, all in support of the Shwan “Fatty” Alkhatib Memorial Fund.

Go Cats.

Austin on fatty

Austin Meek reflects on fatty4ksu

If I’m ever feeling discouraged, I try to remind myself how fortunate I am to make a living writing about sports, something many people happily do for free. It’s ridiculous, if you think about it, and the only reason our economy supports such a job is because of the true, passionate fans in this world. These are the people who read every word, know every recruit and use sports as a way to create community with others. People like Shwan, in other words.

I didn’t know him well, but I remember meeting him several years ago at the old Manhattan Classic AAU tournament. I was relatively new on the beat and still hadn’t found my place. I recognized him by his Internet moniker, which is a testament to his talent and creativity. (I didn’t recognize Trim; nothing personal, pal.) He wasn’t the guy I’d pictured, which seems like a common response from people meeting him for the first time. He probably knew far more about the beat than I did, but he went out of his way to be nice and make me feel at home covering K-State. I always remembered that.

I won’t deny having mixed feelings about how the Internet has affected discourse in sports. At its best, though, the Internet can be an outlet for creativity, a home for humor and insight, and a place where people come together in genuine community. Shwan embodied all of those things.

J-Mart on fatty

Jeffrey Martin reflects on fatty4ksu

He was different.

Not in a disturbing way, but Shwan was, well, odd. I’d never met someone like him, and that, in retrospect, must only be interpreted as a compliment. He was unique, someone whose passion for whatever struck his interest was unbridled and genuine.

I’ll admit it – his love for all things K-State, especially athletics, disturbed me at first. I thought he was messing me, being a new beat writer, and I wasn’t privy to much of the slang and backstories that permeated the various message boards he frequented.

I was a little defensive because here was this odd yet intensely curious K-State fan who wanted to know everything about his beloved Wildcats, and he wanted me to tell him. He cared so deeply, yet my initial reaction was one of insecurity – I recoiled.

But if Shwan was anything, he was persistent. And over the years, I embraced his idiosyncrasies. There were phone calls in addition to the e-mails. He’d pop up at the strangest times when I was in Manhattan.

After a while, I started looking forward to those meetings.

And now he’s gone.

One of my favorite movies is “Rushmore,” and while maybe it cheapens the memory of Shwan to compare him to a celluloid character, I can’t help but think of him whenever I watch the flick. He reminds me so much of the central figure, Max Fischer, who loved nothing more than his time at the fictional titular private school.

At one point, Max is asked what the secret, presumably to life, is.

“The secret, I don’t know…,” Fischer says. “I guess you’ve just gotta find something you love to do and then… Do it for the rest of your life. For me, it’s… Rushmore.”

Substitute “K-State” for Rushmore, and that was Shwan.

Rake on fatty4ksu

Jeff Rake reflects on fatty4ksu

I was at Hale Library one night, tired and cranky because I had to grade papers for my job as a teaching assistant, and that’s when I heard a voice behind me.

I checked the time. It was 1 a.m.

“Rake,” the voice said.

The place was empty. I didn’t recognize the voice.

I turned around and it was Fatty.

“You’re a counterpuncher, Rake!” he said. “A counterpuncher!”

I had no earthly idea what he was talking about.

“You’re a counterpuncher in tennis,” he said. “I hate counterpunchers!”

We had met just one previous time at the rec center tennis courts. Fatty watched me play for three or four points — maybe five. And somehow, in that short amount of time, he had figured out that I was a “counterpuncher,” his way of saying that I do nothing but play defense.

“Well,” I told him, “I do play fairly conservatively.”

“You’re a counterpuncher!” he said again.

* * *

I would estimate that I’ve had a dozen encounters with Fatty. There was the time at the tennis courts (he was practicing his serve by himself), and then there was a time at the Cat’s Den convenience store when he criticized my purchase of a bottled Diet Mountain Dew. (“Rake,” he said. “Fountain Drinks are cheaper. And you get more for less. And ice!”)

The other 10 encounters were at Hale Library.

“Look at this place,” he told me during one conversation. “I mean, how awesome is it here?”

“At the library?” I asked.

“Yeah,” he said. “It has, like, everything.”

He then proceeded to point out all that the library had to offer: Hundreds of computers (“Both PC and Mac”), scanners, PDF creators, millions of books, journals, magazines, a coffee place, a bagel shop, a 24/7 study area, couches, atriums, secret mystery rooms. Oh, and also: It looks like a castle.

“What, no love for interlibrary loan?” I asked.

“Everything,” he said. “This place has everything.”

Our conversations weren’t conversations. They were quiz shows. Fatty would ask me a question, I would provide an answer, and then he’d interrupt.

“Wait” he’d say. “How do you not like to fly?”

Or, “How do you not like Frank Martin?”

He’d answer questions with questions and statements with questions and would question my statements. He’d finish my sentences and he would spot my insecurities — in much the same way that he was able to quickly identify my style of tennis.

Fatty was brilliant.

And now he’s gone.

When I first got the news, I was profoundly sad. Fatty loved his life and he loved Kansas State and he loved to make people laugh — on message boards, where he became somewhat of a celebrity, but also in person, where he touched so many people in so many ways.

Our conversations were always a joy. Sometimes we’d talk for 20 minutes. Sometimes a half hour. Once, we must have talked for two hours.

He did not change my life, but he made it better.

He will be missed.

Manbeck on fatty4ksu

Cole Manbeck reflects on fatty4ksu

I never personally met Shwan, but I always felt like I knew him, which I think is part of his charm. If I had to guess, there are thousands of people who felt like they knew him just through his posts on the message boards. Honestly, his posts were some of the funniest things I’ve ever read. Anytime I saw a post from him, I’d click on it because I knew I was in for a laugh. Someone that can bring laughter to so many is a special character trait, and I really can’t imagine not having those posts anymore — the ones where he would set up hypothetical situations with the announcer calling a moment in a K-State game days before the game actually occurred — to him constantly talking about winning the Dr. Pepper (loved how he referred to the championship game as that).

I remember back when I was in college, I was on the way home from a Royals game and we stopped late at IHOP. I had a fascination with who this “fatty” character was on the message boards, so I was talking about him with them. Then one of my friends says she knows him — she went to high school with him at MHS, and I was fascinated to find out about what he was like. From then on, I would involve him with personal messages about topics I thought he might care about. He was always very kind in his responses, and often times funny.

The best recollection I have — and I say I never met Shwan — but a couple years ago I was in my first few months at The Mercury. I was out jogging on a summer evening, and apparently I ran by Shwan. Later on, I was cruising the message boards (I think it was ksufans) at the time, and I see a post from Shwan talking about how I had run by him and he told me I looked good after losing weight. Some people may have been creeped out by that, but I thought it was hilarious. I told him next time he sees me, make sure to stop me and say hi and I’d love to talk K-State sports with him. Unfortunately, I never ran past him ever again — I really wish I would have.

Reading all the accounts and personal recollections from those of you who personally knew him on goemaw, it’s kind of a nauseous feeling to know he’s gone at such a young age. There will be a lot less laughs around K-State nation and Big 12 country with his passing.

Aside from everything he did on the message boards, the K-State videos, etc., to know what he was doing for his brother in California, that speaks volumes to the type of human being he was as well.

I would say this about him: If there was a separate heaven for K-Staters, Shwan might just be the God of it.


What To Wear On Game Day


The evolution of the game day outfit has come a long way in recent years. We are here to tell you what kinds of girls are wearing what outfits, what kinds of boys we expect to be wearing what outfits, and to explain the direct correlation between your love for K-State and how nice you will look this Saturday.

Let’s start with some of the typical fans you will see at games:

1. THE FRESHMAN: Unless you are under the age of 20, extremely patient, blacked out, or creepy…don’t talk to freshman. They do not yet understand the tailgating experience and they probably all have GA tickets. This also means that their attire will not be up to par and may even be a disgrace to the fact that everyone at K-State is attractive and elite. Point being, we don’t care about them, and they are irrelevant to our game day experience.

2. Those people that probably lived in residence halls at one point in time: These kids don’t seem to give a flying tree squirrel’s ass what they look like on game day. I don’t know why; I didn’t make the rules; this is just an observation. For starters—the cargo short. Cargo shorts are the ultimate KSTATEO. Cargo shorts remind me of a molting bird. It literally looks like your pants are rejecting themselves and shooting random material out to be discarded as you walk. With so many zippers, pockets, and strange creases, your pants are ultimately distracting our entire football team from their goal of a big, fat W. Also, the nicest thing you can pair cargo shorts with is a t-shirt—unless you want to look like a complete idiot. Therefore, you cannot dress nice enough for your Catz. In conclusion: If you wear cargo shorts to a football game, we will lose, thanks to your distracting attire.

3. Those of us proper females who actually love K-State: While it’s true that not all men and women are on the same level of ultimate eliteness as we are, a nice handful of K-State fans understand the importance of game day and the need to dress respectfully. Approved outfits for women: K-State t-shirt dress. Nice skirt and top combo or dress that incorporates white, black, grey, purple or any combination. Yes it gets cold. That’s what cardigans and tights are for. If you must wear jeans, spruce it up on top. Always look your best. Now you say, ‘Girls… you’re going to get super pak’d. You will make a mess of your nice clothing’. Well good thing K-State fans are rich and can afford dry cleaning. You can’t disagree that the huge whiskey spot across my chest looks sloppier on a raggedy t-shirt than it would on a purple sundress.

4. Boys that don’t suck just enough that we might call them men: First, always wear a belt. Second, khaki shorts. KHAKI SHORTS. Or dare you break out lavender shorts? We would not be upset about that. In the colder months, khaki (or lavendar) pants are acceptable. If you really insist on wearing jeans, be conscious of how much of a douche you look like in them. Avoid obnoxious stitching, color accents, holes or excessive pockets. After you have these jeans on, go to a mirror, turn around, and look at your butt. If the waist of your pants is above your ass crack, you have succeeded in putting on a pair of pants, ‘grats. For your top half, there is nothing that screams, ‘I go to the best school in the nation’, like a purple oxford. We will even accept the purple polo. How about these options in white? Fine. If you want us to idolize the ground you walk on, three words: purple bow tie. I know what you’re saying, “But girls, K-State is not in the SEC”. Well guess what…we are the SEC West. Let’s start acting and looking like it. I know what else you’re saying, “But girls, you’re telling us to dress like shirt tucks.” Well look around boys, because if you haven’t noticed, shirt tucks have a lot of money. And really hot wives. I think this says enough in itself. If you want to be rich and tailgate with your hot, K-State-loving wife, then you will venture to this level of dress for a football game. If you haven’t done so previously, try it this weekend. I dare you to report back that you did not have an amazing time and feel great about yourself.

There you have the breakdown. Now let’s move on to the most important aspect of any game day outfit: ACCESSORIES. For both the ladies and gents, we strongly encourage purple koozies and croakies. Girls—wear cowboy boots. This is not a friendly suggestion, but a fashion-enlightened order. If you can get away with wearing a bow in your hair without looking like a six-year-old, by all means please do so. Boys—can you pull off the boots with your jeans? Will take. Other than that, please wear loafers or boat shoes. Do not wear tennis shoes. You are not playing the sport. You have taken time out of your day to observe the glory that is college football. Show that you know you are here to observe and cheer, not to try and relive your 10th grade JV team glory days.

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There you have it my friends. Game day is a very important and serious event. There are two things you should dress up for every weekend: game day and church. Feel free to ask our opinion on your outfit of choice. We might even give a special prize :winky face: to the best-dressed goEMAWer.




Bowling (not about 6-6 seasons or Fitz’ shirts)

Coming off the success of AvivoPak, the goEMAW BBBS bowling team entered their scheduled event with a balance of $4,517 raised for Big Brothers Big Sisters. goEMAW dominated the evening, both on the scoreboard and the accounting ledger.

Your humble author frankly got fairly pak’d, so I’ll be posting details of the evening in the BBBS thread on I’ll need the other pak’rs to help plug in some details. I don’t remember putting on our pak head masks, let alone hanging the banners and then taking the giant check to Manhattan.

There’s still time to donate. We gathered we’re a little less than $3,000 behind the leading small company, Eby Construction. We met Mr. Eby at last night’s event and he took great pleasure in telling us they were “Boomer Sooners” and that they didn’t anticipate planning losing their championship to a bunch of purple pussies, notwithstanding him immediately running out the side door before I could execute a chokeout.

Once again, donations large and small can be made at the following links:




Johnny Wichita:

Don’t forget, we have a number of prizes that will be raffled off to the donors, including gift certificates to Houlihan’s in Manhattan and the Michael Beasley signed basketball. Details are in the thread on