Jason Whitlock's column

[catsfan20012002]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/16648482.htm

The reality is, even after seven straight victories and a 6-2 conference start, getting this team to eight or nine conference wins will be enough of a miracle to garner Big 12 coach of the year accolades.



Now I don't believe that.

[ksu_FAN]

Overall not a bad column, but that's a little much.  This should still be a 10 win team unless we absolutely fall apart and I don't see that.  Of course, I didn't see ku beating us by 27 either.

[Dan Rydell]

Wow.  That's one of the most accurate columns by Whitlock that I've ever read.

[catsfan20012002]

I still say 11-5 at the worst

[mavrick1821]

I call  on Whitlock...KSU land should be very disappointed with less than 10 conference W's this year IMO.

[ksu_FAN]

I'm hopeful for 11-5, but I'm preparing myself for 10-6.  His point about Huggs getting the most out of these guys is spot on and its very possible we could lose a couple games that are real head scratchers.  Tuesday night has me real concerned.

[sys]

it is easy to forget in a 7 game winning stretch a couple things:

1)  only 1 of the teams ksu beat was any good.
2)  ksu almost lost several of those games.

10-6 is where ksu "should" finish, but 11-5 is not much of a stretch.

[ksu_FAN]

it is easy to forget in a 7 game winning stretch a couple things:

1)  only 1 of the teams ksu beat was any good.
2)  ksu almost lost several of those games.

10-6 is where ksu "should" finish, but 11-5 is not much of a stretch.

That's essentually what the 4th and 5th place team in the league always does.  Win the games you should, some of them close, and beat 2 or 3 teams in the league with a winning league record (at most).  If we continue to follow that trend we should finish 10-6 at worst.

[mcmwcat]

it is easy to forget in a 7 game winning stretch a couple things:

1)  only 1 of the teams ksu beat was any good.
2)  ksu almost lost several of those games.

10-6 is where ksu "should" finish, but 11-5 is not much of a stretch.

i guess the same could be said about ku.

[michigancat]

it is easy to forget in a 7 game winning stretch a couple things:

1)  only 1 of the teams ksu beat was any good.
2)  ksu almost lost several of those games.

10-6 is where ksu "should" finish, but 11-5 is not much of a stretch.

That's essentually what the 4th and 5th place team in the league always does.  Win the games you should, some of them close, and beat 2 or 3 teams in the league with a winning league record (at most).  If we continue to follow that trend we should finish 10-6 at worst.

See aTm last year (wins against teams with winning conference records in bold):

01/7   Texas Tech    W 63-55    11-1 (1-0)   
01/11   at Oklahoma State    L 79-77    11-2 (1-1)   
01/14   Oklahoma    L 45-44    11-3 (1-2)   
01/18   at Kansas State    L 58-54    11-4 (1-3)   
01/21   at Iowa State    W 86-81    12-4 (2-3)   
01/25   Kansas    L 83-73    12-5 (2-4)   
01/28   Baylor    W 72-70    13-5 (3-4)   
02/1   at Oklahoma    L 71-63    13-6 (3-5)   
02/4   at Texas    L 83-70    13-7 (3-6)   
02/8   Colorado    W 61-58    14-7 (4-6)   
02/11   Oklahoma State    W 46-44    15-7 (5-6)   
02/18   at Baylor    W 64-60    16-7 (6-6)   
02/21   at Missouri    W 54-51    17-7 (7-6)   
02/25   Nebraska    W 66-55    18-7 (8-6)   
03/1   Texas    W 46-43    19-7 (9-6)   
03/4   at Texas Tech    W 75-59    20-7 (10-6)   

Tech in 04-05:

01/8   Oklahoma State    L 76-66    8-4 (0-1)   
01/12   at Kansas State    W 79-76    9-4 (1-1)   
01/15   Texas A&M    W 70-56    10-4 (2-1)   
01/19   at Missouri    W 78-62    11-4 (3-1)   
01/25   at Texas    L 80-73    11-5 (3-2)   
01/29   Nebraska    W 84-68    12-5 (4-2)   
02/2   Colorado    W 97-90    13-5 (5-2)   
02/5   at Oklahoma    W 88-81    14-5 (6-2)   
02/9   Baylor    W 83-67    15-5 (7-2)   
02/12   at Iowa State    L 81-68    15-6 (7-3)   
02/14   No. 15 Kansas    W 80-79    16-6 (8-3)   
02/19   at No. 8 Oklahoma State    L 85-56    16-7 (8-4)   CBS
02/22   Texas    W 69-65    17-7 (9-4)   
02/26   at Texas A&M    L 85-63    17-8 (9-5)   
03/2   at Baylor    W 72-66    18-8 (10-5)   
03/5   No. 20 Oklahoma    L 74-54    18-9 (10-6)   


CU in 03-04:

01/14   at Nebraska    W 68-60    9-4 (1-1)   
01/17   Iowa State    W 88-70    10-4 (2-1)   
01/21   at No. 3 Oklahoma State    L 71-62    10-5 (2-2)   
01/25   at No. 14 Kansas    L 78-57    10-6 (2-3)   
01/28   Missouri    W 83-70    11-6 (3-3)   
01/31   Baylor    W 81-66    12-6 (4-3)   
02/4   at No. 11 Texas    L 76-63    12-7 (4-4)   
02/7   Kansas State    W 82-81    13-7 (5-4)   
02/10   at Missouri    L 77-65    13-8 (5-5)   
02/18   Texas Tech    W 85-75    14-8 (6-5)   
02/21   at Kansas State    W 72-62    15-8 (7-5)   
02/25   Oklahoma    W 94-87    16-8 (8-5)   
02/28   at Texas A&M    W 76-70    17-8 (9-5)   
03/3   at Iowa State    L 83-77    17-9 (9-6)   
03/6   Nebraska    W 78-75    18-9 (10-6)   


4th place usually gets 2 wins over teams with winning conference records a year.

[Dan Rydell]

it is easy to forget in a 7 game winning stretch a couple things:

1)  only 1 of the teams ksu beat was any good.
2)  ksu almost lost several of those games.

10-6 is where ksu "should" finish, but 11-5 is not much of a stretch.

i guess the same could be said about ku.

Yes.  ku has yet to beat a team in conference that's better than they are, and they've lost to one or two that aren't.  Color me unimpressed.