So the intro didn't suck

[pissclams]

...and most here don't remember KSU basketball...

That's like a ku fan saying we have a low Basketball IQ because our teams have essentially sucked for the last 20 years.
There's no direct corelation between supporting a crappy program and understanding the game.  As a matter of fact, it could be argued that while we do have our share of bandwagon fans who have followed basketball the past 9 months, the KSU hardliners who have sat through the past 20 years of misery and breaking down 40 point losses to UMKC understand the game better than fans of a successful team like ku where all they do is spend their time idol worshiping.

[michigancat]

  As a matter of fact, it could be argued that while we do have our share of bandwagon fans who have followed basketball the past 9 months, the KSU hardliners who have sat through the past 20 years of misery and breaking down 40 point losses to UMKC understand the game better than fans of a successful team like ku where all they do is spend their time idol worshiping.

We also are better fans than the "I went to games in Ahearn" crowd.  We're really the best fans you can find.

[pissclams]

Sweet. I feel so good about myself right now it's incredible. 

[ksu_FAN]

  As a matter of fact, it could be argued that while we do have our share of bandwagon fans who have followed basketball the past 9 months, the KSU hardliners who have sat through the past 20 years of misery and breaking down 40 point losses to UMKC understand the game better than fans of a successful team like ku where all they do is spend their time idol worshiping.

We also are better fans than the "I went to games in Ahearn" crowd.  We're really the best fans you can find.

And we're probably a little messed up in the head.  Face it, there simply aren't many people who follow losing programs passionately. 

[Ameroogie]

Willie Murrell -- 1964 All-American
6'6" 225 lbs Forward
4th Round NBA Draft Pick (St. Louis)

He had 4 30+ point games in 1964, including 39 against Mizzou
4th all-time overall in season scoring / 4th all-time overall in season average
11th all-time overall in career scoring / 4th all-time in career average
3rd all-time in rebound average
12 double doubles in 1963 / 26 in his KSU career

[Ameroogie]

...and most here don't remember KSU basketball...

Come on, most here started and stuck with K-State basketball throughout the 90s and 00s.  Its not our fault we weren't born in 1955.  We are just as passionate as anyone that got to watch in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

The comment wasn't made as a slam to the fans of today's basketball program....only as a confirmation that a vast majority of the people that post on this board grew up with Dana Altman as the head coach. 
KSU basketball has history -- a rich history that warrants the consideration of fans of "today's" brand and coaches and players.  It's history that builds tradition.
Being a perennial powerhouse requires history.

We "Ahearn fans" are incredibly excited about the direction of this basketball program.  Not because we're tired of having a losing, non-competitive team, but because we're tired of having a losing, non-competitive team AND we know how much flipping fun it is when you win -- we know history.

[ksu_FAN]

I can agree with that, especially the "winning is fun" part.

[plaincat]

My first KSU basketball memories where Mike Evans, Larry Dassie, Darryl Winston. and Steve Soldner(sp?).

We weren't that great when we played in Ahearn.  I can't recall us ever being ranked in the top 10.  Rarely in the top 20.  The times I remember when we did make the sweet 16 or the elite 8 we were always the underdog. 
Hartman was famous for playing the zone and slowing the game down.  His days were done when the shot clock was introduced.

But we didn't lose to ku at home every single year.

I don't think I am any better than the rest of you because I had the privilege of watching games in Ahearn when I grew up.  But if you never got the chance, you did miss out.  Go to a game at Allen Fieldhouse if you want to know what it was like.  ku built that place to match what KSU had done with Ahearn only they (of course) had to make it slightly bigger.  When you are at the game in Allen, imagine all the people packed in tighter and imagine that they are all yelling louder and they are all pounding their feet on the floor so that the entire place vibrates.  That was Ahearn.

[WILDCAT NATION]

Ahearn was awesome...

And I thoroughly enjoyed bball at KSU until March of 1988...Then we moved to Bramlage.

I stuck with it all the way until 1998....then Assbury lost me...I came back in about '01.

[Ameroogie]

I totally agree that Ahearn was awesome, but only some of the awe came from the building -- most of it came from the action on the floor and the action in the stands.

During the past 20 or so "lean" years, the atmosphere has changed.  Granted, Bramlage doesn't have the primal basketball-drenched aura of Ahearn, but Ahearn only became that way because of the games played there--the teams that took the floor and the fans that made it one of the toughest places to play in college basketball.  <--That can happen at Bramlage now too.

Hell, if our record in Ahearn was as poor as our record has been the last 20 years, we would have be looking back at Ahearn with spite.

[WilliamTheWildcat]

Morph of Gardner-Winter-Fitzsimmons-Hartman-Kruger-Altman-(omitted)-(omitted)-Huggins

I would pay a PSL premium just to see this.

[Ameroogie]

Fatty.....computer morph guru....this appears to be right down your alley.