Turn out the lights?

[Saulbadguy]

That is what i'm reminded of. 

[michigancat]

We had a chance to win last night, and we were playing the winningest coach of all time instead of Barry Collier.

Other than that, they were pretty much identical.

[Saulbadguy]

We had a chance to win last night, and we were playing the winningest coach of all time instead of Barry Collier.

Other than that, they were pretty much identical.

I just didn't see the effort, Rusty.  That is what stuck out to me the most.  Plus the situation we were going in to was similar, as it has been the last few years.  Lose a tough road game in the opener, and then go on to lose the win-able home game.

[michigancat]

I didn't think the effort was that bad.  The team was more dumb than lazy, IMO.

[ksu_FAN]

This team reminded me more of an Asbury game than Wooldridge.  We can bash Wooly, but his problems were more in the small things and toughness.  His teams guarded pretty well and ran pretty decent offense which kept us in games, that's why we lost close so much despite the occasional blowout.  This was more the Asbury theme where you play great defense but can't find a way to score outside of one guy. 

bslimz post was right, a Wooly team would've looked prettier to the average fan, but he had his own kids in his own system and not enough of them and enough toughness.  I'm not saying he was a great coach, but his teams were more often than not entertaining to watch b/c they had some fluidity and kept us in most games.  I'm not surprised to see some fans say that Wooly's teams would've played better.  However, to be a championship team we have to go beyond that and sadly we're still at the "get worse before you get better" stage under Huggins and probably will have moments like this all year.

[catzacker]

This team reminded me more of an Asbury game than Wooldridge. 

No.  That was Wooly-esque.  Saul summed it up:

Lose a tough road game in the opener, and then go on to lose the win-able home game.

That is the essence of Wooly.  Make you think that the team is about ready to take a step forward and then he takes another step back. 

[ksu_FAN]

I agree completely in that aspect.  Wooly was the king of digging a hole early, going on a little run to give you some hope, then absolutely crushing you and maybe finishing the season with a few wins to rub salt in it.

I was talking the style of play.  Most of Asbury's teams really struggled to score like we did last night but played great defense, Wooly's teams didn't have those types of games nearly as often, they just would play close then lose in the last 5 minutes more often than not.

[pissclams]

Why are you guys still talking about Wooly and Asbury?? 

[PoetWarrior]

I didn't think the effort was that bad.  The team was more dumb than lazy, IMO.

Bingo, our players are soooo dumb.

Zero "basketball IQ"

and just regular dumb.

[ksu_FAN]

Why are you guys still talking about Wooly and Asbury?? 

I think its pretty common to compare to what you know.  What most of us know is bad basketball, and what we saw last night reminded me of the bad offense of the Asbury era.  I do agree, I hope the comparisons go away soon (b/c that means we're going past them), but I tend to draw to it after a performance like last night and a Wooly-esque 0-2 start in the league.

[Meatbag]

Well Wright, Afeli, Harris and Martin will be gone so next year the pressure will be on Huggins to win 20 games.  Speaking of Afeli, why didn't he play at all?  The general make up of the roster will be mostly Huggins recruits. 

[michigancat]

Serge played, gave up a layup, and was removed.

[WildGunman]

This team doesn't know how to start the conference season any other way.  Isn't this the third or fourth straight season we've started 0-2?

[McGrowlTowelZac]

This team doesn't know how to start the conference season any other way.  Isn't this the third or fourth straight season we've started 0-2?

We won't start 0-2 next year

[ksu_FAN]

Its a Wooly epidemic.

Last year, start 0-2, win 3 in a row to give us hope, lose 4 out of 5 and fail to dig out.
2 years ago, start 0-2, win 3 out of 4 to give us hope, lose 6 in a row.
3 years ago, start 0-2 and then 1-5 and never have hope.
4 years ago, start 1-0, win only 3 more.
5 years ago, start 0-3, win 3 of 5, then stumble back and forth down the stretch.