Why does it seem Vic is interviewing everywhere in the Country???

[wiley03]

Can't wait until that P.O.S. is fired next year after Illinois struggles mightily again.

You don't know Vic that well, he's already gaining support behind Zook to be the Interim HC when Zook is fired....genius.

[MadCat]

http://ow.ly/MrtG

JFC...Illinois is not a step in the right direction if your wife loves the Southeast.

[~WabashRoll~]

Well, Snyd's is yet again proving to be the complete disaster we all knew he would be.  The second verse, same as the first............

Can't recruit worth a sh*t:  Check

Can't maintain the top assistants on his staff:  Check

A lateral move to Illinois?  JFC, just freaking retire, OB.  Again.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Well, Snyd's is yet again proving to be the complete disaster we all knew he would be.  The second verse, same as the first............

Can't recruit worth a sh*t:  Check

Can't maintain the top assistants on his staff:  Check

A lateral move to Illinois?  JFC, just freaking retire, OB.  Again.

      

[stormnut]

Well, Snyd's is yet again proving to be the complete disaster we all knew he would be.  The second verse, same as the first............

Can't recruit worth a sh*t:  Check

Can't maintain the top assistants on his staff:  Check

A lateral move to Illinois?  JFC, just freaking retire, OB.  Again.

      

Vic is a dumbfrack for doing this. Glad we are getting rid of the dumbfrack coaches. Seriously.

[Big Sam]

Well, Snyd's is yet again proving to be the complete disaster we all knew he would be.  The second verse, same as the first............

Can't recruit worth a sh*t:  Check

Can't maintain the top assistants on his staff:  Check

A lateral move to Illinois?  JFC, just freaking retire, OB.  Again.

Yeah, let's ponder the recruiting led by the current Wisky coach.  Went against all the standards put forth by Snyder (but it was hip and Rivals ranking friendly) and it all amounted to suckage.  Snyder's method may not get Rivals Ranking stars, but it does get kids that end up being pretty good.

As to losing assistants, it happens.  VK leaving for a lateral job just confirms the rumors that floated from almost day one - the workload (time doing work to meet Snyder's expectations) was more than he wanted to give.  The reality is that Snyder will have some names on his list and contacts will occur.

That said, his choices should tend to be for younger coaches.  They are more energetic, will put up with the longer hours, and they usually aren't bad at recruiting.

Sam S.

[PowercatPat]

Why the frack is he leaving his alma mater for Illinois? Is he getting paid a lot more? 

[wiley03]

Why the frack is he leaving his alma mater for Illinois? Is he getting paid a lot more? 

he will, and he never wanted to be here in the first place.

[kcchiefdav]

Well...$hit.

[VivaLaEMAW]

I'm really not concerned in the least, we'll promote from inside or find another, either way the recruiting can only improve. 

[Soft Taco Wallace]

Vic Koenning? More like Dic Koenning. amirite?

[Special_K]

Let's be honest did anyone on this site honestly believe Vic was the long-term solution to our defense?

Not saying Cosh is, but Vic wasn't exactly tearing it up on the recruiting trail and the fundamentals our defensive staff taught the same players that Tibs did such a shbt-azz job on was more responsible for our improvement on defense than any play-calling by Vic.

We desperately need some young blood on the staff with this hire, though.

[sonofdaxjones]

I'll say it up front, that this news disappoints me.  I was  when OB hired VK.   I thought VK did a great job all things considered. 

But as I talk to folks who would know . . . and based on this news, it's quite apparent VK had no intention to stay at K-State and only took the job because K-State was the firmest offer for the most money.

Where blame should really lie is with OB himself.   Come on . . .  there were inklings from the word GO that VK wasn't going to hang around long. 

I agree with Special K, we need young coaches who can be ramped up to teach the system well, but who are hungry recruiters. 

[KSUTOMMY]

This BS just reminds me of the whole Elliott/Beilema thing... I felt sick when Brett left and I feel the same way now.

To sum up what I am reading here: fck Vic - he's leaving cuz he cant hack the long hrs that OBz demands. Cosh isn't the answer and we need new "fresh" blood infused into this program... so why in the FCK didn't we just get some young guys who are full of piss and vinegar to begin with? This is turning into the joke that it was when OBz retired. Thank god that the north is down or our ineptitude would REALLY show.

[MadCat]

Waters becoming unsmoothed as we speak. 

[WildcatNkilt]

Holy crap....

Tubberville....DC....yea?

[steve dave]

Holy crap....

Tubberville....DC....yea?

um.....YES 

[Maccat]

Losing Koenning would be devastating.  Snyder needs to give him whatever he wants.  Why isn't Cosh interviewing anywhere?  Oh yeah that's right they know that Vic was the brains behind the defense.  Cut Cosh loose and promote Vic to full time d coord.  Who cares if we lose Cosh's 3 star qb son.  He wouldn't play qb for snyder's offense anyways.

Actually the same sight said Cosh was in the running for the ULM HC job.

please impress them your knowledge of nothing.

[D-Rock]

Why the frack is he leaving his alma mater for Illinois? Is he getting paid a lot more? 

Something to the tune of $200,000 more.  If you could almost double your salary in a profession that has turned into "What have you done for me lately?..."  wouldn't you go also?  I'm disappointed, but not necessarily surprised.

[cireksu]

This is a comlete disaster.  We'll never be able to attract high quality coaches.  We already can't afford It's Patterson.  We're going to be a revolving door of crappy coordinators from here on out.

[treysolid]

Bumpas, McCarney.

Chances?  Thoughts?

[~WabashRoll~]

Why the frack is he leaving his alma mater for Illinois? Is he getting paid a lot more? 

Something to the tune of $200,000 more.  If you could almost double your salary in a profession that has turned into "What have you done for me lately?..."  wouldn't you go also?  I'm disappointed, but not necessarily surprised.

Old people are notoriously tight with their money.  I've been getting 10 bucks and some Werthers Originals from my grandpa for my birthday for like 25 straight years.

This stuff happens, folks, even in college football.



 

[michigancat]

If Vic is stupid enough to jump on that sinking ship then maybe it is a good thing he is leaving.

Maybe he thinks he's jumping off of a ship that's sinking faster? 

[michigancat]

but seriously, Koenning didn't do much, other than walk into a league where every decent offensive weapon left the year before.  I could have "improved" the defense as much as he did.

[stormnut]

If Vic is stupid enough to jump on that sinking ship then maybe it is a good thing he is leaving.

Maybe he thinks he's jumping off of a ship that's sinking faster? 

now that was a dumb fracking thing to say. Even for this board. JFC

[~WabashRoll~]

Vic is a dumbfrack for doing this. Glad we are getting rid of the dumbfrack coaches. Seriously.

This one was a lot better, Stormy.

I'm all in favor of getting rid of dumbfrack coaches, just wish Snyder was one of them.

[stormnut]

Vic is a dumbfrack for doing this. Glad we are getting rid of the dumbfrack coaches. Seriously.

This one was a lot better, Stormy.

I'm all in favor of getting rid of dumbfrack coaches, just wish Snyder was one of them.

Holly crap this thread is full of dumb&@#%s. JFC Snyder's left old ball has smarter dried up sperm than you &@#%tard.

[Wildcat09]

Koening and Snyder have never seen eye to eye when it comes to off the field stuff. Snyder has commented he's going to continue with his style of recruiting, and waiting until the end of the HS SR.'s senior season before offering. Koening doesn't see that as working, and so he's looking elsewhere. And while he went to Kansas State, he wasn't here during the Snyder era, so there really isn't the 'loyalty' per se that you may find or think.

That's just what I've heard from people around the water cooler that are somewhat in the know.  Koening is much more 'aggressive' in recruiting, and since Snyder isn't, Koening wants to do something different. 

[cireksu]

That's just what I've heard from people around the water cooler that are somewhat in the know Have GPC memberships or have friends that do.

[PowercatPat]

Is Tibs available?