Stan Weber...

[LimestoneOutcropping]

So, really ............What did Stan say?

See my post.  He mostly cried.

[steve dave]

So, really ............What did Stan say?

what I said 

[KSt8er]

My only concern with Klien is why the frack he wasn't our QB this year if he has what it takes?  Dude had to know the playbook better than Gregory, and unless I'm missing something this is telling me he's somehow worse than GG and is our projected starter for next year?  Holy frack, shoot me. 

GG was possibly the worst QB ever at KSU for God's sake. 

[catzacker]

Maybe more balls weren't thown to Lamark because he doesn't have the ability to get open?  May just be LFBIQ on my part.

 

Agree, as wiley mentioned, the reason he got open against ISU was the DB actually fell down.

I looked up for the past 10 years how some of our fifth-leading receivers in the past improved as seniors.  Not much.  We're talking about Ernie Pierce, Daniel Gonzalez and Derrick Evans types here.  If Lamark at all wants to play on Sundays, for his own good, he will beg the coaches to let him try to switch to defense.

did you watch our receivers and the routes they ran?  lamark was basically running fly routes on every play while banks and or snipes were running underneath routes.  When we actually decided to throw to lamark in routes that were similar to the ones that banks runs, we marched down the field against ku and scored.  how "open" do you need to get on a WR screen?  I thought snyds and/or gregory, for whatever reasons, focused on getting it to banks.  if it's because lamark can't catch in practice, fine, but he certainly didn't show that he couldn't when we threw it to him.  

also, for the record, I was on the "lamark to defense" bandwagon the moment he stepped on campus.  but that ship has sailed. 

[wiley03]

deficiencies in our QB's led to a lot of issues with Lamark as well as him just not being a fundamentally sound WR.  When we moved him to the right side of the formation and he had 1on1 coverage, he was tough to stop (see ku).  But the guy doesn't finish routes, looks lost when he breaks a route to help the QB who's running for his life.  Doesn't use his body to keep defenders away from the ball.  Guy needs to make some serious strides.  He had to run a fly route because he slowed down so much when he made a cut, you are supposed to gain separation on a cut, not lose it.

[Legore]

Lamark's not moving to defense.  For one thing he's a senior and he would just go over there and be a back up to some slow midget like Hrebec.  For another he's pretty much the only experienced WR that we have coming back. 

Maybe the guy would have made a good LB maybe he wouldn't have.  More then likely he's just not as good at football as people thought he was.  He's a decent receiver that can present match up problems at times.  He's not a game changer or anything but he'll make some plays.    Part of the deal I think people are missing is that at one point he quit the team and then later came back.  Once you do that coaches tend not to make  you as big a part of the game plan at least for a little while until you regain some trust.   

[michigancat]

Maybe more balls weren't thown to Lamark because he doesn't have the ability to get open?  May just be LFBIQ on my part.

 

Agree, as wiley mentioned, the reason he got open against ISU was the DB actually fell down.

I looked up for the past 10 years how some of our fifth-leading receivers in the past improved as seniors.  Not much.  We're talking about Ernie Pierce, Daniel Gonzalez and Derrick Evans types here.  If Lamark at all wants to play on Sundays, for his own good, he will beg the coaches to let him try to switch to defense.

did you watch our receivers and the routes they ran?  lamark was basically running fly routes on every play while banks and or snipes were running underneath routes.  When we actually decided to throw to lamark in routes that were similar to the ones that banks runs, we marched down the field against ku and scored.  how "open" do you need to get on a WR screen?  I thought snyds and/or gregory, for whatever reasons, focused on getting it to banks.  if it's because lamark can't catch in practice, fine, but he certainly didn't show that he couldn't when we threw it to him. 

also, for the record, I was on the "lamark to defense" bandwagon the moment he stepped on campus.  but that ship has sailed. 

Yeah, not getting open didn't seem to prevent us from throwing it to Banks when he was covered.  And I don't remember Banks EVER catching a ball where he was covered.

[Big Sam]

Maybe more balls weren't thown to Lamark because he doesn't have the ability to get open?  May just be LFBIQ on my part.

 

Agree, as wiley mentioned, the reason he got open against ISU was the DB actually fell down.

I looked up for the past 10 years how some of our fifth-leading receivers in the past improved as seniors.  Not much.  We're talking about Ernie Pierce, Daniel Gonzalez and Derrick Evans types here.  If Lamark at all wants to play on Sundays, for his own good, he will beg the coaches to let him try to switch to defense.

did you watch our receivers and the routes they ran?  lamark was basically running fly routes on every play while banks and or snipes were running underneath routes.  When we actually decided to throw to lamark in routes that were similar to the ones that banks runs, we marched down the field against ku and scored.  how "open" do you need to get on a WR screen?  I thought snyds and/or gregory, for whatever reasons, focused on getting it to banks.  if it's because lamark can't catch in practice, fine, but he certainly didn't show that he couldn't when we threw it to him. 

also, for the record, I was on the "lamark to defense" bandwagon the moment he stepped on campus.  but that ship has sailed. 

Yeah, not getting open didn't seem to prevent us from throwing it to Banks when he was covered.  And I don't remember Banks EVER catching a ball where he was covered.

I don't know.  He was open on the big ISU touchdown.  However, it was underthrown and allowed the coverage back in the play.

Just sayin'....

Sam S.

[frankencat]

So, really ............What did Stan say?

what I said 

That's it?  No whiskey 'n women stories, nuthin?

[schreds21]

My only concern with Klien is why the frack he wasn't our QB this year if he has what it takes?  Dude had to know the playbook better than Gregory, and unless I'm missing something this is telling me he's somehow worse than GG and is our projected starter for next year?  Holy frack, shoot me. 

GG was possibly the worst QB ever at KSU for God's sake. 

You never saw Smargiasso play did you?

[opcat]

My only concern with Klien is why the frack he wasn't our QB this year if he has what it takes?  Dude had to know the playbook better than Gregory, and unless I'm missing something this is telling me he's somehow worse than GG and is our projected starter for next year?  Holy frack, shoot me. 

GG was possibly the worst QB ever at KSU for God's sake. 

exactly.

[Big Sam]

My only concern with Klien is why the frack he wasn't our QB this year if he has what it takes?  Dude had to know the playbook better than Gregory, and unless I'm missing something this is telling me he's somehow worse than GG and is our projected starter for next year?  Holy frack, shoot me. 

GG was possibly the worst QB ever at KSU for God's sake. 

exactly.

schreds is right.  Smargiasso was beyond horrible.  I can't imagine a worse quarterback.

Sam S.

[wiley03]

I beg to differ, and this guy had a Heisman worthy tailback

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSZDns_D8Qs

[~WabashRoll~]

My only concern with Klien is why the frack he wasn't our QB this year if he has what it takes?  Dude had to know the playbook better than Gregory, and unless I'm missing something this is telling me he's somehow worse than GG and is our projected starter for next year?  Holy frack, shoot me. 

GG was possibly the worst QB ever at KSU for God's sake. 

exactly.

schreds is right.  Smargiasso was beyond horrible.  I can't imagine a worse quarterback.

Sam S.

I can.  One that was third string behind Carson Coffman all season.

[~WabashRoll~]

By the way Stan did confirm that VK has not moved his family to Manhattan.

Just in case anyone was wondering.

[catzacker]

By the way Stan did confirm that VK has not moved his family to Manhattan.

Just in case anyone was wondering.

awesome news.  I loves me a chris cosh defense.   

[fatty fat fat]

By the way Stan did confirm that VK has not moved his family to Manhattan.

Just in case anyone was wondering.

awesome news.  I loves me a chris cosh defense.   

ISWT.

[cireksu]

This is a quick stop for vk.

[catzacker]

I bet with all the job movements in the off season, he'll find work quick. 

[~WabashRoll~]

Loves what Koening has done for defense. Vic's family didn't move to Manhattan, so what he does next year is unknown. Finances seem to dictate that he must find another job in the South Carolina/North Carolina area or stay put. Misses his kids.

Many people believe/have heard he will not be back. The financial issue is that he cannot sell his house back in S.C. K-State pays him well.

he was responding to a rumor. Doesn't know anything, but laid out Vic's problem. Wife won't move to Manhattan, didn't move to Clemson either, but lives in S. Carolina/N. Carolina area.

Vic is supporting 2 homes (Clemson & wife's) plus renting here. Tough to do on coach's salary so decision must be made. He must secure a job in wife's area, or back to Clemson area, OR make a committment to stay (sell the Clemson house and say goodbye to wife). Lots of pressure on him.

[michigancat]

vic sounds like a gigantic loser.

[sonofdaxjones]

The Clemson area is a tough housing market right now . . . my in-laws had a beautiful home in that area that they basically had to give away to get it sold.   

[kougar24]

So, really ............What did Stan say?

"00001110001101010111110000001111010001101010101011111110001010010101010010001010101."

[Bullfn33]

vic sounds like a gigantic loser.

qft

[~WabashRoll~]

The Clemson area is a tough housing market right now . . .    

I'm sure it is.  I just wish for once the dead weight working for OB would be stuck in these absurd predicaments.

Not that I would expect anything different. Snyder's inability to retain the top assistants on his staff is par for the course.  It is just like old times around here.

[Pete]

So, really ............What did Stan say?

We have lost our mole on the inside of this elite organization.

[MadCat]

So, really ............What did Stan say?

"00001110001101010111110000001111010001101010101011111110001010010101010010001010101."

Translation: DESTROY ALL HUMANS
 

[stormnut]

So, really ............What did Stan say?

"00001110001101010111110000001111010001101010101011111110001010010101010010001010101."

Translation: DESTROY ALL HUMANS
 

that's new binary, this is clearly old binary. It says.
 
All your base are belong to us

[catzacker]

vic sounds like a gigantic loser.

actually,  it kind of sounds like his wife is an incredible bitch.  i mean, jfc you dumb cvnt, the only reason you have a house is because you laid on your back for him, the least you could do is let the man work.

[chum1]

Man, I took so much sh*t for insisting that we not f*ck around with Lamark at WR.  I wish he would have been the next TO, bros, but it was just a pretty stupid idea all along.