JMart, JMart, JMart....

[plaincat]

I can't stop laughing.  That thing is going to the Warzone.

[Dan Rydell]

There you go again.  Yeah, you have some moral obligation to keep old Ron on the straight and narrow.  Doing it all for us fans, eh?  Not all of us are as stupid as you give us credit for.  Just admit it.  You were being a smart ass because you could.  Oh, that's right.  You can't admit that, because it would taint your journalistic integrety.

It's going to be fun times when Tyree Evans shows up at KSU.  It's going to happen, but you already know that, don't you?   JMart's ticket out of podunk Wichita.  I can see it now.  "So Tim....  I thought you said you weren't allowing Bob Huggins to recruit criminals.  What do you have to say for yourself?"  Fun times.

Tell the truth Scuba.  He couldn't really have avoided all of this.  If it wasn't this, it would be something else.  You're so full of it.  You're loving every minute of this.  You and fatty are two of a kind.  Fatty lives to get people's goat and so do you.  Just admit it.  You spout this .... journalistic integrity.... blah blah blah.  You are a sonofdaxjones in the making.  Not such a bad thing, really.  I like dax's work.  I like fatty's work too, but don't try to feed us this "holier than thou" crap.

You went into this thread with one goal.  "I'm going to make him admit to something he doesn't want to admit to.  If not, I'm going to rip him for it.  Either way, I get attention from the KSU beat writer.  Damn I'm good... heh... heh... heh."

Give me a break.  You could care less that JMart is asking Prince the tough questions, in fact you're happy that he is.  It gives you something to begin asinine threads about.

 

 

[WILDCAT NATION]

Dude, are you serious? The man contradicts himself. That's my issue. I couldn't care less who the freakin' starting quarterback is. Not one bit. My issue is when he says one thing and does something totally different. To me, that's being dishonest, and to me, that's a lack of respect from someone I have to have a working, professional relationship with. He could have avoided all of this, as someone pointed out earlier, by simply saying the quarterback position is different. But he didn't.

I asked him a question. He walked away. Even a simple 'no comment' would have sufficed. Instead, he walked away. That's ridiculous.

Tell the truth Jeff.  He couldn't really have avoided all of this.  If it wasn't this, it would be something else.  You're so full of it.  You're loving every minute of this.  You and fatty are two of a kind.  Fatty lives to get people's goat and so do you.  Just admit it.  You spout this .... professionl relationship.... blah blah blah.  You are a Whitlock in the making.  Not such a bad thing, really.  I like Jason's work.  I like fatty's work too, but don't try to feed us this "holier than thou" crap.

You went into that press conference with one goal.  "I'm going to make him admit to something he doesn't want to admit to.  If not, I'm going to rip him for it.  Either way, I get a good story.  Damn I'm good... heh... heh... heh."

Give me a break.  You could care less that Ron is a hypocrit, in fact you're happy that he is.  It gives you something to write about.

Tim, Tell Prince he can quit with the act...all he's gonna be judged on is W's and L's.

[michigancat]

[ScubaSteve]

Nah, that's bull@#%$.

Go back and check EVERYTHING I've written about Prince. There have been plenty of positive things, especially early on.

I've been plenty fair.

Scuba, what do you do, anyway? Just curious...

It's Bull@#%$ that I am on the fence regarding your reporting?  Not sure why.

I have probably read just about everything you have written.  I live in Wichita and subscribe to the Eagle.  I frequent your Q&A on the Eagle's site.  I've seen most, if not all of your posts here.  Am I missing anything?  Have I said you haven't been fair?  It almost sounds as if you are trying to convince yourself.  Maybe YOU should go back and check everything you have written.  LOL.

What started this thread today was your justification of why you wrote what you did.  It just smelled of BS to me.  That's all.  I suppose I could be wrong.  I obviously don't know you personally, but I just get the impression that you write an article and then you and Levi go off to the bar and giggle about it.  Sorry, that's just what I'm getting from you.  Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Financial Services, by the way.

[Jeffrey_Martin]

In fact, I don't think he gives two rips either way about KSU. 

Bingo.

Are you suggesting that I should have some personal investment, some tie to the university that I'm paid to cover? Somebody hasn't been informed about what it is we do.

I do think its odd that you come to their message boards though.  Do you visit other schools boards as well?

I was invited to come here. I'm not a fan, but I like to stay on top of things.

[WilliamTheWildcat]

I hope you keep visiting.  I like the insight from your perspective. 

Plus the chat room was hilarious.  Usually I can't stand that stuff.  But with the right mix of fans, like we have on this board, it's a frappin' riot.

[michigancat]

Don't scare J-Mart off until he answers all of stunner's and my Mayo questions.

[Dan Rydell]

What started this thread today was your justification of why you wrote what you did.  It just smelled of BS to me.  That's all.  I suppose I could be wrong.  I obviously don't know you personally, but I just get the impression that you write an article and then you and Levi go off to the bar and giggle about it.  Sorry, that's just what I'm getting from you.  Not that there is anything wrong with that.

No, what started this thread was when you sat down and typed out a post to stir things up.

[Jeffrey_Martin]

Nah, that's bull@#%$.

Go back and check EVERYTHING I've written about Prince. There have been plenty of positive things, especially early on.

I've been plenty fair.

Scuba, what do you do, anyway? Just curious...

It's Bull@#%$ that I am on the fence regarding your reporting?  Not sure why.

I have probably read just about everything you have written.  I live in Wichita and subscribe to the Eagle.  I frequent your Q&A on the Eagle's site.  I've seen most, if not all of your posts here.  Am I missing anything?  Have I said you haven't been fair?  It almost sounds as if you are trying to convince yourself.  Maybe YOU should go back and check everything you have written.  LOL.

What started this thread today was your justification of why you wrote what you did.  It just smelled of BS to me.  That's all.  I suppose I could be wrong.  I obviously don't know you personally, but I just get the impression that you write an article and then you and Levi go off to the bar and giggle about it.  Sorry, that's just what I'm getting from you.  Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Financial Services, by the way.

Cool. Let's squash this.

[PoetWarrior]

Never give up on the quest for truth Scuba.

[PCR]

Here's how we settle this issue:

[FBWillie]

[cireksu]

Actually fatty, it looks more like Australia.

[ScubaSteve]

Too many words in this topic to actually read all of it, but I think what SS is getting at is this.  Why are you asking questions designed to make the coach look foolish and then be up in arms that he just walks away from you?  Personally I don't care or mind if you ask those kinds of questions, but maybe you shouldn't be up in arms over his reaction, or if it turns out RP doesn't want to be your buddy.  I think the Journalistic integrity angle comes in when it comes to whether you are simply reporting the news or if you are trying to make the news.  Either way, at least somebody is taking the K-State beat seriously in the state. 

Here's the thing, the question wasn't designed to make RP look foolish. It was designed to get to the bottom of this contradiction that RP has been spewing for weeks, now. As it's already been pointed out several times, the answer was a  simple one, and, despite what many of you think, RP didn't have to throw Dylan under the bus. All he had to say was something along the lines of, "Because of the importance of the quarterback position, our competition theory isn't as prevelant as it is at other positions..." or something along those lines.

It was made even easier when J-Mart waited until after the formal press conference and asked him off to the side. But instead of talking around the pointed questions like he does so often, RP opted to push the question back on J-Mart then walk away. J-Mart wasn't asking to be his buddy, he was asking for a clarification. He didn't get it, nor did he get the same respect from RP that he showed RP by asking the question off to the side.

It's funny, because if Prince would have answered the question, talked himself around the question or said "no comment", none of this would be an issue. Instead, J-Mart reports how RP handled "answered" the questions, and J-Mart is the one getting ridiculed. It makes no sense.

That's right Levi.... you get to the bottom of this contradiction!!  The fate of the sports world may depend on it!!

That's priceless.

 

[Levi Wolters]

Bigger picture, Scuub.

[ScubaSteve]

Bigger picture, Scuub.

Ahh.... Levi tips his hand at the dirty laundry expose to come on the seedy underbelly of what is the Prince regime.

Is that coming in Sunday's paper?  I can't wait.

What's next?  Is Ron making all of the assistant coaches work out and he secretly skips his work outs?  Was he lying about reading a book a day?  Did he secretly not set fire to his ship before he came ashore?

You know what I bet the situation really is?  It's not really a story though.  Prince just isn't quite seasoned enough to be a championship caliber coach.  But everyone did pick us to finish last in the conference.  That's not really a story is it?

[Levi Wolters]

Bigger picture, Scuub.

Ahh.... Levi tips his hand at the dirty laundry expose to come on the seedy underbelly of what is the Prince regime.

Is that coming in Sunday's paper?  I can't wait.

Not that big.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Methinks one too many journalists have reported the dark side of Ksu and Scuba considers this his chance to strike back.

So there you have JMart... A disgruntled fan that was unhappy about your journalistic habits/reporting regarding his alma mater.

[cireksu]

What darkside?

Why havent' you addressed any of my questions goldy?

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

"Prince to the media: "Competition for every position wins championships."
Prince to Freeman: "The jobs all yours baby."

He  won the job, he beat out his competitor he is better than the guy he went up against.  You'd make a @#%$ty football coach goldy.

No, he didn't win the job. He got the job because he's young and in the long haul, he gets experience playing now. Not because he's the clear cut better quarterback. Also, Meier has a 0% chance to take the position back. Which means no competition. And as we said before, Prince is pimping competition for all positions still.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

What darkside?

Why havent' you addressed any of my questions goldy?

Which ones didn't I address?

And by darkside, I mean anything negative regarding Ksu's athletic department and its coaches/staff/players.

[Dan Rydell]

Too many words in this topic to actually read all of it, but I think what SS is getting at is this.  Why are you asking questions designed to make the coach look foolish and then be up in arms that he just walks away from you?  Personally I don't care or mind if you ask those kinds of questions, but maybe you shouldn't be up in arms over his reaction, or if it turns out RP doesn't want to be your buddy.  I think the Journalistic integrity angle comes in when it comes to whether you are simply reporting the news or if you are trying to make the news.  Either way, at least somebody is taking the K-State beat seriously in the state. 

Here's the thing, the question wasn't designed to make RP look foolish. It was designed to get to the bottom of this contradiction that RP has been spewing for weeks, now. As it's already been pointed out several times, the answer was a  simple one, and, despite what many of you think, RP didn't have to throw Dylan under the bus. All he had to say was something along the lines of, "Because of the importance of the quarterback position, our competition theory isn't as prevelant as it is at other positions..." or something along those lines.

It was made even easier when J-Mart waited until after the formal press conference and asked him off to the side. But instead of talking around the pointed questions like he does so often, RP opted to push the question back on J-Mart then walk away. J-Mart wasn't asking to be his buddy, he was asking for a clarification. He didn't get it, nor did he get the same respect from RP that he showed RP by asking the question off to the side.

It's funny, because if Prince would have answered the question, talked himself around the question or said "no comment", none of this would be an issue. Instead, J-Mart reports how RP handled "answered" the questions, and J-Mart is the one getting ridiculed. It makes no sense.

That's right Levi.... you get to the bottom of this contradiction!!  The fate of the sports world may depend on it!!

That's priceless.

 

Sheesh, dude...give it a rest already.  To quote a wise man, Levi and JMart don't come down to where you work and slap the...etc. etc. etc....

[pissclams]

This turned into a really boring thread.

It needs more juicy rumors and less "journalistic integrity" debate.

JMO.

Why is coach snyder wearing a green australia?

[ScubaSteve]

Sheesh, dude...give it a rest already.  To quote a wise man, Levi and JMart don't come down to where you work and slap the...etc. etc. etc....

That's funny.  They go down to Ron Prince's work and do just that.

[Dan Rydell]

Sheesh, dude...give it a rest already.  To quote a wise man, Levi and JMart don't come down to where you work and slap the...etc. etc. etc....

That's funny.  They go down to Ron Prince's work and do just that.

They're paid to ask questions of the head of a state university's D-I football program.  You, on the other hand, are a troll who doesn't seem to have a real point in this entire thread.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Scuba, what should Jmart do differently according to you?

[cireksu]

Anyone who has watched Dylan meier and Josh freeman in 06  and doesn't think JF is the better option is either a ku fan or mentally retarded.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Anyone who has watched Dylan meier and Josh freeman in 06  and doesn't think JF is the better option is either a ku fan or mentally retarded.

Name           G    QBRat   Att   Comp   Pct   Yds   Y/A   Y/G        TD     Int   Long  Sack YdsL   
Dylan Meier   6    98.7    137    69    50.4    765    5.6    127.5      3      4     44      2        0    
Josh Freeman   6    75.8    128    52    40.6    726    5.7    121.0    0    8    68     13       0    

Obviously, Freeman is better.

[PoetWarrior]

I'll say this, it wasn't smart of Martin to come onto an internet message board with his real name.

Shows a lack of internet message board savy.

Blending reality and the internet is dangerous.