Good God, no wonder Nubb has a top 10 defense

[j@yh@wks]

So tell us genius ( this should be good ) if ISU would of recovered 8 TO's from KSU would your D hold them to 9 points??

Don't think so....thanks for playing

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy. 

[vanro03]

Sir 11/11,
 Here is a little hint for you:
Cody Green, QB, Nebraska. Green became the Huskers’ first true freshman starter at quarterback since Tommie Frazier in 1992, getting the call at Baylor. While his numbers were modest, the Huskers won. And the clock on the Green era appears to have officially begun.
So the Huskers are starting a 4 string FRESHMEN QB. Kind of kills your point..
Where is the review of the Huskers QB's and RB's for this year?

[vanro03]

So tell us genius ( this should be good ) if ISU would of recovered 8 TO's from KSU would your D hold them to 9 points??

Don't think so....thanks for playing

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy. 

Gayhawk,
You playing the If and Buts game. If the Huskers don't have 8 turnover would that be 42 more points Nebraska would have scored.
Is it true that you are a Poultry Sex Offender?

[ew2x4]

Did Husker Pride really just use the fact he didn't reply immediately as a put down? LMAO!

[novembereleven]

Vanro...I was discussing the defense, but it goes well beyond just the QB play and experience on the offensive side.  Sorry I haven't responded, as things like work and social life have made my “expert”  offensive analysis kind of difficult.  

Let me preface my opinion of your offense by asking why the hell Nebraska was all bluster prior to the year when anyone could see the losses were substantial from last year and that there would be a drop-off?  Is it just a product of the media picking the usual suspects or Nubb fans begging for acknowledgment after a very average bowl win vs. an equally average Clemson team (both selected solely to sell more tickets during a recession)?  It was similar with Mizzou, but the pundits weren't listening.  I guess it could be simply because you had to pick someone in the North?  I honestly don't have the answer.

As for the Nebraska offense (as I see it):

QB- Yes Cody Green is a true freshman who is starting prematurely, solely for the failings of the kid who should have been 2nd string this year, Zac Lee.  Quite a difference in your starting QB being no good and having a Heisman candidate (Baylor and OU) get hurt.  So don't even try to make that argument with me.  Witt should have been your QB, but he bolted and left you with poor replacements.  Ganz was (surprisingly) going to be tough to replace no matter who would have taken over.  This should have been the first sign, but as usual it wasn't heeded by the Sker fans who carried on about Lee's daddy being a former NFL QB.

RB- You were left with little depth after the departure of Marlon Lucky and dismissal of Quentin Castille.  Helu is good, but as the workhorse his body is breaking down.  He didn't carry the majority of the workload last year with a nice stable of backs, until late in the year.  So he stayed somewhat healthy.  Lucky wasn't the world beater than Nubb fans claimed he'd be, but he was a nice Big 12 back with very good pass catching skills.  I'll take Lucky and Castille splitting time with the #1 over a true frosh (injured Rex Burkhead) any day.  Again, the handwriting was on the wall, but Nubb fans weren't in the mood for reading.

WR- This one pains me, as I was always a skeptic about Swift and Peterson (ie. the great white hopes).  But these guys quietly (and spectacularly from time-to-time) produced, to the tune of 1,700 yards last year.  How in the world did you expect this kind of production to be replaced without fail?  Holt and Paul may have come to Sker nation with much more bluster (common these days as recruiting stars are the only thing that matters in Huskerland).  But nobody should have anticipated their production to match that of departed Sr's Swift and Peterson.  I didn't...did you?

TE- McNeill's one of the best in the Big 12 and was last year too.  

OL- What did you have 2 or 3 returning starters this year?  Last year's group did pretty well, but there were holes to fill (pun intended) and it appears you're having a little bit of trouble filling those holes.  When I heard the name of KSU castoff Derek Meyer being thrown around in the summer I thought this might be the case.  But I don't think the OL issues are as bad as the skill positions, particularly QB and RB.

Finally- NU really has no offensive identity anymore.  If I tried to describe what you do the term "pro-style" would be used...surely with a "sort-of" comment following.  I'd venture that KSU has more offensive identity after 3/4 of a year under Snyder than Pelini and crew have established after 1 3/4 years at the helm.  It's kind of like the confusion Hawkins has wrought at Colorado...with a less talented Buffs team.  

Ok...there you go Vanro.  You guys still might win the North, but you according to the pre-season hype you should have done so going away considering the breaks you've had with opposition QB's.  My QB breakdown just further illustrates this point.      

[EllToPay]

omg 11/11 is absolutely schucking these cornholes.

[FHSU92]

While Nebraska is in second place in the Big 12 North behind Kansas State and their defense is actually pretty stingy, (No. 4 in scoring defense), their 5-3 record is a bit deceiving. Three of their wins are against the Sun Belt Conference also-rans Florida Atlantic, Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette while the other two teams they beat (Missouri and Baylor) have a collective 1-7 conference record.

A little diff perspective on the powerful Nubs

from: http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/pgStory?contentId=10313322#sport=COLLEGE%20FOOTBALL&photo=10313264

 

[vanro03]

While Nebraska is in second place in the Big 12 North behind Kansas State and their defense is actually pretty stingy, (No. 4 in scoring defense), their 5-3 record is a bit deceiving. Three of their wins are against the Sun Belt Conference also-rans Florida Atlantic, Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette while the other two teams they beat (Missouri and Baylor) have a collective 1-7 conference record.

A little diff perspective on the powerful Nubs

from: http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/pgStory?contentId=10313322#sport=COLLEGE%20FOOTBALL&photo=10313264

 

Remember that KSU needs to win 7 games to be in a bowl game due to your schedule.

[vanro03]

what 3-5 decent/good QB's all year, half of which were injured?  Pathetic! Bang Head
For those keeping score at home...that's 1-First Stringer, 2-2nd Stringers
and 1-3rd String QB at the midway point of the Big 12 season....two on bad lower extremeties. 

Thanks for the above update and making my point.
So this seems to be the case in alot of teams this year.
The blackshirts are paper tigers because of others teams injuries?
Huskers could be undefended if no one gets hurt on offense.
That's a dumb ass statement but goes with yours about the Husker D.

Huskers now have the 5th string quarterback starting(freshman)
and running the 4th and 5th string RB.(freshman).
Roster in February:
QB:
1). Witt
2a).Spano
2b).Lee
3). Green
RB:
1). Helu
2). Castille
3). Burkhead
4). Robinson
5). Ward

Roster Today:
Witt - Transfer
Spano - Hurt, out for the year.
Lee - Benched.
Green - True freshman now starting.
Washington - Converted DB now playing QB.
RB:
Helu - Bad shoulder. Basically done for the year.
Castille - Kicked off team for bong hits.
Burkhead - Out for year with broke foot.
Robinson - Freshman getting most of the work.
Ward - Another freshman getting time.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

11/11 just going through these dudes like a combine through old corn.

[vanro03]

11/11 just going through these dudes like a combine through old corn.

Really? perhaps you should try reading with both eyes open.

[chum1]

This smack-off was awesome in 2001.

[EllToPay]

So tell us genius ( this should be good ) if ISU would of recovered 8 TO's from KSU would your D hold them to 9 points??

Don't think so....thanks for playing

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy. 

Gayhawk,
You playing the If and Buts game. If the Huskers don't have 8 turnover would that be 42 more points Nebraska would have scored.
Is it true that you are a Poultry Sex Offender?

are you saying that on every possession that nebraska committed a turnover, they would have scored a td? that's what you're insinuating, right?
 

[vanro03]

Did you watch the game or were you too busy working changing bed pans?

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy.

Just a reply to the dumb ass comment made above. Iowa State's starting QB and RB would not have made much a difference in the outcome.

[EllToPay]

Did you watch the game or were you too busy working changing bed pans?

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy.

Just a reply to the dumb ass comment made above. Iowa State's starting QB and RB would not have made much a difference in the outcome.

LFBIQ.

[vanro03]

ESAD

[Legore]

Did you watch the game or were you too busy working changing bed pans?

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy.

Just a reply to the dumb ass comment made above. Iowa State's starting QB and RB would not have made much a difference in the outcome.

You're right they would have made no difference in the outcome.  Either way Iowa State would have won which is all that really matters.  

[LimestoneOutcropping]

11/11 just going through these dudes like a combine through old corn.

Really? perhaps you should try reading with both eyes open.

He is hammering you bro.  Sucks for you but it is obvious.

[vanro03]

No, he made my point that the Huskers defense ranking has nothing to do with the QB's we have played this year.
Did I type that slow enough for you?

[vanro03]

Did you watch the game or were you too busy working changing bed pans?

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy.

Just a reply to the dumb ass comment made above. Iowa State's starting QB and RB would not have made much a difference in the outcome.

You're right they would have made no difference in the outcome.  Either way Iowa State would have won which is all that really matters.  

Yep, when you turnover the ball eight times the odds are against you on winning the game.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

No, he made my point that the Huskers defense ranking has nothing to do with the QB's we have played this year.
Did I type that slow enough for you?

Type it as slow as you want professor, he is dismantling you.

[vanro03]

What ever pinhead.. Didn't realize that this was "Jerry's Kids" week on the board.

[ew2x4]

What ever pinhead.. Didn't realize that this was "Jerry's Kids" week on the board.

Call into Keitz and get laughed at for being the third husker fan in a row for saying NU is unstoppable. 

[vanro03]

What ever pinhead.. Didn't realize that this was "Jerry's Kids" week on the board.

Call into Keitz and get laughed at for being the third husker fan in a row for saying NU is unstoppable. 

We are unstoppable. No reason to stop us, just wait for us to turn it over to you.
OU has 11/11 and Bookie Pimp starting as LB this weekend. Their job? sit and wait for the ball to roll to them and fall on it. 

[Legore]

Did you watch the game or were you too busy working changing bed pans?

had isu had their starting QB, who is very good, and their B12 leading RB for the game in lincoln, you guys lose by 20 at the least.  Easy.

Just a reply to the dumb ass comment made above. Iowa State's starting QB and RB would not have made much a difference in the outcome.

You're right they would have made no difference in the outcome.  Either way Iowa State would have won which is all that really matters.  

Yep, when you turnover the ball eight times the odds are against you on winning the game.

Yep, also when you turnover the ball eight times in one game odds are against you being any good at all.  This is the point I think the Nebraska fans seem to be missing.  I don't remember the Patriots turning it over 8 times and bragging about how they still kept the score close.  If you're defense was as good as you think perhaps you might have actually taken it away from Iowa State and their backup QB once or twice.    

[vanro03]

That was one game, we cut the fumbles back against Baylor. We started throwing Pick 6's against Baylor. The D-Line for the Huskers is the best in the Big 12, but it's average from there back.

[novembereleven]

The problem with your rebuttal vanro was all the nonsense I was reading from the Nubbs came this summer and fall.  Not February!  I'm certain of this because I don't go near Husker Illustrated during recruiting season.  You see the Nubb recruiting articles from Roz, Mike Matya and Rick Shaw (what kind of stupid name is that) read like homoerotic fiction night at the gayest San Francisco bath house.  Once the "blue chippers" ACTUAL PERFORMANCE starts feeling like bath house fisting night for Nubb fans, then I'll have a look at the articles for a good laugh.  I highly recommend checking out the lovefest for Zac Lee and Cody Green when these four star QB's committed.  

Let's just stop with the revisionist history and realize that Witt was long gone and Spano down with a knee injury when I was reading how great Lee and Green were going to be and how anybody picking Mizzou or ku were idiots.  Your recollection of where these guys stood upon Witt's departure is completely wrong.  Check out this online poll of your fellow Sker nuts at the time.  
www.cornnation.com/2009/2/22/768225/patrick-witt-decides-to-tr

Projected Nubb Starter (post-Witt transfer)
53% - Lee
14% - Green
 6% - Spano
 3% - Alternating
22%- No idea

Quite different from your pity party isn't it?  I don't see Spano being "2A"...do you?  By the way, how is Green the 5th stringer, when you only have 4 listed

Furthermore, the Husker "authority" who wrote the article, Husker Mike, put it in less sympathetic terms, painting the rosy red picture a little brighter, even if Witt had stayed:

"Going into spring practice, I really wasn't sure where Nebraska was going to go for a quarterback.  I had it about 34% Witt, 33% Lee, 20% Green, 10% chance of alternating quarterbacks, and 3% Spano.  The only reason why Witt was ahead was simply because he edged out Lee this season."

Have another look at the fabricated depth you outlined.  Feel stupid?

Equally stupid is your analysis of the RB's.  

RB:
Helu - ("Basically" still playing with carries last week and the week before)
Castille - (It appears he has vanro's company on the bubbly pipe)
Burkhead - (Heard he'd likely be back for Colorado and definitely for a bowl game)
Robinson - (RB coach Tim Beck planned on playing Robinson this year at the beginning of camp)
Ward - (Started camp behind only Helu and Castille)

HI Premium article:  http://nebraska.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=928&CID=975240

So in reality you're starting your second string QB because your starter sucks (but is available) and you're playing your 1st, 3rd and 4th string running backs with your 2nd stringer coming back soon.  The Sooners, Clones and Bears wish they were that healthy!

[FHSU92]

That was one game, we cut the fumbles back against Baylor. We started throwing Pick 6's against Baylor. The D-Line for the Huskers is the best in the Big 12, but it's average from there back.

Impressive, something to hang your corn-hat-thingy on.

[ksuFB]

The problem with your rebuttal vanro was all the nonsense I was reading from the Nubbs came this summer and fall.  Not February!  I'm certain of this because I don't go near Husker Illustrated during recruiting season.  You see the Nubb recruiting articles from Roz, Mike Matya and Rick Shaw (what kind of stupid name is that) read like homoerotic fiction night at the gayest San Francisco bath house.  Once the "blue chippers" ACTUAL PERFORMANCE starts feeling like bath house fisting night for Nubb fans, then I'll have a look at the articles for a good laugh.  I highly recommend checking out the lovefest for Zac Lee and Cody Green when these four star QB's committed.  

Let's just stop with the revisionist history and realize that Witt was long gone and Spano down with a knee injury when I was reading how great Lee and Green were going to be and how anybody picking Mizzou or ku were idiots.  Your recollection of where these guys stood upon Witt's departure is completely wrong.  Check out this online poll of your fellow Sker nuts at the time.  
www.cornnation.com/2009/2/22/768225/patrick-witt-decides-to-tr

Projected Nubb Starter (post-Witt transfer)
53% - Lee
14% - Green
 6% - Spano
 3% - Alternating
22%- No idea

Quite different from your pity party isn't it?  I don't see Spano being "2A"...do you?  By the way, how is Green the 5th stringer, when you only have 4 listed

Furthermore, the Husker "authority" who wrote the article, Husker Mike, put it in less sympathetic terms, painting the rosy red picture a little brighter, even if Witt had stayed:

"Going into spring practice, I really wasn't sure where Nebraska was going to go for a quarterback.  I had it about 34% Witt, 33% Lee, 20% Green, 10% chance of alternating quarterbacks, and 3% Spano.  The only reason why Witt was ahead was simply because he edged out Lee this season."

Have another look at the fabricated depth you outlined.  Feel stupid?

Equally stupid is your analysis of the RB's.  

RB:
Helu - ("Basically" still playing with carries last week and the week before)
Castille - (It appears he has vanro's company on the bubbly pipe)
Burkhead - (Heard he'd likely be back for Colorado and definitely for a bowl game)
Robinson - (RB coach Tim Beck planned on playing Robinson this year at the beginning of camp)
Ward - (Started camp behind only Helu and Castille)

HI Premium article:  http://nebraska.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=928&CID=975240

So in reality you're starting your second string QB because your starter sucks (but is available) and you're playing your 1st, 3rd and 4th string running backs with your 2nd stringer coming back soon.  The Sooners, Clones and Bears wish they were that healthy!

For someone who makes themselves out to be smarter than everyone else you sure have alot to learn. You do realize that all the clippings that you read are just speculation and conjecture plus opinions. The only people who know for sure are the ones who coach and evaluate on a daily basis. Feel stupid?

So all of your hyperbole is based on conjecture and speculation. I'm sure if I wanted to take the time and do as much research as you do that I could find the same about your kitties. But, I have a life.

Your attempts at trying to put a negative spin on our team are just that.We will be homers just as you will be. Why not focus your attention and angst towards ku? Oh that's right, can't get past the envy

[steve dave]

The problem with your rebuttal vanro was all the nonsense I was reading from the Nubbs came this summer and fall.  Not February!  I'm certain of this because I don't go near Husker Illustrated during recruiting season.  You see the Nubb recruiting articles from Roz, Mike Matya and Rick Shaw (what kind of stupid name is that) read like homoerotic fiction night at the gayest San Francisco bath house.  Once the "blue chippers" ACTUAL PERFORMANCE starts feeling like bath house fisting night for Nubb fans, then I'll have a look at the articles for a good laugh.  I highly recommend checking out the lovefest for Zac Lee and Cody Green when these four star QB's committed.  

Let's just stop with the revisionist history and realize that Witt was long gone and Spano down with a knee injury when I was reading how great Lee and Green were going to be and how anybody picking Mizzou or ku were idiots.  Your recollection of where these guys stood upon Witt's departure is completely wrong.  Check out this online poll of your fellow Sker nuts at the time.  
www.cornnation.com/2009/2/22/768225/patrick-witt-decides-to-tr

Projected Nubb Starter (post-Witt transfer)
53% - Lee
14% - Green
 6% - Spano
 3% - Alternating
22%- No idea

Quite different from your pity party isn't it?  I don't see Spano being "2A"...do you?  By the way, how is Green the 5th stringer, when you only have 4 listed

Furthermore, the Husker "authority" who wrote the article, Husker Mike, put it in less sympathetic terms, painting the rosy red picture a little brighter, even if Witt had stayed:

"Going into spring practice, I really wasn't sure where Nebraska was going to go for a quarterback.  I had it about 34% Witt, 33% Lee, 20% Green, 10% chance of alternating quarterbacks, and 3% Spano.  The only reason why Witt was ahead was simply because he edged out Lee this season."

Have another look at the fabricated depth you outlined.  Feel stupid?

Equally stupid is your analysis of the RB's.  

RB:
Helu - ("Basically" still playing with carries last week and the week before)
Castille - (It appears he has vanro's company on the bubbly pipe)
Burkhead - (Heard he'd likely be back for Colorado and definitely for a bowl game)
Robinson - (RB coach Tim Beck planned on playing Robinson this year at the beginning of camp)
Ward - (Started camp behind only Helu and Castille)

HI Premium article:  http://nebraska.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=928&CID=975240

So in reality you're starting your second string QB because your starter sucks (but is available) and you're playing your 1st, 3rd and 4th string running backs with your 2nd stringer coming back soon.  The Sooners, Clones and Bears wish they were that healthy!

JFC