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October 02, 2009, 10:40:45 AM
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/oct/02/ku-police-connect-crimes-sports-brawl/

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ku police connect crimes to sports brawl
By Jesse Fray

October 2, 2009

Kansas University police now are associating two crimes with a public fight that broke out between members of the football and men’s basketball teams.

Officers have opened a disorderly conduct investigation into last week’s melee outside Burge Union, ku Public Safety Office Maj. Chris Keary said Thursday. Initially, police said the incident — which involved as many as 100 people — was not being investigated as a crime.

Police are investigating surveillance video showing a fight between ku's football and basketball teams.

Less than an hour after the fight, police said, a man threatened to shoot a woman in a parking lot outside the nearby Jayhawker Towers, on-campus apartments for student athletes. That crime has now also been linked by police to the Sept. 22 brawl.

“There was some relationship between what was going on at the Towers,” Keary said. “We do believe they were connected.”

Surveillance video obtained by 6News and the Lawrence Journal-World shows dozens of people in the parking lot of the union at the time of the fight, though individual team members cannot be identified.

After the melee — which occurred about 6:30 p.m. and left ku basketball player Tyshawn Taylor with a dislocated thumb — the crowd is seen scattering, just before a police vehicle shows up with its lights on. No arrests have been made, or citations issued, in the case, police and the city prosecutor’s office said.

According to police reports, the dispute apparently spilled across the street to the Towers’ parking lot.

Guy Lipscomb, 19, was arrested and later charged with two counts of criminal threat for allegedly threatening a current and a former track athlete, court documents state.

Lipscomb, who is not a student at ku, was released from Douglas County Jail on $3,000 bond. On Tuesday, his case was set for an Oct. 20 preliminary hearing, court records state.

The female victims of the criminal threat also were associated with a July 25 battery report at Jayhawker Towers, according to police reports.

One of the women was the victim of the battery and received minor injuries. The other witnessed the incident.

Police cited Andrea Johnson, 25, for a charge of misdemeanor battery in that case. She was granted a diversion on Sept. 15 in Lawrence Municipal Court and has been fined $300, the city prosecutor’s office said Thursday.

Miami Heat basketball player Mario Chalmers, a former ku basketball star, was listed as another witness to the incident. It occurred while Chalmers was in town for a golf fundraiser at Alvamar Country Club. Chalmers and Johnson are parents of a child, according to court records.


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

New warning: Don't get in a fight with someone who doesn't even need to bother to buy ink.

October 02, 2009, 12:34:32 PM
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Track team is going to pay a heavy price for this fiasco.

October 02, 2009, 01:01:12 PM
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By Tully Corcoran
October 2, 2009 - 12:27pm
University of Kansas Police have opened a criminal investigation in one of last week's fights between ku football and basketball players, assistant chief of police Chris Keary said.

Keary said police had been investigating all three incidents since they happened, but only the first one, which began about 6:30 p.m. in the parking lot of the Burge Union, Sept. 22, is currently being investigated as a crime.

"That investigation led us to consider disorderly conduct," Keary said.

Named in the police report are Kansas basketball players Sherron Collins, Marcus and Markieff Morris, Mario Little, Thomas Robinson and Elijah Johnson, Kansas football assistant coach George Matsakis, basketball assistant Brett Ballard and associate athletic director Sean Lester. All of them are listed on the report as "other," meaning they are not listed as victims, witnesses or reporting parties.

"They're probably people we talked to," Keary said.

Specific to this case, Keary didn't know why those men were listed as they were. He said suspects would not be listed as "other" or named publicly unless they had been arrested.

Police have made an arrest in an incident Keary believed to be connected to the Burge Union fight. Guy Lipscomb, 19, was arrested and charged with two counts of criminal threat for his role in an incident Sept. 22 in the Jayhawker Towers parking lot.

The Burge Union fight was one of three between ku football and basketball players last week. The most public one happened at about 10 a.m., Sept. 23, in front of Wecoe Hall. Police interviewed ku athletes at the time, but have not yet decided to pursue a criminal investigation.

"We're still looking at that one, too," Keary said.


October 02, 2009, 01:18:53 PM
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Just watched that video on the ljworld site.  Why does ku have segregated student unions?  Don't they understand that "separate" is inherently unequal?

October 02, 2009, 02:20:14 PM
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October 02, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
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George Matsakis was in the video outside the union when Dooley and he were talking to Reed and Teahan.  Former emaw, brother of Manny Matsakis who was the TE/ST coach for EMAW in 1994. 


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New warning: Don't get in a fight with someone who doesn't even need to bother to buy ink.

October 02, 2009, 03:55:03 PM
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October 02, 2009, 04:02:07 PM
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Miami Heat basketball player Mario Chalmers, a former ku basketball star, was listed as another witness to the incident. It occurred while Chalmers was in town for a golf fundraiser at Alvamar Country Club. Chalmers and Johnson are parents of a child, according to court records.

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October 02, 2009, 04:55:16 PM
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October 02, 2009, 08:02:06 PM
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Police cited Andrea Johnson, 25, for a charge of misdemeanor battery in that case. She was granted a diversion on Sept. 15 in Lawrence Municipal Court and has been fined $300, the city prosecutor’s office said Thursday.

Miami Heat basketball player Mario Chalmers, a former ku basketball star, was listed as another witness to the incident. It occurred while Chalmers was in town for a golf fundraiser at Alvamar Country Club. Chalmers and Johnson are parents of a child, according to court records.

HOLY CRAP A ku BASKETBALL PLAYER THAT'S NOT A DEADBEAT DAD!  :eek:

October 03, 2009, 08:04:02 AM
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Police cited Andrea Johnson, 25, for a charge of misdemeanor battery in that case. She was granted a diversion on Sept. 15 in Lawrence Municipal Court and has been fined $300, the city prosecutor’s office said Thursday.

Miami Heat basketball player Mario Chalmers, a former ku basketball star, was listed as another witness to the incident. It occurred while Chalmers was in town for a golf fundraiser at Alvamar Country Club. Chalmers and Johnson are parents of a child, according to court records.

HOLY CRAP A ku BASKETBALL PLAYER THAT'S NOT A DEADBEAT DAD!  :eek:

I see no evidence of him not being a dead beat dad.  It only said they are parents, not that they took care of the kid.

October 03, 2009, 12:24:54 PM
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Folks, folks, folks . . . this kind of thing happens EVERY day on campuses all across America.




October 03, 2009, 02:49:01 PM
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October 03, 2009, 04:01:52 PM
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October 03, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
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In fact, a few Division I coaches around the country told ESPN.com earlier this week that they saw the on-campus fight as a situation in which the basketball team was acting together in a show of unity -- even if it was in a confrontation.

WTF who are these coaches??
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October 03, 2009, 10:01:29 PM
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In fact, a few Division I coaches around the country told ESPN.com earlier this week that they saw the on-campus fight as a situation in which the basketball team was acting together in a show of unity -- even if it was in a confrontation.

WTF who are these coaches??

Mike Anderson, and Larry Eustachy?   :dunno:


I still want my cooler, bitches!

October 04, 2009, 11:50:04 AM
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I'll bump this thread when Barnes commits

Do you know what Barnes parents do for a living?  Any idea? 


October 05, 2009, 12:28:58 AM
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And no Kansas players have been disciplined in connection with the fight.


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