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August 10, 2009, 06:37:52 PM
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This guy is going to be a 6.2 million dollar man after getting fired by ksu.
According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins

August 10, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
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This guy is going to be a 6.2 million dollar man after getting fired by ksu.


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August 10, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
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According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins

August 10, 2009, 06:51:18 PM
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Then I am seeking 3 million dollars and 1 cent for the bull$hit coaching job he did.
I'd much rather have a 69 year old coach than one that weighs 400+ pounds.

August 10, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
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God I hate Ron Prince...

August 10, 2009, 07:00:33 PM
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Good thing we fired him halfway through the season huh?

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August 10, 2009, 07:07:25 PM
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The good news is that Judges/Juries in the state of Kansas are real stingy about giving punitive damages.

August 10, 2009, 07:09:08 PM
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The good news is that Judges/Juries in the state of Kansas are real stingy about giving punitive damages.

Just a strategy so when we (Khatz) settle for the full amount we don't feel so bad.

August 10, 2009, 07:11:14 PM
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The part about Wefald knowing about the whole deal is awful damn juicy. ...and absolutely true.


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August 10, 2009, 07:18:35 PM
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Now you guys will have to buy even crappier cars than the one Frank Murphy got.  Like Fieros or something.

August 10, 2009, 07:33:43 PM
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August 10, 2009, 07:39:44 PM
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:love: :love: :love: FIEROS!  :love: :love: :love:

F*ck yes.  I didn't even want to talk sh1t in this thread.  I saw a Fiero today and this gave me a window to bring them up.  Totally awesome.  I once had a friend trade a VW microbus for two Fieros.  TWO.

August 10, 2009, 07:54:38 PM
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JFC. Krause and Wefald's EMAW cards better have already been ceased by now. What a f*cking joke our admin was with these two f*ckheads at the helm.

If there is an EMAW prison, these two asshats should be doing the laundry.

August 10, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
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:love: :love: :love: FIEROS!  :love: :love: :love:

F*ck yes.  I didn't even want to talk sh1t in this thread.  I saw a Fiero today and this gave me a window to bring them up.  Totally awesome.  I once had a friend trade a VW microbus for two Fieros.  TWO.

Same colors, or different? 

August 10, 2009, 08:19:24 PM
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August 10, 2009, 09:01:52 PM
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By Austin Meek
Created August 10, 2009 at 3:14pm

Updated August 10, 2009 at 8:32pm

Add another $3 million to Ron Prince's potential price tag.

Prince's attorneys filed a counterclaim Monday in U.S. District Court seeking $3 million in punitive damages from Kansas State's athletics corporation, accusing the Intercollegiate Athletics Council of "wanton and malicious misconduct to the detriment of Mr. Prince" and his personal corporation, In Pursuit of Perfection.

The university's original lawsuit, filed first in Riley County and later amended in federal court, seeks to invalidate a $3.2 million buyout given to Prince, who was fired as K-State's football coach in November 2008. K-State claims former athletic director Bob Krause negotiated the expensive buyout without the university's knowledge.

Prince's attorneys contend that several high-ranking university officials, including former president Jon Wefald, had "actual or constructive knowledge" of Prince's separate buyout agreement.

According to Prince's counterclaim, Krause directed university attorney Jacqueline Butler to remove a line from Prince's employment contract stating that the contract represented "the entire agreement" between the two parties, allowing the contract to work in conjunction with the confidential buyout memorandum.

Wefald, deputy athletic director Jim Epps and associate AD Bob Cavello signed off on those changes, Prince's agent, Neil Cornrich, said in an e-mail to The Topeka Capital-Journal. Epps and Cavello were placed on paid administrative leave by new K-State athletic director John Currie in June.

"Ms. Butler removed that language from the 'public' contract specifically to allow for the type of legally binding contract that was signed between IAC and coach Prince," Cornrich said. "Coach Prince did not request such confidentiality, nor did he care whether the agreement was public, but accommodated the university's request."

Prince's attorneys also challenged K-State's claim that Krause was acting outside his authority as athletic director when he drafted the agreement. During the course of negotiations, Krause provided Cornrich with a copy of the IAC's by-laws as confirmation of his authority. According to Prince's counterclaim, those by-laws contained nothing that would prohibit Krause from negotiating on behalf of K-State.

If Krause did not have the authority to conduct such negotiations, then Prince was "fraudulently induced" into signing the agreement, his attorneys say.

Other assertions contained in K-State's amended petition and Prince's counterclaim:

-- K-State claims that, in contrast to previous negotiations, recently discovered communications between Cornrich and Krause were labeled "CONFIDENTIAL" and sent to no one at the university aside from Krause.

-- Butler filed a grievance with the Ohio and Kansas Offices of Disciplinary Counsel accusing Cornrich of improperly circumventing university attorneys during contract negotiations. Prince's attorneys say the grievance was closed July 15 with no findings against Cornrich.

-- Prince initiated contract negotiations in July 2008 by informing the IAC he was "not interested in being an 'interim coach'" and requesting "protection, time and opportunity to develop the program." Prince's attorneys say the university agreed Prince should be guaranteed the full value of the five-year contract he signed in August 2008.

-- Prince's attorneys say K-State's lawsuit amounts to breach of contract, meaning Prince would be entitled to $3.2 million in damages up front. The memorandum of understanding called for Prince to receive the money in installments beginning in 2015.

K-State referred all inquiries to university attorney Peter PaKSUtelis, who was unavailable for comment. Prince's attorneys have requested the trial be held in Topeka.

Edit: This quote by Cornish was in the original story, but Meeks edited it to take it out:

"Further, Cornrich said other athletic department employees -- including Krause, former athletic director Tim Weiser, associate AD Bob Cavello and football coach Bill Snyder -- had similar agreements with the university."


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August 10, 2009, 09:18:41 PM
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He just will not go away.

I can't wait to read his tell-all book about this whole thing someday.
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August 10, 2009, 09:27:43 PM
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Krause and Wefald are such gigantic dumbasses.  This is so damn funny.

I can't say I thought he would destroy the athletic department this thoroughly this quickly, but I did write when Krause was hired that it was the stupidest hire ever and I wanted to give up my K-State fanhood because of it.
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August 10, 2009, 09:35:15 PM
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I wonder how many times guys like DocStalkSmith and some of the other resident Validators rubbed one out while reading that story.

I'll take 5 plus times and counting.


August 10, 2009, 10:02:48 PM
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I wonder how many times guys like DocStalkSmith and some of the other resident Validators rubbed one out while reading that story.

I'll take 5 plus times and counting.



Sucks when these stories come out, huh pad?

I hope Meeks gets a copy of the rest of the secret agreements ... how about you?

August 10, 2009, 10:06:59 PM
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lmao. this is hardly news.  :lol:
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 10, 2009, 10:11:47 PM
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I wonder how many times guys like DocStalkSmith and some of the other resident Validators rubbed one out while reading that story.

I'll take 5 plus times and counting.



Sucks when these stories come out, huh pad?

I hope Meeks gets a copy of the rest of the secret agreements ... how about you?

Yeah . . . I mean he would have to take it about 9 steps beyond what those 2 ku glory holers that "cover" (sic) ku for the CJ would do in any similar situation at the school they "cover".

But considering that it's extremely difficult to "win" punitive damages in a contract dispute, I am betting Cornich threw the other "secret" agreements in there for effect.   I doubt they exist . . . but they could.




August 10, 2009, 10:42:19 PM
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K-State referred all inquiries to university attorney Peter PaKSUtelis, who was unavailable for comment. Prince's attorneys have requested the trial be held in Topeka.

KSU is going to their asses handed to them if this is their representation in the trial.  I handed this guy his ass in debate competition (go ahead and flame away) for years and I'm a complete moron. 

August 10, 2009, 10:47:18 PM
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it is attorneys posturing to negotiate a deal.  Prince wants $3.2, KSU wants to pay $0, Prince ups the ante to $6.2, both sides will come to the table and settle this for less than the "original" $3.2, (my guess is about half that) and therefore KSU comes out on top.  Neither side wants to make attorneys rich over a bunch of heresay.

August 10, 2009, 10:59:47 PM
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This guy is going to be a 6.2 million dollar man after getting fired by ksu.


I love Ron Prince. What a stud.   :love:

August 10, 2009, 11:03:09 PM
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K-State referred all inquiries to university attorney Peter PaKSUtelis, who was unavailable for comment. Prince's attorneys have requested the trial be held in Topeka.

KSU is going to their asses handed to them if this is their representation in the trial.  I handed this guy his ass in debate competition (go ahead and flame away) for years and I'm a complete moron. 

He is an in house guy.  KSU hired a decent KC firm for the lawsuit.

debate is for major dorks.

August 10, 2009, 11:25:33 PM
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KSU = Clowned by Ron Prince. Absolutely no defense for this statement. Gotta love Ron  :love: Did I say clowned?  :rofl:

August 11, 2009, 12:10:37 AM
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This is probably going to disappoint Doc, who no doubt is rubbing it out for the 12th time tonight over this:

36. In conjunction with the initial and preliminary agreement, however, the University expressed to Mr. Cornrich that, for reasons of confidentiality, it would only guarantee a portion of the contract. To maintain the desired confidentiality, Mr. Krause, on behalf of the IAC, suggested that a separate Memorandum of Understanding be implemented between the IAC and a limited liability corporation to be formed by Coach Prince, such MOU sufficient to provide the guarantees as suggested. Similar LLCs were commonly used by others connected with the Athletic Department to receive payments."

So the "secret agreements" was likely just referencing the existence of LLC's held by other entities in the athletic department.


August 11, 2009, 12:15:17 AM
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When the man dances, certainly boys, what else? The piper pays him.

August 11, 2009, 05:25:55 AM
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This is probably going to disappoint Doc, who no doubt is rubbing it out for the 12th time tonight over this:

36. In conjunction with the initial and preliminary agreement, however, the University expressed to Mr. Cornrich that, for reasons of confidentiality, it would only guarantee a portion of the contract. To maintain the desired confidentiality, Mr. Krause, on behalf of the IAC, suggested that a separate Memorandum of Understanding be implemented between the IAC and a limited liability corporation to be formed by Coach Prince, such MOU sufficient to provide the guarantees as suggested. Similar LLCs were commonly used by others connected with the Athletic Department to receive payments."

So the "secret agreements" was likely just referencing the existence of LLC's held by other entities in the athletic department.



good catch there paddington. I can see why Meeks decided to edit that already printed information out of his story. Hate for anyone to see THAT again.

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