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June 16, 2009, 04:16:53 PM
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2. Michigan State: The Spartans won the Big Ten by four games, reached the national championship game and were humbled by North Carolina. The core of the team returns with Kalin Lucas, Raymar Morgan and Delvon Roe. This team is too talented to slip.

3. Texas: Damion James' return means the Longhorns will be on ku's heels. The addition of Avery Bradley and Jordan Hamilton, the return of Justin Mason, the beef in the middle with Dexter Pittman and the development of Gary Johnson means this squad is loaded.

4. Villanova: Corey Fisher and Scottie Reynolds and a highly touted newcomer class means the Wildcats are the pick to win the Big East. Losing Dante Cunningham hurts, but Jay Wright has this program rolling. There won't be a dip.

5. North Carolina: OK, so the easy thing to do is mock how much the Tar Heels lost in Tyler Hansbrough, Ty Lawson, Wayne Ellington and Danny Green. But I love what is returning in Ed Davis, Deon Thompson, Tyler Zeller, Marcus Ginyard and one of the top recruiting classes in the country. This might be too high, but a Roy Williams-coached team doesn't often disappoint.

6. Purdue: Matt Painter has the squad to compete with Michigan State, led by one of the most improved players in the country the past two years in JaJuan Johnson. Robbie Hummel should be healthy and the Boilermakers are now a serious player in the Big Ten and nationally.

7. Kentucky: Had Jodie Meeks returned, I would have snuck Kentucky up a few spots. Is this too low? Possibly. But John Calipari would agree with me that the Wildcats still haven't earned anything yet. Look, they have to learn a new system, and outside of Patrick Patterson, the key players on this squad are all new: John Wall, Eric Bledsoe, Darnell Dodson, DeMarcus Cousins and Daniel Orton. I just want to see uk mature a bit before it's anointed.

8. Tennessee: Tyler Smith coming back changed my perception of the Vols. This will be one of the more experienced teams in the SEC. And Scotty Hopson, Renaldo Woolridge and Bobby Maze are bound to live up to the hype in their second seasons. I expect Tennessee to be in Kentucky's grill as an SEC East contender.

9. West Virginia: Da'Sean Butler and Devin Ebanks have the potential to be studs for the Mountaineers and in the Big East. Bob Huggins has a serious squad that should prove to be in step with Villanova for the Big East title. Watch this team develop and take on Huggs' personality throughout the season.

10. Duke: The Blue Devils lost Gerald Henderson, and that will hurt since he was their best blow-by offensive threat. But Kyle Singler is still one of the toughest matchups in college basketball. Duke will be bigger than normal, too. As long as Coach K is around, this program will contend.

11. California: The Bears return the core of their team, led by the best backcourt in the West in Jerome Randle and Patrick Christopher. Give Mike Montgomery a full season to implement his system and Cal should flourish. The Bears should be the pick to win the Pac-10 and carry that banner into the NCAAs.

12. Mississippi State: The Bulldogs have the best shot-blocker in the country in Jarvis Varnado, and one of the more intriguing new big men in Renardo Sidney (assuming he's eligible). Rick Stansbury is poised to make a run with this group. He has been boasting about his squad, and this time he should.

13. Michigan: I could be in the minority here, but I love the way John Beilein has molded this crew over the past year. Manny Harris has fit quite nicely into Beilein's system. They struggled to make the NCAA field late in the season but did, and won a game. The Wolverines should be poised to make the Michigan State-Michigan basketball rivalry relevant for years to come.

14. Washington: The Huskies will have one of the deepest and quickest backcourts in the country with Isaiah Thomas, Venoy Overton and Abdul Gaddy. Quincy Pondexter should flourish inside, but the knock on the Huskies will be rebounding. Replacing Jon Brockman's hunger for boards will not be easy.

15. Butler: A year ago they were the surprise lower-profile team to emerge. Not this time. This season the Bulldogs will be expected to compete nationally. Gordon Hayward leads a Brad Stevens-coached squad that can defend as well as any other team in the country.

16. Ohio State: B.J. Mullens left for the NBA, but he wasn't the starting center and only averaged 8.8 ppg. And Thad Matta should be used to the one-and-done center at this point anyway. Getting Evan Turner to come back was the real coup for the Buckeyes. Matta should be back in contention and not sweating Selection Sunday for the first time since Greg Oden left.

17. Maryland: Yes, the Terps are getting this high a nod. I know they got rocked by Georgetown and Duke at one point last season and had to scratch and claw their way into the NCAAs. But Greivis Vasquez' decision to return gives Gary Williams the ammunition he needs to build a tough-minded, gritty bunch once again, with eight of the team's nine top scorers back.

18. Georgetown: The hype last season was skewed after the Hoyas went into Connecticut and won. And sure, DaJuan Summers bolted on the Hoyas, and Georgetown had a shakeup on the staff by dumping Robert Burke. Still, there is too much talent here to dismiss the Hoyas. Greg Monroe is likely a top-five pick, and guards Chris Wright and Austin Freeman should be ready to bust out. Hollis Thompson got a head start on the John Thompson III system by pulling a football-like move and spent the spring semester at Georgetown after graduating midyear.

19. Minnesota: The Gophers have the entire core of their team returning. Tubby Smith hasn't been a disappointment since he arrived in Minneapolis. But how will the Gophers handle expectations? No idea. Still, the way this team defended bodes well for Minnesota having a breakthrough season.

20. Siena: Let's see, two seasons in a row the Saints have won a first-round NCAA tournament game. Sure, they lose Kenny Hasbrouck. But he wasn't the one who made the big shots. Ronald Moore and Edwin Ubiles can handle themselves without Hasbrouck. The biggest thing was ensuring Fran McCaffery didn't get away and take another head coaching job. McCaffery is high on this squad. We're buying in, too.

21. Tulsa: Doug Wojcik finally got the opening he needed in Conference USA with John Calipari bolting for Kentucky. Jerome Jordan came back to take the tag as the best big man in the league. Ben Uzoh should be one of the best guards, and Wojcik picked up a key point guard in the offseason when he nabbed Donte Medder. The Golden Hurricane also hosts the conference tournament. It's time Memphis shared the wealth in this league.

22. Boston College: The Eagles lost Tyrese Rice. But anyone who watched this squad knows they were at their best when he wasn't the focus. BC is a solid team that won't be knocked easily. Rakim Sanders, Corey Raji, Joe Trapani, Reggie Jackson, Biko Paris, Tyler Roche and Josh Southern aren't going to scare anyone individually. But that collection of players and Al Skinner's consistent approach results in consistent wins.

23. South Carolina: The Game****s were a game or two away from making the NCAAs last season. They got Devan Downey and Dominique Archie back from the NBA draft. Downey played extremely well in workouts and has the capability to take over games. This is a team that should only get better and make the SEC East one of the toughest groupings in the country.


24. Kansas State: The Wildcats didn't lose any key players and bring back leading scorer Denis Clemente, who put 44 up on Texas in a road win last season. K-State was a few wins shy of getting an NCAA bid. That shouldn't be a problem next season, as Frank Martin continues to prove he was the right coach at the right time to replace Bob Huggins.

25. Connecticut: They lost a lot, but the Huskies slide in on the backside of the poll with a trio of players that can rival any in the Big East: the backcourt of Kemba Walker and Jerome Dyson and a likely rising star in Stanley Robinson. The Huskies have had plenty of success with role players before, and this year's recruiting class should have plenty of pop.


Good stuff. Took the guy only three years. (and he had no help from thuggins)

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

June 16, 2009, 04:21:32 PM
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Good stuff. Took the guy only three years. (and he had no help from thuggins)

QFT. Absolutely nothing has changed since Huggins left. We were pre-season #24 when Frank took over. Three years later, still sittin' pretty at pre-season #24.
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June 16, 2009, 04:25:40 PM
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I think 24 is about right... still a team flying under the radar for the most part. If the new players come in and mesh with the returning players and really contribute a ton to this team we could be in line for a very very good season.

June 16, 2009, 04:26:42 PM
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Finally, the Cats get some preseason recognition.

June 16, 2009, 04:27:28 PM
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I think 24 is about right... still a team flying under the radar for the most part. If the new players come in and mesh with the returning players and really contribute a ton to this team we could be in line for a very very good season.

had we beat tu and made the ncaa's, we'd prolly be top 15.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

June 16, 2009, 04:39:19 PM
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I think 24 is about right... still a team flying under the radar for the most part. If the new players come in and mesh with the returning players and really contribute a ton to this team we could be in line for a very very good season.

had we beat tu and made the ncaa's, we'd prolly be top 15.

This.

June 16, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
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Who did Katz put at 1? I think you accidently left it off. Thanks

June 16, 2009, 05:27:33 PM
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June 16, 2009, 05:59:09 PM
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June 16, 2009, 06:39:31 PM
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Kinda shows how hard it is to be a top 25 time....we get a great recruiting class in and return most key players and we are still 24th. Oh well... :kstatriot:
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June 16, 2009, 07:05:32 PM
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andy katz, pres of emaw fanclub.  jeez, bandwagon is getting kinda full.



Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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June 16, 2009, 07:08:08 PM
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God, the big names absolutely love Frank.  Making all the Frank naysayers look foolish.

QFT.  Exposes the LBBIQ of those who doubt his hiring, that's for sure.

June 16, 2009, 07:29:25 PM
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the fact that you left off ku at #1 just shows how hard it must be to come to grips with how fracking awesome the jayhawks are. 

June 16, 2009, 10:12:07 PM
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andy katz, pres of emaw fanclub.  jeez, bandwagon is getting kinda full.



nice pic.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

June 16, 2009, 10:35:23 PM
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So, do we get to hang a banner for preseason rankings like uk does?

June 16, 2009, 10:37:30 PM
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So, do we get to hang a banner for preseason rankings like uk does?

nope, we save those for ACTUAL accomplishments.

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

June 18, 2009, 10:52:11 AM
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Who did Katz put at 1? I think you accidently left it off. Thanks
He put NJIT  8-)

June 18, 2009, 05:31:36 PM
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June 18, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
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Don't mind them.  They're still upset over 59-55.

June 18, 2009, 10:27:28 PM
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when Peterson joins the team I wonder if Qhatz (!!!) will give us a little :bump:
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June 21, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
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Kid will be a bust...

probably won't know for a while since ku is so deep at the SG position this year.  He could be a redshirt. 

June 21, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
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I think 24 is about right... still a team flying under the radar for the most part. If the new players come in and mesh with the returning players and really contribute a ton to this team we could be in line for a very very good season.

Surprised that only 3 Big 12 teams are in the poll.  No MU, OU, OSU, A&M, or Baylor which could all say the same thing as you said about the Cats.  Would have thought the way the conf finished last year, the amount of highly regarded new players, & UT & ku being #1 & #3, at least a couple of those would have been in the top 25. Must be that they all lost more from last years team than KSU did.

June 21, 2009, 01:59:46 PM
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24. Kansas State: The Wildcats didn't lose any key players and bring back leading scorer Denis Clemente, who put 44 up on Texas in a road win last season. K-State was a few wins shy of getting an NCAA bid. That shouldn't be a problem next season, as Frank Martin continues to prove he was the right coach at the right time to replace Bob Huggins.


gmafb - not very emaw to overlook white tiger like that - will have to take that back when dk's name is called on draft day :kstatriot:

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24. Kansas State: The Wildcats didn't lose any key players and bring back leading scorer Denis Clemente, who put 44 up on Texas in a road win last season. K-State was a few wins shy of getting an NCAA bid. That shouldn't be a problem next season, as Frank Martin continues to prove he was the right coach at the right time to replace Bob Huggins.


gmafb - not very emaw to overlook white tiger like that - will have to take that back when dk's name is called on draft day :kstatriot:

he was key player for us.  a key for us suckin so bad  :angryMJ:
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