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June 09, 2009, 01:55:15 PM
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so not a single dca, just some dece texans and bunch of ks scrubs.


time to dump hill and underwood and bring in some real coaches.  can't expect 6figga to fill the roster by himself.

Starting to get concerned by this.  (in all seriousness)



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June 09, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
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so not a single dca, just some dece texans and bunch of ks scrubs.


time to dump hill and underwood and bring in some real coaches.  can't expect 6figga to fill the roster by himself.

We need more AC's like him.  He has attitude.  We need more Figgers.

June 09, 2009, 03:59:31 PM
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andrew jordan, 2011 from peoria, ill. may also have attended.
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June 09, 2009, 04:09:56 PM
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andrew jordan, 2011 from peoria, ill. may also have attended.

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Jordan also signed up for basketball camps at Kansas State and Iowa and received invitations to attend camps at Georgetown and Kentucky.

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June 09, 2009, 07:03:00 PM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

June 09, 2009, 07:07:47 PM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

hmmmmm....I have a very low bbiq but I don't think that is true. 
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June 09, 2009, 10:19:20 PM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

Not at all the case.  I think Spradling is a good floor general, but if Frank can get a more transitional running offense point guard, that is exactly what he is looking for.  But Spradling is a local talent who is a leader if nothing else.  Will be a fantastic reserve is nothing else.  Pullen was getting yelled at for trying to dribble drive into a set defense and blowing possessions. 


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June 10, 2009, 08:28:35 AM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

Not at all the case.  I think Spradling is a good floor general, but if Frank can get a more transitional running offense point guard, that is exactly what he is looking for.  But Spradling is a local talent who is a leader if nothing else.  Will be a fantastic reserve is nothing else.  Pullen was getting yelled at for trying to dribble drive into a set defense and blowing possessions. 

I dunno....if Lon wanted him it makes me think that when the kid gets to be a sr (maybe a jr) he'll be an average to slightly below average Big 12 player.  But if we're offerring a kids as early as we did Spradling, I'd like to think/hope that he has the ability to contribute earlier and at a higher level (which it doesn't appear to be the case). Maybe we won't need Spradling to be much more than a reserve until then? Still haven't figured out how Frank will use Gruds and Russell.

June 10, 2009, 09:58:38 AM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

Not at all the case.  I think Spradling is a good floor general, but if Frank can get a more transitional running offense point guard, that is exactly what he is looking for.  But Spradling is a local talent who is a leader if nothing else.  Will be a fantastic reserve is nothing else.  Pullen was getting yelled at for trying to dribble drive into a set defense and blowing possessions. 

I dunno....if Lon wanted him it makes me think that when the kid gets to be a sr (maybe a jr) he'll be an average to slightly below average Big 12 player.  But if we're offerring a kids as early as we did Spradling, I'd like to think/hope that he has the ability to contribute earlier and at a higher level (which it doesn't appear to be the case). Maybe we won't need Spradling to be much more than a reserve until then? Still haven't figured out how Frank will use Gruds and Russell.

My perspective is that while chasing higher end prospects we failed to fill out the roster in 08' with quality players.  I think Frank learned from previous experience and set up a quality base to his class.  I don't think Will should or will be a reserve for his entire career, but if he doesn't turn out to be a stud by his Junior/Senior year he at least has the skills and traits to be a quality backup.  I also think his length makes him a great guard at either spot because he'll be able to defend. 

I'm proud of Frank and Co. for learning from experience.   :clap:


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June 10, 2009, 10:01:41 AM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

Not at all the case.  I think Spradling is a good floor general, but if Frank can get a more transitional running offense point guard, that is exactly what he is looking for.  But Spradling is a local talent who is a leader if nothing else.  Will be a fantastic reserve is nothing else.  Pullen was getting yelled at for trying to dribble drive into a set defense and blowing possessions. 

I dunno....if Lon wanted him it makes me think that when the kid gets to be a sr (maybe a jr) he'll be an average to slightly below average Big 12 player.  But if we're offerring a kids as early as we did Spradling, I'd like to think/hope that he has the ability to contribute earlier and at a higher level (which it doesn't appear to be the case). Maybe we won't need Spradling to be much more than a reserve until then? Still haven't figured out how Frank will use Gruds and Russell.

If I could take away Chris Merrieweather's scholarship and PT and give to Spradling as a 17 year old, I would.
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June 10, 2009, 12:22:33 PM
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It's sad we can't even get cook in for a visit.  I had hope to land him or another DCA'er. 

hopefully goodman and a couple of other young dcas are there.  cook has a good excuse, since he's going to be in colorado for the national team tryouts starting sunday (but note, perry ellis is making a sat. cameo at ku's camp before heading to the same event).

Sys: You are wrong Perry wasn't at ku on Saturday.  He was in Colorado Saturday morning at training camp. He had to be at Training camp by 9am on Saturday morning. He couldn't be at Kstate and Colorado at the same time.  Yes, was was at ku on Friday KState didn't start on Friday.  So there was no way he could attend the Kstate Elite camp.  Just wanted to let you know the facts.

June 10, 2009, 05:05:35 PM
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Sys: You are wrong Perry wasn't at ku on Saturday.  He was in Colorado Saturday morning at training camp. He had to be at Training camp by 9am on Saturday morning. He couldn't be at Kstate and Colorado at the same time.  Yes, was was at ku on Friday KState didn't start on Friday.  So there was no way he could attend the Kstate Elite camp.  Just wanted to let you know the facts.

bbhoops.  thanks for the correction.


i can't blame ellis for skipping the ksu camp.  i would have wanted to be where quinn cook was playing too.
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June 10, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

Not at all the case.  I think Spradling is a good floor general, but if Frank can get a more transitional running offense point guard, that is exactly what he is looking for.  But Spradling is a local talent who is a leader if nothing else.  Will be a fantastic reserve is nothing else.  Pullen was getting yelled at for trying to dribble drive into a set defense and blowing possessions. 

I dunno....if Lon wanted him it makes me think that when the kid gets to be a sr (maybe a jr) he'll be an average to slightly below average Big 12 player.  But if we're offerring a kids as early as we did Spradling, I'd like to think/hope that he has the ability to contribute earlier and at a higher level (which it doesn't appear to be the case). Maybe we won't need Spradling to be much more than a reserve until then? Still haven't figured out how Frank will use Gruds and Russell.

If I could take away Chris Merrieweather's scholarship and PT and give to Spradling as a 17 year old, I would.

Agreed. Merriwhether is fracking worthless.

June 10, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

Not at all the case.  I think Spradling is a good floor general, but if Frank can get a more transitional running offense point guard, that is exactly what he is looking for.  But Spradling is a local talent who is a leader if nothing else.  Will be a fantastic reserve is nothing else.  Pullen was getting yelled at for trying to dribble drive into a set defense and blowing possessions. 

I dunno....if Lon wanted him it makes me think that when the kid gets to be a sr (maybe a jr) he'll be an average to slightly below average Big 12 player.  But if we're offerring a kids as early as we did Spradling, I'd like to think/hope that he has the ability to contribute earlier and at a higher level (which it doesn't appear to be the case). Maybe we won't need Spradling to be much more than a reserve until then? Still haven't figured out how Frank will use Gruds and Russell.

If I could take away Chris Merrieweather's scholarship and PT and give to Spradling as a 17 year old, I would.

Agreed. Merriwhether is fracking worthless.
But he gives the team "Energy"

June 10, 2009, 08:44:22 PM
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Spradling sounds like the kind of point guard Frank really wants.  Someone to set up the offense and find the open man.  I don't think Clemente is really a typical Frank Martin guy, we'll take him if he's there but Frank likew point guards to be the set up man not the scorer.  This is why he was so harsh on Pullen last year and somewhat this year, Pullen was trying to be a scorer and shooting when he should have been passing.  Now that we may be getting some scorers in place we won't need our Point to score so much.  Spradling seems like a solid ball handler and ball control guy.

And he plays great defense
Not at all the case.  I think Spradling is a good floor general, but if Frank can get a more transitional running offense point guard, that is exactly what he is looking for.  But Spradling is a local talent who is a leader if nothing else.  Will be a fantastic reserve is nothing else.  Pullen was getting yelled at for trying to dribble drive into a set defense and blowing possessions.  

I dunno....if Lon wanted him it makes me think that when the kid gets to be a sr (maybe a jr) he'll be an average to slightly below average Big 12 player.  But if we're offerring a kids as early as we did Spradling, I'd like to think/hope that he has the ability to contribute earlier and at a higher level (which it doesn't appear to be the case). Maybe we won't need Spradling to be much more than a reserve until then? Still haven't figured out how Frank will use Gruds and Russell.

If I could take away Chris Merrieweather's scholarship and PT and give to Spradling as a 17 year old, I would.

Agreed. Merriwhether is fracking worthless.
But he gives the team "Energy"

And he plays great defense.