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May 21, 2009, 04:04:52 PM
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Could you please give us another impassioned soliloquy about the inherent robustness of the K-State athletic department budget?

I'll hang up and listen off the air. 

May 21, 2009, 04:21:57 PM
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WellBigJkuJrtard . . .

By all accounts the rank and file folks in the K-State athletic department were shocked when Krause told them last winter that the department was over $1 million in the hole.  Why??  Because revenue streams were hitting projections, no sport was exceeding their budget, giving was steady and strong, and Radio/TV revenue was exceeding projections. 

Now, tell me how great it is at ku, when then the ku associate athletic director says the budget is so tight that that athletic department can't afford to supplement faculty and staff tickets, because the ku academic administration can no longer afford to supplement faculty and staff tickets . . . the total dollars needed, about $450K.

Now BigJkujrTard . . . run on back over to phognet and act like you guys know everything.

Oh and by all reports . . . it's going to be a good while before that "Olympic Sports Complex" gets built at ku, because as ku tears that $hit AstroPlay turf and puts in FieldTurf (that K-State put in, in 2001) there is no intention to tear out the track anytime soon because they're going to need it.









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May 21, 2009, 06:05:18 PM
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^^^  The kid never disappoints does he?  ^^^

Did I miss some posts that got deleted or something? What did BigJ have to do with the first post?

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May 21, 2009, 07:07:49 PM
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DocStalkSmith . . . shouldn't you be over pleasuring yourself to such threads as "the biggest dick in the NBA".

BigJkutard thinks he's got the whole financial picture figured out, and most of the time he's wrong.

ku athletics . . . $54 million dollars in debt.  Lew steals $2.5 million a year in fees from the students, and ku can't even afford a measly $451k to give faculty and staff a break. 

Sad . . . 

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May 21, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
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Maybe he does, or maybe he doesn't, I don't know. What does he have to do with this post?


May 21, 2009, 07:16:21 PM
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Because I know exactly where the ku tards get their "fodder" and bigjkutard is over on phogtard acting like he knows everything about K-State's financial situation and he's got the phogtards (such as yourself) pretty much convinced that K-State athletics is going to go bankrupt or something . . .  and if Snyder doesn't win the conference in the next couple of years K-State is going to have to fold its athletic department.   That's not how it works.


Bigjkutard paints a picture that ku is rolling in cash, meanwhile Lew's little ass puppet Marichone (sp??) comes out and says the budget is so tight ku athletics can't afford to pick up the slack on faculty staff tickets after the administration said they couldn't afford to do it anymore.

So far no budget cuts, no loss of faculty staff discounts or things of that ilk at K-State.





May 21, 2009, 07:23:53 PM
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Oh I get it. You're a pretty sharp cookie there aren't ya daxipad? You somehow knew this question really wasn't about how solvent things are, it was about Lew and ku. Brilliant.

So how are things?

May 21, 2009, 07:30:40 PM
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LOL at BigJkutard . . . you must be pm'ing him DocStalkSmith, or he's lurking on the board, I never said ku athletics was in trouble, nor can you use the Equity in Athletics numbers and get a true picture as to what's going on in the athletic department.   I suspect a good portion of the donations to ku athletics last year went into endowments likely to help pay for coaches salaries over time, that's why Lew had to float $31 million dollars in bonds for all the improvements to the Fieldhouse, and that's why overall ku athletics is $54 million dollars in debt.  Of course BigJkutard will say that floating bonds is a good idea . . and it is, but ku also has to borrow money to do the football facility, and is still paying off the improvements to Memorial Stadium from 1998.


Bigjkutard wrote on Phogtard.net:
That data is from basically prior to last years football season.  I think I heard from some KSU smart ass something about kuAD being in trouble because they are not paying for discounted faculty tickets but a couple of years ago kuAD stopped paying for those in exchange for paying all the utility bills on its facilities.  That is a reflection of the general budget, which being influenced by the state budget, is thin everywhere this year.

Lew's Ass Puppet said this to the LJ World on April 1st, 2009:

Associate Athletic Director Jim Marchiony said the athletic department could not pick up the cost of the discount program, but said the department would continue to allow faculty and staff ticket holders to sit in preferred seating locations without the requirement that they become donors to ku Athletics. The department also offers a special half-season ticket package to faculty and staff that is not offered to the general public, Marchiony said.


ku Athletics generated about $53 million in revenue for the 2007-2008 school year, according to the department’s annual report. But Marchiony said expenses are near the $53 million mark as well.
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May 21, 2009, 07:32:54 PM
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What does that have to do with KSU?

May 21, 2009, 07:41:32 PM
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What does that have to do with KSU?


That was out of a thread where BigJkutard was talking about K-State not having floated the bonds yet for its facilities improvements . . . he doesn't know if that's happened or not, they may have had a private bond sale, I am not sure either.   I suspect BigJkutard doesn't even know the agency in the state that typically handles those bond sales.

But again, the basic theme is that BigJkutard Jr. is over here taking cues from BigJkutard on phogtard.net . . . when at this juncture nobody knows exactly what the financial situation is at K-State, except for a few people.   But again, no budget cuts, no layoffs, no ticket price increases and faculty staff still gets discount tickets.


May 21, 2009, 07:42:55 PM
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You've lost it kid. Good luck in your quest for relevance.

May 21, 2009, 08:02:56 PM
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The rebuttals to the facts that Dax is laying out are as weak as a 8 yr old boy. Bring some educated $h!t or some good quality smack, or GTFO.

May 21, 2009, 08:36:10 PM
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What does that have to do with KSU?


That was out of a thread where BigJkutard was talking about K-State not having floated the bonds yet for its facilities improvements . . . he doesn't know if that's happened or not, they may have had a private bond sale, I am not sure either.   I suspect BigJkutard doesn't even know the agency in the state that typically handles those bond sales.

But again, the basic theme is that BigJkutard Jr. is over here taking cues from BigJkutard on phogtard.net . . . when at this juncture nobody knows exactly what the financial situation is at K-State, except for a few people.   But again, no budget cuts, no layoffs, no ticket price increases and faculty staff still gets discount tickets.



FWIW I don't generally lurk here.  I had to re-register today because I was curious about the reaction to the Krause thing.  Frankly I think you guys have a great sense of humor about most of the crap your administrators have put you through.  Before today it had been some number of months since I had visited.

For the record I know who issues bonds for the Universities and municipalities in this state and I also know damn well who rates them.  It is public information you can get very simply at Moody's who gives a bond rating when they are put up for sale.  If you have a paid, company account you can get more information but the rating and what is rated for each institution and each bond is right there for you for free.

I don't really want to start up a whole argument.  Though it is kind of silly to say the kuAC is going broke because they won't pickup an obligation of the University to its employees.  They have no reason to, they have wanted to do away with the faculty tickets forever anyway because too many were getting resold on ebay.

Once again I think you still don't understand debt.  You see debt and you assume bad things.  The fact that the debt was sold with the rating it had for the rate it did tells a bunch of the story.  Debt, if you can service it, is not an unhealthy thing.  kuAC can clearly service its debt obligations at the moment, that is why they were able to sell them quickly.

Really the arguments about numbers are all academic and speculative anyway.  The real proof is in the shovels in the grounds and concrete being poured.  ku is doing that.  KSU isn't and there are more than a few reports out there that say KSU is pretty much stalled on its current round of facility upgrades.  I am not the one putting that story out there.  Talk to your friend J-Mart.

"After Wednesday, that can't be the case -- especially with progress on a $70 million expansion of athletic facilities stalled. Under Weiser, there was a multimillion-dollar reserve and a yearly budget in the black. According to sources, the reserve is exhausted and the budget is in the red."

We can fight numbers all we want.  But the best you can come up with is the fact that kuAC won't pickup an unexpected bill for tickets it does not want to sell to faculty to begin with.  Meanwhile you guys have a stalled facilities project, by many reports you have an AD budget in the red, you are playing 2 FCS teams in one year and are playing a road game at a Sun Belt team's stadium.

I don't for one second think ku has a rich AD.  ku does have a stable and well run AD which is something KSU has not had for quite a while.  ku has a stable source of income in the basketball program while KSU does not have a stable source of income at the moment.  These are big differences and they are the reasons ku is putting up buildings while KSU is still sitting with drawings and undefined time lines for construction.

May 21, 2009, 08:37:20 PM
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FWIW I don't generally lurk here.  I had to re-register today because I was curious about the reaction to the Krause thing.  Frankly I think you guys have a great sense of humor about most of the crap your administrators have put you through.  Before today it had been some number of months since I had visited.

go f*ck yourself and your loser football program
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

May 21, 2009, 09:03:47 PM
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FWIW I don't generally lurk here.  I had to re-register today because I was curious about the reaction to the Krause thing.  Frankly I think you guys have a great sense of humor about most of the crap your administrators have put you through.  Before today it had been some number of months since I had visited.

go f*ck yourself and your loser football program

Love you too Fatty.

May 21, 2009, 09:08:54 PM
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ku does have a stable and well run AD which is something KSU has not had for quite a while.

Is ku still on probation for "lack of institutional control" within its athletic department?

May 21, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
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The rebuttals to the facts that Dax is laying out are as weak as a 8 yr old boy. Bring some educated $h!t or some good quality smack, or GTFO.

LOL.  What facts?  Just the fact that ku this October will finish $100 million in construction in just the last two years, has a football program that is projected to win the Big 12 North and a basketball program that is projected by most to win its second National Championship in three years.  

The KSU "rebuttal" is eying a big fat fiscal crapburger to somehow gag down to go with its mediocre basketball and comically horrific football program.

I don't know however Dax or the other sand divers choose to measure athletic department success vis-a-vis ku, but they can have it.

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May 22, 2009, 07:06:24 AM
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What does that have to do with KSU?


That was out of a thread where BigJkutard was talking about K-State not having floated the bonds yet for its facilities improvements . . . he doesn't know if that's happened or not, they may have had a private bond sale, I am not sure either.   I suspect BigJkutard doesn't even know the agency in the state that typically handles those bond sales.

But again, the basic theme is that BigJkutard Jr. is over here taking cues from BigJkutard on phogtard.net . . . when at this juncture nobody knows exactly what the financial situation is at K-State, except for a few people.   But again, no budget cuts, no layoffs, no ticket price increases and faculty staff still gets discount tickets.



FWIW I don't generally lurk here.  I had to re-register today because I was curious about the reaction to the Krause thing.  Frankly I think you guys have a great sense of humor about most of the crap your administrators have put you through.  Before today it had been some number of months since I had visited.

For the record I know who issues bonds for the Universities and municipalities in this state and I also know damn well who rates them.  It is public information you can get very simply at Moody's who gives a bond rating when they are put up for sale.  If you have a paid, company account you can get more information but the rating and what is rated for each institution and each bond is right there for you for free.

I don't really want to start up a whole argument.  Though it is kind of silly to say the kuAC is going broke because they won't pickup an obligation of the University to its employees.  They have no reason to, they have wanted to do away with the faculty tickets forever anyway because too many were getting resold on ebay.

Once again I think you still don't understand debt.  You see debt and you assume bad things.  The fact that the debt was sold with the rating it had for the rate it did tells a bunch of the story.  Debt, if you can service it, is not an unhealthy thing.  kuAC can clearly service its debt obligations at the moment, that is why they were able to sell them quickly.

Really the arguments about numbers are all academic and speculative anyway.  The real proof is in the shovels in the grounds and concrete being poured.  ku is doing that.  KSU isn't and there are more than a few reports out there that say KSU is pretty much stalled on its current round of facility upgrades.  I am not the one putting that story out there.  Talk to your friend J-Mart.

"After Wednesday, that can't be the case -- especially with progress on a $70 million expansion of athletic facilities stalled. Under Weiser, there was a multimillion-dollar reserve and a yearly budget in the black. According to sources, the reserve is exhausted and the budget is in the red."

We can fight numbers all we want.  But the best you can come up with is the fact that kuAC won't pickup an unexpected bill for tickets it does not want to sell to faculty to begin with.  Meanwhile you guys have a stalled facilities project, by many reports you have an AD budget in the red, you are playing 2 FCS teams in one year and are playing a road game at a Sun Belt team's stadium.

I don't for one second think ku has a rich AD.  ku does have a stable and well run AD which is something KSU has not had for quite a while.  ku has a stable source of income in the basketball program while KSU does not have a stable source of income at the moment.  These are big differences and they are the reasons ku is putting up buildings while KSU is still sitting with drawings and undefined time lines for construction.
Bueller? Bueller?  pwned 8-)

May 22, 2009, 07:07:25 AM
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The rebuttals to the facts that Dax is laying out are as weak as a 8 yr old boy. Bring some educated $h!t or some good quality smack, or GTFO.

LOL.  What facts?  Just the fact that ku this October will finish $100 million in construction in just the last two years, has a football program that is projected to win the Big 12 North and a basketball program that is projected by most to win its second National Championship in three years.  

The KSU "rebuttal" is eying a big fat fiscal crapburger to somehow gag down to go with its mediocre basketball and comically horrific football program.

I don't know however Dax or the other sand divers choose to measure athletic department success vis-a-vis ku, but they can have it.

 :love:

I LMAO at ANYONE who uses preseason polls as a benchmark for smack talking. Please drag out the tired 4MOD (4 Months of Dominance) or the Big 12 Ch that you all backed into last year, but please leave the preseason crap out. Dont be a dumbass.  :nono:

May 22, 2009, 08:38:27 AM
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BigJ . . . I don't care what you think you know, you don't know $hit. 

First off I am very familiar with how the state handles bonds, I am very familiar with the yield on those bonds etc. etc.  I don't know if the KDFA has done the bond sale for K-State or not.   I fully understand how debt is used . . . but debt is debt, and ku athletics has a lot of it right now, no matter how you cut it.   At some point in the future, if not already, K-State athletics will have a lot more debt.  If K-State hasn't already issued the bonds, they may have to wait.  But as of right now the first segment of the Bramlage/BSFS Stadium improvements for $45 million dollars are listed on the most current Board of Regents Capital Improvement project spreadsheets that were just released a few days ago for current and future Fiscal Years.

and . . .  I never said ku athletics is in any financial difficulty.

Your comments that K-State athletics doesn't have a "steady revenue stream" are complete horse$hit, and the fact that you keep posting over in tardville that unless Snyder pulls nothing short of a miracle out that K-State athletics is going to fall off the financial cliff is nonsense.   Plus  I absolutely LOL that you keep using the Equity in Athletics numbers as the be all and end all to gauge the financial health of collegiate athletic departments.   What is going on right now is a dip in the road that K-State athletics is fully capable of recovering from with the proper management.   As I said earlier, I know people that work in the athletic department at K-State, and just as I said they were all floored when Krause tried to tell them they were running a budget deficit, because they all saw the STEADY STREAM of revenue (despite your conspiracy on season ticket sales . . . here's a little help, K-State still averaged 45,000 a game for football and walk up tickets on a per game basis are more expensive than season tickets when you average it on per game basis.  K-State had not 1, but 2 premium home games last year, plus the expensive club seats were all SOLD OUT and the suites are all sold out, see, steady stream of revenues . . . and single game basketball ticket prices DOUBLED last year, and K-State had thousands of "walkup"/single game ticket sales during the conference season), and they knew all the athletic teams were running right in line with their respective budgets. 
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May 22, 2009, 08:43:32 AM
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May 22, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
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Daxitive, are you responding to a phog.net thread here? Your inferiority complex knows no bounds if true.

May 22, 2009, 09:02:32 AM
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Daxitive, are you responding to a phog.net thread here? Your inferiority complex knows no bounds if true.

LOL . . . because I've read BigJ's body of work on tardville, and did he not just post in this thread on this board, and I know how the tards work, they come over here for a little "drive by" and then run back and daisy chain each other in tardville where the board nazi protects his little flock and where I can't post.

But it's laughable once again to see a ku fan, that obsesses over K-State at every moment, and persistently lurks on all K-State message boards talk about an "inferiority complex".   

Cue DocSTALKsmith and his spiel of excuses . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . .


May 22, 2009, 09:23:02 AM
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It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

May 22, 2009, 10:19:08 AM
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Daxitive, are you responding to a phog.net thread here? Your inferiority complex knows no bounds if true.

are you posting about a ksufans poster on kstate board concerning a thread on phog.net? Your inferiority complex knows no bounds if true.
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May 22, 2009, 12:14:07 PM
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I haven't looked, but no doubt the StalkSmith is talking about his thread or me, or pm'ing BigJkutard about this over in tardville.


May 22, 2009, 12:17:47 PM
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Tom Lite doesn't allow me to read posts on Phog but I bet Dax just kills it over there. 
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May 22, 2009, 12:40:57 PM
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Dax has a sock that will never post a thing over there, but does take a peak from time to time.

I now mostly just look and see what kind of highly speculative BS BigJkutard has rolled out.





May 22, 2009, 12:55:57 PM
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FWIW I don't generally lurk here.  I had to re-register today because I was curious about the reaction to the Krause thing.  Frankly I think you guys have a great sense of humor about most of the crap your administrators have put you through.  Before today it had been some number of months since I had visited.

go f*ck yourself and your loser football program

You've got NOTHING!  And it shows!   :rofl:

May 22, 2009, 01:34:35 PM
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Dax is like a puppet master and he has at least 4 ku posters chasing him around over here.  It is like watching a cat chase a light on a wall.  He pwns it.