Arrested Development

[BigCat]

Mrs. Featherbottom - OK, who'd like a banger in the mouth?

Featherbottom - Oh right, I forgot, here in the states you call it a 'sausage' in the mouth.

Michael - We just call it a sausage.

 

[SkinnyBenny]

"Oh dear, I keep forgetting I'm in the colonies!

[Bookcat]

Bob Loblaw

[SkinnyBenny]

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb!

[waks]

What's the running total now on great shows that fox has canceled far too early?

[SkinnyBenny]

one?

[FelixRex]

one?

Meh. Malcom got a pretty fair run.

[waks]

one?

Family Guy, Firefly, some would say the O.C., etc.

At the same time they produce crap (American Dad, bad reality TV), run an awful show that should have been canceled a long time ago for 13 seasons (King of the Hill), and run other good shows into the ground by overplaying them (House, the Simpsons). Thank goodness for NBC.

[SkinnyBenny]

P.S. Malcolm in the Middle makes me want to punch elderly people.

Malcolm in the Middle=

[FelixRex]

P.S. Malcolm in the Middle makes me want to punch elderly people.

Malcolm in the Middle=

It's weird that I've disliked other "shows" more, but I've never felt such extreme dislike for specific actors.

I've said this before, but I still feel guilty for not discovering Arrested Development until after it was canceled. But I was out of the country at the time, so it also makes me angry at America.

[catdude33]

one?

some would say the O.C.

Yes, I would say this.  Can still catch it from time to time on Soap Channel though.

[BigCat]

run an awful show that should have been canceled a long time ago for 13 seasons (King of the Hill),

KotH is still pretty good. Better writing than the Simpsons now, imo.

[pissclams]

there is an AD movie in the works fwiw but i'm sure it will suck as they try to reproduce all of the insanely quirky humor that the original series was so good at

[catdude33]

Hope there is an OC movie soon.

[JTKSU]

Hope there is an OC movie soon.

Fag.

[SkinnyBenny]

there is an AD movie in the works fwiw but i'm sure it will suck as they try to reproduce all of the insanely quirky humor that the original series was so good at

How will it suck?  It's being written by and stars all of the original people.

[pissclams]

there is an AD movie in the works fwiw but i'm sure it will suck as they try to reproduce all of the insanely quirky humor that the original series was so good at

How will it suck?  It's being written by and stars all of the original people.

oh i don't know.  maybe the same way that everything in the star wars saga after the empire strikes back sucks?

[JTKSU]

there is an AD movie in the works fwiw but i'm sure it will suck as they try to reproduce all of the insanely quirky humor that the original series was so good at

How will it suck?  It's being written by and stars all of the original people.

Not sure how well it will translate into a feature length movie.  Seems like every sow pretty much stood on it's own, not sure if they can keep the gag going for an hour and a half.  Regardless, I'll throw down my 9 bucks to watch it.

[ChiefCatchacold]

Seems like every show pretty much stood on it's own

But there were so many running jokes in that series - If you started in the middle and watched one episode, about 38% of the humor wouldn't register.  <-- my theory on why it didn't last.

[JTKSU]

Seems like every show pretty much stood on it's own

But there were so many running jokes in that series - If you started in the middle and watched one episode, about 38% of the humor wouldn't register.  <-- my theory on why it didn't last.

You're definitely right about that, but you could say the same for almost every show on television.  (If you only watch one episode in the middle of a season, you won't fully understand what is going on.)  I was more referring to the fact that the shows didn't necessarily need to be watched chronologically to be enjoyed, or even understood.  But yeah, if you didn't see the episode where Buster gets his hand bit off, or when Oscar was swapped for George in jail, etc.  you might be a little lost.

Oh, and:  "I'm Oscar.  Dot Com."

[waks]

Seems like every show pretty much stood on it's own

But there were so many running jokes in that series - If you started in the middle and watched one episode, about 38% of the humor wouldn't register.  <-- my theory on why it didn't last.

It didn't do well because it was in a poor time slot and it was too smart for people.

[pissclams]

Seems like every show pretty much stood on it's own

But there were so many running jokes in that series - If you started in the middle and watched one episode, about 38% of the humor wouldn't register.  <-- my theory on why it didn't last.

It didn't do well because it was in a poor time slot and it was too smart for people.

they tried moving nights/times.  the bottom line is that the american television watching public doesn't want to support shows like AD.  they have to think to much to be entertained by AD, they have to be smart enough to get the jokes. 

television in the US plays to the lowest common denominator.  this is not fox's fault.

[waks]

Seems like every show pretty much stood on it's own

But there were so many running jokes in that series - If you started in the middle and watched one episode, about 38% of the humor wouldn't register.  <-- my theory on why it didn't last.

It didn't do well because it was in a poor time slot and it was too smart for people.

they tried moving nights/times.  the bottom line is that the american television watching public doesn't want to support shows like AD.  they have to think to much to be entertained by AD, they have to be smart enough to get the jokes. 

This is why I'm surprised that a show like 30Rock is doing so well.

[Applejack]

-"What have we always said is the most important thing?"

-"Breakfast"

-"No, family."

-"Oh, I thought you meant of the things we eat"

[pissclams]

Seems like every show pretty much stood on it's own

But there were so many running jokes in that series - If you started in the middle and watched one episode, about 38% of the humor wouldn't register.  <-- my theory on why it didn't last.

It didn't do well because it was in a poor time slot and it was too smart for people.

they tried moving nights/times.  the bottom line is that the american television watching public doesn't want to support shows like AD.  they have to think to much to be entertained by AD, they have to be smart enough to get the jokes. 

This is why I'm surprised that a show like 30Rock is doing so well.

like someone said earlier, a lot of AD's jokes carried over from week to week, there were just a ton of ongoing jokes.  it also moved really quickly.  i just don't see 30 Rock in the same light, it's funny but the jokes aren't anything that you have to "get" to laugh at. 

[SkinnyBenny]

Some of them are.  30 Rock is pretty damn witty.

Arrested Development suffered for many reasons.

1) As mentioned, it is too involved to get into mid-season.  I'm 'ead 'erious. 
2) Suffers with commercial breaks.  They kill the flow.  DVD is the best format.
3) FOX did move it all over the frickin' place.  They also preempted it for baseball all the time too.    Nobody knew when it was on.  And if you missed an ep, you are out of the loop bigtime.  Moreso than with other shows.
4) More than anything, Americans are dumb and Arrested Development is smart.

[JTKSU]

Some of them are.  30 Rock is pretty damn witty.

Arrested Development suffered for many reasons.

1) As mentioned, it is too involved to get into mid-season.  I'm 'ead 'erious. 
2) Suffers with commercial breaks.  They kill the flow.  DVD is the best format.
3) FOX did move it all over the frickin' place.  They also preempted it for baseball all the time too.    Nobody knew when it was on.  And if you missed an ep, you are out of the loop bigtime.  Moreso than with other shows.
4) More than anything, Americans are dumb and Arrested Development is smart.

QFT.  It's like I always say:  The average person is borderline retarded.

[Rick Daris]

jesus christ..."I loved arrested development but america didn't because they were stupid and I am smart!!!" gmafb w/ this garbage.



arrested development was absolutely fantastic but failed because it was on fox at a crappy time and got moved around too much. if that show would have debuted at thursday night on NBC it would still be on and be a huge hit. fact. gmafb w/ every single arrested development lover (but me) thinking they are some sort of comedic genius for "getting" the show.


Edit to Add:
you want to talk about comedic tragedies on the fox network, let's discuss Greg the Bunny getting pulled after like five episodes in favor of The Bernie Mac Show 

[waks]

jesus christ..."I loved arrested development but america didn't because they were stupid and I am smart!!!" gmafb w/ this garbage.



arrested development was absolutely fantastic but failed because it was on fox at a crappy time and got moved around too much. if that show would have debuted at thursday night on NBC it would still be on and be a huge hit. fact. gmafb w/ every single arrested development lover (but me) thinking they are some sort of comedic genius for "getting" the show.

I take serious offense to this. There is more evidence than just my love for Arrested Development that I am a comedic genius.

[pissclams]

jesus christ..."I loved arrested development but america didn't because they were stupid and I am smart!!!" gmafb w/ this garbage.



arrested development was absolutely fantastic but failed because it was on fox at a crappy time and got moved around too much. if that show would have debuted at thursday night on NBC it would still be on and be a huge hit. fact. gmafb w/ every single arrested development lover (but me) thinking they are some sort of comedic genius for "getting" the show.


Edit to Add:
you want to talk about comedic tragedies on the fox network, let's discuss Greg the Bunny getting pulled after like five episodes in favor of The Bernie Mac Show 

i never said "they" were stupid.  i'd include myself in the "only getting half of the writer's jokes" crowd, thank you very much.