biggest surprise/disappointment for 08/09 ksu mbb

[ksudrew]

thoughts?

[TAFNA Dude]

surprise has to go to clemente.  dude is probable all conference, probably 2nd/3rd teamer. 

disappointment?  did we really have big expectations for anyone on our team this year?  kent/brown both exceeded expectations.  colon/anderson/sutton are exactly what we thought they'd be.  pullen's hard to label because he's so inconsistent.

i guess i'll go with hererra? 

[Rock Lobster]

surprise has to go to clemente.  dude is probable all conference, probably 2nd/3rd teamer. 

disappointment?  did we really have big expectations for anyone on our team this year?  kent/brown both exceeded expectations.  colon/anderson/sutton are exactly what we thought they'd be.  pullen's hard to label because he's so inconsistent.

i guess i'll go with hererra? 

Herrera being a ghost is not disappointing because now he is leaving.

[steve dave]

Suprise at the time:  Winning @ Cleveland St. and @ Texas
Suprise now:  Destroying MU
Disapointment at the time:  Losing @ NU
Disapointment now:  Losing to Oregon, Iowa, Baylor at home

I dunno.  Could have put a ton of other stuff in there.  The then ones are still disapointing just not as much so in hindsight

[catzacker]

Players:
Surprise:  Clemente
Disappointment: the '08 recruiting class

Games:
Surprise:  UT
Disappointment:  Baylor

Overall:
Surprise:  6 game win streak - we had no business even being in the NCAA tourney talk and this streak got us there. 

Disappointment:  Las Vegas tourney - pretty much the reason we had no business even being in the NCAA tourney talk. 

[ksu_FAN]

Players:
Surprise:  Clemente
Disappointment: the '08 recruiting class

Games:
Surprise:  UT
Disappointment:  Baylor

Overall:
Surprise:  6 game win streak
Disappointment:  toss up b/t Iowa and Oregon

Agreed on all accounts except the biggest disappointment was at Nubb.  We didn't even compete in that game. 

[catzacker]

Players:
Surprise:  Clemente
Disappointment: the '08 recruiting class

Games:
Surprise:  UT
Disappointment:  Baylor

Overall:
Surprise:  6 game win streak
Disappointment:  toss up b/t Iowa and Oregon

Agreed on all accounts except the biggest disappointment was at Nubb.  We didn't even compete in that game. 

yeah, I couln't decide between @NU or BU...but we didn't really compete in either and BU was at home and has now shown to be a worse team than NU (though at the time of those games that may not of been the case).

[ksu_FAN]

Players:
Surprise:  Clemente
Disappointment: the '08 recruiting class

Games:
Surprise:  UT
Disappointment:  Baylor

Overall:
Surprise:  6 game win streak
Disappointment:  toss up b/t Iowa and Oregon

Agreed on all accounts except the biggest disappointment was at Nubb.  We didn't even compete in that game. 

yeah, I couln't decide between @NU or BU...but we didn't really compete in either and BU was at home and has now shown to be a worse team than NU (though at the time of those games that may not of been the case).

True.  Baylor was probably actually worse, but I drove to Lincoln and watched, so that makes it worse for me.

[michigancat]

BU was a disappointing surprise.

[steve dave]

players

disapointment:   '08 class.  Should have just traded all of our picks for players to be named later.
suprise:   Denis though I thought he would be kinda good.  Kent kinda.  Lu kinda.  Nobody was a huge suprise I guess just a bunch of small suprises which led to a better season than expected.

[Chingon]

Players
Good:  Clemente (grew into the team leader), Kent (contributing much more than I thought)
Bad: Pullen (I was hoping for more consistency and smarter decisions), Sutton (defensively is not as good as hyped, zero offense)

Games
Good:  UT, @aTm
Bad:  Baylor, ku (only because of the big lead we pissed away)

[steve dave]

Oh yeah, add Sutton to my disapointment list under kinda

[Pete]

Surprise:  That my pre-season expectations were met/exceeded by this team

Disappointment: That I let myself revise those expectations.


I am excited about next year.  It's fun to have a decent point guard....forgot what that was like.  Personally, I am getting really into the the idea of going to Puerto Rico for that early non-con tournament next year. 

[blackman-era-front-rower]

the surprise is that they've actually played just well enough for the outcome to be a disappointment...

...as is always the case 

[ltrain37]

Oh yeah, add Sutton to my disapointment list under kinda

x2...I think my expectations of him were too high...I guess I was expecting his offensive game to pick up a little more.

For some reason the Baylor game bothers me more (now...not at the time) than any other conference game...maybe its because they are terrible.

All in all...7-6 is better than I thought we'd be at this point.

[yosh]

I didn't find anything particularly suprising at all about the season.   

[ksudrew]

Surprise:  That my pre-season expectations were met/exceeded by this team

Disappointment: That I let myself revise those expectations.
 

team did an outstanding job of building expectations through non con only to destroy them in vegas and oregon, reestablish them in remaining non con only to destroy them in early conference, reestablishing them with 6 game streak only to destroy them against uk and um - road the roller coaster this year
     
only fatty was able to maintain an even keel through out 

[Ben Kenobi]

Pretty much everything about KSU mbb is a disappointment

[cireksu]

suprise
clemente
shot at 10-6
overall explosiveness when all cylinders are clicking

dissapointments
pullen
anderson

[cas]

Anderson is the biggest disappointment. Easily. 

[fatty fat fat]

surprise:
7-6 this far into big 12 play

disappointment:
curtis kelly hints @ greatness (got much more denclem hints last year)

[sys]

surprise, clemente and samuels.  neither really phenomenal, but martin proves once again that you can't just automatically laugh off his crazy statements/predics.

disappointment, pullen.  not a major disappointment, just a little one.  no major disappoints. for the katz, they've outperformed.

[sys]

curtis kelly hints @ greatness (got much more denclem hints last year)

ryan wright v2

[KCcat28]

Surprise for me is Kent... I didn't think he was good enough to start full time on this team but he has really shown a lot of heart and has played well for a good part of the season. Yes he has had bad games but I was expecting his whole season to be bad and it just hasn't. I know a lot of us have bashed him this year but for a kid that was a break guy for beasley last year he has done all he can and then some with his low amount of talent that he has.

Disappointment has to be Pullen for me. This kid had such a terrific freshman season but has played horrible for a large point of this season with all of his turnovers he has had, even more than last year. He needs to be averaging around 15-16 ppg for a 2. His 3 point shot has been off most of the season and he isn't attacking the basket as much as he did last year...

[jthutch]

Biggest surprise the team overachieved all the way around.  They were picked 8th in the conference and if everything works out as I hope they will (3 wins) We should finish in the top 1/3 of the conference.

Disappointment  That Ben Kenobi hasn't contracted and incurable finger disease where he can not longer type and maybe lose his voice so that is out too. 

[catzacker]

I don't get the pullen disappointment. he's the second leading scorer on the team behind clemente.  

[yoga-lika_abana]

I don't get the pullen disappointment. he's the second leading scorer on the team behind clemente.  

He's been about as consistent as OB'z bowel movements.

[sys]

I don't get the pullen disappointment. he's the second leading scorer on the team behind clemente.  

katfans were hyping him like crazy from last year's ku game on.  it's more about ksu fans overrating him than him underperforming.  he's been the exact same player this year as he was last year (except a much better on ball defender).

[yoga-lika_abana]

I don't get the pullen disappointment. he's the second leading scorer on the team behind clemente.  

katfans were hyping him like crazy from last year's ku game on.  it's more about ksu fans overrating him than him underperforming.  he's been the exact same player this year as he was last year (except a much better on ball defender).

yeah, I was hoping for some growth in his game, but a couple solid bigs next year will help out a lot.

[ksu_FAN]

Pullen has improved a bunch on defense.  And he's going to be the same inconsistent player offensively he was last year, especially without Bill and Mike to play off of.  Hopefully next year we'll see a more consistent offensive player.