GP

[michigancat]

I like the way he consistently mispells "root".

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

pretty terrible first post.

You don't see any truth there? How well do you really know GP? He and his staff are putting the full court press on contacting the recruits to reassure them he is not going to KSU (yet). I'm a tcu fan but I have always routed for KSU to a certain extent. The Bishop years were magical (not in a gay way). I actually consider myself a fairly neutral observer.

How well do you know him?  Did he tell you he doesnt want a "turnaround gig"? KSU isnt necessarily a turnaroung gig...all he has to do is watch some film and see there is some talent on the roster...just retards coaching them.  The facilities are in place, the boosters will pay out the a$$ for anything GP wants. GP already has a recruiting pipeline in TX, as does ksu (as was v. evident for 10+ yrs). He wont get drilled wk in and wk out while rebuilding bc, if you havent noticed, ksu plays in the big 12 north....which is simply terrible.  The only program doin anything right now is Mizzou...and they're gonna suck the next few yrs.
Do you know that the chances of Fran comin to ksu are pretty frackin slim and if its not GP it'll likely be Snyder?

Pretty well. There is little proof that you can sustain good recruiting in Manhattan. Snyder went to a freakin BCS bowl (2003? too lazy to research) and he couln't translate it into better recruiting. The program actually slipped into 

Don't think that kind of stuff goes unnoticed. GP is 48 and isn't ready to come home and die yet. In a couple to three years he may take the chance.

Serial?  Ever heard of a little something called the DoD (decade of dominance).  All it takes is a few competent assistants, which snyder lacked after '03 and was too loyal to them to get rid of them.  GP has a good staff that he'll bring with him and they can obviously recruit.  Also...I highly doubt if you know GP so well you'd be on some trash message board like this spouting off inside info.

   

I'm on this board because you guys invaded ours and I thought you guys were funny as hell. Thought I would visit and give you some scoop at the same time.

Thanks for the info Rick.

Wow. That was offensive. I think I will take my ball and go home.

When you sit back and think about the events on Friday you'll see I speak the truth.

[JR Ewing]

Wow. That was offensive. I think I will take my ball LFBIQ and go home.

When you sit back and think about the events on Friday you'll see I speak the truth.

FYP 

[The Oracle]

I like the way he consistently mispells "root".

Solid sports point. 

[CatsNChiefs]

I like the way he consistently mispells "root".

Solid sports point. 

QFT!  Keep on topic, "The" Oracle is gracing us with his presence, don't waste "the" man's/woman's/tranny's time.

[stevo9033]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

do you not understand that ksu is not a turnaround program...we have far more talent than tcu, they are just not as well coached. We have a top  draft pick coming back with a lot of talent around him. tcu is a crapty program to say the least. You guys can't even sell out a game, thats pathetic. I have a friend on the ksu team and they whole team has been told that GP is going to be our new coach. Go start posting on another board and try to figure out who your new coach is, instead of trying to bring back GP.

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

do you not understand that ksu is not a turnaround program...we have far more talent than tcu, they are just not as well coached. We have a top  draft pick coming back with a lot of talent around him. tcu is a crapty program to say the least. You guys can't even sell out a game, thats pathetic. I have a friend on the ksu team and they whole team has been told that GP is going to be our new coach. Go start posting on another board and try to figure out who your new coach is, instead of trying to bring back GP.

Is crapty a good thing? I tried to look it up in the Urban Dictionary you guys like and couldn't find it. Maybe you have your own language up there. You actually have a potential draft pick? That changes everything!

Let me try to make this simple for you: if GP thinks you are a turn around then it doesn't matter what you think. You are a turn around.

You guys need to concentrate on JUCOs. You have always been good at that. We and most of the rest of the country don't care so much about them. Also, if you have more talent, schedule us. You always blame the coaches. You just can't grasp that Manhattan is a tough place to win.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yes, the "rest of the country" cares so little about Juco's that it's getting harder and harder for K-State to get the top ones.

Do you try to be a dumbass.

[ArchE_Cat]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

do you not understand that ksu is not a turnaround program...we have far more talent than tcu, they are just not as well coached. We have a top  draft pick coming back with a lot of talent around him. tcu is a crapty program to say the least. You guys can't even sell out a game, thats pathetic. I have a friend on the ksu team and they whole team has been told that GP is going to be our new coach. Go start posting on another board and try to figure out who your new coach is, instead of trying to bring back GP.

Is crapty a good thing? I tried to look it up in the Urban Dictionary you guys like and couldn't find it. Maybe you have your own language up there. You actually have a potential draft pick? That changes everything!

Let me try to make this simple for you: if GP thinks you are a turn around then it doesn't matter what you think. You are a turn around.

You guys need to concentrate on JUCOs. You have always been good at that. We and most of the rest of the country don't care so much about them. Also, if you have more talent, schedule us. You always blame the coaches. You just can't grasp that Manhattan is a tough place to win.

Have the Frogs ever been to an Alliance/BCS bowl? Maybe that says something about your conference affiliations.

Btw, KSU has won the Fiesta and made it to another Fiesta Bowl while having more than 1 loss . Amazing what being in a real conference can do for you.

[ArchE_Cat]

American Standard aka Champion for Toilets,

BTW, http://www.americanstandard-us.com/Products/products.aspx?area=bath&cat=3. Just thought I would let you know that your name is fitting. 

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

do you not understand that ksu is not a turnaround program...we have far more talent than tcu, they are just not as well coached. We have a top  draft pick coming back with a lot of talent around him. tcu is a crapty program to say the least. You guys can't even sell out a game, thats pathetic. I have a friend on the ksu team and they whole team has been told that GP is going to be our new coach. Go start posting on another board and try to figure out who your new coach is, instead of trying to bring back GP.

Is crapty a good thing? I tried to look it up in the Urban Dictionary you guys like and couldn't find it. Maybe you have your own language up there. You actually have a potential draft pick? That changes everything!

Let me try to make this simple for you: if GP thinks you are a turn around then it doesn't matter what you think. You are a turn around.

You guys need to concentrate on JUCOs. You have always been good at that. We and most of the rest of the country don't care so much about them. Also, if you have more talent, schedule us. You always blame the coaches. You just can't grasp that Manhattan is a tough place to win.

Have the Frogs ever been to an Alliance/BCS bowl? Maybe that says something about your conference affiliations.

Btw, KSU has won the Fiesta and made it to another Fiesta Bowl while having more than 1 loss . Amazing what being in a real conference can do for you.

How did that work out for you? That's right, Snyder used the BCS game to catapult KSU into a perinial BCS power...

Wait, you guys went straight into the toilet after that game and have been there since. GP notices that. We don't deserve the BCS this year because we lost to Utah. If we had won and beat AF we would be in. BTW, we are still 18th with two losses so someone likes our condference. I guess you don't get to vote.

FYI, the way OSU treated you in that game showed you didn't really belong either. Tell the truth.

[The Oracle]

American Standard aka Champion for Toilets,

BTW, http://www.americanstandard-us.com/Products/products.aspx?area=bath&cat=3. Just thought I would let you know that your name is fitting. 

Tks for the info. I don't share your facination with toilets so wouldn't have known. Then again, I haven't been around you fine program in beautiful Manhattan. I can see where you would get hooked.

[sonofdaxjones]

More Horned Fans . . . not "getting it".   

[Cougar2k]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

do you not understand that ksu is not a turnaround program...we have far more talent than tcu, they are just not as well coached. We have a top  draft pick coming back with a lot of talent around him. tcu is a crapty program to say the least. You guys can't even sell out a game, thats pathetic. I have a friend on the ksu team and they whole team has been told that GP is going to be our new coach. Go start posting on another board and try to figure out who your new coach is, instead of trying to bring back GP.

You just can't grasp that Manhattan is a tough place to win.

Yep, sure is. When we go to a BCS bowl, we play pretty tough teams. Not that you guys would understand.

[michigancat]

[The Oracle]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

do you not understand that ksu is not a turnaround program...we have far more talent than tcu, they are just not as well coached. We have a top  draft pick coming back with a lot of talent around him. tcu is a crapty program to say the least. You guys can't even sell out a game, thats pathetic. I have a friend on the ksu team and they whole team has been told that GP is going to be our new coach. Go start posting on another board and try to figure out who your new coach is, instead of trying to bring back GP.

You just can't grasp that Manhattan is a tough place to win.

Yep, sure is. When we go to a BCS bowl, we play pretty tough teams. Not that you guys would understand.

Nothing but patsies for us. That is the way we like which is why we have tried to schedule your fine program. Wait, OU in '05, Tech in '06 

[sonofdaxjones]

Hey, we all actually like tcu.

There's no need for the tcu validation nation to be over here responding to every fracking post.

But as I said yesterday, the Big 12 holds like a 250 win advantage over current Mountain West teams, the Big 12 is 4-0 against the Mountain West this year and the 2nd or 3rd best team in the Mt. West lost to the 2nd or 3rd best Big 12 team this year by 25, and it was 35-3 going into the 4th quarter.

[Saulbadguy]

We like tcu - good choice of color!

 

[The Oracle]

Hey, we all actually like tcu.

There's no need for the tcu validation nation to be over here responding to every fracking post.

But as I said yesterday, the Big 12 holds like a 250 win advantage over current Mountain West teams, the Big 12 is 4-0 against the Mountain West this year and the 2nd or 3rd best team in the Mt. West lost to the 2nd or 3rd best Big 12 team this year by 25, and it was 35-3 going into the 4th quarter.

I would never suggest the MWC is better. However, was the Big East better than the Big 12 last year? No way yet their best beat your best handily. The Big 12 also is 2 and 3 versus the Big East this year. The top teams in almost any conference and compete with anyone generally. tcu's loss to OU is looking pretty salty compared to what OU has done to the Big 12 except for UT. On the road with 4 turnovers, a bushel of penalties and two long scores when our corners slipped in the 1st Q. Check OU's stats in that game compared to every other game they have played. The Nation noticed which is why we are still 18th after two losses.

[sonofdaxjones]

So kuDO's to tcu for keeping it close at OU and only losing by 25, and for the Mountain West to go a close by no cigar 0-4 againt the Big 12 this year.

[The Oracle]

So kuDO's to tcu for keeping it close at OU and only losing by 25, and for the Mountain West to go a close by no cigar 0-4 againt the Big 12 this year.

Right back at you. You might take a look at the other 3 teams you beat in the MWC before boasting. Otherwise we would need to include the other Big 12 teams tcu has made a living on this century. I don't see anyone rushing to schedule BYU and Utah or even AF. No one schedules OOC weaker than the 12.

BTW, what was that score in the OU/KSU game? OU/Kansas? OU/aTm? etc, etc. OU stopped scoring after the 3rd in each of those I think. Didn't they score 49, or was it 55, in the 1st half against you guys? That had to leave a mark. That is also why any coach has to think long and hard before he takes over that mess. Like poor Prince, it can easily be there last HC gig at the top levels.

I don't envy the hill you guys have to climb.

[sonofdaxjones]

The thing the resident tcutards can't seem to grasp, is that we fully acknowledge that our team isn't very good.

Now, you guys keep wanting to tell us how great tcu is this year, well, they couldn't stay within 3 TD's of the Big 12's 3rd best team. 

It really has to suck for anybody associated with tcu knowing your team will likely go 10-2 and get an absolutely fab bowl trip to . . . Ft. Worth Texas in the middle of December.

I really hate it for you guys that  you have to toil away in such obscurity.

[willie83]

So kuDO's to tcu for keeping it close at OU and only losing by 25, and for the Mountain West to go a close by no cigar 0-4 againt the Big 12 this year.

Right back at you. You might take a look at the other 3 teams you beat in the MWC before boasting. Otherwise we would need to include the other Big 12 teams tcu has made a living on this century. I don't see anyone rushing to schedule BYU and Utah or even AF. No one schedules OOC weaker than the 12.

BTW, what was that score in the OU/KSU game? OU/Kansas? OU/aTm? etc, etc. OU stopped scoring after the 3rd in each of those I think. Didn't they score 49, or was it 55, in the 1st half against you guys? That had to leave a mark. That is also why any coach has to think long and hard before he takes over that mess. Like poor Prince, it can easily be there last HC gig at the top levels.

I don't envy the hill you guys have to climb.

Why do you think we want your coach? We suck and our former coach can't recruit. GP could produce a dynasty in a BCS conference, and what better place to do that than his alma mater.

[The Oracle]

Yes, the "rest of the country" cares so little about Juco's that it's getting harder and harder for K-State to get the top ones.

Do you try to be a dumbass.

I was talking about successful programs. If you aren't getting the JUCOs I guess that explains kus demise after the one hit wonder. I am sure that GP will really be excited to learn that KSU can't even recruit JUCO let alone HS. Wait, he already knows that which is why he isn't coming. I really am trying to be nice and focus on the good things there. However, I fear I am working with a blank canvas! Go Cats. I guess.

[The Oracle]

The thing the resident tcutards can't seem to grasp, is that we fully acknowledge that our team isn't very good.

Now, you guys keep wanting to tell us how great tcu is this year, well, they couldn't stay within 3 TD's of the Big 12's 3rd best team. 

It really has to suck for anybody associated with tcu knowing your team will likely go 10-2 and get an absolutely fab bowl trip to . . . Ft. Worth Texas in the middle of December.

I really hate it for you guys that  you have to toil away in such obscurity.

Um. We were within 3 touchdowns of the best team this year, on the road, and they had a bye week. Also, how obscure is 18th in the country? Just asking.

[The Oracle]

So kuDO's to tcu for keeping it close at OU and only losing by 25, and for the Mountain West to go a close by no cigar 0-4 againt the Big 12 this year.

Right back at you. You might take a look at the other 3 teams you beat in the MWC before boasting. Otherwise we would need to include the other Big 12 teams tcu has made a living on this century. I don't see anyone rushing to schedule BYU and Utah or even AF. No one schedules OOC weaker than the 12.

BTW, what was that score in the OU/KSU game? OU/Kansas? OU/aTm? etc, etc. OU stopped scoring after the 3rd in each of those I think. Didn't they score 49, or was it 55, in the 1st half against you guys? That had to leave a mark. That is also why any coach has to think long and hard before he takes over that mess. Like poor Prince, it can easily be there last HC gig at the top levels.

I don't envy the hill you guys have to climb.

Why do you think we want your coach? We suck and our former coach can't recruit. GP could produce a dynasty in a BCS conference, and what better place to do that than his alma mater.

I think there are 64 teams in the BCS? So probably 63 better places for him to succeed. I'm sure he'll still visit you guys on alternating holidays.

[sonofdaxjones]

"One hit wonder" . . . come on, tcu prior to DF went 107-225 .322 in the previous 32 years, tcu only went to 3 bowl games from 1964 to 1995.   Face it, when the SWC got a little backbone (not much) tcu faltered big time.

On Juco's take a look at where the top JC players are going and then we'll discuss who is getting them, thanks.

18th in the country and you'll do no better than the Armed Forces Bowl, and the biggest MtWest games of the year being on Versus and CBS College Sports on a Thursday night is obscurity . . . and reality.

Again, you keep bragging about how formidable tcu is, and how great the Mt. West is . . . but again, the 2nd or 3rd best team in the Mt. West goes down by 25 to the 2nd or 3rd best Big 12 team, and was down 35-3 going into the 4th quarter. 

[leawoodcat]

I like the way he consistently mispells "root".

Great use of irony, Rusty.

[The Oracle]

"One hit wonder" . . . come on, tcu prior to DF went 107-225 .322 in the previous 32 years, tcu only went to 3 bowl games from 1964 to 1995.   Face it, when the SWC got a little backbone (not much) tcu faltered big time.

On Juco's take a look at where the top JC players are going and then we'll discuss who is getting them, thanks.

18th in the country and you'll do no better than the Armed Forces Bowl, and the biggest MtWest games of the year being on Versus and CBS College Sports on a Thursday night is obscurity . . . and reality.

Again, you keep bragging about how formidable tcu is, and how great the Mt. West is . . . but again, the 2nd or 3rd best team in the Mt. West goes down by 25 to the 2nd or 3rd best Big 12 team, and was down 35-3 going into the 4th quarter. 

I was referring to ku as the 1 hit wonder. You left out our 2 NCs if you want to get into history. Generally, there are two teams in the Big 12 that we would not expect to beat, especially on the road. This year there is 3. Next year we will be back to two. This year will be to Tech what '03 was to KSU and last year was to ku. Leach will bolt knowing the cupboard is a bit thin and they will begin the decline to mediocrity just like ku is doing and KSU did. The only problem is, KSU never stopped. Now you guys think the toilet is a bath tub or swimming pool. Not your fault, just saying.

[ksu98]

No chance. He isn't ready because he doesn't want a turn around gig. His hope is his buddy Fran gets the job and does for KSU what he did for tcu. Build a good foundation and get a recruiting pipeling going. Fran will want to leave in 3-4 years, after going to a bcouple bowl games, and there will be more to work with for GP. He just has no interest in getting his lungs kicked in week in and week out for 2 years.

do you not understand that ksu is not a turnaround program...we have far more talent than tcu, they are just not as well coached. We have a top  draft pick coming back with a lot of talent around him. tcu is a crapty program to say the least. You guys can't even sell out a game, thats pathetic. I have a friend on the ksu team and they whole team has been told that GP is going to be our new coach. Go start posting on another board and try to figure out who your new coach is, instead of trying to bring back GP.

Is crapty a good thing? I tried to look it up in the Urban Dictionary you guys like and couldn't find it. Maybe you have your own language up there. You actually have a potential draft pick? That changes everything!

Let me try to make this simple for you: if GP thinks you are a turn around then it doesn't matter what you think. You are a turn around.

You guys need to concentrate on JUCOs. You have always been good at that. We and most of the rest of the country don't care so much about them. Also, if you have more talent, schedule us. You always blame the coaches. You just can't grasp that Manhattan is a tough place to win.

Have the Frogs ever been to an Alliance/BCS bowl? Maybe that says something about your conference affiliations.

Btw, KSU has won the Fiesta and made it to another Fiesta Bowl while having more than 1 loss . Amazing what being in a real conference can do for you.

How did that work out for you? That's right, Snyder used the BCS game to catapult KSU into a perinial BCS power...

Wait, you guys went straight into the toilet after that game and have been there since. GP notices that. We don't deserve the BCS this year because we lost to Utah. If we had won and beat AF we would be in. BTW, we are still 18th with two losses so someone likes our condference. I guess you don't get to vote.

FYI, the way OSU treated you in that game showed you didn't really belong either. Tell the truth.

You guys lost your BCS bid when OU made you cry.