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October 31, 2008, 03:27:29 AM
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I'll be honest, i didn't read past reply number 2 or 3... for Leo crap i would take a bag of balls. not saying he is bad but crap as far as i see this its a damn good move.

October 31, 2008, 05:55:12 AM
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(OPS+ is better, but is complex and involves multiple stats.)

Jacobs has an OPS+ of 119 where Gload is only at 79. Jacobs' SLG% was almost 200 points higher than
Gloads. Jacobs is a definite upgrade at first base for us. Gload is and always will be a utility man, not an everyday 1b.

Gload is the worst first baseman in baseball.  Better than Gload isn't saying much, but the fact that we traded away someone with real value for someone who gets out more than Ross Gload is staggering.

And Jacobs' OPS+ is actually 110 for his career.  Billy Butler's is 99, but Butler is 6 years younger.  Sure it's an upgrade, but it could have been a lot better.

October 31, 2008, 03:48:59 PM
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(OPS+ is better, but is complex and involves multiple stats.)

Jacobs has an OPS+ of 119 where Gload is only at 79. Jacobs' SLG% was almost 200 points higher than
Gloads. Jacobs is a definite upgrade at first base for us. Gload is and always will be a utility man, not an everyday 1b.

Gload is the worst first baseman in baseball.  Better than Gload isn't saying much, but the fact that we traded away someone with real value for someone who gets out more than Ross Gload is staggering.

And Jacobs' OPS+ is actually 110 for his career.  Billy Butler's is 99, but Butler is 6 years younger.  Sure it's an upgrade, but it could have been a lot better.

I think the Royals took Jacobs because he'd be a cheap source of power and wouldn't cost us much as a Pat Burrell or Adam Dunn, thus saving us money to put towards a player like that. We can fill Leo's spot in the pen and be alright. If we sign a starter, either Davies, Hoch, or Bannister can fill the long reliever spot in the pen.

November 01, 2008, 01:07:17 PM
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November 02, 2008, 06:30:34 PM
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(OPS+ is better, but is complex and involves multiple stats.)

Jacobs has an OPS+ of 119 where Gload is only at 79. Jacobs' SLG% was almost 200 points higher than
Gloads. Jacobs is a definite upgrade at first base for us. Gload is and always will be a utility man, not an everyday 1b.

Gload is the worst first baseman in baseball.  Better than Gload isn't saying much, but the fact that we traded away someone with real value for someone who gets out more than Ross Gload is staggering.

And Jacobs' OPS+ is actually 110 for his career.  Billy Butler's is 99, but Butler is 6 years younger.  Sure it's an upgrade, but it could have been a lot better.

I think the Royals took Jacobs because he'd be a cheap source of power and wouldn't cost us much as a Pat Burrell or Adam Dunn, thus saving us money to put towards a player like that. We can fill Leo's spot in the pen and be alright. If we sign a starter, either Davies, Hoch, or Bannister can fill the long reliever spot in the pen.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hoch as a long reliever. kids young has some stuff

November 12, 2008, 06:33:52 PM
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#1 pick, a long reliever? srsly?
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November 12, 2008, 09:47:19 PM
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#1 pick, a long reliever? srsly?

well you've seen him as a starter... #1 pick* or not if he doesn't have the stuff to be a starter why force it?

*royals #1 pick is not a normal #1 pick

November 13, 2008, 11:57:39 AM
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"On August 3, nearly two months after the draft, Hochevar signed a four-year major league contract worth $5.3 million guaranteed with the Royals. He received a $3.5 million signing bonus with the ability to earn as much as $7 million over the four years."

That's a pretty normal #1 these days.
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November 13, 2008, 03:26:25 PM
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#1 pick, a long reliever? srsly?

Zach spent some time in the bullpen and he was a number 1 pick. I believe Jason Isringhausen was a number 1 pick by the Mets and went from
being a starter to the pen. I don't think he will, but I don't think it would hurt him either. There was also a rumor that Hoch could be used in a trade for Jeff Francoeur.
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