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October 02, 2008, 11:39:45 PM
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Yo fellas, just finished 40 Years At Gombe by Jane Goodall, an EXCELLENT read.
This book is an excellent read, for the casual animal lover as well as those with a deep interest in primatology.

Anyone else like Goodall and/or have any interest in primatology?  I'd recommend the book, surprisingly very introspective.


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October 03, 2008, 10:27:33 AM
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You talkin to me, man? 

You know I'm involved in that primate rescue charity in Cameroon, right?  I am a big admirer of Dr. Goodall.  At the Mefou sanctuary outside Younde, she's listed on the honorary board of directors, just as she is ini Limbe too.  I have not read this particular book; my wife and I favor gorillas over chimps, although the chimps at Mefou were pretty darn cool.

There is a paper I'm searching for in which chimp groups are observed demonstrating behaviors that suggest a concept of a god, such as the ceremonial way they treat the death of an elder.  I read it in the forests of Cameroon and then lost my only copy.

October 03, 2008, 10:31:56 AM
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You talkin to me, man? 

You know I'm involved in that primate rescue charity in Cameroon, right?  I am a big admirer of Dr. Goodall.  At the Mefou sanctuary outside Younde, she's listed on the honorary board of directors, just as she is ini Limbe too.  I have not read this particular book; my wife and I favor gorillas over chimps, although the chimps at Mefou were pretty darn cool.

There is a paper I'm searching for in which chimp groups are observed demonstrating behaviors that suggest a concept of a god, such as the ceremonial way they treat the death of an elder.  I read it in the forests of Cameroon and then lost my only copy.
did not know that.  actually just was watching Planet Earth on DVD about a month ago and the girlfriend and i both grabbed a couple of books to read.  that's just the one i found first at the kcmo library near my house.  good stuff, not sure if you've seen it but sounds like you would enjoy.


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October 03, 2008, 06:10:16 PM
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more charismatic megafaunaphilic pseudo'vationist groupies.

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October 03, 2008, 08:21:56 PM
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Meh, it sucked.

I recommend "Dirty White Boys" by Stephen Hunter.

October 03, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
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more charismatic megafaunaphilic pseudo'vationist groupies.

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On a scale of 1-10 how much does it piss you off when politicians take pot-shots at bear DNA research earmarks and the like?
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October 03, 2008, 09:45:28 PM
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On a scale of 1-10 how much does it piss you off when politicians take pot-shots at bear DNA research earmarks and the like?

maybe a 4.  i don´t see any of that sweet, sweet federal money or i'd go all 10.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

October 04, 2008, 12:36:57 AM
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Forty years.  My God.  Where, oh where does the time go?  Of course, Dr. Goodall is spending a whole lot more time on the lecture circuit than in Tanzania these days.  I really need to make an effort to go see her speak.  I actually know a few people who have met her and they describe her as someone who is personally warm, engaging, and driven. 

Unfortunately, I have to point out that Dr. Goodall and I do disagree on a few points.  For example, she got her start from Louis Leaky and has given nothing but the highest praise for his work. I don't know a lot about the Leaky family, but I do know their anthropology/paleontology has done more to help the cause of Darwinism than many. She, herself, has referenced or alluded to evolution on many occasions. That's okay. You can't be a doctor in her line of work and believe anything else.

Additionally, Dr. Goodall has openly praised "An Inconvenient Truth" and Al Gore several times. I admit that I haven't seen it, but I don't feel the need to see it to know Al Gore is a fraud and the "science" he espouses is an end to a means.  Her support of him reveals how close to the fringe she really is. 

It's situations like these, however, in which I must force myself to remember that faulty logic in one area does not necessarily take away from the very positive things she has to say.

Haraka haraka haina baraka, Dr. Goodall.  Asante.

October 04, 2008, 12:43:43 AM
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Dr. Goodall has openly praised "An Inconvenient Truth" and Al Gore several times. I admit that I haven't seen it, but I don't feel the need to see it to know Al Gore is a fraud and the "science" he espouses is an end to a means.

very wise not to see the film, imo.  poorly written and directed films can be very dangerous.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

October 04, 2008, 09:47:43 PM
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Additionally, Dr. Goodall has openly praised "An Inconvenient Truth" and Al Gore several times. I admit that I haven't seen it, but I don't feel the need to see it to know Al Gore is a fraud and the "science" he espouses is an end to a means.  Her support of him reveals how close to the fringe she really is. 

Well,I think there is a little bit of fringe in all the primate celebrities.  Diane Fossey, as you might remember, was somethin of a nutjob (I still love her work).  My personal experience in Mefou was great, but the people who slive there--Rachel Hogan, for instance, who has been on Animal Planet--have to have a bit of a screw loose.  Volunteers who stay for three months are one thing; people who devote their lives to living in those conditions day in and day out for little or no money ... if they were rescuing people we would call them saints; because they are rescuing primates, it's easy to dismiss them.

By the way, chum1 ... good call on the Al Gore movie.  We may get along after all.