a big uh-oh for ku...looking over USF depth chart...

[The Manhatter]

their starting OL has 84 career starts!!!  The magic # of starts for what is predictably a very good team/offense = 75.

Not good news.

Add to that the playmakers they have at receiver and a 3rd year starting QB who's moxie would eat Reesing's lil' moxie for lunch.

I knew USF was experienced offensively but not THAT experienced.

[fatty fat fat]

grothe sucks. can you imagine the love freemaw would get if he had a defense like USF's?

barring turnovers, USF should win.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

ku should still roll.  12-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Manhatter]

grothe sucks.

LOL..Grothe is solid.  He's a little field general and tough as nails.  A winner.

[fatty fat fat]

  He's a little field general and tough as nails.  A winner.

[The Manhatter]

58 starts by 3 of the 4 starting DL.  Strong Safety w/ 35 starts! 

corners look raw but they're more experienced on defense than I remembered..

https://admin.xosn.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7700&ATCLID=1573301

[fatty fat fat]

the only way USF loses is grothe goes sean glennon on his team.

[The Manhatter]

the only way USF loses is grothe goes sean glennon on his team.

I don't know...I go back to a quote Phil Fulmer used about KSU's veteran team prior to the Cotton. 

"They have a lot of players who have been in a lot of wars" (when talking about his concern for KSU)

ku has a lot of gritty gray hairs on that defense.  USF is going to have to really bring it to win.  ku is a very physically tough football team.  What they lack in talent they make up for in toughness and discipline.     (<-- like Snyder's old teams  )

[Saulbadguy]

ku defensive options being eliminated as we speak...

[cireksu]

I think grothe kinda sucks too.  maybe not sucks but very average and not a playmaker.

ku's D completely shuts down USF to the tune of 260 yds.

[catzacker]

our defense would be redic. if it had as much discipline and heart as ku's.  sucks to say, but true. 

[j@yh@wks]

our defense would be redic. if it had as much discipline and heart as ku's.  sucks to say, but true. 

i bet you feel a little sick now don't ya

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

our defense would be redic. if it had as much discipline and heart as ku's.  sucks to say, but true. 

That's what coaches are supposed to provide.  Oh well, it's all part of the plan.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

our defense would be redic. if it had as much discipline and heart as ku's.  sucks to say, but true. 

That's what coaches are supposed to provide.  Oh well, it's all part of the plan.

^Dave Stewart^

[catdude33]

our defense would be redic. if it had as much discipline and heart as ku's.  sucks to say, but true. 

We are the Jamie O'Hare's and they are the Daniel Ruettiger's.

[The Manhatter]

our defense would be redic. if it had as much discipline and heart as ku's.  sucks to say, but true. 

We are the Jamie O'Hare's and they are the Daniel Ruettiger's.

too bad our RB's are Ruettigers.  btw and fyi, if ever on gpc board don't you dare say something about our rb situation.  you will end up face down in a pool of your own blood.

[cas]

the only way USF loses is grothe goes sean glennon on his team.

QFT.

Brining up another point, is there another team as overrated year in and year out a VT??

[k-state-wildcats11]

the only way USF loses is grothe goes sean glennon on his team.

QFT.

Brining up another point, is there another team as overrated year in and year out a VT??

IMO

[cas]

the only way USF loses is grothe goes sean glennon on his team.

QFT.

Brining up another point, is there another team as overrated year in and year out a VT??

IMO

Point taken. Although ND is crapty and isn't in the top 25. VT, IMO, has never been as good as they were rated.

[j@yh@wks]

the only way USF loses is grothe goes sean glennon on his team.

QFT.

Brining up another point, is there another team as overrated year in and year out a VT??

IMO

nebraska?

[cas]

the only way USF loses is grothe goes sean glennon on his team.

QFT.

Brining up another point, is there another team as overrated year in and year out a VT??

IMO

nebraska?

Remember when Nebraska was like God??? Thank god that won't ever happen again.