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Author Topic: ku's Rivera playing in his 5th season without ever redshirting.  (Read 2444 times)

September 10, 2008, 11:53:00 AM
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My post was more for the resident Validators.



So was mine.

Well . . . that's about it I guess.



Pretty much.  So, what now? 

Where is brew?  I like it when he gets his ass kicked then talks tough on the internet.

September 10, 2008, 11:55:39 AM
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Where's Arty?

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September 10, 2008, 11:58:23 AM
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anybody going to report this to ncaa?? i would be happy to send them an email about this situation

September 10, 2008, 12:01:38 PM
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My post was more for the resident Validators.



So was mine.

Well . . . that's about it I guess.



Pretty much.  So, what now? 

Where is brew?  I like it when he gets his ass kicked then talks tough on the internet.

Lunch rush at the steak house? Lotsa Bloomin Onions to serve and whatnot.

September 10, 2008, 01:31:11 PM
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ku's Compliance Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ksufans "compliance" department

September 10, 2008, 01:32:06 PM
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ku's Compliance Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ksufans "compliance" department

awesome first post. so scientific :cheers:
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September 10, 2008, 02:01:49 PM
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ku's Compliance Department >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ksufans "compliance" department

I dunno, ksufans isn't on probabtion for "Lack of Institutional Control" that I know of.

September 10, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
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This  article is very detailed

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/NCAA/NCAA+News/NCAA+News+Online/2005/Association-wide/Education+should+alleviate+hardship+in+requesting+waivers+-+6-6-04+NCAA+News?pageDesign=Printer+Friendly+NCAA+News+And+Updates

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In Division I, a student-athlete can apply for a hardship waiver if a season-ending injury or illness occurs in the first half of the season. The student-athlete, however, must not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent (whichever is greater) of the institution's scheduled contests.

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"One confusing point from a coaching standpoint is practice status," Courson said. "They think even though (a student-athlete) is receiving a hardship waiver that they can go out and practice. That's technically not the case. For example, I may have an athlete who had an anterior cruciate ligament reconstructed in the summer, and he's not ready to play in the fall. We can do some functional rehabilitation with him -- he may be able to wander out to football practice and do some exercises on the side. But it's not permissible for him to practice with that team or he jeopardizes his hardship waiver year."


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September 10, 2008, 02:26:39 PM
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But it's not permissible for him to practice with that team or he jeopardizes his hardship waiver year

So practicing with the team at a level needed to attain "scout team player of the week" late in the season might fall under this category?

I'm sorry, but this thing still confuses the heck out of me. 
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September 10, 2008, 02:34:13 PM
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But it's not permissible for him to practice with that team or he jeopardizes his hardship waiver year

So practicing with the team at a level needed to attain "scout team player of the week" late in the season might fall under this category?

I'm sorry, but this thing still confuses the heck out of me. 


Only if you are trying to follow the rules. As somebody said on the basketball board, "ku stopped pretending they weren't cheating about 5 years ago."

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September 10, 2008, 04:33:51 PM
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But it's not permissible for him to practice with that team or he jeopardizes his hardship waiver year

So practicing with the team at a level needed to attain "scout team player of the week" late in the season might fall under this category?

I'm sorry, but this thing still confuses the heck out of me. 


Only if you are trying to follow the rules. As somebody said on the basketball board, "ku stopped pretending they weren't cheating about 5 years ago."

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me.


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September 10, 2008, 04:39:32 PM
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Email the NCAA

Could be epic if JS uncovers a ku cheating plot imho

September 10, 2008, 05:12:36 PM
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Email the NCAA

Could be epic if JS uncovers a ku cheating plot imho



Hayzoos cop'd it from a Mizzou fan on phog.net.

September 10, 2008, 05:13:32 PM
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This is the only way I can figure this deal out.  Basically, it's a loophole in the rule where the coach states that he didn't understand the rules.  This would fit Mangino's track record well.  

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14.2.6 Season-of-Competition Waiver—Competition While Eligible. A student-athlete may be granted an additional season of competition by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement in a case in which the student-athlete participated in a limited amount of competition while eligible due to a coach’s documented misunderstanding of the legislation or other extenuating circumstances. In cases in which a studentathlete does not meet the criteria of this waiver, the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement shall have authority to review and grant a waiver based on additional documented extenuating circumstances. (Adopted: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02; Revised: 10/28/04)

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14.2.6.2 Coach’s Documented Misunderstanding. The student-athlete participated as a result of good faith, reliance on a coaching staff member’s decision to put the student-athlete in an alumni contest, exhibition contests, scrimmages, or nonchampionship segment contests based on the coach’s documented misunderstanding of NCAA legislation and the competition occurred under the following conditions: (Adopted: 10/28/04)
(a) The competition occurred while the student-athlete was representing an NCAA institution;
(b) The competition occurred prior to the completion of the first 20 percent of the championship segment
of the institution’s declared playing and practice season; and
(c) The student-athlete did not compete in more than two events or 10 percent (whichever number is
greater) of the institution’s scheduled or completed events in his or her sport.
All competition (including a scrimmage) against outside participants shall be countable under this limitation in calculating both the number of events in which the student-athlete participated and the number of scheduled or completed events during that season (both segments) in the sport. (Revised: 8/4/05)

Under this scenario, there is a penalty, however:

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14.2.6.2.1 Penalty. A student-athlete who is granted a waiver pursuant to Bylaw 14.2.6.2 shall be withheld from two contests of intercollegiate competition for each contest in which he or she competed. (Adopted: 10/28/04)

Anyone know if Rivera has sat out two (or 4) games anytime in the last 4 seasons as a result of the above rule?
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September 10, 2008, 05:15:28 PM
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I'm sure the NCAA has no idea about the entire situation.... thanks for your efforts, Hayzoos.


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