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August 12, 2008, 06:19:55 PM
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everyone here knows/understands the reason Beasley came to K State right? Lets recap.... Michael Beasley/DC Assault + assitant coach University of Charlotte/Dalonte Hill/DC Assault= (here is the confusing part)first Michael Beasley to the University of Charlotte. Then..... assitant coach Kansas State/Dalonte Hill/DC Assualt + Michael Beasley/DC Assualt = Michael Beasley to Kansas State. Before Michael Beasley come along  Dalonte Hill was a AAU coach. Nothing more!

In the end the difference between Kansas and K State.




That and your school color is purple.  :lol:
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August 12, 2008, 06:23:51 PM
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2 words... Ronnie Chalmers... basketball recruiting is all about strategy these days. Teams will do what it takes to bring in top notch talent... even your beloved gayhawks

August 12, 2008, 06:25:48 PM
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Dalonte is still on the KSU staff, chalmers isn't. He was thrown away once his recruit moved on, Hill is a legit coach.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2008, 06:52:09 PM
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Dalonte is still on the KSU staff, chalmers isn't. He was thrown away once his recruit moved on, Hill is a legit coach.

Delonte has been responsible for many players on our roster currently, and those we have committed/ close to committed for '09.  See the difference between hiring a kid's dad and hiring a great recruiter with a seemingly endless pipeline from which to draw future talent?

August 12, 2008, 06:55:02 PM
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ku -> National Champs   


ksu -> Not National Champs

August 12, 2008, 06:59:59 PM
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ku -> National Champs   


ksu -> Not National Champs

LOL. Seriously? Are you high?
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2008, 07:00:30 PM
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Dalonte is still on the KSU staff, chalmers isn't. He was thrown away once his recruit moved on, Hill is a legit coach.

Delonte has been responsible for many players on our roster currently, and those we have committed/ close to committed for '09.  See the difference between hiring a kid's dad and hiring a great recruiter with a seemingly endless pipeline from which to draw future talent?

no similarities at all. IF Dalonte leaves we will cry, when ronnie left ku cheered.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2008, 07:02:00 PM
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Dalonte Hill = K-State's top assistant coach

Ronnie Chalmers = glorified ball boy

August 12, 2008, 07:10:53 PM
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Dalonte is still on the KSU staff, chalmers isn't. He was thrown away once his recruit moved on, Hill is a legit coach.

Delonte has been responsible for many players on our roster currently, and those we have committed/ close to committed for '09.  See the difference between hiring a kid's dad and hiring a great recruiter with a seemingly endless pipeline from which to draw future talent?

no similarities at all. IF Dalonte leaves we will cry, when ronnie left ku cheered.
I know. Disgusting, right?

August 12, 2008, 07:22:38 PM
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In the end the difference between Kansas and K State.



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August 12, 2008, 07:53:04 PM
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2 words... Ronnie Chalmers... basketball recruiting is all about strategy these days. Teams will do what it takes to bring in top notch talent... even your beloved gayhawks

I have no problem with this. Its the staties that seem to not understand this concept.

August 12, 2008, 08:05:08 PM
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Dalonte is still on the KSU staff, chalmers isn't. He was thrown away once his recruit moved on, Hill is a legit coach.

Lets not get stupid!

You people are missing the point, where would Ronnie be without Mario???? Sucking ice cold Eskimo's balls.
Where would Dalonte be without Michael, probably taking it fist deep in the state pin. Niether guys getting off first base without thier golden ticket. The same situation going on at Baylor with the Wall kid. Stop trying to spin a story so it works for you.
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August 12, 2008, 08:48:05 PM
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everyone here knows/understands the reason Beasley came to K State right? Lets recap.... Michael Beasley/DC Assault + assitant coach University of Charlotte/Dalonte Hill/DC Assault= (here is the confusing part)first Michael Beasley to the University of Charlotte. Then..... assitant coach Kansas State/Dalonte Hill/DC Assualt + Michael Beasley/DC Assualt = Michael Beasley to Kansas State. Before Michael Beasley come along  Dalonte Hill was a AAU coach. Nothing more!




Dudebro, your math sucks. 

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August 12, 2008, 08:59:48 PM
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Dalonte is still on the KSU staff, chalmers isn't. He was thrown away once his recruit moved on, Hill is a legit coach.

Lets not get stupid!

You people are missing the point, where would Ronnie be without Mario???? Sucking ice cold Eskimo's balls.
Where would Dalonte be without Michael, probably taking it fist deep in the state pin. Niether guys getting off first base without thier golden ticket. The same situation going on at Baylor with the Wall kid. Stop trying to spin a story so it works for you.

Ronnie was discarded after chalmers left. Hill is still an EMAW.

Maybe that's why self can't recruit anymore, no one likes a racist you know?
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 12, 2008, 09:26:27 PM
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To end all this fatty all I need is for you to answer one question. Ready? Would Beasley of went to KSU without Hill? Im waiting!

August 12, 2008, 10:08:30 PM
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To end all this fatty all I need is for you to answer one question. Ready? Would Beasley of went to KSU without Hill? Im waiting!

I guess another perspective is...Would Reed (or any member of snowcoat) "of" gone to ku without Ronnie?  Ronnie = insignificant to overall recruiting VS Hill = primary recruiter for those that don't speak Spanish.

August 12, 2008, 10:31:10 PM
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To end all this fatty all I need is for you to answer one question. Ready? Would Beasley of went to KSU without Hill? Im waiting!

The question is, would KSU have brought in Hill, if he wasn't bringing Beasley?  Very likely, with his recruiting ties, Hill still might have been hired as a low level assistant. 

Would Pappa Chalmers been hired had it not been for... well I really don't even need to ask that question.

August 12, 2008, 10:32:40 PM
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To end all this fatty all I need is for you to answer one question. Ready? Would Beasley of went to KSU without Hill? Im waiting!

The question is, would KSU have brought in Hill, if he wasn't bringing Beasley?  Very likely, with his recruiting ties, Hill still might have been hired as a low level assistant. 

Would Pappa Chalmers been hired had it not been for... well I really don't even need to ask that question.

exactly, hill was a shining star, beasley or not.

Hell, there is a reason people want him AFTER beasley is in the NBA. Is anyone scrambling to hire ronnie chalmers?

Zero comparison here. It's like ku doesn't even try to hide their cheating.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 13, 2008, 01:01:09 AM
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I enjoy reading everyones spins but lets stay on topic. Would Beasley of came to KSU without Hill? This is your problem with Ronnie Chalmers right? That it took him to get his son. Still having a hard time seeing difference with Hill and Beasley. You know why.....because there is none. Sad!

August 13, 2008, 03:02:26 AM
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August 13, 2008, 04:16:34 AM
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I enjoy reading everyones spins but lets stay on topic. Would Beasley of came to KSU without Hill? This is your problem with Ronnie Chalmers right? That it took him to get his son. Still having a hard time seeing difference with Hill and Beasley. You know why.....because there is none. Sad!

The scenarios are only similar in that a recruit came to both schools because of both men.  Chalmers was laughably unqualified to be hired at ku.  Dalonte (when he was hired by Huggins) was more than qualified to be our second assistant (behind Frank at the time).  Ronnie brought his son...no one else.  That was all he brought to the table.  Dalonte has brought in more than his fair share of recruits, and done more than his fair share of coaching.  Just because Beasley came to K-State because of Dalonte does not mean that he is not qualified for the job.  He is.  Ronnie Chalmers was not...that's the difference.

August 13, 2008, 06:59:54 AM
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whats danny manning's dad up to these days?


Looking at his National Championship ring. Something LGSU would no nothing about.

August 13, 2008, 07:09:51 AM
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I enjoy reading everyones spins but lets stay on topic. Would Beasley of came to KSU without Hill? This is your problem with Ronnie Chalmers right? That it took him to get his son. Still having a hard time seeing difference with Hill and Beasley. You know why.....because there is none. Sad!

The scenarios are only similar in that a recruit came to both schools because of both men.  Chalmers was laughably unqualified to be hired at ku.  Dalonte (when he was hired by Huggins) was more than qualified to be our second assistant (behind Frank at the time).  Ronnie brought his son...no one else.  That was all he brought to the table.  Dalonte has brought in more than his fair share of recruits, and done more than his fair share of coaching.  Just because Beasley came to K-State because of Dalonte does not mean that he is not qualified for the job.  He is.  Ronnie Chalmers was not...that's the difference.

So you agree that K State got Beasley because of Hill. And that Hill was nothing more than an AAU coach before coming to K State. Qualified? Looking at boths resume Ronnie was a High School head coach for 5 years with 2 State Championships. Dalonte agian was.....a AAU coach. Nothing more! Stepping back from the situation a would say Ronnie was a hell of a lot more "qualified" than Hill. Keep telling yourself what you want to here. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

August 13, 2008, 07:11:24 AM
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ku -> National Champs   


ksu -> Not National Champs

LOL. Seriously? Are you high?

Maybe.  Don't mean its not true, though.  Right?  Am I right?  Huh?

August 13, 2008, 07:44:17 AM
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I enjoy reading everyones spins but lets stay on topic. Would Beasley of came to KSU without Hill? This is your problem with Ronnie Chalmers right? That it took him to get his son. Still having a hard time seeing difference with Hill and Beasley. You know why.....because there is none. Sad!

The scenarios are only similar in that a recruit came to both schools because of both men.  Chalmers was laughably unqualified to be hired at ku.  Dalonte (when he was hired by Huggins) was more than qualified to be our second assistant (behind Frank at the time).  Ronnie brought his son...no one else.  That was all he brought to the table.  Dalonte has brought in more than his fair share of recruits, and done more than his fair share of coaching.  Just because Beasley came to K-State because of Dalonte does not mean that he is not qualified for the job.  He is.  Ronnie Chalmers was not...that's the difference.

So you agree that K State got Beasley because of Hill. And that Hill was nothing more than an AAU coach before coming to K State. Qualified? Looking at boths resume Ronnie was a High School head coach for 5 years with 2 State Championships. Dalonte agian was.....a AAU coach. Nothing more! Stepping back from the situation a would say Ronnie was a hell of a lot more "qualified" than Hill. Keep telling yourself what you want to here. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Do you enjoy just making crap up? Yes, at one time he was an AAU coach. However, he was NOT an AAU coach when he came to K-State.

"Hill joined the Kansas State staff on April 5, 2006 after spending three seasons as an assistant coach at his alma mater, Charlotte, under Bobby Lutz.  He helped guide the 49ers to a 61-30 (.760) overall record and three consecutive postseason appearances from 2003-06, including a pair of trips to the NCAA Tournament (2004, 2005).  Hill also helped the program to a share of the 2004 Conference USA regular season title as well as runner-up finishes in C-USA in 2005 and the Atlantic 10 this past season."

Further, if you can't discern the difference between hiring a father to get a kid from hiring a coach to get a kid, you may want to stop and think about it. It has the appearance of buying a player.  While Delonte obviously had a close connection with Beasley, he isn't his father.

Lastly, the players that Hill has recruited outside of Beasley should have you convinced that he can recruit which is half the battle.  Did Ronnie land any other players for ku?




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Hard to tell if BGH really doesn't get it (complete idiot) or if this is just a fishing exhibition.     
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August 13, 2008, 07:56:15 AM
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Hard to tell if BGH really doesn't get it (complete idiot) or if this is just a fishing exhibition.     

The first one.  Did you read the "BGH is a stupid hillbilly" thread? 
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August 13, 2008, 08:01:12 AM
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the only problem i have with the whole ronnie chalmers situation is that numerous squawks have come over here in the past and vehemently defended the fact that chalmers was a valuable member of the staff who contributed in significant ways.  and now that his son is gone, they are all like "dump his ass, he was a idiot, bring in the next dude with a high-profile recruit!".  just admit that it was all a sham, a ploy to get one kid, and nothing more.  that's all you gotta do. 

August 13, 2008, 08:08:12 AM
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August 13, 2008, 08:08:23 AM
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Ronnie was hired AFTER Mario signed.  Jeez.  Think about it.  Mario signes with ku, then Ronnie is sad because their family lives way out in Alaska and won't ever get to see is son play, so Self (classy gentleman) gives him a little job so he can live in KS and attend every game.  Simple and fair.