Official 2009 recruiting thread

[fatty fat fat]

Like the basketball board one, but for football!

so, who is our best prospect that we have a legit shot at?

[LimestoneOutcropping]

This will be a short thread

[Kat Kid]

Thread over.

[chum1]

Why isn't Prince catching more sh*t for spending so much on recruiting with such horrible results?  The other big spenders on that list pull in top ten classes all the time.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Why isn't Prince catching more sh*t for spending so much on recruiting with such horrible results?  The other big spenders on that list pull in top ten classes all the time.

eh, what can you do except what has already been done?  He knows he has 2 years to catch MU...why beat him over the head with it?

[catzacker]

I like [fill in the name of 2* OL that plays basketball and is above 6'5" so automatically he will be a good lineman].

I also think that [fill in the name of a 3* JUCO RB with qualifying issues] will be a good addition. 

[fatty fat fat]

Why isn't Prince catching more sh*t for spending so much on recruiting with such horrible results?  The other big spenders on that list pull in top ten classes all the time.

what else do you want me to say? I've been beating that drum since it became apparent he can't recruit worth a sh1t. (2 weeks after freeman)

[leawoodcat]

Why isn't Prince catching more sh*t for spending so much on recruiting with such horrible results?  The other big spenders on that list pull in top ten classes all the time.

Take a few minutes and think about it and I'll bet you can answer your own question.

[chum1]

I'm a little surprised that there weren't lots of fans all like, "What?  You mean that not only does he suck, but he's spending serious dough in order to suck, too?"

That said, he should be able to bring in another stud QB after Freems.  But that's not 2009 recruiting talk, bros. 

[SuperG]

Matt Schilz!!!! Pro-Style Quarterback!!!! 5 Grey Stars according to Rivals!!!!

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?sport=1&pr_key=84142

[Pete]

Why isn't Prince catching more sh*t for spending so much on recruiting with such horrible results?  The other big spenders on that list pull in top ten classes all the time.

Link to list?

[steve dave]

Matt Schilz!!!! Pro-Style Quarterback!!!! 5 Grey Stars according to Rivals!!!!

Those 5 grey stars represent the amount of times he will be offered a greyshirt before he decommits. 

[purplepig10]

Yup, we should all be pi$$ed with a top 35 recruiting class.  Unacceptable.  We need to be top 5 EVERY year.
Obviously top 5 recruiting classes = winning games!  Like Texas(cough, cough).

[Pete]

Matt Schilz!!!! Pro-Style Quarterback!!!! 5 Grey Stars according to Rivals!!!!

Those 5 grey stars represent the amount of times he will be offered a greyshirt before he decommits. 

LOL, San Diego State decided to offer this 2-Star QB (who also had ZERO other offers) instead of Schilz.  http://sandiegostate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=70486

[steve dave]

Yup, we should all be pi$$ed with a top 35 recruiting class.  Unacceptable.  We need to be top 5 EVERY year.
Obviously top 5 recruiting classes = winning games!  Like Texas(cough, cough).

Top 35 was before half our class went down the toilet.  Anyone that would rank the remainder of our class in the top 60 is retarded.

[cireksu]

Shilz could turn out to be good.  He was hurt last year so no junior evaluation.

[catdude33]

Stars don't matter, diamonds in the rough, etc.

[yosh]

Hilarious thread!  Almost as good as the "wiping" thread in the endzone.

 

[purplepig10]

Yup, we should all be pi$$ed with a top 35 recruiting class.  Unacceptable.  We need to be top 5 EVERY year.
Obviously top 5 recruiting classes = winning games!  Like Texas(cough, cough).

Top 35 was before half our class went down the toilet.  Anyone that would rank the remainder of our class in the top 60 is retarded.

Which half are you referring to?

[Pete]

Shilz could turn out to be good.  He was hurt last year so no junior evaluation.

Lucky for us that NO OTHER DI COACH IN AMERICA was smart enough to see past that and offer the kid.  Atta boy Ron!

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Ron Prince is the Tom Asbury of recruiting.  Discuss.

[Pete]

Ron Prince is the Tom Asbury of recruiting.  Discuss.

He has [allegedly] tried to bang a married Manhattan woman whose husband was associated with the university, just like Tom [allegedly] did. 

[Pett]

Like the basketball board one, but for football!

so, who is our best prospect that we have a legit shot at?

I believe you are asking about prospects who also have a legit shot at qualifying, right?

If that's the case, we don't have any prospects worth discussing.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Ron Prince is the Tom Asbury of recruiting.  Discuss.

He has [allegedly] tried to bang a married Manhattan woman whose husband was associated with the university, just like Tom [allegedly] did. 

Good point.  I also think it is similar in the way it was just so bad, all the time and we started out with high hopes and were always thinking "maybe he knows something" but in reality it is snowballing and getting totally out of control and in 2 years will fall apart.

Second question, is there another black D-I coach who is worse at recruiting high profile black athletes?

[Pete]

Ron Prince is the Tom Asbury of recruiting.  Discuss.

He has [allegedly] tried to bang a married Manhattan woman whose husband was associated with the university, just like Tom [allegedly] did. 

Good point.  I also think it is similar in the way it was just so bad, all the time and we started out with high hopes and were always thinking "maybe he knows something" but in reality it is snowballing and getting totally out of control and in 2 years will fall apart.

Second question, is there another black D-I coach who is worse at recruiting high profile black athletes?

Hmmmmmmm,  well apparently there are 6 of them http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview08/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3521354 , but I can't think of them all

Croom = Miss State
Willingham = Washington
Gill = Suny Buffalo
??

[SuperG]

Ron Prince is the Tom Asbury of recruiting.  Discuss.

He has [allegedly] tried to bang a married Manhattan woman whose husband was associated with the university, just like Tom [allegedly] did. 

Good point.  I also think it is similar in the way it was just so bad, all the time and we started out with high hopes and were always thinking "maybe he knows something" but in reality it is snowballing and getting totally out of control and in 2 years will fall apart.

Second question, is there another black D-I coach who is worse at recruiting high profile black athletes?

Hmmmmmmm,  well apparently there are 6 of them http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview08/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3521354 , but I can't think of them all

Croom = Miss State
Willingham = Washington
Gill = Suny Buffalo
??

Randy Shannon - Miami
Norries Wilson - Columbia

Karl Dorrell - UCLA (Canned at the end of last year?)

[Pete]

Ron Prince is the Tom Asbury of recruiting.  Discuss.

He has [allegedly] tried to bang a married Manhattan woman whose husband was associated with the university, just like Tom [allegedly] did. 

Good point.  I also think it is similar in the way it was just so bad, all the time and we started out with high hopes and were always thinking "maybe he knows something" but in reality it is snowballing and getting totally out of control and in 2 years will fall apart.

Second question, is there another black D-I coach who is worse at recruiting high profile black athletes?

Hmmmmmmm,  well apparently there are 6 of them http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview08/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3521354 , but I can't think of them all

Croom = Miss State
Willingham = Washington
Gill = Suny Buffalo
??

Randy Shannon - Miami
Norries Wilson - Columbia

Karl Dorrell - UCLA (Canned at the end of last year?)

Limestoneoutcropping is full of crap.  I KNOW we are beating Columbia and and Buffalo in recruiting.

[SuperG]

Ron Prince is the Tom Asbury of recruiting.  Discuss.

He has [allegedly] tried to bang a married Manhattan woman whose husband was associated with the university, just like Tom [allegedly] did. 

Good point.  I also think it is similar in the way it was just so bad, all the time and we started out with high hopes and were always thinking "maybe he knows something" but in reality it is snowballing and getting totally out of control and in 2 years will fall apart.

Second question, is there another black D-I coach who is worse at recruiting high profile black athletes?

Hmmmmmmm,  well apparently there are 6 of them http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview08/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3521354 , but I can't think of them all

Croom = Miss State
Willingham = Washington
Gill = Suny Buffalo
??

Randy Shannon - Miami
Norries Wilson - Columbia

Karl Dorrell - UCLA (Canned at the end of last year?)

Limestoneoutcropping is full of crap.  I KNOW we are beating Columbia and and Buffalo in recruiting.

Probably true, but I'm no expert on this years incoming class at either of those institutions.

Unfortunately, Randy Shannons ability to recruit the "South Kansas Region" not only compensates for Wilson's and Gill's shortcomings or restrictions, but it makes Ron Prince look that much worse. The fact that both Brown brothers opted to leave the state of Kansas is SO disappointing and discouraging to fans, that I think it's largely ignored and not talked about.

[sonofdaxjones]

No matter what Ron Prince does people are going to hate Ron Prince . . . Ron Prince goes 10-2 the haters will come up with other irrational reasons to hate Prince.   

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[SuperG]

No matter what Ron Prince does people are going to hate Ron Prince . . . Ron Prince goes 10-2 the haters will come up with other irrational reasons to hate Prince.   

This has been a message from the PPM

You can't argue with that. Haters are a fact of life.

I've been a Ron Prince supporter for the last two years despite some pretty intense pressure from a couple of the more vocal "haters" on this board, who are more in the know than I.

IMO, it's no so much that Prince is a bad coach or a bad recruiter, it's the illusion that he's a bad coach and a bad recruiter. It's when the illusion is reinforced with 7 game losing streaks, staff attrition, missing on the two best recruits from the state in the last 30 years (or at least since Barry Sanders), etc., is when the haters come out and start taking cheap shots. They are just adding imaginary fuel to the illusion of a fire.