BigJ . . .

[sonofdaxjones]

This is the kind of ignorant, uninformed, completely delusional K-State that you will encounter on a regular basis.  They live in an alternate universe, where it's still 2002 and ku football is averaging less than 30,000 people per game.  The fact that this guy couldn't see the beating that BigJ laid on Daxipad in regards to each schools finances says it all.

This continual claim of "victory" . . . it was such a "beatdown" Ben proceeded to go on a 48 hour meltdown/vigil over here.

Sad . . .


A solid effort from Big J that came up just a bit short as per usual.

[KansasForever]

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Dax has been "educated" on finances on several occasions by numerous posters.

I guess he spent too many years getting an "education" in Calvin Hall to know better.

Once again the white elephant in the room . . . the one with kumc being treated as a completely separate enterprise from uk-main campus and related entities by the board of regents, looks up and says, "WTF"??

It's actually kind of sad, the Regents and Legislature determine kuMC's buget and appropriations completely separately from that of ku-lawrence, yet ku-lawrence co-ops kumc into their own financials.

Typical ku.

Oh, research at kumc is managed by a completely separate organization than research at ku-lawerence.  But in typical ku fashion, they co-op the total research dollars into one annual report.

But they'll just keep on declaring virtual victories over there.

Sad . . .

[EliteHawk]

ku's bigger, better, has more money, more tradition, and more success.  Get over it.

[sonofdaxjones]

ku's bigger, better, has more money, more tradition, and more success.  Get over it.

Typical response from Captain Validation.

Sad . . .

His 48 hour vigil on this board is extending into a 72 hour vigil.

But then again this is the same guy who thinks kumc is Top 30.

[GoodForAnother]

more tradition

You are out of your mind.

[EliteHawk]

more tradition

You are out of your mind.

       


The success ku achieved in '08 is better than anything K-State has accomplished in the entire history of its athletic department.  Only one other school has won a National Championship and BCS Bowl in the same year.  K-State has yet to do either one.

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben exemplifies the typical lack of self esteem and sense of self worth of your average ku fan . . . placing nearly everything in his life on ku's performance in sports.

ku has a great tradition of:

Having major sports program in probation. (including the most sanctioned D1 men's basketball program in NCAA history)

Naming facilities after convicted felons and future convicted felons.

Being the only Big 12 school to have major research funding pulled by the sponsor due to poor management and lack of anything tangible being produced.

A growing list of corporate crooks (with several situations having to be cleaned up by K-State alumni).

Having a transplant program at its affiliated medical school shut down due poor management and patient death due to poor management.

Apparently completely incapable of managing its research labs in a proper, environmentally safe fashion in spite of repeated warnings by the EPA.

To many other things to even get into.

[Pete]

ku's bigger, better, has more money, more tradition, and more success.  Get over it.

Actually, at first glimpse she has a point.

You factor in years over years of the advantage enjoyed by ku having a graduate medical school and a law program...and the related access to the alumni from these two graduate programs and you certainly have an overwhelming ku advantage over KSU, correct?  Not going forward when you look at it.  I mean, how does some little "Ag school" manage to stand toe-to-toe with the vast resources of ku?  Amazing?  No, actually predictable.

ku does have a medical school, KSU does not.  Does that mean that ku undergrads stand a better chance at gaining acceptance in that graduate program?  Not in the slightest.  ku does have a law school, KSU does not.  Does that mean that ku undergrads stand a better chance at gaining acceptance in that graduate program?  Not in the slightest. 

The "advantage" in alumni support that ku has enjoyed is quickly deteriorating.  In the post Wefald era, KSU has closed the gap in undergraduate enrollment and exceeded in academic acclaim in the form of scholarships for students.  This will show results in the years to come when students from those years enter their prime earning and retirement years.  Meanwhile, ku is still clinging to the very last of the "golden era" of ku's enrollment and alumni status....an era that will be completely eroded within our lifetime, and certainly be foreign to our children as they grow up.

Those are just the facts.  Rock Chalk while it lasts, you'll have stories to tell your grandkids.

[danconiacopper]

Yep, K-State is definitely well on its way to eclipsing The University. We're just enjoying it while it lasts. We figure we can get another 10-20 good years before the piles of cash from those 124 Rhodes, Marshall, Truman, Goldwater and Udall Scholars from the Wefald era start flowing in to State. When y'all finally eclipsed 20k in enrollment I knew it was the beginning of the end for my beloved Hawks.

I must admit I'm a bit of a bandwagon guy though, so I'm already picturing myself in purple!

[Pete]

Yep, K-State is definitely well on its way to eclipsing The University. We're just enjoying it while it lasts. We figure we can get another 10-20 good years before the piles of cash from those 124 Rhodes, Marshall, Truman, Goldwater and Udall Scholars from the Wefald era start flowing in to State. When y'all finally eclipsed 20k in enrollment I knew it was the beginning of the end for my beloved Hawks.

I must admit I'm a bit of a bandwagon guy though, so I'm already picturing myself in purple!

Seriously though, what part of my post doesn't make perfect sense?  Do you expect to see immediate results from that level of academic success?   Doesn't it logically follow that any success would be years down the road as those former students take positions of prominence?   I mean, isn't that exactly what ku has benefited from for years?

[EliteHawk]

ku's bigger, better, has more money, more tradition, and more success.  Get over it.

Actually, at first glimpse she has a point.

You factor in years over years of the advantage enjoyed by ku having a graduate medical school and a law program...and the related access to the alumni from these two graduate programs and you certainly have an overwhelming ku advantage over KSU, correct?  Not going forward when you look at it.  I mean, how does some little "Ag school" manage to stand toe-to-toe with the vast resources of ku?  Amazing?  No, actually predictable.

ku does have a medical school, KSU does not.  Does that mean that ku undergrads stand a better chance at gaining acceptance in that graduate program?  Not in the slightest.  ku does have a law school, KSU does not.  Does that mean that ku undergrads stand a better chance at gaining acceptance in that graduate program?  Not in the slightest. 

The "advantage" in alumni support that ku has enjoyed is quickly deteriorating.  In the post Wefald era, KSU has closed the gap in undergraduate enrollment and exceeded in academic acclaim in the form of scholarships for students.  This will show results in the years to come when students from those years enter their prime earning and retirement years.  Meanwhile, ku is still clinging to the very last of the "golden era" of ku's enrollment and alumni status....an era that will be completely eroded within our lifetime, and certainly be foreign to our children as they grow up.

Those are just the facts.  Rock Chalk while it lasts, you'll have stories to tell your grandkids.

I acknowledged in my initial post that K-State has been making up a lot of ground.  You guys have a good, respectable university with a ton of great people and some of the best fans in the Big 12.  Manhattan is a nice little town with some great golf and some really great people... it's just when 'Pad gets on his "ku is a complete dump" rants that I start lashing out.  I can only hope that someday ku's football program goes through a stretch like K-State had during the "DoD."  

Facts are though, that ku is bigger as far as endowment, campus, and student populations go.  We have more financial resources.  More tradition (whether you want to admit that or not).  I'm not just throwing out subjective statements to fit a certain agenda such as another poster on this board does.  

Bottom line is that K-State fans are going to support their school and their university while ku fans will do the same.  I don't constantly dwell on K-State's off-the-court issues or K-State's shortcomings like another certain poster on this board does in regards to ku.  In fact, I think K-State is going to be pretty good in both football and basketball next season... I'm not going to dismiss anyone after what ku did last year, going 12-1 and winning the Orange Bowl.  

This is the last post I'll make regarding this subject, and I apologize to the logical K-State fans out there who I may have offended.

[sonofdaxjones]

Chief . . . you can be found on every thread on phogtard land regarding ksu, and god knows you eat up every little thing about k-state from the slantards . . . otherwise you wouldn't have bitten on the outright lie of K-State being under major investigation so hard, and then come spewing it out over here, only to be shown to be completely and utterly WRONG.

How many times have you responded on this thread alone??

Geezus, you are dumb.

[danconiacopper]

Yep, K-State is definitely well on its way to eclipsing The University. We're just enjoying it while it lasts. We figure we can get another 10-20 good years before the piles of cash from those 124 Rhodes, Marshall, Truman, Goldwater and Udall Scholars from the Wefald era start flowing in to State. When y'all finally eclipsed 20k in enrollment I knew it was the beginning of the end for my beloved Hawks.

I must admit I'm a bit of a bandwagon guy though, so I'm already picturing myself in purple!

Seriously though, what part of my post doesn't make perfect sense?  Do you expect to see immediate results from that level of academic success?   Doesn't it logically follow that any success would be years down the road as those former students take positions of prominence?   I mean, isn't that exactly what ku has benefited from for years?

Sure, K-State will benefit from Wefald's tenure...and yes, that benefit in terms of alumni giving is likely still a decade or two away. That said, even at your pinnacle, y'all just don't have enough to eclipse The University in academia or athletics; I'm honestly not sure why you keep trying. You have carved out a nice little niche for yourselves...but trying to play with the big boys just isn't your game. Be proud of what you are and what you have...trying to make State more like Lawrence is just a waste of time. We still enroll several thousand more students each year, are ranked higher academically by every publication in existence, take in more money each year in alumni giving, and on average, earn more after graduation than Kansas State students.

You've had some level of "academic success" but, as always, Big Bro University has enjoyed more.

[Bennettisgod]

Dax - Were you raped by a ku fan as a child?

[sonofdaxjones]

Yep, K-State is definitely well on its way to eclipsing The University. We're just enjoying it while it lasts. We figure we can get another 10-20 good years before the piles of cash from those 124 Rhodes, Marshall, Truman, Goldwater and Udall Scholars from the Wefald era start flowing in to State. When y'all finally eclipsed 20k in enrollment I knew it was the beginning of the end for my beloved Hawks.

I must admit I'm a bit of a bandwagon guy though, so I'm already picturing myself in purple!

Seriously though, what part of my post doesn't make perfect sense?  Do you expect to see immediate results from that level of academic success?   Doesn't it logically follow that any success would be years down the road as those former students take positions of prominence?   I mean, isn't that exactly what ku has benefited from for years?

Sure, K-State will benefit from Wefald's tenure...and yes, that benefit in terms of alumni giving is likely still a decade or two away. That said, even at your pinnacle, y'all just don't have enough to eclipse The University in academia or athletics; I'm honestly not sure why you keep trying. You have carved out a nice little niche for yourselves...but trying to play with the big boys just isn't your game. Be proud of what you are and what you have...trying to make State more like Lawrence is just a waste of time. We still enroll several thousand more students each year, are ranked higher academically by every publication in existence, take in more money each year in alumni giving, and on average, earn more after graduation than Kansas State students.

You've had some level of "academic success" but, as always, Big Bro University has enjoyed more.

That's good.   

Nobody at K-State is getting research funding yanked because they don't accomplish anything.

The EPA isn't about to fine K-State because we don't know how to run our labs. 

Every publication in existence has academic rankings??? . . fascinating. 

Enrolling more students equates to a superior education?? . . . even more fascinating.

[GoodForAnother]

more tradition

You are out of your mind.

       


The success ku achieved in '08 is better than anything K-State has accomplished in the entire history of its athletic department.  Only one other school has won a National Championship and BCS Bowl in the same year.  K-State has yet to do either one.

This is the football board.

All-time, KSU has more:
- Bowl Appearances
- Bowl Wins
- Back to back winning seasons
- Back to back Bowl appearances
- Weeks Ranked
- Season ending ranked
- Season ending top 10 ranked
- 11 win seasons
- 10 win seasons
- 9+ win seasons
- 8+ win seasons
- More winning seasons since 1950, the year the 2 poll system was instituted.
- Since Phog Allen coached ku in the 1920 football season, ku has had 18 coaches. 3 have posted winning records.
- ku is one of just 4 BCS schools not to go to back to back Bowl games.  Vanderbilt, Duke and UConn (which just became D-1 in 2000) are the others.
- KSU has produced more 1st team All-Americans and Heisman candidates.
- Since 1950 ku has finished the season ranked in both polls only 6 times. In 68, 95 and 2008 they finished in the top 10, their only 3. In one of those years (1995) we beat them 41-7.
- ku has one victory over a ranked team since 1996.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Yep, K-State is definitely well on its way to eclipsing The University. We're just enjoying it while it lasts. We figure we can get another 10-20 good years before the piles of cash from those 124 Rhodes, Marshall, Truman, Goldwater and Udall Scholars from the Wefald era start flowing in to State. When y'all finally eclipsed 20k in enrollment I knew it was the beginning of the end for my beloved Hawks.

I must admit I'm a bit of a bandwagon guy though, so I'm already picturing myself in purple!

Seriously though, what part of my post doesn't make perfect sense?  Do you expect to see immediate results from that level of academic success?   Doesn't it logically follow that any success would be years down the road as those former students take positions of prominence?   I mean, isn't that exactly what ku has benefited from for years?

Sure, K-State will benefit from Wefald's tenure...and yes, that benefit in terms of alumni giving is likely still a decade or two away. That said, even at your pinnacle, y'all just don't have enough to eclipse The University in academia or athletics; I'm honestly not sure why you keep trying. You have carved out a nice little niche for yourselves...but trying to play with the big boys just isn't your game. Be proud of what you are and what you have...trying to make State more like Lawrence is just a waste of time. We still enroll several thousand more students each year, are ranked higher academically by every publication in existence, take in more money each year in alumni giving, and on average, earn more after graduation than Kansas State students.

You've had some level of "academic success" but, as always, Big Bro University has enjoyed more.

Seriously, you have to take off the rose colored glasses.  ku's "academia" is really second rate.  Not saying KSU is Harvard but it is certainly as successful as ku.  The 2 graduate programs you cling to as creating some sort of emminence are really very, very low in rankings no matter how many Tom Skerrit commercials you clang out.  KSU's grad programs in arch are nationally acclaimed.

[sonofdaxjones]

They'll be an operational pause as the resident squawk tards regroup, go back to their respective forums, research, send pm's to get their notes together, post "help me out here" topics on slant etc. etc.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

They'll be an operational pause as the resident squawk tards regroup, go back to their respective forums, research, send pm's to get their notes together, post "help me out here" topics on slant etc. etc.

QFT

The server at the slant is running hot right now.

[delusionliveshere]

Daxipad is absolutely getting his a$$ kicked in this thread.  A change of topic to union-comparisons (K-State's sucks, by the way, and the picture of the alleged second ku union is the wrong f***ing building entirely.)

You guys remind me of my brother's old roommate in Shawnee.  She was going on about how beautiful K-State's campus was, and how much better it was than ku's.  My brother is like, "Have you actually been to ku's campus?" 

"Well, no, but I've seen it from I-70."

 

You're not much for reading comprehension are you?? 

Sad . . .


Oh, that picture:

http://www.jayhawks.com/union/images/kansas/BURGEphoto.jpg

Damn . . .

Yes, it is sad how African Amer . . . errr . . . student athletes refuse to keep up their socializing space.  The Kansas Union (white union) is very pretty.   

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Daxipad is absolutely getting his a$$ kicked in this thread.  A change of topic to union-comparisons (K-State's sucks, by the way, and the picture of the alleged second ku union is the wrong f***ing building entirely.)

You guys remind me of my brother's old roommate in Shawnee.  She was going on about how beautiful K-State's campus was, and how much better it was than ku's.  My brother is like, "Have you actually been to ku's campus?" 

"Well, no, but I've seen it from I-70."

 

You're not much for reading comprehension are you?? 

Sad . . .


Oh, that picture:

http://www.jayhawks.com/union/images/kansas/BURGEphoto.jpg

Damn . . .

Yes, it is sad how African Amer . . . errr . . . student athletes refuse to keep up their socializing space.  The Kansas Union (white union) is very pretty.   

Frank would have to be restrained from choking you out if he ever read that racist crap.

ku does exceed ksu in number of blatant racists.  Congrats ku, you win the Helms cup.

[delusionliveshere]

Daxipad is absolutely getting his a$$ kicked in this thread.  A change of topic to union-comparisons (K-State's sucks, by the way, and the picture of the alleged second ku union is the wrong f***ing building entirely.)

You guys remind me of my brother's old roommate in Shawnee.  She was going on about how beautiful K-State's campus was, and how much better it was than ku's.  My brother is like, "Have you actually been to ku's campus?" 

"Well, no, but I've seen it from I-70."

 

You're not much for reading comprehension are you?? 

Sad . . .


Oh, that picture:

http://www.jayhawks.com/union/images/kansas/BURGEphoto.jpg

Damn . . .

Yes, it is sad how African Amer . . . errr . . . student athletes refuse to keep up their socializing space.  The Kansas Union (white union) is very pretty.   

Frank would have to be restrained from choking you out if he ever read that racist crap.

ku does exceed ksu in number of blatant racists.  Congrats ku, you win the Helms cup.

I was simply trying to fit in on this board.  Shall I provide links?

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Daxipad is absolutely getting his a$$ kicked in this thread.  A change of topic to union-comparisons (K-State's sucks, by the way, and the picture of the alleged second ku union is the wrong f***ing building entirely.)

You guys remind me of my brother's old roommate in Shawnee.  She was going on about how beautiful K-State's campus was, and how much better it was than ku's.  My brother is like, "Have you actually been to ku's campus?" 

"Well, no, but I've seen it from I-70."

 

You're not much for reading comprehension are you?? 

Sad . . .


Oh, that picture:

http://www.jayhawks.com/union/images/kansas/BURGEphoto.jpg

Damn . . .

Yes, it is sad how African Amer . . . errr . . . student athletes refuse to keep up their socializing space.  The Kansas Union (white union) is very pretty.   

Frank would have to be restrained from choking you out if he ever read that racist crap.

ku does exceed ksu in number of blatant racists.  Congrats ku, you win the Helms cup.

I was simply trying to fit in on this board.  Shall I provide links?

I don't want any more of your typical ku fans are racist crap.  go to an auburn or klan board with that crap.

[steve dave]

GD ku racist SOBs.  They fit in well with their slave owning basketball coach    Typical.

[FHSU92]

ku's bigger, better, has more money, more tradition, and more success.  Get over it.

"no, it's not" -- anonymous ku alum from 1996

[DrJamesANaismith]

Fun thread to re-read. 

[sonofdaxjones]

The Committee to unearth Adolph Rupp approved this thread.