BigJ . . .

[danconiacopper]

Lol @ KState being the poorest school in the Big XII.

Maybe you have eclipsed Oklahoma State's endowment now....congratulations. Time to put Iowa State and their massive coffers in your sights!

What little money you do have, you spend on recruiting...you now, having to hire private planes and such so recruits don't have to endure a 2 hour car ride into Manhattan and such. Only 4 schools spent more money on recruiting...yet about 70 others were still able to outperform KSU on the field, according to the Director's Cup standings.

So, even when y'all have money, you are incredibly inefficient.

But hey, at least you have a huge hole in the ground surrounded by pavement, an 80's-era  concrete, windowless "basketball arena", and soon a two-story, doublewide glass hallway to trumpet your MANY achievements.

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Interesting . . . so academic endowments have an effect on sports recruiting.

This is fascinating stuff. 

The Argyle club is hitting on all 8 today.

Oh, you can't hire private planes to fly in recruits (albeit K-State doesn't to have to hire planes, they have their own) . . . been that way for several years now.

August 2008 . . . join us.

[delusionliveshere]

In the stadium, the stadium is a student slum at Georgia??   

No.  Very nice stadium.    Very bad access because of all the "slums" that you must wade through to get to the game. 

Broad Street 

[sonofdaxjones]

In the stadium, the stadium is a student slum at Georgia??   

No.  Very nice stadium.    Very bad access because of all the "slums" that you must wade through to get to the game. 

Broad Street 

Okay. 

Clemson has a cool setting as well . . . no ku of course, but very cool. 

[EliteHawk]

In the stadium, the stadium is a student slum at Georgia??   

No.  Very nice stadium.    Very bad access because of all the "slums" that you must wade through to get to the game. 

Broad Street 

Okay. 

Clemson has a cool setting as well . . . no ku of course, but very cool. 

Notice how K-State is always left out of the equation... it's always comparisons to Clemson, Georgia, Washington, BYU, you know, schools that have actually done something on a national level and have nice stadiums.  K-State fans are always looking for a surrogate school to cling to.

[danconiacopper]

My apologies Dax...

You have me confused with someone who is actually trying to make an argument instead of merely offering up tidbit after tidbit of information that demonstrates how poor KSU is.

Endowment has nothing to do with athletics directly...just another way of pointing out that KState is the poorest school in the Big XII. Seriously though, does K-State have the 11th or 12th largest endowment in the Big XII?

I wasn't aware that you can't use the private planes anymore...wow, that is even more disturbing. So if not for operating and maintenance of aircraft, where the hell is all that recruiting money going? Any idea? Huge phone bills? Maybe your new AD could get you on some kind of "unlimited plan" for a couple hundred thousand a year. All kidding aside, what ARE you all spending that money on? Aren't y'all livid that you're spending so much money recruiting and have yet to achieve anything athletically?

[sonofdaxjones]

In the stadium, the stadium is a student slum at Georgia??   

No.  Very nice stadium.    Very bad access because of all the "slums" that you must wade through to get to the game. 

Broad Street 

Okay. 

Clemson has a cool setting as well . . . no ku of course, but very cool. 

Notice how K-State is always left out of the equation... it's always comparisons to Clemson, Georgia, Washington, BYU, you know, schools that have actually done something on a national level and have nice stadiums.  K-State fans are always looking for a surrogate school to cling to since your own school is such a dump.

True Ben . . . Clemson won a national Title in Football 26 years ago. (They promptly got put on probation, that sounds familiar)

But I was speaking only of their stadium.

Notice how angry you always get??

[sonofdaxjones]

My apologies Dax...

You have me confused with someone who is actually trying to make an argument instead of merely offering up tidbit after tidbit of information that demonstrates how poor KSU is.

Endowment has nothing to do with athletics directly...just another way of pointing out that KState is the poorest school in the Big XII. Seriously though, does K-State have the 11th or 12th largest endowment in the Big XII?

I wasn't aware that you can't use the private planes anymore...wow, that is even more disturbing. So if not for operating and maintenance of aircraft, where the hell is all that recruiting money going? Any idea? Huge phone bills? Maybe your new AD could get you on some kind of "unlimited plan" for a couple hundred thousand a year. All kidding aside, what ARE you all spending that money on? Aren't y'all livid that you're spending so much money recruiting and have yet to achieve anything athletically?

I don't know Flaming Gay Ewe . . . how long has K-State been spending that kind of money??

[danconiacopper]

I'm really not sure...but for argument's sake, let's pretend it was just last year. If I look at the state of your MBB and FB programs (the recipients of the VAST majority of these funds) I don't see anything that would leave me to believe KSU made a massive investment in recruiting last year.

In fact, both major programs seem to have entrenched themselves in this expensive recruiting cycle. The football program has set itself up to require a huge influx of JCs every year and Prince is flying out to California and Florida to sign kids that show up on campus 60% of the time. Men's b-ball is setting their sights on one-and-dones from all over the country, even with a national powerhouse in their backyard.

Like I said, let's say that KSU's exorbitant recruting expenditures were limited to last year. Which players/teams can you point to and say, "Here is what we got for that and here is why it was money well spent?"

Oh, you never answered my Endowment question. Is K-State 11th or 12th in the Big XII now?

[sonofdaxjones]

I think it's 10th or 11th.

I don't know ewe . . . given the fact that basketball has had its two best seasons in nearly 2 decades, is looking to land a very good class coming up I'd say it's paying off.   Also, we won't know anything about football until the season starts. 

It's good that K-State can spend that kind of money on recruiting and still finish $8-10 million in the black.

[danconiacopper]

I looked it up...according to the most recent data (published July 2008), Kansas State ranks #12 out of 12 in the Big XII in terms of endowment. These figures were current as of the end of FY 2007.

So, like I said. Poorest in the Big XII. 

[cas]

Dudes, we should all go out and buy lotto tix. For real.

[steve dave]

Dudes, we should all go out and buy lotto tix. For real.

Don't think the PBall is very high right now based on billboard off interstate (billboard has been spot on previously as far as I know).  I bought a PBall ticket one time and immediately felt like a retard.  This was prolly because I didn't win though.  I bet if I would have won I wouldn't have felt like such a dumbass. 

[steve dave]

Another thing:  I bet a good gift to give KSU for the holidays would be scratch tickets in their stocking.  That's really the best thing to get imo.  I mean, you can potentially win loads of cash and they don't cost much.  Would be better if you knew ahead of time which ones were the winners though so you could keep those for youself.  KSU would still think it was still getting a chance at a Tacoma or $10k or something and it's the thought that counts anyway so I'm told. 

[danconiacopper]

Actually, it appears KState's endowment is the 53rd largest of the 55 BCS schools, with only UConn and Georgia Tech being more destitute.

Hey look at it this way guys....there is PLENTY of room for improvement.

[steve dave]

Actually, it appears KState's endowment is the 53rd largest of the 55 BCS schools, with only UConn and Georgia Tech being more destitute.

Hey look at it this way guys....there is PLENTY of room for improvement.

How do UConn and GT not have loads of money!?  Weird.

[catzacker]

endowment smack?

[steve dave]

endowment smack?

Pretty brutal.  Hurts the soul, you know?

[cas]

Connecticut is the most wealthy state per capita. Really weird that UCONN is so low.

[danconiacopper]

Well, if I had to guess I would venture that it' one of two things...

1) The school do not churn out enough earners
2) The school does not inspire loyaly

I think it's a combination of the two in Manhattan. Those 'Cats who are intelligent enough to earn some scratch are also intelligent enough to know that giving money to K-State is not a good investment. Maybe I'm wrong though...do you all have any ideas about why K-State's endowment is so tiny compared to schools like ku and Mizzou?

[steve dave]

1) The school do not churn out enough earners

I don't think that is correct.  UConn has tons of money in it's ranks. 

[danconiacopper]

endowment smack?

Well, since the thread was started as an attack on ku's financial resources I thought it might be relevant to bring some facts about each University's assets into play.

I guess I could have taken any number of angles, since ku is more liquid, has a higher net worth, larger endowment, more money in the AD, etc.

It's truly comical how you all are acting as if ku's $800+ MILLION ENDOWMENT ADVANTAGE is completely meaningless.

[catzacker]

endowment smack?

Well, since the thread was started as an attack on ku's financial resources I thought it might be relevant to bring some facts about each University's assets into play.

I guess I could have taken any number of angles, since ku is more liquid, has a higher net worth, larger endowment, more money in the AD, etc.

It's truly comical how you all are acting as if ku's $800+ MILLION ENDOWMENT ADVANTAGE is completely meaningless.

this thread was really to bait any and all ku fans.  that's really what it was. 

[danconiacopper]

Well good job I guess.

Look for my upcoming thread on Kansas' Vet School:

ME: "So, let's compare Vet Schools purps!"

KSUFAN1: "Kansas doesn't even HAVE a vet school loser!"

ME: "Ahh crap, got you sucker...you took the bait!"

Nice tactic. Take something negative about your school then get rivals to lay out all the facts and prove it.

[fatty fat fat]

Well good job I guess.

Look for my upcoming thread on Kansas' Vet School:

ME: "So, let's compare Vet Schools purps!"

KSUFAN1: "Kansas doesn't even HAVE a vet school loser!"

ME: "Ahh crap, got you sucker...you took the bait!"

Nice tactic. Take something negative about your school then get rivals to lay out all the facts and prove it.

ku doesn't even have a vet school, you dumbf*ck.

[QuinnMac]

 

It's really not funny anymore, they are pathetic

[sonofdaxjones]

As of 3/31/08 KSU's pooled Endowment Value was $331 million down from $346 million on 1/1/08.  As of 7/1/07 KSU's Endowment Assets were $453 million. 

Now, when did anyone ever say that ku's endowment was of "no value" . . . but again, in terms of athletics, it doesn't mean anything, unless somebody gave money to the endowment for athletics, or ku (or many other schools) decide to forget that they have a $258 million dollar maintenance backlog and use unrestricted giving for athletics.   

But I look at the rate of annual giving, and K-State is averaging $90 million a year in annual giving over the last 2 years, and $79 million over the last 6 years.

Now who is Ewe a sock of??

[KansasForever]

Daxipad is absolutely getting his a$$ kicked in this thread.  A change of topic to union-comparisons (K-State's sucks, by the way, and the picture of the alleged second ku union is the wrong f***ing building entirely.)

You guys remind me of my brother's old roommate in Shawnee.  She was going on about how beautiful K-State's campus was, and how much better it was than ku's.  My brother is like, "Have you actually been to ku's campus?" 

"Well, no, but I've seen it from I-70."

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Daxipad is absolutely getting his a$$ kicked in this thread.  A change of topic to union-comparisons (K-State's sucks, by the way, and the picture of the alleged second ku union is the wrong f***ing building entirely.)

You guys remind me of my brother's old roommate in Shawnee.  She was going on about how beautiful K-State's campus was, and how much better it was than ku's.  My brother is like, "Have you actually been to ku's campus?" 

"Well, no, but I've seen it from I-70."

 

You're not much for reading comprehension are you?? 

Sad . . .


Oh, that picture:

http://www.jayhawks.com/union/images/kansas/BURGEphoto.jpg

Damn . . .

[GoodForAnother]

The Cat's Den is amazing, especially when you can get free drinks/hot dogs/expired Frappauchinos like I can.

ku's union is very weird looking.  Ramshackle is really the best word.  Looks like it is going to fall down.  Our Union isn't that great either, FWIW.  It's wayyyyyy more active than ku's union and probably makes more money.