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January 22, 2008, 03:59:20 PM
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January 22, 2008, 04:30:14 PM
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    I'm with Coco.
Lord knows Baltimore would be the first place the Ozone would pick to start deteriorating.

January 22, 2008, 04:36:14 PM
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Remember, in summer its "global warming".  In winter its "climate change".  Useful idiots who stand to be manipulated by those profitting from the emerging "green" market.

January 22, 2008, 04:40:00 PM
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    I'm with Coco.
In all honesty, I don't care about global warming. Sure, I want to be clean and stuff. My main concern is not depending on foreign fuels.

January 22, 2008, 05:05:01 PM
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In all honesty, I don't care about global warming. Sure, I want to be clean and stuff. My main concern is not depending on foreign fuels.

bingo

January 22, 2008, 05:06:51 PM
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I stopped worrying about global warming when it snowed on me in the Yukon in July.  :blank:
Ladies & gentlemen, I present: The Problem

January 22, 2008, 06:52:05 PM
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you can worry about it/care as you like.  but thinking it doesn't exist means you're stupid, be it willfully or naturally.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

January 22, 2008, 07:02:05 PM
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The global climate changes over time.  To believe that SUVs, coal-fired power plants, CAFE, single-family detached housing, or other human activity has a significant impact on these global climate trends is both the height of arrogance and the height of stupidity.
Ladies & gentlemen, I present: The Problem

January 22, 2008, 07:07:17 PM
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Human activity is the only good explanation for the change.  Personally, I don't mind if half the species that exist today are extinct not long after I die.  And I'm cool with all of the other stuff, too.

January 22, 2008, 07:10:26 PM
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I'm sure this is good for our health.


January 22, 2008, 07:54:42 PM
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I'm sure this is good for our health.



It isn't, but has nothing to do with Global Warming.

January 22, 2008, 08:47:09 PM
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To debate global warming is irrelevant really.   If we really need a reason to NOT live cleaner and continue foreign fuel dependancy, then we're &@#%ed already.

I personally believe Gore's only interest in global warming is to stuff some extra coin in his pocket.  Inconveniant truth was fun fiction.  Almost as enjoyable as Super Size Me.
The comments posted above do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of FBWillie

January 22, 2008, 09:06:12 PM
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Global warming is occurring.

It happens completely in natural cycles.

Pollution is a separate issue as is dependence on oil and foreign energy sources.

People who believe that global warming is man made,  or that mankind is contributing significantly to the current warming, have no basis NOR PROOF to support such a claim.




January 22, 2008, 09:09:41 PM
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What scientific revolution?  You guys are scary.

January 22, 2008, 09:12:42 PM
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Global warming is occurring.

It happens completely in natural cycles.

Pollution is a separate issue as is dependence on oil and foreign energy sources.

People who believe that global warming is man made,  or that mankind is contributing significantly to the current warming, have no basis NOR PROOF to support such a claim.





Sometimes you really do know what you are talking about.

January 22, 2008, 10:27:18 PM
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I for one cannot understand how you environmentalists believe that somehow burning 146,000,000,000 gallons of gasoline per year could possibly have any effect on the climate?  Haven't you ever heard of Sunspots, or the Global Cooling Crisis of the 70s?  These are proof that global warming is nonsense.  I stopped believing in global warming when the ice caps melted.

January 22, 2008, 10:36:11 PM
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I for one cannot understand how you environmentalists believe that somehow burning 146,000,000,000 gallons of gasoline per year could possibly have any effect on the climate?  Haven't you ever heard of Sunspots, or the Global Cooling Crisis of the 70s?  These are proof that global warming is nonsense.  I stopped believing in global warming when the ice caps melted.

Many people don't disagree that the globe is warming.  They disagree with the cause of it.  Don't misinterpret the arguments.

January 22, 2008, 10:39:48 PM
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Water vapor is much more effective as a greenhouse gas than is CO2.

January 23, 2008, 01:01:05 AM
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ksu; proving once again that we have the lowest bbiq fans on the internet.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

January 23, 2008, 05:36:59 AM
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ksu; proving once again that we have the lowest bbiq fans on the internet.

This thread certainly adds some perspective to much of the widespread cognitive ineptitude displayed in the sports forums.  And also to the heated and timely creationism/evolution debate in Kansas.

January 23, 2008, 07:29:59 AM
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It could also be said...

People who believe that global warming is not man made,  or that mankind is not contributing significantly to the current warming, have no basis NOR PROOF to support such a claim.

January 23, 2008, 07:34:21 AM
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The global climate changes over time.  To believe that SUVs, coal-fired power plants, CAFE, single-family detached housing, or other human activity has a significant impact on these global climate trends is both the height of arrogance and the height of stupidity.

Would it be arrogant to think that human activity could result in "acid rain"?  Would it be arrogant to think that human activity could create arid landscapes?  Would it be arrogant to think we could send man to the moon? 

Just want to know what the limits there are on us modest human beings.

January 23, 2008, 08:32:47 AM
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This thread made me put Inconvenient(?) truth on my que up next. 


Did you know that in past periods of recorded history when the earth has had warm periods have also been some of the highest points of human achievement and civilization?

Height of the Roman Empire and The Rennaisance.

January 23, 2008, 10:36:54 AM
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It could also be said...

People who believe that global warming is not man made,  or that mankind is not contributing significantly to the current warming, have no basis NOR PROOF to support such a claim.

True, but then again science isn't about saying "Well we believe it to be true even though we have no proof."

As one British scientist put it in his paper "We can find no reason for the current situation, so it must be man made."   Couldn't find any reason within the parameters of the research, so just said "Well, I can't seem to figure it out so I'll blame man."

Sounds like a Hockey Stick to me.


January 23, 2008, 10:40:23 AM
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The global climate changes over time.  To believe that SUVs, coal-fired power plants, CAFE, single-family detached housing, or other human activity has a significant impact on these global climate trends is both the height of arrogance and the height of stupidity.

Would it be arrogant to think that human activity could result in "acid rain"?  Would it be arrogant to think that human activity could create arid landscapes?  Would it be arrogant to think we could send man to the moon? 

Just want to know what the limits there are on us modest human beings.

Since when is pollution and global climate the same thing?

January 23, 2008, 10:54:33 AM
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It could also be said...

People who believe that global warming is not man made,  or that mankind is not contributing significantly to the current warming, have no basis NOR PROOF to support such a claim.

True, but then again science isn't about saying "Well we believe it to be true even though we have no proof."

As one British scientist put it in his paper "We can find no reason for the current situation, so it must be man made."   Couldn't find any reason within the parameters of the research, so just said "Well, I can't seem to figure it out so I'll blame man."

Sounds like a Hockey Stick to me.



This is entirely untrue.  We KNOW what's causing it, and it's Carbon Dioxide.  We can measure it.  Scientists can go to the Antarctic and drill ice cores and come to scientific conclusions about what is causing the current warming trend.  It's not just supposition and guess work.  NOAA and the National Center for Atmospheric Research know why it is happening.  The truth is that our beloved president and his cronies are working very hard to confuse the American public about the issue.  They take climate reports, and vet them for anything that could be construed as pointing a finger at fossil fuels.  The anti-global warming propaganda is funded by $Billion companies.

January 23, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
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It could also be said...

People who believe that global warming is not man made,  or that mankind is not contributing significantly to the current warming, have no basis NOR PROOF to support such a claim.

True, but then again science isn't about saying "Well we believe it to be true even though we have no proof."

As one British scientist put it in his paper "We can find no reason for the current situation, so it must be man made."   Couldn't find any reason within the parameters of the research, so just said "Well, I can't seem to figure it out so I'll blame man."

Sounds like a Hockey Stick to me.



This is entirely untrue.  We KNOW what's causing it, and it's Carbon Dioxide.  We can measure it.  Scientists can go to the Antarctic and drill ice cores and come to scientific conclusions about what is causing the current warming trend.  It's not just supposition and guess work.  NOAA and the National Center for Atmospheric Research know why it is happening.  The truth is that our beloved president and his cronies are working very hard to confuse the American public about the issue.  They take climate reports, and vet them for anything that could be construed as pointing a finger at fossil fuels.  The anti-global warming propaganda is funded by $Billion companies.

Let me help you here, since you seem intent on repeating Al Gore talking points.

CO2 is 3% of all the GHG by volume in the atmosphere.

CO2 is .001% of ALL gases by volume in the atmosphere.

The oceans are estimated to cycle some 1500 gigatons of CO2 in a year as part of the natural cycle.  Land areas cycle some 500 gigatons of CO2 per year in natural sinks.

Mankind produces on average per year.. some 12 Gigatons of CO2  PER YEAR.

That's less than 1% of all the cycled CO2 in the atmosphere.

So how does so little CO2 account for such unprecedented warming and why do people insist on blaming Global Warming on Bush when in the 1930's it was just as warm as it is right now?

January 23, 2008, 11:18:30 AM
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It's not the fact the earth is warming, it's the speed over the last several decades.

January 23, 2008, 11:21:13 AM
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It's not the fact the earth is warming, it's the speed over the last several decades.

Speed compared to what?

January 23, 2008, 11:29:19 AM
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It's not the fact the earth is warming, it's the speed over the last several decades.

Speed compared to what?

avg temp increase over time.  Apparently or I guess the "say" they can tell this over thousands of years.