Are we capable of "Blowing out" opponents?

[cireksu]

I think that our offense and schemes are capable of beating people but are we geared for the big blowouts?  I mean, it seems that unless a reciever breaks a tackle or something our longest gains are 15-20 yarders.  Are we just not geared for the 60-0 game?

Honest question.

[michigancat]

Special teams would lead to blowouts.

What's your definition of a blowout, tard?

[WildCatzPhreak]

I'm gonna say no until I see a deep pass completed or a long run for a TD.

We're capable of both but I haven't seen either yet this year.

[cireksu]

Special teams would lead to blowouts.

What's your definition of a blowout, tard?

Are we just not geared for the 60-0 game?

Honest question.
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[KSU4ME]

I don't think this offense is designed for quick scores and big plays.  It sure looks to be more oriented on ball control.

Our offense has been pretty darn efficient, completing over 63% of passes and our starting RB is getting 5.7 YPC.  

It's just not an offense designed to light up the scoreboard.

[cireksu]

I guess I mean is this team geared for the home run?  Snyder's teams, even his power running teams of 00,01,02, had the home run in the arsenal.  I just haven't seen this team hit many  home runs.  Texas has really been the only game that I remember.

[ksu_FAN]

We know we have some athletes that can break it (Murphy, Nelson, Patton, Johnson) and we have the ability to score quick with special teams, so we should be able to put up points quick.  However, I'm not sure we have enough to spot 35 in a quarter like we did against the Tigers back in the day.

[cireksu]

I don't think this offense is designed for quick scores and big plays.  It sure looks to be more oriented on ball control.

Our offense has been pretty darn efficient, completing over 63% of passes and our starting RB is getting 5.7 YPC.  

It's just not an offense designed to light up the scoreboard.

Yeah, that's what I am starting to think, every time we play a crap team I keep thinking I'll read the box score and see something like Freeman 15-23, 298 4 1.  But alas, i don't htink I'll ever see it.

We know we have some athletes that can break it (Murphy, Nelson, Patton, Johnson) and we have the ability to score quick with special teams, so we should be able to put up points quick.  However, I'm not sure we have enough to spot 35 in a quarter like we did against the Tigers back in the day.

QFT, QFT.

[michigancat]

We won 45-0 last year with Dylan Meier at QB.

[WildCatzPhreak]

We won 45-0 last year with Dylan Meier at QB.

Good point!

..But I think Missouri State is better than Florida Atlantic.  By far.

[ksu_FAN]

We won 45-0 last year with Dylan Meier at QB.

Good point.  But to me a true blowout is when you have at least a 21 point quarter and 30+ by halftime.  Man, people complained about the competition in those, but they were pretty fun to watch.  Especially when we were pasting Big 12 teams like the aformentioned MU game and several against ku, ISU, etc over the years.  Those never got old to me.

[FBWillie]

I don't think this offense is designed for quick scores and big plays.  It sure looks to be more oriented on ball control.

Our offense has been pretty darn efficient, completing over 63% of passes and our starting RB is getting 5.7 YPC. 

It's just not an offense designed to light up the scoreboard.

Maybe we do have that type of offense, but the long TD pass plays are being reserved for bigger games.

[Legore]

I think that our offense and schemes are capable of beating people but are we geared for the big blowouts?  I mean, it seems that unless a reciever breaks a tackle or something our longest gains are 15-20 yarders.  Are we just not geared for the 60-0 game?

Honest question.

If we can score 45 on Texas then yes we can blow people out.  We pretty much blew out San Jose beating them by 20.  If Josh doesn't make those two bad decisions on the INT it would have certainly been a blowout with a score up in the 40's.  I'll be very disapointed if we don't score 40 on Missouri State.  

[michigancat]

Once again, we have retarded fans that think the offense and defense should be humming like the 1998-2000, 2002-2003 teams (all national title caliber).

This is just a stupid question to ask.

[KSU4ME]

We know we have some athletes that can break it (Murphy, Nelson, Patton, Johnson) and we have the ability to score quick with special teams, so we should be able to put up points quick.  However, I'm not sure we have enough to spot 35 in a quarter like we did against the Tigers back in the day.

Having players that can do it doesn't mean we're regularly calling plays with the intent to get big chunks of yards.

We're at 5.8 yards per attempt and 9.5 per completion.

In Hudson's offense we were around 9 per attempt (with completion % MUCH lower) and 19 per completion.

You could argue that McDonald/Lockett was much more explosive than Nelson/Murphy, but you and I both know we're not stretching the field with the passing game nearly as often, and that's why our passing game is more efficient than it is productive.

We just don't go for it.  Different philosophy.  Asking a guy to break a 7 yard pass for a 50 yard TD is a lot different than asking him to break a 20 yard pass for a 50 yard TD.

[cireksu]

Once again, we have retarded fans that think the offense and defense should be humming like the 1998-2000, 2002-2003 teams (all national title caliber).

This is just a stupid question to ask.

Didn't we beat NM or NMST 64-0 or something in 01?

I agree with fan the 45-0 game should have been 60+ to 0 they were terrible.

[mjrod]

Nebraska beat us last year by 18 points and they called that a "woodshed beating."

I would suspect that by that standard, it was just damn ugly in Lincoln in 2003.

San Jose State was definitely an ass, leg, arm and back full of red welts.

[cireksu]

San Jose State was definitely an ass, leg, arm and back full of red welts.

LOL, yes.

[michigancat]

Once again, we have retarded fans that think the offense and defense should be humming like the 1998-2000, 2002-2003 teams (all national title caliber).

This is just a stupid question to ask.

Didn't we beat NM or NMST 64-0 or something in 01?

Yeah.  What's more impressive?  64 vs. NMSU or 45 vs. top 5 Texas?

I agree with fan the 45-0 game should have been 60+ to 0 they were terrible.

JFC.  45-0 doesn't count as a blowout?

You're only looking dumber.

[cireksu]

Did I say that, you are just reading things I type the way you want to now.  Stalker.

just agreeing with fan that, the game should have been of the 60+ variety that we are talking about that even the 01 team could get.  I do think that if we played someone that bad this year it would be worse.

[cireksu]

back to the origional topic, is this team/scheme geared to pasting teams that we should and have the ability to paste or do will we always keep games relatively close because we are a ball control offense?

[michigancat]

back to the origional topic, is this team/scheme geared to pasting teams that we should and have the ability to paste or do will we always keep games relatively close because we are a ball control offense?

45-0 is not close.  Not even relatively.

So yeah, the offense can blow people out.

[Skycat]

The offense was efficient enough for a true blowout last week vs SJSU (5 TD+ win).  We would have scored more if not for the defense's inability to get SJSU's offense off the field.  We just didn't get all that many possesions, especially in the first half.

[cireksu]

The offense was efficient enough for a true blowout last week vs SJSU (5 TD+ win).  We would have scored more if not for the defense's inability to get SJSU's offense off the field.  We just didn't get all that many possesions, especially in the first half.

good answer.  I didn't catch any of the game.

[MOKSUAZ]

plus, i don't think they come even close to opening the playbook yet.  they basically ran the same script of plays against Auburn as last years Tejas game, without the deep ball.  i'm sure once the young guys get going and our o-line is a little more experienced i think we'll be seeing more vertical passes, etc. (hopefully by the UT game). 

[RonLongshaft]

plus, i don't think they come even close to opening the playbook yet.  they basically ran the same script of plays against Auburn as last years Tejas game, without the deep ball.  i'm sure once the young guys get going and our o-line is a little more experienced i think we'll be seeing more vertical passes, etc. (hopefully by the UT game). 

you beat me too it. i dont think we have seen a whole lot this year. i think JF and RP are maybe holding back a bit. i think we even held back some against auburn due to there defense and us trying to control the game by taking them out of it. i think come big12 play we open up a little more when the games will be closer and they mean a little more, and there are no defenses comparable to auburns.

[stormnut]

plus, i don't think they come even close to opening the playbook yet.  they basically ran the same script of plays against Auburn as last years Tejas game, without the deep ball.  i'm sure once the young guys get going and our o-line is a little more experienced i think we'll be seeing more vertical passes, etc. (hopefully by the UT game). 

you beat me too it. i dont think we have seen a whole lot this year. i think JF and RP are maybe holding back a bit. i think we even held back some against auburn due to there defense and us trying to control the game by taking them out of it. i think come big12 play we open up a little more when the games will be closer and they mean a little more, and there are no defenses comparable to auburns.

The goal of this team is to win the north this year and the Big 12 title. OC wins don't count so hell yes they are holding back. Texas is going to get drilled again and this time they will not make a come back.

[catzacker]

Once again, we have retarded fans that think the offense and defense should be humming like the 1998-2000, 2002-2003 teams (all national title caliber).

This is just a stupid question to ask.

What's the standard then? What caliber should KSU's offense and defense be at?

[michigancat]

Once again, we have retarded fans that think the offense and defense should be humming like the 1998-2000, 2002-2003 teams (all national title caliber).

This is just a stupid question to ask.

What's the standard then? What caliber should KSU's offense and defense be at?

B12N champion caliber by next year or the year after that.

It's still a work in progress, so right now I'm just happy with a bowl.

[KSU4ME]

The offense was efficient enough for a true blowout last week vs SJSU (5 TD+ win).  We would have scored more if not for the defense's inability to get SJSU's offense off the field.  We just didn't get all that many possesions, especially in the first half.

We didn't force a 3 and out until the 4th quarter.

 

Get it together Tibs!