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September 02, 2007, 09:05:58 PM
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Good points by all, and I realize I'm being an over-optimistic homer.  I was just awed by the difference in the offense last night.  I cannot express to you how much better Warriner is as o-coordinator.  It's a huge improvement. 

I thought Reesing looked great as well.  I know Central Michigan isn't the best secondary we will see this year, but I don't think they're any worse than a team like Iowa State or Baylor.  With Reesing at QB, ku has a guy who can run as well as throw at a high level.  He's not an NFL prototypical QB like Josh Freeman, but he's a guy that will be a great college QB someday.   ku has some weapons and some athletes this year. 

I know playing in Manhattan will make a difference, but this team actually played well at Nebraska last season and had a blowout win against ISU.  If K-State's o-line doesn't improve in a hurry, ku might have another turnoverfest with Josh Freeman. 



You do realize that Auburn, one of the best and fastest defenses in the nation, didn't sack Freeman until the end of the game when they knew KSU had to pass.  His only turnover up to that point was a hail mary INT to end the 1st half.

September 02, 2007, 09:34:20 PM
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You do realize that Auburn, one of the best and fastest defenses in the nation, didn't sack Freeman until the end of the game when they knew KSU had to pass.  His only turnover up to that point was a hail mary INT to end the 1st half.

Look at who you are talking to.  You can't expect BMW to understand such concepts.  As proven on multiple occasions, reality does not register with this guy. 

September 02, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
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Immediate history would suggest that ku is the better team (39-20) and I won a nice little chunk of change from 'stunner last year when ku took you guys to the woodshed. 

This year won't be much different.  ku is a completely different football program at this point and time.  Last year was just a preview of things to come.  This team can finish games in the 4th quarter.

So if ku had been playing at Auburn last night, they would have won? 

 :loly:


I still want my cooler, bitches!

September 03, 2007, 11:10:17 AM
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@ Auburn (Loss, but I mean, we already thought we were going to lose)
San Diego State (Easy win)
Missouri State (Easy win)
@ Texas (Still predict a loss, but I believe we have a great shot at beating them again.  Still, they have a blackout vs us :ohno:)
Kansas (Before I thought it was 50/50 but we eventually pull it out, but I now believe we will win easily)
Colorado (Still predict easy win)
@ Oklahoma State (First I predicted loss, but now I will say this is a toss up.  We moved the ball better on a better defense)
Baylor (Easy win.  REVENGE :curse:)
@ Iowa State (Easy win, before I thought it was a toss-up)
@ Nebraska (Loss, but like vs. Texas we have a shot)
Missouri (I thought we would likely lose, but this is a toss-up IMO)
@ Fresno State (Easy win)

I think we go 8-4, with losses to Auburn, Texas, OSU, and Nebraska.

No way do we get an easy win versus San Diego State in our next game.  As a matter of fact I would bet the house, the car and anything else I have that we will not beat San Diego State next week. 
I'll take the bet. How does your wife look?

The wife is pretty hot but you won't be having her.  Consider the bet made.  What type of car do you drive?  Do you even own a house, if so I'll be gracious and rent it back to you for a nominal fee.  I'll even through in some reading comprehension classes for you. 
LOL. Consider me welching on my bet. So many people have been saying San Diego State...I must have just gotten too used to it to notice.
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September 03, 2007, 12:15:27 PM
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This looks like a 7-5 team to me now, which is better than the 4-8 to 6-6 I was afraid of before the season.  Let's break down the numbers by percentages, though.

San Diego State     .9
Missouri State        .9
@ Texas               .3
Kansas                 .5
Colorado               .7
@ Oklahoma State  .5
Baylor                   .7
@ Iowa State        .7
@ Nebraska           .2
Missouri                .4
@ Fresno State      .6

So that's 6.4 and 5.6 for the year, right between 6-6 and 7-5.

September 03, 2007, 12:35:50 PM
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This looks like a 7-5 team to me now, which is better than the 4-8 to 6-6 I was afraid of before the season.  Let's break down the numbers by percentages, though.

San Diego State     .9
Missouri State        .9
@ Texas               .3
Kansas                 .5
Colorado               .7
@ Oklahoma State  .5
Baylor                   .7
@ Iowa State        .7
@ Nebraska           .2
Missouri                .4
@ Fresno State      .6

So that's 6.4 and 5.6 for the year, right between 6-6 and 7-5.

You're not giving us enough credit.

September 03, 2007, 12:44:11 PM
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This looks like a 7-5 team to me now, which is better than the 4-8 to 6-6 I was afraid of before the season.  Let's break down the numbers by percentages, though.

San Diego State     .9
Missouri State        .9
@ Texas               .3
Kansas                 .5
Colorado               .7
@ Oklahoma State  .5
Baylor                   .7
@ Iowa State        .7
@ Nebraska           .2
Missouri                .4
@ Fresno State      .6

So that's 6.4 and 5.6 for the year, right between 6-6 and 7-5.

You're not giving us enough credit.

I think I am.  Look at the games where I have us at 50% or better to win...we win all those, we go 8-4.  I haven't seen enough to think we'll win all those, so I think we go 6-6 or 7-5, but obviously it's within the realm.

September 03, 2007, 12:50:27 PM
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Do people realize that we lost to Auburn?  Why would the season play out any differently?  Hell, if we won why would it play out any differently, except maybe add one more win to your original prediction?   

September 03, 2007, 01:16:46 PM
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Freeman had two INT's and a fumble vs. Auburn.  That brings his career total to 6 TD's, 17 INT's.  Auburn's defense didn't sack him until the end, but they were consistently getting pressure all night long, forcing Freeman to hit the quick dump off passes.

It looks like some of the K-State fans are the ones who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

September 03, 2007, 01:19:23 PM
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Do people realize that we lost to Auburn?  Why would the season play out any differently?  Hell, if we won why would it play out any differently, except maybe add one more win to your original prediction?   

You expected us to play the way we did? You are so full of boush..t. Let me kick your ass @ hale library please.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 03, 2007, 01:21:34 PM
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Freeman had two INT's and a fumble vs. Auburn.  That brings his career total to 6 TD's, 17 INT's.  Auburn's defense didn't sack him until the end, but they were consistently getting pressure all night long, forcing Freeman to hit the quick dump off passes.

It looks like some of the K-State fans are the ones who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Before you injure yourself trying to pat yourself on the back, let me remind you of something..

Who on ku's defense is of the same caliber of players that Auburn has on its team?

Think hard.. get back to me and let me know if I managed to save damage to your ligaments.

September 03, 2007, 01:38:40 PM
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I don't think the loss at AU makes KSU a better team.  We had no tendencies for AU to prepare for.  IMO, every game will be a dogfight.  Yea,we may blow out Mizz St. or even SJSU.   But I don't think we can use Saturday's game as a barometer for gaining any more wins this season.

Since we weren't really able to gauge what KSU's rushing attack is going to be like, I find it hard to believe the Cats will be significantly better than last season.  Although I thought the OLine performed pretty admirably in a hostile environment, it remains to be seen whether that group will reach our expectations.

Don't get me wrong, I thought Prince had a great game plan and executed nearly perfectly.  However, we need to be better on O for this team to move forward.  And that starts with the OLine.

On to SJSU.

September 03, 2007, 01:41:51 PM
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One more thing:

I hope we find many creative ways to get the rock into DMurphy's hands.  That Cat is a blur.

September 03, 2007, 02:12:47 PM
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Do people realize that we lost to Auburn?  Why would the season play out any differently?  Hell, if we won why would it play out any differently, except maybe add one more win to your original prediction?   

You expected us to play the way we did? You are so full of boush..t. Let me kick your ass @ hale library please.

We still lost.  I thought we'd get our ass kicked, and we didn't, so yippie for that.  It was one game against a team that we obviously have been game planning for since April and  Auburn had no tape on our defense.  It was just one game. 

September 03, 2007, 02:15:57 PM
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Freeman had two INT's and a fumble vs. Auburn.  That brings his career total to 6 TD's, 17 INT's.  Auburn's defense didn't sack him until the end, but they were consistently getting pressure all night long, forcing Freeman to hit the quick dump off passes.

It looks like some of the K-State fans are the ones who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Ron Prince to Freeman: "Take what they give you." 

Freeman did this to the tune of 32 completions, would have been 35 except for Gonzalez's ridiculous drops.  Perhaps that was the plan since KSU knew how good Auburn's DL was.

No one in the Big 12, save OU perhaps can match the speed that Auburn had.

September 03, 2007, 02:17:17 PM
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  It was one game against a team that we obviously have been game planning for since April and  Auburn had no tape on our defense.  It was just one game. 

Yes, because after beating Illinois State by one point last year, when people were bitching I'm sure you were saying, "It's still a win, it's obvious Illinois State have been game planning for since April and  Kansas State had no tape on our defense.  It was just one game. "

 :rolleyes:
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 03, 2007, 02:56:34 PM
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Before you injure yourself trying to pat yourself on the back, let me remind you of something..

Who on ku's defense is of the same caliber of players that Auburn has on its team?

Think hard.. get back to me and let me know if I managed to save damage to your ligaments.

Talib, McClinton, Stuckey, and Rivera are of the same caliber.  Auburn's D-ends certainly outclass ku's, but beyond that I don't see that large a talent disparity on D.

September 03, 2007, 04:10:12 PM
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Before you injure yourself trying to pat yourself on the back, let me remind you of something..

Who on ku's defense is of the same caliber of players that Auburn has on its team?

Think hard.. get back to me and let me know if I managed to save damage to your ligaments.

Talib, McClinton, Stuckey, and Rivera are of the same caliber.  Auburn's D-ends certainly outclass ku's, but beyond that I don't see that large a talent disparity on D.

ku has made up a lot of ground in the last 6 months:

Total Defense Rankings:    Auburn     ku
2006                                 19        94

September 03, 2007, 04:28:34 PM
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Before you injure yourself trying to pat yourself on the back, let me remind you of something..

Who on ku's defense is of the same caliber of players that Auburn has on its team?

Think hard.. get back to me and let me know if I managed to save damage to your ligaments.

Talib, McClinton, Stuckey, and Rivera are of the same caliber.  Auburn's D-ends certainly outclass ku's, but beyond that I don't see that large a talent disparity on D.
Talib is the only one that you could put on that list.

September 03, 2007, 05:17:39 PM
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  It was one game against a team that we obviously have been game planning for since April and  Auburn had no tape on our defense.  It was just one game. 

Yes, because after beating Illinois State by one point last year, when people were bitching I'm sure you were saying, "It's still a win, it's obvious Illinois State have been game planning for since April and  Kansas State had no tape on our defense.  It was just one game. "

 :rolleyes:
No.  But that's an example of why we shouldn't look to deep into this game, good or bad.    We're really not at a point under Prince (or as a program for the past 3 years) that we can extrapolate from any one game. 

September 03, 2007, 05:21:16 PM
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Okay, if we beat Missouri State by one point, we'll be sure to find you claiming "no worry. it's a W. Disregard everything else."

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 03, 2007, 05:26:14 PM
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Christ fatty, it was the first game of the season, in game 3 I'd expect something different.  If we beat SJSt. by one AND then Missouri St. by one, then you'd have a couple of data points to start calling a trend.  I guess I don't like every one running around sucking each other d!cks because we pissed away a game against an overrated Auburn team (albeit on the road and in a tough environment).  The one thing I took from this game is that we were able to stop the run against a competent running team, something I don't think we did all last year.  We still can't run the ball (although we never really tried). 

September 03, 2007, 05:29:21 PM
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Christ fatty, it was the first game of the season, in game 3 I'd expect something different.  If we beat SJSt. by one AND then Missouri St. by one, then you'd have a couple of data points to start calling a trend.  I guess I don't like every one running around sucking each other d!cks because we pissed away a game against an overrated Auburn team (albeit on the road and in a tough environment).  The one thing I took from this game is that we were able to stop the run against a competent running team, something I don't think we did all last year.  We still can't run the ball (although we never really tried). 

Please, you just got caught in an embarrassing contradiction. You bitched after last years Illinois state game, and of course the fact that "we didn't have enough data points" didn't matter then did it?

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

September 03, 2007, 05:33:18 PM
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Christ fatty, it was the first game of the season, in game 3 I'd expect something different.  If we beat SJSt. by one AND then Missouri St. by one, then you'd have a couple of data points to start calling a trend.  I guess I don't like every one running around sucking each other d!cks because we pissed away a game against an overrated Auburn team (albeit on the road and in a tough environment).  The one thing I took from this game is that we were able to stop the run against a competent running team, something I don't think we did all last year.  We still can't run the ball (although we never really tried). 

Please, you just got caught in an embarrassing contradiction. You bitched after last years Illinois state game, and of course the fact that "we didn't have enough data points" didn't matter then did it?

I've become more callous to opening games and much like Josh Freeman, I'm becoming more emotionally nuetral.

Also, I don't really remember bitching about that Illinois State game.  Only that I thought we had the most basic offense against them and that their coach was f'ing stupid for going for two. So suck a hard fat one fatty. 
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September 03, 2007, 05:37:03 PM
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