Question for people who think Prince will fail

[Maxell]

74-15-2. Since you wanted to bring up the past and records I figured I'd throw out the Nebraska all-time record against the Purple Puffs. Ouch babe. You guys better get your crap together.

[The Manhatter]

LOL...Nubb yet to beat Texas in Big 12 regular season play but Baylor has...lol.

Damn. Talk about finding a hidden LOL in everything.

 

the only reason I knew that is because there was a funny story about it.  The all-american UT offensive tackle Leonard Davis was on a visit to Baylor for that game as a prep and he helped tear down the goal posts in celebrating the win over what would be his future team.  If that isn't an LOL then I don't know what is..other than Baylor beating Texas in Big 12 regular season and Nebraska not pulling the trick.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1995&end=1998&team1=Baylor&team2=Texas

Colorado, Missouri, KSU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, and Baylor have all defeated Tejas in Big 12 regular season play.  Only Kansas, Iowa State, and Nebraska have not...I'd say that is good company for Nubb.

 

[catzacker]

Silly to try and compare Callahan's first season with Princes. The circumstances regarding Solich's departure led to a small but vital group of players that were disgruntled and really disrupted the transition process. Prince is lucky that he came in when Colorado was undergoing a major coaching change and Iowa State fell flat on their faced and ended up firing their coach. He was extremely fortunate that Colt McCoy was injured or you guys don't even go to a bowl game. If Prince had played the same schedule Nebraska played in 2004, there may have been three wins for him.

At least we didn't lose to Baylor.

That is quite possibily the biggest bullcrap excuse ever.  

NU 2004:
record of opponents                   - 70-59 (54%)
record of opponents that NU beat - 24-32 (43%)
bowl game - no
top 25 teams played: 1
record vs. top 10:  0-1

KSU 2006:
record of opponents                   - 92-68 (58%)
record of opponents that KSU beat - 42-45 (48%)
bowl game - yes
top 25 teams played: 5
Record vs. top 10: 1-1


...next.

[The Manhatter]

The circumstances regarding Solich's departure led to a small but vital group of players that were disgruntled and really disrupted the transition process.

The colorful wording...as if it's been printed and distributed by Nubb to tweak perceptions.


Big time LOL at catzacker's findings.  Nice work zacker.

[Maxell]

Kansas State would have lost to Southern Miss, @Pittsburgh, to Kansas, to Texas Tech in Lubbock, to Kansas State (your 2004 team was much better than last year), to Missouri, at Ames, to Oklahoma in Norman and to Colorado in Boulder. Chew on that one sparky.

[Maxell]

Hatter

74-15-2. Stare at that for a while. 

[The Manhatter]

Hatter

74-15-2. Stare at that for a while. 

well he gave her a good run before the inevitable and predictable 74-15-2 tap out. 

[catzacker]

Kansas State would have lost to Southern Miss, @Pittsburgh, to Kansas, to Texas Tech in Lubbock, to Kansas State (your 2004 team was much better than last year), to Missouri, at Ames, to Oklahoma in Norman and to Colorado in Boulder. Chew on that one sparky.

The 06 KSU squad faced a tougher schedule than NU's 2004 squad and went to a bowl game.
Oh, forgot to mention:

2004:
record of CONFERENCE opponents that NU beat - 12-21 (36%)

2006:
record of CONFERENCE opponents that KSU beat - 23-27 (46%)

[Maxell]

What's your point? Since 2004 Nebraska has increased the scoring margin over K Stank by a total of 44 points. And it will increase again this year in Lincoln. How does it feel to be Nebraska's bitch?? Just because you guys can't get it done against Nebraska, you start pulling out the Texas card. 

[catzacker]

What's your point? Since 2004 Nebraska has increased the scoring margin over K Stank by a total of 44 points. And it will increase again this year in Lincoln. How does it feel to be Nebraska's bitch?? Just because you guys can't get it done against Nebraska, you start pulling out the Texas card. 

You f'ing idiots act like for some reason when a new coach comes in it doesn't take time.  You act as if 2004 never existed, like your gay ass "superior" coach never took a 10-3 team and turn it into a 5-6 team.  I'm not pulling the Texas card, I'm pulling the "our rookie head coach had a better first year against better competition than your throat slashing hillbilly coach had in his first year against worse competition".  And if you use that as a barometer of future success, then it won't be long before you go firing Slash because Ron makes him his bitch. 

[mjrod]

What's your point? Since 2004 Nebraska has increased the scoring margin over K Stank by a total of 44 points. And it will increase again this year in Lincoln. How does it feel to be Nebraska's bitch?? Just because you guys can't get it done against Nebraska, you start pulling out the Texas card. 

Just curious, how'd you come up with that number?

[Huskerfan]

Prince's 2006 and 2007 recruiting classes were fine, and this one might turn out to be too. He's getting the athletes he needs to play on his first teams.  To be fair, many of the two star athletetes will turn out just fine. Unfortunately, the number of two stars that falter compared to three stars is probably much higher. Rankings aren't the 100% accurate obviously, but they are accurate enough that if an entire class is made up of two stars you probably are going to have depth problems. Eventually, those depth problems start to bleed into your first teams. We saw a similar situation at Nebraska, and it is hard to correct once it begins.

Prince showed flashes many times last year that he could be a great coach. However, he may be in danger of backing himself into a corner recruiting-wise.  Like I said, I think your last two classes were fine. If the pattern emerging in your 2008 class continues, however, I think you might have significant problems down the road.

I hope that doesn't happen. I would rather have you guys be good than Missouri. Their fans are starting to remind me of Colorado's. Besides, I thought the series with you guys when both our teams were good was interesting.

I disagree with most of this. Recruiting thirty 2 star guys every year causes depth and talent problems. The number of two star guys who end up being quality Div. I starters is very low compared to 4 and 5 star guys. It's especially tough when you're competing in a conference with several teams that are recruiting substantially better athletes. If you don't have the talent to keep up, you'll get left in the dust.

[Brody88]

Hatter

74-15-2. Stare at that for a while. 

The sad part about you is that I don't think you even realize that by coming to a KSU site and attempting to stir the pot only makes us feel even better about our program.  We know why you hate us, because we are good enough to ruin your season on November 10th and win the Big 12 North.  You don't fool anybody.  I bet you don't pull this crap on Iowa State message boards.  

[Huskerfan]

Hatter

74-15-2. Stare at that for a while. 

The sad part about you is that I don't think you even realize that by coming to a KSU site and attempting to stir the pot only makes us feel even better about our program.  We know why you hate us, because we are good enough to ruin your season on November 10th and win the Big 12 North.  You don't fool anybody.  I bet you don't pull this crap on Iowa State message boards.  

  In other news...pigs do fly.

[Maxell]

Callahan's first year he loses 45-21 to Snyder. Next year we win by 2 in Lincoln so he's made up 26 points in one year. Next year we win by 18 in Manhattan. History would seem to indicate that this year you'll lose by 5-6 touchdowns in Lincoln.

[Huskerfan]

Callahan's first year he loses 45-21 to Snyder. Next year we win by 2 in Lincoln so he's made up 26 points in one year. Next year we win by 18 in Manhattan. History would seem to indicate that this year you'll lose by 5-6 touchdowns in Lincoln.

It'll be interesting to see what the point spread is for the game...my guess it will be substantial.

[mjrod]

I disagree with most of this. Recruiting thirty 2 star guys every year causes depth and talent problems. The number of two star guys who end up being quality Div. I starters is very low compared to 4 and 5 star guys. It's especially tough when you're competing in a conference with several teams that are recruiting substantially better athletes. If you don't have the talent to keep up, you'll get left in the dust.

That's true.  KSU understands and knows this because we've never signed a class with 30- 2 stars in it ever.

[doom]

Prince's 2006 and 2007 recruiting classes were fine, and this one might turn out to be too. He's getting the athletes he needs to play on his first teams.  To be fair, many of the two star athletetes will turn out just fine. Unfortunately, the number of two stars that falter compared to three stars is probably much higher. Rankings aren't the 100% accurate obviously, but they are accurate enough that if an entire class is made up of two stars you probably are going to have depth problems. Eventually, those depth problems start to bleed into your first teams. We saw a similar situation at Nebraska, and it is hard to correct once it begins.

Prince showed flashes many times last year that he could be a great coach. However, he may be in danger of backing himself into a corner recruiting-wise.  Like I said, I think your last two classes were fine. If the pattern emerging in your 2008 class continues, however, I think you might have significant problems down the road.

I hope that doesn't happen. I would rather have you guys be good than Missouri. Their fans are starting to remind me of Colorado's. Besides, I thought the series with you guys when both our teams were good was interesting.

I disagree with most of this. Recruiting thirty 2 star guys every year causes depth and talent problems. The number of two star guys who end up being quality Div. I starters is very low compared to 4 and 5 star guys. It's especially tough when you're competing in a conference with several teams that are recruiting substantially better athletes. If you don't have the talent to keep up, you'll get left in the dust.

Actually having a lot of 2 star guys gives them hope and a chance to shine.  Marcus Watts, Ian Campbell, both were champions for us last year, one was a 2*, and one walked on.

[mjrod]

Callahan's first year he loses 45-21 to Snyder. Next year we win by 2 in Lincoln so he's made up 26 points in one year. Next year we win by 18 in Manhattan. History would seem to indicate that this year you'll lose by 5-6 touchdowns in Lincoln.

LOL.  That was pathetic dude.

[Huskerfan]

Prince's 2006 and 2007 recruiting classes were fine, and this one might turn out to be too. He's getting the athletes he needs to play on his first teams.  To be fair, many of the two star athletetes will turn out just fine. Unfortunately, the number of two stars that falter compared to three stars is probably much higher. Rankings aren't the 100% accurate obviously, but they are accurate enough that if an entire class is made up of two stars you probably are going to have depth problems. Eventually, those depth problems start to bleed into your first teams. We saw a similar situation at Nebraska, and it is hard to correct once it begins.

Prince showed flashes many times last year that he could be a great coach. However, he may be in danger of backing himself into a corner recruiting-wise.  Like I said, I think your last two classes were fine. If the pattern emerging in your 2008 class continues, however, I think you might have significant problems down the road.

I hope that doesn't happen. I would rather have you guys be good than Missouri. Their fans are starting to remind me of Colorado's. Besides, I thought the series with you guys when both our teams were good was interesting.

I disagree with most of this. Recruiting thirty 2 star guys every year causes depth and talent problems. The number of two star guys who end up being quality Div. I starters is very low compared to 4 and 5 star guys. It's especially tough when you're competing in a conference with several teams that are recruiting substantially better athletes. If you don't have the talent to keep up, you'll get left in the dust.

Actually having a lot of 2 star guys gives them hope and a chance to shine.  Marcus Watts, Ian Campbell, both were champions for us last year, one was a 2*, and one walked on.

Wow....so two of your mediocre recruits actually showed something....too bad football is played with 11 guys on each side of the ball. If it was beach volleyball, having two decent players might be worth something.

 

[Pittcat]

I've got some stats for everybody...

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On a KSU site!


 

[Pittcat]

And here's another.....


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[fatty fat fat]

Callahan's first year he loses 45-21 to Snyder.

 

[Pett]

Callahan's first year he loses 45-21 to Snyder.

 

Definately a  for losing that badly to our 2004 team.

[ksuguy9]

we will get atleast 7 wins in the regular season. Thats not what im looking at right now. Im focused on the players developing. This team in 08 will be the best in the north. The question is though, can we not make those stupid mistake like last year. Look for a better team, but a little better record. Nothing less than 7-5. I think that Once we go into Lincoln, we will control our own destiny, and same wiht mu. Lets tak care of auburn first.

[catdude33]

I still can't believe NU has never beat Texas in regular season play.  God that is pathetic.   

[Maxell]

we will get atleast 7 wins in the regular season. Thats not what im looking at right now. Im focused on the players developing. This team in 08 will be the best in the north. The question is though, can we not make those stupid mistake like last year. Look for a better team, but a little better record. Nothing less than 7-5. I think that Once we go into Lincoln, we will control our own destiny, and same wiht mu. Lets tak care of auburn first.

How do you figure you'll be the best in the North in '08? Nebraska's D-line will return every player from this year's team and will be 3 deep with all-conference players at every position on the DL in 08. Unless you find an OL, you'll likely get wrecked in 08. He who controls the LOS wins. Period. And our OL-stacked. We might have a new QB in '08 but either Patrick Witt or Zac Lee will be better than Freeman.

[Huskerfan]

we will get atleast 7 wins in the regular season. Thats not what im looking at right now. Im focused on the players developing. This team in 08 will be the best in the north. The question is though, can we not make those stupid mistake like last year. Look for a better team, but a little better record. Nothing less than 7-5. I think that Once we go into Lincoln, we will control our own destiny, and same wiht mu. Lets tak care of auburn first.

How do you figure you'll be the best in the North in '08? Nebraska's D-line will return every player from this year's team and will be 3 deep with all-conference players at every position on the DL in 08. Unless you find an OL, you'll likely get wrecked in 08. He who controls the LOS wins. Period. And our OL-stacked. We might have a new QB in '08 but either Patrick Witt or Zac Lee will be better than Freeman.

QFT.

[Pett]

Either Patrick Witt or Zac Lee will be better than Freeman.

 

You have no idea how big of a homer you are. Seriously, it's pretty sad.

So you're telling me that unproven & inexperienced QB's Lee or Witt will be better than 3rd year starting QB JF???

I'd imagine that either Witt or Lee will win National offensive player of the week, Big XII offensive player of the week twice too, wouldn't they?

Jim Rose??  

[Maxell]

We don't even play these chumps until mid-November next year. By that time, any inexperienced spots will be shored up and Callahan will put Prince on his knee and spank him...again.