rivals OL star rankings..top 30 NCAA offenses...bad news for Nubb...

[The Manhatter]

It's a good thing we don't have Nubb's OL class...they go bust a lot as highly ranked OL.  And no way we could have a good offense in the future w/ bums like Burris, Caprioglio, and Douglas committed. 

I took the top 30 BCS conference only offenses in "total offense" in '06 and checked what their rivals star ranking was coming out of "HIGH SCHOOL" (as in not JC if they signed out of JC). I classified the "NR" and "Not in database" in w/ the two stars.

30 teams x 5 starters = 150 starters

5 star - 4
4 star - 26
3 star - 62
2 star - 58


2 Louisville
Not in database - George Bussey
2 star - Danny Barlowe
2 star - Eric Wood
2 star - Renardo Foster
2 star - kurt Quarterman

5 West Virginia
2 star - Ryan Stanchek
2 star - Jake Figner
NR - Greg Isdaner
2 star - Jeremy Sheffey
2 star - Dan Mozes

6 Texas Tech
2 star - Glenn January
3 star - Louis Vazquez
NR - Brandon Jones
3 star - Manuel Ramirez
3 star - Gabe Hall

8 Missouri
4 star - Tyler Luellen
2 star - Ryan Madison
3 star - Adam Speiker
2 star - Mike Cook,
3 star - Joel Clinger

9 Oregon
3 star - Max Unger
3 star - Jeff Schwartz
3 star - Josh Tschirgi
Not in database - Palauni Ma Sun
3 star - Enoka Lucas

11 LSU
3 star - Ciron Black
4 star - Herman Johnson
3 star - Brett Helms
3 star - Brian Johnson
2 star - Peter Dyakowski

12 California
Not in database - Andrew Cameron
2 star - Scott Smith
2 star - Alex Mack
2 star - Erik Robertson
3 star - Norris Malele

13 Purdue
3 star - Jordan Grimes
3 star - Robbie Powell
2 star - Sean Sester
2 star - Uchi Nwaneri
2 star - Mike Otto

14 Nebraska
3 star - Chris Patrick
2 star - Mike Huff
3 star - Brett Byford
2 star - Greg Austin
NR - Matt Slauson

15 Clemson
2 star - Barry Richardson
2 star - Nathan Bennett
4 star - Dustin Fry
3 star - Roman Fry
3 star - Marion Dukes

16 Oklahoma St.
2 star - David Koenig
3 star - Brady Bond
3 star - kurt Seifried
2 star - David Washington
2 star - Corey Hilliard

18 Texas A&M
2 star - Yemi Babalola
3 star - Kirk Elder
3 star - Corey Clark
3 star - Cody Wallace
3 star - Grant Dickey

19 Florida
3 star - Phil Trautwein
3 star - Jim Tartt
3 star - Steve Rissler
4 star - Drew Miller
3 star - Carlton Medder

20 South Carolina
2 star - Jamon Meredith
3 star - Justin Sorenson
Not in database - Thomas Coleman
Not in database - Seth Edwards
3 star - Chris White

21 Southern California
4 star - Chilo Rachal
3 star - Ryan Kalil
4 star - Drew Radovich
4 star - Sam Baker
4 star - Kyle Williams

22 Texas
3 star - Adam Ulatoski
4 star - Kasey Studdard
4 star - Lyle Sendlein
5 star - Justin Blalock
5 star - Tony Hills

23 Notre Dame
3 star - Ryan Harris
5 star - Sam Young
4 star - John Sullivan
3 star - Dan Santucci
4 star - Bob Morton,

25 Washington St.
3 star - Bobby Byrd
2 star - Dan Rowlands
3 star - Kenny Alfred
Not in database - Sean O'Connor
Not in database - Charles Harris

26 Ohio St.
5 star - Alex Boone
3 star - Steve Rehring
4 star - Doug Datish
3 star - TJ Downing
3 star - Kirk Barton

27 Iowa
Not in database - Marshall Yanda
4 star - Mike Jones
4 star - Rafael Eubanks
2 star - Mike Elgin
3 star - Seth Olsen

29 Arkansas
4 star - Tony Ugoh
Not in database - Stephen Parker
2 star - Jonathan Luigs
3 star - Robert Felton
2 star - Zac Tubbs

30 Minnesota
3 star - Tony Brinkhaus
3 star - Steve Shidell
3 star - Ned Tavale
2 star - Joe Ainslie
2 star - Tyson Swaggert

31 Kentucky
2 star - Gary Williams
2 star - Christian Johnson
Not in database - Matt McCutchan
Not in database - Trai Williams
2 star - Michael Aitcheson

33 Kansas
2 star - Cesar Rodriguez
3 star - David Ochoa
2 star - Anthony Collins
3 star - Bob Whitaker
2 star - Travis Dambach

35 Wisconsin
4 star - Joe Thomas
3 star - Andy Kemp
3 star - Marcus Coleman
3 star - Kraig Urbik
3 star - Eric Vanden Heuvel

36 Tennessee
4 star - Aaron Sears
4 star - David Ligon
4 star - Josh McNeil
4 star - Eric Young
3 star - Anthony Parker

37 Pittsburgh
Not in database - Jeff Otah
2 star - CJ Davis
3 star - Joe Thomas
3 star - Mike McGlynn
NR - Joe Villani

38 Michigan
4 star - Jake Long
4 star - Adam Kraus
3 star - Mark Bihl
4 star - Alex Mitchell
3 star - Rueben Riley

40 Oklahoma
4 star - Duke Robinson
3 star - John Cooper
Not in database - Brandon Walker
4 star - Brandon Braxton
3 star - Chris Messner

42 Arizona St.
3 star - Mike Pollak
3 star - Brandon Rodd
Not in database - Paul Fanaika
3 star - Robert Gustavis
3 star - Julius Orieukwu

 

[Pett]

That's great stuff Hatter....

[catinthehat]

yeah great stuff.  to bad it doesn't mean anything as total offense doesn't equate to wins and losses or even scoring offense, just ask mizzou

keep spinning and grasping at straws hatter

[The Manhatter]

yeah great stuff.  to bad it doesn't mean anything as total offense doesn't equate to wins and losses or even scoring offense, just ask mizzou

keep spinning and grasping at straws hatter

the only one spinning is you.  How many times have we heard some red turd over here tell us about their OL class? 

We already know about defense and special teams...see "Is Prince's first year artificial" thread for more on that.

We're talking offense in this thread and, more specifically, the offensive line.  Get it yet?

And FYI, when you say "to bad"...it's actually "too". 

Thanks for your concern.

[rumblefish]

Where's K-State on the list? Didn't see us listed.

[Maxell]

Too bad you keep neglecting the fact that Callahan is one of the top 5 OL coaches in all of football and Wagner has a history of taking unheralded players and turning them into 1st round NFL draft picks. I'm sure you'll remember Snyder saying Wagner's Fresno State OL gave Kansas State the worst physical beating he ever got at Kansas State. You guys better find some elite DL and in a hurry. Or you're about to get steamrolled. Gabe Crews ain't gonna cut it against Nebraska. The dude will be digging himself out of the turf with a shovel.

[FBWillie]

Too bad you keep neglecting the fact that Callahan is one of the top 5 OL coaches in all of football and Wagner has a history of taking unheralded players and turning them into 1st round NFL draft picks. I'm sure you'll remember Snyder saying Wagner's Fresno State OL gave Kansas State the worst physical beating he ever got at Kansas State. You guys better find some elite DL and in a hurry. Or you're about to get steamrolled. Gabe Crews ain't gonna cut it against Nebraska. The dude will be digging himself out of the turf with a shovel.

Sticky this please.  I never had any expectations for crews, but thanks to this husker he'll become something yet.

 

[opcat]

Hatter. Will you bitch out Jeremy Crabtree?

[Maxell]

Crews against Keith Williams-who ya got? 

[Maxell]

BTW, its a good thing we haven't recruited ALL 4 and 5 star OL. I mean your point is illustrated Hatter-Keith Williams=3 star; Jacob Hickman=3 star; Marcel Jones=3 star; Matt Slauson=0 star 

All future NFL players 

[Huskerfan]

Interesting. I see Nebraska in the list...and even Kansas....but where's Kansas State? I love the fact that you morons don't even bother comparing Nebraska and K-State most of the time, but resort to comparing Nebraska to teams like USC, Florida, etc. It's a good indicator that you secretly realize that you're not even competitive with Nebraska any more.

Second, this is the same offensive line for the most part that steamrolled you idiots, at home in Manhattan last year. If our O-Line was that bad, then how miserable was your front seven?  

Third, have you seen the class we have this year? Our O-Line recruits probably have as many stars as your entire recruiting class.

It's amusing how often I can tune into what people are posting here and find these envy-laden threads by the "homosexual purple" clad idiots. Here's an idea...when you guys are actually of the caliber that anyone even notices you, and can manage to compete with Nebraska, then post about us. Doing so now is just pathetic.

You're a bug on our windshield.

  Kansas Light!!!

[ksuno1stunner]

Interesting. I see Nebraska in the list...and even Kansas....but where's Kansas State? I love the fact that you morons don't even bother comparing Nebraska and K-State most of the time, but resort to comparing Nebraska to teams like USC, Florida, etc. It's a good indicator that you secretly realize that you're not even competitive with Nebraska any more.

Second, this is the same offensive line for the most part that steamrolled you idiots, at home in Manhattan last year. If our O-Line was that bad, then how miserable was your front seven? 

Third, have you seen the class we have this year? Our O-Line recruits probably have as many stars as your entire recruiting class.

It's amusing how often I can tune into what people are posting here and find these envy-laden threads by the "homosexual purple" clad idiots. Here's an idea...when you guys are actually of the caliber that anyone even notices you, and can manage to compete with Nebraska, then post about us. Doing so now is just pathetic.

You're a bug on our windshield.

  Nebraska!!!

Wow, that has like, nothing to do with Hatter's post.

Too bad you keep neglecting the fact that Callahan is one of the top 5 OL coaches in all of football and Wagner has a history of taking unheralded players and turning them into 1st round NFL draft picks. I'm sure you'll remember Snyder saying Wagner's Fresno State OL gave Kansas State the worst physical beating he ever got at Kansas State. You guys better find some elite DL and in a hurry. Or you're about to get steamrolled. Gabe Crews ain't gonna cut it against Nebraska. The dude will be digging himself out of the turf with a shovel.

Da Brick Ferguson.

[The Manhatter]

LOL at Nubbies.

Look at the numbers please.  They don't lie.

Why was KSU not on that list?  I don't know...why was NU not on that list in Callahan's first year?  Get it yet?  First year...new QB, new everything.  Thanks for making common sense out of this.

Again, look at the numbers please.

LOL at Nubb OL "steamrolling" our defense in Manhattan last year.  Yep..one good run(Lucky) was produced by the OL.  Taylor boot and BJax great effort on a 48 yarder..nothing to do w/ an OL that was dominated.  Other 40 runs produced 78 yards...Taylor sacked 4 times and harrassed every time he dropped back to pass.

Wagner...lol.  Everybody dominated that defense in '04.

[mjrod]

Interesting. I see Nebraska in the list...and even Kansas....but where's Kansas State? I love the fact that you morons don't even bother comparing Nebraska and K-State most of the time, but resort to comparing Nebraska to teams like USC, Florida, etc. It's a good indicator that you secretly realize that you're not even competitive with Nebraska any more.

Second, this is the same offensive line for the most part that steamrolled you idiots, at home in Manhattan last year. If our O-Line was that bad, then how miserable was your front seven? 

Third, have you seen the class we have this year? Our O-Line recruits probably have as many stars as your entire recruiting class.

It's amusing how often I can tune into what people are posting here and find these envy-laden threads by the "homosexual purple" clad idiots. Here's an idea...when you guys are actually of the caliber that anyone even notices you, and can manage to compete with Nebraska, then post about us. Doing so now is just pathetic.

You're a bug on our windshield.

  Kansas Light!!!

Are you ever going to address the inconsistencies of the statements where you tell us how great NU's O-Line will be and how great your recruiting classes are when the facts do not support your case?   You get three wins against KSU this decade and you're being quite uppity.   Did you not forget the three beatings in a row that made Nebraska look like K-State circa 1985?

[Huskerfan]

Are you ever going to address the inconsistencies of the statements where you tell us how great NU's O-Line will be and how great your recruiting classes are when the facts do not support your case?   You get three wins against KSU this decade and you're being quite uppity.   Did you not forget the three beatings in a row that made Nebraska look like K-State circa 1985?

You have about a seven year period in the last hundred of so that you were semi-relevant. Even in that limited timespan, you were never even seriously in the National Championship picture. For most of your history, you've been the consensus choice as the worst team in the history of Division I college football. In the meantime, Nebraska is a powerhouse, and one of the top 5 or 10 programs in the history of college football. based on those facts, who's being "uppity."

You say much of Nebraska's glory is in the past. I say K-State even being in the same discussion with us is in the past. The facts are these...we have a better and more talented team. We have better and more highly ranked recruits coming in every year. The gap between Nebraska and K-State is growing, not shrinking. Look at your last couple of recruiting classes, and it just reinforces the point.

K-State is a lot closer to bottom of the division than the top.

[Pett]

You have about a seven year period in the last hundred of so that you were semi-relevant.

Ummm, excuse me??? Does semi-relevant equal 6/7 11 win seasons??? That feat has only been accomplished by three university's in the history of college football.

Yep, semi-relevent. 

[Huskerfan]

Ummm, excuse me??? Does semi-relevant equal 6/7 11 win seasons???

Semi-relevant means some success, but never seriously in the National Championship picture.

That feat has only been accomplished by three university's in the history of college football.

Wow....that's a huge accomplishment.  How many National Championships do you have? How many conference championships? When you sit and stare at an empty and dusty trophy case, stringing together some 11-win seasons must seem like a big deal.

Just in case you're wondering what a National Championship trophy looks like, feel free to check them out:

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&KEY=&SPID=22&SPSID=230

 

[mjrod]

Ummm, excuse me??? Does semi-relevant equal 6/7 11 win seasons???

Semi-relevant means some success, but never seriously in the National Championship picture.

That feat has only been accomplished by three university's in the history of college football.

Wow....that's a huge accomplishment.  How many National Championships do you have? How many conference championships? When you sit and stare at an empty and dusty trophy case, stringing together some 11-win seasons must seem like a big deal.

Just in case you're wondering what a National Championship trophy looks like, feel free to check them out:

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&KEY=&SPID=22&SPSID=230

 

What does any of that have to do with TheManhatter's facts?   Evasion back to NC's does nothing to help your ability to discuss football, which is becoming clear you have no ability to do so.

[Pittcat]

Ummm, excuse me??? Does semi-relevant equal 6/7 11 win seasons???

Semi-relevant means some success, but never seriously in the National Championship picture.

That feat has only been accomplished by three university's in the history of college football.

Wow....that's a huge accomplishment.  How many National Championships do you have? How many conference championships? When you sit and stare at an empty and dusty trophy case, stringing together some 11-win seasons must seem like a big deal.

Just in case you're wondering what a National Championship trophy looks like, feel free to check them out:

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&KEY=&SPID=22&SPSID=230

 

And when will Callahan bring another to Nubb?  Maybe the second tuesday of NEVER!!!  It's people like you that make me happy I don't live in Nebraska anymore.

[mjrod]

Ummm, excuse me??? Does semi-relevant equal 6/7 11 win seasons???

Semi-relevant means some success, but never seriously in the National Championship picture.

That feat has only been accomplished by three university's in the history of college football.

Wow....that's a huge accomplishment.  How many National Championships do you have? How many conference championships? When you sit and stare at an empty and dusty trophy case, stringing together some 11-win seasons must seem like a big deal.

Just in case you're wondering what a National Championship trophy looks like, feel free to check them out:

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&KEY=&SPID=22&SPSID=230

 

And when will Callahan bring another to Nubb?  Maybe the second tuesday of NEVER!!!  It's people like you that make me happy I don't live in Nebraska anymore.

You lived in Nebraska?  I should probably move you out of cub status.  That's like being poked in the eye with a hot iron.

[Huskerfan]

What does any of that have to do with TheManhatter's facts?

Selectively parsing the record for any signs of hope for Homosexual Purple Nation? How is that relevant?

Evasion back to NC's does nothing to help your ability to discuss football, which is becoming clear you have no ability to do so.

That was obviously in response to KSUCats' post about how proud he was about stringing together a few 11 win seasons. try to follow along.

Also, was that statement even written in English?

[Pittcat]

Ummm, excuse me??? Does semi-relevant equal 6/7 11 win seasons???

Semi-relevant means some success, but never seriously in the National Championship picture.

That feat has only been accomplished by three university's in the history of college football.

Wow....that's a huge accomplishment.  How many National Championships do you have? How many conference championships? When you sit and stare at an empty and dusty trophy case, stringing together some 11-win seasons must seem like a big deal.

Just in case you're wondering what a National Championship trophy looks like, feel free to check them out:

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&KEY=&SPID=22&SPSID=230

 

And when will Callahan bring another to Nubb?  Maybe the second tuesday of NEVER!!!  It's people like you that make me happy I don't live in Nebraska anymore.

You lived in Nebraska?  I should probably move you out of cub status.  That's like being poked in the eye with a hot iron.

That pretty much describes my time there.  The term "Corn-fed and inbred"  also comes to mind.

[Huskerfan]

That pretty much describes my time there.  The term "Corn-fed and inbred"  also comes to mind.

With an attitude like that, good riddance. Not sure what part of the state you lived in, but the worst part of Nebraska is infinitely preferable to Manhattan.

[Pittcat]

That pretty much describes my time there.  The term "Corn-fed and inbred"  also comes to mind.

With an attitude like that, good riddance. Not sure what part of the state you lived in, but the worst part of Nebraska is infinitely preferable to Manhattan.

I found one good thing in Nebraska, MY WIFE!  And she's a k-state fan now.  And the worst day in Manhattan is better than any day in Nebraska.  And I had plenty of them. 

[Huskerfan]

I found one good thing in Nebraska, MY WIFE!

If she enjoys wearing homosexual purple and rooting for a perennial loser, you're welcome to her.

And the worst day in Manhattan is better than any day in Nebraska.

Only if you like gravel roads, lacking indoor plumbing, pathetic sports teams, and perpetual losing. For a real sports fan, living in Manhattan would be miserable.

[Pittcat]

I found one good thing in Nebraska, MY WIFE!

If she enjoys wearing homosexual purple and rooting for a perennial loser, you're welcome to her.

And the worst day in Manhattan is better than any day in Nebraska.

For a fair weather fan, living in Manhattan would be miserable.

FIFY
 

[Huskerfan]

I'm not a fair weather fan. I root for Creighton's basketball team and Nebraska's basketball and football teams. If Creighton plays Nebraska, as an alum, I root for Creighton.

The irony is that you morons keep insisting that Nebraska is done-for and will never again be an elite team, and then accuse me of being a fair-weather fan. How is it possible for me to be a fair-weather fan if Nebraska is as bad as you insist?

 

[Pittcat]

I'm not a fair weather fan. I root for Creighton's basketball team and Nebraska's basketball and football teams. If Creighton plays Nebraska, as an alum, I root for Creighton.

The irony is that you morons keep insisting that Nebraska is done-for and will never again be an elite team, and then accuse me of being a fair-weather fan. How is it possible for me to be a fair-weather fan if Nebraska is as bad as you insist?

 

Ever go to a bar in Lincoln and order a Frank Solich? (7 and 7)  I lived in your state for twelve freaking years.  NU has more fair weather fans than any other college team period. 

[Pittcat]

Glad you root for Creighton too, I never called YOU a fair weather fan.  But a crap-load of you guys are.  I have in laws that are.

[Huskerfan]

Ever go to a bar in Lincoln and order a Frank Solich? (7 and 7)

I didn't know that....but it's hilarious.

I lived in your state for twelve freaking years.

If you lived here for 12 years, and are both happy to have left, and a K-State fan, then I can assure you we're happy to have you gone.

NU has more fair weather fans than any other college team period.  

Based on what? Again, the people on here insist that Nebraska sucks...and then also accuse their fans of being fair-weather fans...so which is it? How many fair-weather fans follow teams that suck?  

Apparently logic isn't covered in any of the classes required for a K-State degree.