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Author Topic: Bishop beating out Crouch for starting job in CFL  (Read 1910 times)

June 01, 2007, 01:06:13 PM
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June 01, 2007, 07:33:13 PM
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ok, consider this your education parker, free of charge.

The year Nuke got hurt he was very concerned about coming back from his injury after to long of a rest so he was trying to rush his rehab.  Solich commited what would be many cardinal sin violations by promising that nomatter what, he would start the next year.  At the time fearless frank thought it was a legit promise, and it probaly was.  Unfornuately for fearless eric crouch exploded onto the qb scene in the spring like no other nu qb ever, not even tommie frazier had an impressive as spring.  The team tried to bottle the hype, but eventually the media took notice, those who watched practices took notice and the players all said the same thing, crouch should start.  crouch dominated in the spring game and did everything a man should do to wi nthe starting job.  by this time everyone knew crouch should start.  Frank went with nuke because of the promise.  This was pretty much a stab in the back by frank to crouch.  Now some of you might not know this, but crouch grew up without a dad and didn't have anyone to talk to.  He went home, after classes on friday to talk to the only man who he had a father/son relationship with, and that was his hs coach.  He never quit, he never withdrew from any classes or any of that stuff.   Long story short, frank came crawling back, he decided to go out and win the job again.  After the 3rd game of the year frank was forced to go with crouch after the most amazing single quarter of any college football player in the history of the game.

now.  On to his stint with the rams.  Martz asked Crouch what he thought about going t othe rams in the 3rd.  crouch told them only if he got to play qb first.  Otherwise he didn't want to be drafted.  Marts promised and a verbal contract was formed.  crouch got into camp, never got to play qb.  So, he left.  He didn't quit football, he just left the rams.  See parker, you don't get it.   you said before he should have just taken the money and been happy with wr but that isn't the mark of a true competitor.  he wanted a legit shot at qb.  it was his dream, he needed to know for a fact if he could make it or not.  if martz wouldn't give it to him as promised he would go somepalce else.

He was on his way to the cfl to play FOOTBALL when the packers picked him up off waivers.  they gave him a legit shot at qb.  after a few days he was told he wasn't qb material and he was ok with that.  he triede to help the team on spec teams and what not but he hadn't caught a punt in 6 years.  Green bay cut him.

now, he is still playing football in the cfl as a qb.  Doesn't sound like a quitter to me, sounds like somebody who has the integrity to turn down a big fat nfl contract and the chance to ride the pine and not earn that paycheck for the chance to play his favorite position.  Some people can't get that, because they are not and never will be champions, crouch is a champion.  how anyone can call him a quitter after watching him carry nebraska for 4 years is beyond me.

frost had mucho success because of an all american o-line and a superstar at rb.  Crouch had none of that and still  dominated enough to win the heisman. 

June 01, 2007, 07:42:26 PM
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ok, consider this your education parker, free of charge.

The year Nuke got hurt he was very concerned about coming back from his injury after to long of a rest so he was trying to rush his rehab.  Solich commited what would be many cardinal sin violations by promising that nomatter what, he would start the next year.  At the time fearless frank thought it was a legit promise, and it probaly was.  Unfornuately for fearless eric crouch exploded onto the qb scene in the spring like no other nu qb ever, not even tommie frazier had an impressive as spring.  The team tried to bottle the hype, but eventually the media took notice, those who watched practices took notice and the players all said the same thing, crouch should start.  crouch dominated in the spring game and did everything a man should do to wi nthe starting job.  by this time everyone knew crouch should start.  Frank went with nuke because of the promise.  This was pretty much a stab in the back by frank to crouch.  Now some of you might not know this, but crouch grew up without a dad and didn't have anyone to talk to.  He went home, after classes on friday to talk to the only man who he had a father/son relationship with, and that was his hs coach.  He never quit, he never withdrew from any classes or any of that stuff.   Long story short, frank came crawling back, he decided to go out and win the job again.  After the 3rd game of the year frank was forced to go with crouch after the most amazing single quarter of any college football player in the history of the game.

now.  On to his stint with the rams.  Martz asked Crouch what he thought about going t othe rams in the 3rd.  crouch told them only if he got to play qb first.  Otherwise he didn't want to be drafted.  Marts promised and a verbal contract was formed.  crouch got into camp, never got to play qb.  So, he left.  He didn't quit football, he just left the rams.  See parker, you don't get it.   you said before he should have just taken the money and been happy with wr but that isn't the mark of a true competitor.  he wanted a legit shot at qb.  it was his dream, he needed to know for a fact if he could make it or not.  if martz wouldn't give it to him as promised he would go somepalce else.

He was on his way to the cfl to play FOOTBALL when the packers picked him up off waivers.  they gave him a legit shot at qb.  after a few days he was told he wasn't qb material and he was ok with that.  he triede to help the team on spec teams and what not but he hadn't caught a punt in 6 years.  Green bay cut him.

now, he is still playing football in the cfl as a qb.  Doesn't sound like a quitter to me, sounds like somebody who has the integrity to turn down a big fat nfl contract and the chance to ride the pine and not earn that paycheck for the chance to play his favorite position.  Some people can't get that, because they are not and never will be champions, crouch is a champion.  how anyone can call him a quitter after watching him carry nebraska for 4 years is beyond me.

frost had mucho success because of an all american o-line and a superstar at rb.  Crouch had none of that and still  dominated enough to win the heisman. 

It took you a thousand words to say absolutely nothing. I'm sorry if you have posters of Eric Crouch on your wall and he is your hero, but the fact is he has a tendency to take his ball and go home when things don't go his way. To deny it just makes you look like a dumbass because everyone could see it. And if you don't think he had talent around him then I don't know where you were a few years ago. It had bled out by 2001 a lot, but he had a ton of talent around him in 1998, 1999, and 2000.

As for Frost, you were completely off-base, and watching you backtrack from it was funny.

Keep your arrogant little comments to yourself until you know what the hell you are talking about.  :poundon:

Later.

June 01, 2007, 10:34:03 PM
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took his ball and went home?  I know you love to take it up the as* for ksu fans but this is even beyond that.  fact is, he  never quit once.  He enver quit Nebraska, just got really mad over an injustice that was done ot him.  I wonder what would happen to you, if you got passed over for a promotion at work because the girl that got it was blowing the boss.  You telling me you wouldn't be mad or think about leaving?    well, fact is crouch never quit nebraska, he never quit playing football period, beceause that is what he is doing right now.  and unless I am mistaken, he isn't the starter and he isn't quitting.  Just because you have  no integrity parker doesn't mean everyone should act like you.


June 01, 2007, 10:50:21 PM
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 :lol: Crouch is a champion! Yeah man, he's a champion!

June 01, 2007, 10:53:38 PM
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June 02, 2007, 12:02:46 AM
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took his ball and went home?  I know you love to take it up the as* for ksu fans but this is even beyond that.  fact is, he  never quit once.  He enver quit Nebraska, just got really mad over an injustice that was done ot him.  I wonder what would happen to you, if you got passed over for a promotion at work because the girl that got it was blowing the boss.  You telling me you wouldn't be mad or think about leaving?    well, fact is crouch never quit nebraska, he never quit playing football period, beceause that is what he is doing right now.  and unless I am mistaken, he isn't the starter and he isn't quitting.  Just because you have  no integrity parker doesn't mean everyone should act like you.

You just accused Bobby Newcombe of blowing Frank Solich, and you are saying I have no integrity?  :eek:

I think what you are calling lack of integrity is the fact that I say what I think, and I don't take the homer position on everything. As for you, well, not so much.  :blahblah:

June 02, 2007, 07:45:40 AM
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who accused nuke of blowing who?  lol.  I never faulted bobby in any of my posts, only frank.  a good hc never promises a starting position to anyone.  especially to a kid coming off a serious injury.  and I am not taking the homer point of view, only the factual one.  I realize that you have no facts and only regurgitate what you hear from others or talk radio but that is on you.


you still havn't been able to tell me how a guy can quit football, yet still be playing football.  that is just hard to grasp

June 02, 2007, 08:21:49 AM
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You are such a joke. Ignoring facts? You wanted to sound real smart so you laughed when I said Frost might have been the best passer we had. Then I showed you his records in passing and you started making excuses. "But, but, Frost had Ahman Green and a great line! How dare you say he was a good passer and base it on facts! No one is as good as Eric Crouch! My dad says so and he's super smart!"  :crybaby:

Crouch was a great qb, but your obsession with him is slightly disturbing.  :lick:

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June 02, 2007, 10:44:13 AM
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Crouch couldn't hold Frazier's jockstrap.  Crouch was the most overrated player ever (well maybe that Polus guy from ND).
Crouch = Only Heisman winner ever that had more INTs than TDs, yep great QB there.

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June 02, 2007, 03:14:14 PM
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so, you throw out some rinky dinky stat about him not throwing slot of picks and that prove it huh?  do you remember our offense back then, remember the low percentage passes he had to throw?  you7 obviously never coaches or played and wouldn't know a good passer if one bit you in the face.

still waiting to hear how crouch quit a sport he is still playing.  I guess by your logic, zac taylor is nothing but a quitter as well

June 02, 2007, 05:01:27 PM
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so, you throw out some rinky dinky stat about him not throwing slot of picks and that prove it huh?  do you remember our offense back then, remember the low percentage passes he had to throw?  you7 obviously never coaches or played and wouldn't know a good passer if one bit you in the face.

still waiting to hear how crouch quit a sport he is still playing.  I guess by your logic, zac taylor is nothing but a quitter as well


 :lol:

Good god. It's like each time you post in this thread you make less and less sense and become more and more desperate. First you accused Newcombe of having an inappropriate relationship with Solich, and now there are quarterbacks biting my face?  :loly:

Okay, whatever.  :thumbsup:

I'm going to pause here and remind you what you are acting like a dumbass about: all I said was that Frost might have been the best passer we had, and that though Crouch was a great quarterback, he has had a tendency to give up when things don't go his way...nothing worth throwing a tantrum over.

I stand by what I said, as the facts support my opinion in both cases. But by all means, keep crying about it.  :crybaby:


ERIC CROUCH'S POST HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL CAREER

Quarterback at Nebraska...........didn't get starting qb job and then tried to quit

St. Louis Rams..........didn't like to play wideout and then quit

Green Bay.........didn't cut it as NFL qb, didn't like to play wideout, and then quit

Hamburg Germany Sea Devils...........didn't like to play safety and then quit

Toronto Argonauts............beaten out for qb by Michael Bishop and then ??

Are you seeing the pattern here yet?  :popcorn:



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