Who are Martin and Hill tied to for next year?

[Jayhox]

There has been a ton of talk about getting a couple more players in this class.  What about next year?  Do Martin and hill have anyone seriously considering K-State is a lock for 5 star status?

[michigancat]

Lock for 5 star?  The bar has been raised.

[Jayhox]

I'm serious.  4 stars are more often misses than hits when it comes to being truly great players that carry programs.  The 5 stars are generally locks to be impact players, which is what your new staff will need after next year.

[konofo]

The 5 stars are generally locks to be impact players.

Whatever you say, champ.

Sincerely,
Jason Bennett

[fatty fat fat]

Thank God for Brown, Sutton and Pullen. We would be 2-14 in 08-09 w/o them.

[steve dave]

The 5 stars are generally locks to be impact players.

Whatever you say, champ.

Sincerely,
Jason Bennett

LMFAO 

[ksu_FAN]

Martin is recruiting Kadji, though he is only ****.  

[Jayhox]

I am serious.  Who are you guys on for future classes?  I honestly don't know.  I recall someone saying before the Huggy thing came up that your top prospect was predicted to be a 4 star and that the others were 3 stars at best.  Was that wrong?

[fatty fat fat]

I am serious.  Who are you guys on for future classes?  I honestly don't know.  I recall someone saying before the Huggy thing came up that your top prospect was predicted to be a 4 star and that the others were 3 stars at best.  Was that wrong?

Who knows now?

[Jayhox]

OK, fair enough.  That is all I was asking.

[catzacker]

Name me the 5* locks for ku right now.

[yosh]

We honestly don't know yet...We've been linked to a handful of 5-star players, but it's too early to know how serious it is, or if Huggins being gone will change the status with these guys.  It's way too early for anyone to give an educated answer to that question.

[catzacker]

With Martin running the show and Hill as an assistant we're only going to be able to get 4* players.  We've been such an elite program for so long, I can't believe we're lowering ourselves to these types of players. 

[michigancat]

I am serious.  Who are you guys on for future classes?  I honestly don't know.  I recall someone saying before the Huggy thing came up that your top prospect was predicted to be a 4 star and that the others were 3 stars at best.  Was that wrong?

Kadji, Shipman, Witherspoon, Swopshire, and Woods are all 4 stars.  There were other 4 stars, and a couple 5 stars KSU was in on, but I only included the ones with clear connections to Hill or Martin.

[j-vonfeldt]

Here ya go, this is our current list for next year but who we are still tied to, I'm not sure anyone knows...

[pissclams]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

[michigancat]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

I think we'll see.  It all depends on how the team does next season and how Beasley and Walker do in the draft.

IMO, it says something about their abilities when none of them want to leave with Huggins out of the picture.  Maybe Weiser just scared them into staying with his LOI threats...I don't know.

[catzacker]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

Disappointed compared to what?  Asbury recruiting?  Wooly recruiting?  I wish people would quit acting like our program has just been raking in the McD's AA over the past 20 years.  If all we end up with are 4* and 3* players with a 5* every other year, count me as not disappointed. 

Yeah, in comparison to what we thought we'd have if Huggins was the coach, it will probably be a drop off.  How much, who knows?

[chum1]

One factor to keep in mind is that Huggins very well may never have had a top ten class again - maybe not even a top twenty.  We all know why this year's class is #1.

[steve dave]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

Disappointed compared to what?  Asbury recruiting?  Wooly recruiting?  I wish people would quit acting like our program has just been raking in the McD's AA over the past 20 years.  If all we end up with are 4* and 3* players with a 5* every other year, count me as not disappointed. 

Yeah, in comparison to what we thought we'd have if Huggins was the coach, it will probably be a drop off.  How much, who knows?

I will be very happy if that is how our recruiting classes turn out.  I think that is what Huggin's classes would look like as well had he stayed.  This one was huge because he had been working on it for so long.  I don't see the future of our recruiting looking as rosy but it won't be as bad as the Wooly/Asbury years.  

[sys]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

I think we'll see.  It all depends on how the team does next season and how Beasley and Walker do in the draft.

i very much agree.  beasley/walker will pretty much make or break martin/hill over the next year or two.

there have been other youthful "recruiters" that have ridden a star player to become national players in recruiting.

[michigancat]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

Disappointed compared to what?  Asbury recruiting?  Wooly recruiting?  I wish people would quit acting like our program has just been raking in the McD's AA over the past 20 years.  If all we end up with are 4* and 3* players with a 5* every other year, count me as not disappointed. 

Yeah, in comparison to what we thought we'd have if Huggins was the coach, it will probably be a drop off.  How much, who knows?

Great point.  I think people would have been disappointed in Huggins recruiting if he had stayed.  They'd expect GRCOAT year in and year out, which all rational people knew wasn't going to happen.

[pissclams]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

Disappointed compared to what?  Asbury recruiting?  Wooly recruiting?  I wish people would quit acting like our program has just been raking in the McD's AA over the past 20 years.  If all we end up with are 4* and 3* players with a 5* every other year, count me as not disappointed. 

Yeah, in comparison to what we thought we'd have if Huggins was the coach, it will probably be a drop off.  How much, who knows?

Did we hire a pair of coachs or recruiters?   
All of the talk is that we hired Martin and Hill, two well known recruiters to salvage this year's class and take us forward, and they will be able to take us forward because of their remarkable recruiting ability.  My point is that they won't be recruiting crap past next year.  Look what happened to our Spring late signers we had lined up in Martin and Evans.  Both have already moved on.  As close to KSU as both were, and supposedly having been recruited by our top recruiters, they've already shifted their focus away from K-State sans Huggins.  Simply put Hill nor Martin have deep enough connections to land anyone on the current 2008 radar-



Sorry if that hurts your feelings.  We'd be doing great to land 3* 4* talent going forward, ain't gonna happen.

Comparing Bozeman to Martin/Hill needs to cease.

[fatty fat fat]

No Sh1t.

[catzacker]

Clearly the best choice would have been to hire another coach who couldn't pull in good recruits in the future and then completely wipe out any and all chance of keeping next year's class. 

[michigancat]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

Disappointed compared to what?  Asbury recruiting?  Wooly recruiting?  I wish people would quit acting like our program has just been raking in the McD's AA over the past 20 years.  If all we end up with are 4* and 3* players with a 5* every other year, count me as not disappointed. 

Yeah, in comparison to what we thought we'd have if Huggins was the coach, it will probably be a drop off.  How much, who knows?

Did we hire a pair of coachs or recruiters?   
All of the talk is that we hired Martin and Hill, two well known recruiters to salvage this year's class and take us forward, and they will be able to take us forward because of their remarkable recruiting ability.  My point is that they won't be recruiting **($ past next year.  Look what happened to our Spring late signers we had lined up in Martin and Evans.  Both have already moved on.  As close to KSU as both were, and supposedly having been recruited by our top recruiters, they've already shifted their focus away from K-State sans Huggins.  Simply put Hill nor Martin have deep enough connections to land anyone on the current 2008 radar-

Are you saying Martin and Hill won't be able to recruit because of Tyree Evans?

I'll go ahead and see how things play out before I emphatically declare that we won't be able to land 3 star players.

[ksuno1stunner]

We have room for an assistant I believe.

[pissclams]

We're going to be disappointed to see how Martin & Hill recruit without having Bob Huggins behind them.

Disappointed compared to what?  Asbury recruiting?  Wooly recruiting?  I wish people would quit acting like our program has just been raking in the McD's AA over the past 20 years.  If all we end up with are 4* and 3* players with a 5* every other year, count me as not disappointed. 

Yeah, in comparison to what we thought we'd have if Huggins was the coach, it will probably be a drop off.  How much, who knows?

Did we hire a pair of coachs or recruiters?   
All of the talk is that we hired Martin and Hill, two well known recruiters to salvage this year's class and take us forward, and they will be able to take us forward because of their remarkable recruiting ability.  My point is that they won't be recruiting **($ past next year.  Look what happened to our Spring late signers we had lined up in Martin and Evans.  Both have already moved on.  As close to KSU as both were, and supposedly having been recruited by our top recruiters, they've already shifted their focus away from K-State sans Huggins.  Simply put Hill nor Martin have deep enough connections to land anyone on the current 2008 radar-

Are you saying Martin and Hill won't be able to recruit because of Tyree Evans?

I'll go ahead and see how things play out before I emphatically declare that we won't be able to land 3 star players.

No.

Clearly the best choice would have been to hire another coach who couldn't pull in good recruits in the future and then completely wipe out any and all chance of keeping next year's class. 

There was no good choice, maybe soon you'll realize just how hard Huggins screwed us.

[fatty fat fat]

I agree with piss, but could we please enjoy this upcoming year?

[catzacker]

No.

Clearly the best choice would have been to hire another coach who couldn't pull in good recruits in the future and then completely wipe out any and all chance of keeping next year's class. 

There was no good choice, maybe soon you'll realize just how hard Huggins screwed us.

So what does it matter?
(1) If we hire some mid major coach/assistant BCS coach, he won't be able to recruit.  
(2) If we never hired Huggins in the first place, see (1)

WTF?  Just quit Men's Basketball.