we were so spoiled

[fatty fat fat]

Even though last night was disappointing, I don't think it's the end of the world. Kansas State will bounce back next year and go for the Big XII Championship once again.

However, I think it's fair to question some of KSU's coaching decisions (and, by the way, I think we can question the coaches because of a simple fact: football isn't rocket science). The good news is, Jarrod Cooper won't be back next year. Don't get me wrong, Cooper is a great kid and a hard hitter, but he's completely ineffective in pass coverage. He was burned in last night's game the same he was burned by Wistrom in Lincoln last year. I find it strange that Bennett didn't at least give Proctor or Yates a chance to cover OU's tight end, perhaps they didn't prepare for that in the two weeks preceding the game. But, good grief, all Heupel did last night was toss wounded ducks in the air over Cooper's head.

With the exception of Cooper though, K-State's defense was awesome!! We cannot expect any more out of the D than we got last night: they made the tackles, they held on third down, they were in Heupel's face all night, they did it all. By the way, does anyone think Butler might be an All-American next year?

The offense, however, is another story. I think it's a very legitimate argument to call for a new offensive coordinator. What good is it to have skilled players like Shad Meier, Quincy Morgan, Aaron Lockett, and David Allen if you can't get the ball to them? K-State's offense is great when they play the bad teams (North Texas, Ball State) or middle of the pack teams (Iowa State, Colorado), but in big games the offense just doesn't come through. Plain and simple. Look at Nebraska last year, Oklahoma both times this year, Texas A&M this year, Washington last year, and Nebraska this year. In all of those games, how many sustained drives can you remember? Most of the points KSU gets in those games comes by a big special teams play or a big defensive play.

On the bright side of things, Beasley won't be back next year. Like Cooper, he's a great kid, hard worker, and a student of the game. But he's an inconsistent passer and poor decision maker. Why does he continue to change the play at the line of scrimmage every single time when most of the time those plays don't work? I think Roberson, if he is the starter next year, will run the option play more effectively and hopefully he can get the ball to Aaron. And, even when the right play is called, Beasley can rarely deliver the ball.

Whoever is responsible for the continuous poor performance of the offense, one thing is clear: SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE. I would love to get a liberal offensive coordinator who would be willing to let K-State's talent take over instead of the rigid, slow, and predictable scheme that is in place now.

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keep in mind, we had just lost to the eventual national champs.....by 3 points.

[mjrod]

Yeah, we were spoiled.

 

[ksuno1stunner]

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(10) TEXAS A&M 36, (1) KANSAS ST 33 (2 OT)
------------------------------------------

ST. LOUIS (Ticker) -- Texas A&M has turned the race for the
national championship into a free-for-all.

Branndon Stewart connected with running back Sirr Parker on a
32-yard touchdown pass in the second overtime to lift the
10th-ranked Aggies to a shocking 36-33 victory over No. 1 Kansas
State in the Big 12 Conference championship game.

Kansas State blew the opening for a shot in the national
championship game created when, just hours before, UCLA fell at
Miami.  The Wildcats (11-1) had been third in the Bowl
Championship Series (BCS) standings, and the top two teams in
those rankings play in the Fiesta Bowl in Arizona on January
4th.

Martin Gramatica connected on a 25-yard field to begin the
second overtime and give Kansas State a 33-30 lead.  The Aggies
proceeded to lose two yards on their first play of the ensuing
possession and were faced with a 3rd-and-17 after a penalty.
But Stewart threw a screen pass to Parker, who shook off Luke
Butler, beat Lamar Chapman and raced to the right corner of the
end zone, barely crossing the goal line with the football for
the winning score.

Stewart also threw two fourth-quarter touchdown passes for Texas
A&M (11-2), which rallied from a 15-point deficit in the final
9:20 of regulation.  The Aggies, who won their first league
crown since claiming the old Southwest Conference title in 1993,
will play in either the Sugar Bowl on New Year's night or the
Orange Bowl the next evening as Big 12 champions.

Kansas State (11-1), which 10 years ago was 0-11, had its
19-game winning streak snapped and failed in its attempt for its
first conference title since claiming the Big Six championship
in 1934.



   BCS RACE: WATCH OUT, TENNESSEE
    

By Stewart Mandel
ABC Sports Online

The BCS Standings have been coming out every Monday since late October, but for the teams at the top -- Tennessee, UCLA and Kansas State -- this week is what it's all about. The Volunteers stand a mere .04 ahead of UCLA, with K-State just over a point behind them, heading into the undefeated trio's final games on Saturday. The question on everyone's minds is: What happens if all three win?

It's exactly a situation like this for which the BCS formula was created: to objectively select the two best teams. Regardless, controversy is sure to stir if someone gets left out. For the better portion of the season, the Wildcats have been the undefeated team on the outside looking in, thanks to a weaker non-conference schedule compared with UCLA and Tennessee. However, K-State's BCS strength-of-schedule rating has jumped from 88th to 62nd since playing Nebraska and Missouri, and many -- including computer guru Jeff Sagarin -- think it could jump enough to pass the Bruins or Vols after Saturday's game with BCS No. 8-ranked Texas A&M. UCLA's remaining opponent, Miami, looks much less impressive on paper after its 66-13 thrashing at the hands of Syracuse last week, and Tennessee has landed unheralded Mississippi State rather than BCS No. 13 Arkansas.

Then again, teams could lose Saturday and shake-up everything. At least that's what one-loss contenders Florida State and Ohio State are hoping. Regardless, the entire bowl picture will be decided in less than a week.

Here are ABC Sports Online's projections for the four BCS bowls and 18 others, based on games played through Nov. 28 and the Nov. 30 BCS Standings. For the purposes of these projections, current first-place teams Kansas State (Big 12) and Tennessee (SEC) are considered as their conference's BCS participant. These projections are ONLY speculation at this point; official pairings will be announced on Dec. 6.
(*) - team has already accepted its bowl bid.

Tostitos Fiesta: Tennessee (BCS No. 1) vs. UCLA (BCS No. 2)
Rose presented by AT&T: Wisconsin (BCS Big Ten) vs. Arizona (BCS at-large)
Nokia Sugar: Kansas State (BCS Big 12) vs. Ohio State (BCS at-large)
FedEx Orange: Florida State (BCS ACC) vs. Syracuse (BCS Big East)
Southwestern Bell Cotton: Texas (Big 12 No. 2) vs. Arkansas (SEC Nos. 3-5)
CompUSA Florida Citrus: Florida (SEC No. 2) vs. Michigan (Big Ten No. 2)
Outback: Penn State (Big Ten No. 3) vs. Georgia (SEC Nos. 3-5)
Toyota Gator: Notre Dame (in place of Big East No. 2)* vs. Georgia Tech (ACC No. 2)*
Chick fil-A Peach: Virginia (ACC No. 3)* vs. Kentucky (SEC Nos. 3-5)
Culligan Holiday: Nebraska (Big 12 No. 3) vs. Oregon (Pac-10 No. 2)
Builders Square Alamo: Purdue (Big Ten No. 4) vs. Texas A&M (Big 12 No. 4)
Norwest Sun: USC (Pac-10 No. 3) vs. Miami, Fla. (in place of Big Ten No. 5)
Insight.com: Missouri (Big 12 No. 5) vs. West Virginia (Big East No. 2)*
Sanford Independence: Mississippi State (SEC Nos. 6-7) vs. Texas Tech (Big 12 No. 5)
Music City: Alabama (SEC Nos. 6-7) vs. Virginia Tech (at-large)
AXA/Equity Liberty: Tulane (C-USA champ)* vs. BYU (at-large)*
Micron PC: N.C. State (ACC No. 4)* vs. Central Florida (in place of Big Ten No. 6)
Jeep Aloha: Washington (Pac-10 No. 4)* vs. Colorado (at-large)*
Jeep Oahu: North Carolina (at-large) vs. Air Force (WAC at-large)*
Humanitarian: Southern Miss (C-USA No. 2)* vs. Idaho (Big West champ)*
Motor City: Marshall or Toledo (MAC Champ) vs. Louisville (at-large)*
Las Vegas: Mississippi (at-large) vs. San Diego State (WAC No. 3)*



CONFERENCE STANDINGS: NORTH
       CONFERENCE     OVERALL
     NAME    W    L    T    PF    PA    W    L    T    PF    PA
1.    KANSAS ST    8    1    0    375    146    11    1    0    576    160
2.    NEBRASKA    5    3    0    210    139    9    3    0    383    183
3.    MISSOURI    5    3    0    214    156    7    4    0    300    205
4.    COLORADO    4    4    0    155    169    7    4    0    251    210
5.    KANSAS    1    7    0    155    269    4    7    0    280    341
6.    IOWA ST    1    7    0    135    288    3    8    0    221    328

CONFERENCE STANDINGS: SOUTH
       CONFERENCE     OVERALL
     NAME    W    L    T    PF    PA    W    L    T    PF    PA
1.    TEXAS A&M    8    1    0    227    145    11    2    0    321    190
2.    TEXAS    6    2    0    243    220    8    3    0    399    326
3.    TEXAS TECH    4    4    0    198    189    7    4    0    297    220
4.    OKLAHOMA    3    5    0    125    198    5    6    0    184    229
5.    OKLAHOMA ST    3    5    0    197    218    5    6    0    303    296
6.    BAYLOR    1    7    0    142    239    2    9    0    195    323



 

[ksuno1stunner]

But then again there are the good times:

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[jeffy]

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Stunner,

You have just violated the #1 rule of KState etiquette.  This is "The Game Which Shall Never Be Mentioned."

 

[fatty fat fat]

Seriously, read the link.

You'd think we just lost to a 4-7 ku team or something.

Not the 2000 national champs.

[coitus]

beaz + hudson = 400 yards & 40 points per game.

and folks complained.  they later became woolites.  and have always beat off to the si swimsuit issue.

[mjrod]

Seriously, read the link.

You'd think we just lost to a 4-7 ku team or something.

Not the 2000 national champs.

At the time, no one thought OU would win the NC.