Non-Con Sched

[KSUFansPoster495028]

Preseason Rankings of Non-Con according to Rivals

Loyola Chicago #258
Western Illinois #311
Boston #111

Indiana #126
or
Ole Miss #35

Other Teams in PR Tip-Off
Dayton #22
Georgia Tech #25
George Mason #110
Villanova #9 (Sporting News, Rivals hasn't ranked yet)

IUPUI #170
Fort Hays State
Washington State #44
Xavier #32
UNLV #58
Alabama #106
Arkansas-Pine Bluff #202
Cleveland State #143
South Dakota #270

Thoughts?

[ksu_FAN]

You can eliminate FHSU, it really doesn't count anyway.  Basically another exhibition.

Overall, very solid, especially if we can make the Championship game in PR.  Key thing is that only four of those teams end up >200 in the RPI and only one >300, those really kill you.  Last year we had six >200 and two >300.

Then the possibility of 5 OOC games against <100 teams.  Last year we only had 2.  Of course if we do have 5, it would be good to win at least 3 of those, if not 4. 

That's set up to be a solid OOC schedule, probably top 100 or better.

[Dick Knewheizel]

Preseason Rankings of Non-Con according to Rivals

Loyola Chicago #258
Western Illinois #311
Boston #111

Indiana #126
or
Ole Miss #35

Other Teams in PR Tip-Off
Dayton #22
Georgia Tech #25
George Mason #110
Villanova #9 (Sporting News, Rivals hasn't ranked yet)

IUPUI #170
Fort Hays State
Washington State #44
Xavier #32
UNLV #58
Alabama #106
Arkansas-Pine Bluff #202
Cleveland State #143
South Dakota #270

Thoughts?

Should be higher

LOL at Dayton and GaTech ratings

[treysolid]

'bama should have an RPI lower than 100 by the time we play them (Tony Mitchell-Andrew Steele-JaMychal Green).

[steve dave]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

[ksu_FAN]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

[steve dave]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

 

[KSUFansPoster495028]

i'm just excited we get to play oohey poohey

[WillieWannabe]

You can eliminate FHSU, it really doesn't count anyway.  Basically another exhibition.

Overall, very solid, especially if we can make the Championship game in PR.  Key thing is that only four of those teams end up >200 in the RPI and only one >300, those really kill you.  Last year we had six >200 and two >300.

Then the possibility of 5 OOC games against <100 teams.  Last year we only had 2.  Of course if we do have 5, it would be good to win at least 3 of those, if not 4. 

That's set up to be a solid OOC schedule, probably top 100 or better.

I think losing Iowa, Kentucky, and Oregon(??) in that 3 game stretch was what killed us, to most people anyway. Losing to 3 BCS schools in our OOC schedule didn't look very good, no matter what their RPI was.

[ksu_FAN]

Another way to look at it: last year's final RPI.  (granted, things can change a lot from year to year)

Loyola Chicago #166
Western Illinois #328
Boston #158

Indiana #211
or
Ole Miss #83

Other Teams in PR Tip-Off
Dayton #27
Georgia Tech #142
George Mason #53
Villanova #8

IUPUI #242
Washington State #89
Xavier #15
UNLV #72
Alabama #109
Arkansas-Pine Bluff #251
Cleveland State #55
South Dakota #284

[Jeffrey_Martin]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

Watch yourself on the "even Boston U should be decent" comment. That's my alma mater, and you can rest assured I'll be insufferable around this board when that game is played. Truth is, the Terriers' backcourt is only a little worse than K-State's. John Holland is nasty. Corey Lowe is a loose cannon, but if gets hot, watch out. Tyler Morris is a driveway shooter who played high school basketball with Greg Oden - yep, that's the best I've got on him. But BU has a new coach, Pat Chambers, who was an assistant under Jay Wright at 'Nova. I expect K-State to win, but the Terriers will make it closer than most think...

[steve dave]

driveway shooter

^Jeffrey Martin's favorite description

[pissclams]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

Watch yourself on the "even Boston U should be decent" comment. That's my alma mater, and you can rest assured I'll be insufferable around this board when that game is played. Truth is, the Terriers' backcourt is only a little worse than K-State's. John Holland is nasty. Corey Lowe is a loose cannon, but if gets hot, watch out. Tyler Morris is a driveway shooter who played high school basketball with Greg Oden - yep, that's the best I've got on him. But BU has a new coach, Pat Chambers, who was an assistant under Jay Wright at 'Nova. I expect K-State to win, but the Terriers will make it closer than most think...

how many points do you want?  the winner of the bet wins a lap dance in vegas (not from the loser).

[ksu_FAN]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

Watch yourself on the "even Boston U should be decent" comment. That's my alma mater, and you can rest assured I'll be insufferable around this board when that game is played. Truth is, the Terriers' backcourt is only a little worse than K-State's. John Holland is nasty. Corey Lowe is a loose cannon, but if gets hot, watch out. Tyler Morris is a driveway shooter who played high school basketball with Greg Oden - yep, that's the best I've got on him. But BU has a new coach, Pat Chambers, who was an assistant under Jay Wright at 'Nova. I expect K-State to win, but the Terriers will make it closer than most think...

Thanks J-Mart.  I expected that with an RPI as low as they had last year, the had to be decent.  I didn't know who they had back, but with 2 good guards, that sounds like a good challenge in the first game, and hopefully a good RPI game for the Cats.

[catzacker]

If Frank doesn't try to prove points in the non-con, then we'll be okay.  The non-con is good enough that a decent showing in conference (6 or above) and we're an absolute lock.  If Frank wants to try to prove points, then we will again put all of our eggs into the conference basket. 

[Pete]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

Watch yourself on the "even Boston U should be decent" comment. That's my alma mater, and you can rest assured I'll be insufferable around this board when that game is played. Truth is, the Terriers' backcourt is only a little worse than K-State's. John Holland is nasty. Corey Lowe is a loose cannon, but if gets hot, watch out. Tyler Morris is a driveway shooter who played high school basketball with Greg Oden - yep, that's the best I've got on him. But BU has a new coach, Pat Chambers, who was an assistant under Jay Wright at 'Nova. I expect K-State to win, but the Terriers will make it closer than most think...

OMG, were you there when lsoc was there?   

[Jeffrey_Martin]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

Watch yourself on the "even Boston U should be decent" comment. That's my alma mater, and you can rest assured I'll be insufferable around this board when that game is played. Truth is, the Terriers' backcourt is only a little worse than K-State's. John Holland is nasty. Corey Lowe is a loose cannon, but if gets hot, watch out. Tyler Morris is a driveway shooter who played high school basketball with Greg Oden - yep, that's the best I've got on him. But BU has a new coach, Pat Chambers, who was an assistant under Jay Wright at 'Nova. I expect K-State to win, but the Terriers will make it closer than most think...

OMG, were you there when lsoc was there?   

I don't think so, but who knows?

[bam8485]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

 Crean cleaned house and then had back to back great recruiting classes.  Indiana should be a very much improved.

[pissclams]

SD LBBIQ COMMENT ALERT:  Looks like that PR tourney is going to make or break us.  If we lay an egg and only play the bottom 3 teams in that we really hurt ourselves.

Not really.  The good thing is there are no aweful teams in the tournament.  Even Boston U should be decent.  The worst team last year was Indiana, and with Crean as coach they should be improved.  So we shouldn't face anyone there with an RPI >150 and probably should have 2 games against <100 teams.  As long as we win the first round, we'll be in good shape.

Watch yourself on the "even Boston U should be decent" comment. That's my alma mater, and you can rest assured I'll be insufferable around this board when that game is played. Truth is, the Terriers' backcourt is only a little worse than K-State's. John Holland is nasty. Corey Lowe is a loose cannon, but if gets hot, watch out. Tyler Morris is a driveway shooter who played high school basketball with Greg Oden - yep, that's the best I've got on him. But BU has a new coach, Pat Chambers, who was an assistant under Jay Wright at 'Nova. I expect K-State to win, but the Terriers will make it closer than most think...

how many points do you want?  the winner of the bet wins a lap dance in vegas (not from the loser).