When does ku thank us??

[HawkFanactic]

Sure . . . but when you take into account that K-State was 9-55-2 (.136) in its previous 6 years before Snyder's arrival, and ku was 25-42 (.373) in the 6 years prior to Mangino.   Well, you're a squawk and you never see the point.   Plus, I added it at one time, and I believe that Terry Allen played 3 times as many ranked teams during his 1st 5 years at ku, than Mangino played during his 1st five years, and the biggest difference of all was the ranked teams from the North. 

DUDE, GIVE THE frack uP!!!! As much as you try to spew facts in your favor, as much as you get red in the face trying to defend the precious school you NEVER even went to, as much as you try telling people you been laid by other girls besides your friend's grandmother (pssst, fyi, she's your grandmother too) There's ALWAYS stipulations, right? There's always a little asterisk, right? Dax, you are lame sauce. So, because Snyder came to a more down program, that means that even though they have the same record, Snyder's is better? Admit it, you are in fear. You see that Mangino is comparing to /snyder and you see where that is going. That is the ONLY reason you guys brought Snyder back. You guys KNOW you are irrelevant in BB, but FB? No, that can never happen. That would only make K State irrelevant in general....

No one knows who K State is without FB. yeah, you are those guys that had beasley, but really? That guy crashed and burned faster than the Hindenburg. K state is doing EVERYTHING wrong to become important. Maybe soon, there won't be a KSU at all. I mean, it isn't like any "alumni" actually donate to KSU, being farmers and all. So, stay purple Dax, its the only thing you got  

I never went to K-State??  

Nice meltdown . . . you keep that up and you're going to replace Ben at the top of the Meltdown Charts.

Nice comeback, do you have anything better to say than I'm having a meltdown? I'm on top of the WORLD right now. It's not a meltdown, it's more of a melt UP. Keep trying though. You get pwned and call it a meltdown. So sad. 

[fatty fat fat]

you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now.  So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.

Snyder 46 - 33 - 1.  Conf record 22 - 26 - 1

Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W

Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)

Now, Mangino after year 7

Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34

Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W

Highest Division finish T1

I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you?  We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.

Mangino is 43-31 (22-26) when you take away the 2-10 season that was a direct result of Terry Allen's inability to recruit and/or coach.

or he's 15-33 when you talk out his fluke year. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Fanatic . . . Bill Snyder walked into the worst football program in the country, this is beyond question.   Mark Mangino walked into a situation that wasn't great, but was no where near the worst football program in the country.   Bill Snyder didn't get to avoid the power teams in the conference every two years.   Bill Snyder NEVER went two full seasons as Mark Mangino did and only played 1 final top 25 team during the regular season.  Snyder played the National Champion 3 times in his first 6 years at K-State, he played a national championship game participant 5 times in his first 6 years at K-State. 

Terry Allen played games against 3x's as many ranked opponents during his 5 years at ku, than Mark Mangino did during his first 5 years at ku.   Terry Allen inherited a program that all but been abandoned by Glen Mason for nearly 18-24 months.   Mason didn't give a f_ck anymore about ku and it showed, and his not giving a f_ck about ku started nearly 2 years prior when ku "fans" wouldn't even fill up a stadium for a nationally ranked team and he tried to bail before ku's Aloha Bowl game.   So all of this blather about how things weren't that bad when Terry Allen took over at ku is just a bunch of typical ku revisionism.  Mark Mangino walked in the door of a program that had won 40% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . Snyder walked in the door of a program that had won 15-20% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . in the previous 30 games prior to Snyder at K-State, K-State won . . . NONE OF THEM, 0-29-1 (.000).  ku was 11-19 in its previous 30 games prior to Mangino (.366). 

Like I always say, this is not difficult to understand. 

Plus, I never said Mangino isn't doing a good job, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the job Snyder did at K-State, not yet.

[Babytears]

The powercats are kinda like MC Hammer.  Had some good years.  Probably quite a few good memories.  But their sh1t sure went down the tubes in a hurry.

Who knows, Hammer may make a huge comeback, but I totally doubt it.  2 legit 2 quit = emaw.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

The powercats are kinda like MC Hammer.  Had some good years.  Probably quite a few good memories.  But their sh1t sure went down the tubes in a hurry.

Who knows, Hammer may make a huge comeback, but I totally doubt it.  2 legit 2 quit = emaw.

That would make ku Vanilla Ice

Ice, ICe baby = 2007

[Babytears]

Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see.  Can't time travel, guy.  Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon.  Don't know yet.

One thing is for sure, though:  KSU = Hammer

[MadCat]

The powercats are kinda like MC Hammer.  Had some good years.  Probably quite a few good memories.  But their sh1t sure went down the tubes in a hurry.

Who knows, Hammer may make a huge comeback, but I totally doubt it.  2 legit 2 quit = emaw.

That would make ku Vanilla Ice

Ice, ICe baby = 2007

BURNED...I mean, "Too cold".

[sonofdaxjones]

Well Mangino just might be who then . . . somewhat meteoric rise, plays the big arenas one season, then album sales drop, everybody waiting on the next album hoping it recaptures former glory . . . music execs and agents tense and filled with angst, original members of the band gone . . . high expectations.

[Babytears]

Could be worse.  Could be the KSU.  At least there's a chance.

[j@yh@wks]

Fanatic . . . Bill Snyder walked into the worst football program in the country, this is beyond question.   Mark Mangino walked into a situation that wasn't great, but was no where near the worst football program in the country.   Bill Snyder didn't get to avoid the power teams in the conference every two years.   Bill Snyder NEVER went two full seasons as Mark Mangino did and only played 1 final top 25 team during the regular season.  Snyder played the National Champion 3 times in his first 6 years at K-State, he played a national championship game participant 5 times in his first 6 years at K-State. 

Terry Allen played games against 3x's as many ranked opponents during his 5 years at ku, than Mark Mangino did during his first 5 years at ku.   Terry Allen inherited a program that all but been abandoned by Glen Mason for nearly 18-24 months.   Mason didn't give a f_ck anymore about ku and it showed, and his not giving a f_ck about ku started nearly 2 years prior when ku "fans" wouldn't even fill up a stadium for a nationally ranked team and he tried to bail before ku's Aloha Bowl game.   So all of this blather about how things weren't that bad when Terry Allen took over at ku is just a bunch of typical ku revisionism.  Mark Mangino walked in the door of a program that had won 40% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . Snyder walked in the door of a program that had won 15-20% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . in the previous 30 games prior to Snyder at K-State, K-State won . . . NONE OF THEM, 0-29-1 (.000).  ku was 11-19 in its previous 30 games prior to Mangino (.366). 

Like I always say, this is not difficult to understand. 

Plus, I never said Mangino isn't doing a good job, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the job Snyder did at K-State, not yet.

I believe you said "why does a guy that only wins 36% of conference games still coaching".  you do know that 11-19 is not that good right. You do remember the toilet bowl?  I know this, when Mangino leaves we won't replace him with a coach like Prince.  No way.

[sonofdaxjones]

No, I think I said guys with that kind of record shouldn't make Top coaching lists . . . or at least to best of my recollection that's what I said.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see.  Can't time travel, guy.  Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon.  Don't know yet.

One thing is for sure, though:  KSU = Hammer

We already know what happened in 2008.  Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.

[cyclist]

So when does ku thank us for actually starting to give a frank about football??

Simple answer.  They don't.  Pretty classy, I'd say !

                                 

[Babytears]

Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see.  Can't time travel, guy.  Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon.  Don't know yet.

One thing is for sure, though:  KSU = Hammer

We already know what happened in 2008.  Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.

But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...


OK.  How about this?

Imagine you went all of your life without a dick.  It would suck pretty bad.  BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it.  And then one day you sprout a dick.  A glorious one.  And its awesome.  You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere.  Good times.  The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while.  Did quite a bit of humping.  Quality, quantity, all that jazz.  But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago.  And it ain't gonna grow back.  So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.

emaw.

[CrimsonBlue]

Fanatic . . . Bill Snyder walked into the worst football program in the country, this is beyond question.   Mark Mangino walked into a situation that wasn't great, but was no where near the worst football program in the country.   Bill Snyder didn't get to avoid the power teams in the conference every two years.   Bill Snyder NEVER went two full seasons as Mark Mangino did and only played 1 final top 25 team during the regular season.  Snyder played the National Champion 3 times in his first 6 years at K-State, he played a national championship game participant 5 times in his first 6 years at K-State. 

Terry Allen played games against 3x's as many ranked opponents during his 5 years at ku, than Mark Mangino did during his first 5 years at ku.   Terry Allen inherited a program that all but been abandoned by Glen Mason for nearly 18-24 months.   Mason didn't give a f_ck anymore about ku and it showed, and his not giving a f_ck about ku started nearly 2 years prior when ku "fans" wouldn't even fill up a stadium for a nationally ranked team and he tried to bail before ku's Aloha Bowl game.   So all of this blather about how things weren't that bad when Terry Allen took over at ku is just a bunch of typical ku revisionism.  Mark Mangino walked in the door of a program that had won 40% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . Snyder walked in the door of a program that had won 15-20% of its games in the previous 6 or 7 years . . . in the previous 30 games prior to Snyder at K-State, K-State won . . . NONE OF THEM, 0-29-1 (.000).  ku was 11-19 in its previous 30 games prior to Mangino (.366). 

Like I always say, this is not difficult to understand. 

Plus, I never said Mangino isn't doing a good job, but it doesn't come anywhere close to the job Snyder did at K-State, not yet.

MELTDOWN!!!!

[nicname]

Am I the only onw who doesn't think it would have been much different?  ku has always had an average to slightly below average football program.  There were highs with Glen Mason in the early 90's, a few banner years in the late 40's and early fifties, the 68' Orange Bowl, and now the later side of Mangino's run. 

In between ku football has been average at best and reaching paltry levels in the mid-late 80's and under Terry Allen. 

They have had a few real standouts over the years with players like Sayers, Riggins etc as would be the case with many schools, but have never had any real sustained success. 

Up until the Mangino era ku had gone to only 8 Bowl games in over 50 years.  Of course it is much easier to get  bowl bid these days and other than the 11-1 team many ku teams have been on par with the other "successful" Mangino squads.

So I don't really think KSU being good for a little over a decade had much to do with them being good.  In fact I think it may have been just the opposite. 

ku will continue to be an average football program with occaisional flashes of greatness or complete ineptitude. 

[The42Yardstick]

Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see.  Can't time travel, guy.  Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon.  Don't know yet.

One thing is for sure, though:  KSU = Hammer

We already know what happened in 2008.  Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.

But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...


OK.  How about this?

Imagine you went all of your life without a dick.  It would suck pretty bad.  BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it.  And then one day you sprout a dick.  A glorious one.  And its awesome.  You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere.  Good times.  The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while.  Did quite a bit of humping.  Quality, quantity, all that jazz.  But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago.  And it ain't gonna grow back.  So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.

emaw.

[Babytears]

 

[catdude33]

Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see.  Can't time travel, guy.  Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon.  Don't know yet.

One thing is for sure, though:  KSU = Hammer

We already know what happened in 2008.  Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.

But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...


OK.  How about this?

Imagine you went all of your life without a dick.  It would suck pretty bad.  BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it.  And then one day you sprout a dick.  A glorious one.  And its awesome.  You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere.  Good times.  The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while.  Did quite a bit of humping.  Quality, quantity, all that jazz.  But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago.  And it ain't gonna grow back.  So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.

emaw.

Better to have humped and lost than to have never humped at all.   

[HawkFanactic]

Am I the only onw who doesn't think it would have been much different?  ku has always had an average to slightly below average football program.  There were highs with Glen Mason in the early 90's, a few banner years in the late 40's and early fifties, the 68' Orange Bowl, and now the later side of Mangino's run. 

In between ku football has been average at best and reaching paltry levels in the mid-late 80's and under Terry Allen. 

They have had a few real standouts over the years with players like Sayers, Riggins etc as would be the case with many schools, but have never had any real sustained success. 

Up until the Mangino era ku had gone to only 8 Bowl games in over 50 years.  Of course it is much easier to get  bowl bid these days and other than the 11-1 team many ku teams have been on par with the other "successful" Mangino squads.

So I don't really think KSU being good for a little over a decade had much to do with them being good.  In fact I think it may have been just the opposite. 

ku will continue to be an average football program with occaisional flashes of greatness or complete ineptitude. 

BEST POST EVER!!!! At least this guy makes sense. And i feel for you, dax, losing your dick and all. That must suck.

Oh well, off to bang chicks.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see.  Can't time travel, guy.  Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon.  Don't know yet.

One thing is for sure, though:  KSU = Hammer

We already know what happened in 2008.  Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.

But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...


OK.  How about this?

Imagine you went all of your life without a dick.  It would suck pretty bad.  BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it.  And then one day you sprout a dick.  A glorious one.  And its awesome.  You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere.  Good times.  The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while.  Did quite a bit of humping.  Quality, quantity, all that jazz.  But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago.  And it ain't gonna grow back.  So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.

emaw.

Same scenario but your dick only lasted 1 year and you only nailed the easiest girls and an a tranny (Vatech)

[Thin Blue Line]

Could be true, but I'm gonna have to wait and see.  Can't time travel, guy.  Could be Van Ice, could be Dr. Octagon.  Don't know yet.

One thing is for sure, though:  KSU = Hammer

We already know what happened in 2008.  Album sales are way down Robbie, way down.

But he was still around the top forty a couple years after and still probably got a ton of tail....Anyway...


OK.  How about this?

Imagine you went all of your life without a dick.  It would suck pretty bad.  BUT, you wouldn't really know what it was like to have a dick, so you had no real frame of reference, and you could handle it.  And then one day you sprout a dick.  A glorious one.  And its awesome.  You are putting it in all sorts of people and ejaculating everywhere.  Good times.  The salad days: they're still here.
The powercats had a pretty big dick for a while.  Did quite a bit of humping.  Quality, quantity, all that jazz.  But that sh1t fell off quite a few years ago.  And it ain't gonna grow back.  So not only do you not have a dick, but you realize how bad it sucks to not have one, which makes it way worse.

emaw.

Same scenario but your dick only lasted 1 year and you only nailed the easiest girls and an a tranny (Vatech)

                               

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL at the Bentard . . . always clamoring to put the Meltdown label on someone else.

To the Bentard . . .   

[CrimsonBlue]

"Huggins was first and foremost hired because he was the coach that would likely have the earliest and greatest impact on ku. . . that was reason #1.

Look, I know that 4 years later it's easy for you K-Staters to concoct some kind of kat'pak feel good story saying that Huggins was hired because of his long and extensive history at Cincinnati, and that he was brought in to make K-State a major player in the Big 12 blah, blah, blah.  When in reality he was pretty much brought in to . . . beat ku. 

But you K-Staters like your story, and it makes you feel good.

So again, when does K-State thank ku for forcing K-State to care about basketball??  Because the other part of your kat'pak feel good story tells you that K-State officials finally came to their senses and looked at all the money they were losing out on . . . but that's just the background story.  The main story was that certain kat'pak power brokers were tired of K-State getting its ass beat by ku all the time."




 

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben . . . really sucking ass today on the board.

Pick it up Ben.

[swish1]

you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now.  So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.

Snyder 46 - 33 - 1.  Conf record 22 - 26 - 1

Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W

Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)

Now, Mangino after year 7

Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34

Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W

Highest Division finish T1

I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you?  We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.

Mangino is 43-31 (22-26) when you take away the 2-10 season that was a direct result of Terry Allen's inability to recruit and/or coach.

or he's 15-33 when you talk out his fluke year. 

i like how everyone completely ignored the logical responses.

[HawkFanactic]

you know dax, you always like to joke about Mangino's record to now.  So I thought I would see how he is doing after year 7 when compared to DB.

Snyder 46 - 33 - 1.  Conf record 22 - 26 - 1

Bowls 2-1
Copper W.
Aloha L
Holiday W

Highest Conf Finish T2 (I would say this is the same as finishing the Div T1)

Now, Mangino after year 7

Mangino 45 - 41 Conf record 22 - 34

Bowls 3 -1
Tangerine L
Fort Worth W
Orange W
Insight W

Highest Division finish T1

I think our DoD is right on schedule, don't you?  We may actually be ahead of the curve a bit.

Mangino is 43-31 (22-26) when you take away the 2-10 season that was a direct result of Terry Allen's inability to recruit and/or coach.

or he's 15-33 when you talk out his fluke year. 

i like how everyone completely ignored the logical responses.

Only logical if true. But they are not. This year will prove it.

[Babytears]

The Dick Club:


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