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u put upwards of 30 other coaches in the situation bill is in and they do as good or better. half the league doesn't give a crap about winning in basketball and with the unbalanced schedule ukans is a lock to finish in the top 2-3 every year and get a good seed out of it. you sprinkle in an ncaa that only cares about counting the dollars cbs sends their way which allows guys like self (and the school in general) to get away with whatever they want on the recruiting trail and you have one of the easiest situations to win in.
face it, self didn't do anything real special b4 ukans, and it took 5 yrs and 5 nba draft picks and a lot of cheating to finally get to the final 4 last season.
for self to prove anything to me he'll have to win w/o cheating and get to multiple final fours the next few yrs. (hell, roy went to more final 4s in his first 5 years and he started with far less in a much stronger league). doing great in the big 12 is completely meaningless, its a watered down league with little success nationally.

1. Bill Self has a higher winning percentage at ku than Roy Williams did when he was here. He's been better than any other coach in ku history. You're truly ignorant if you think 30 other coaches could just walk into ku and do what Self has done. It's not that easy to recruit and to meet the expectations at an elite school.. You want a recent example? Look at Kentucky. Look at the slump UCLA experienced during the Lavin era.
2. The Big 12 is one of the best conferences in the country, period. The past three years, the Big 12 has had the best player in the country: Durant, Beasley, and B. Griffin. No, the Big 12 isn't the Big East or even the ACC in most years, but it's a very good conference overall with a few big-time programs.
3. Reaching the Final Four isn't easy. Mizzou has never been to the Final Four in the history of their basketball program. Your expectations are insanely high if you expected Self to have multiple National Championships in his first five years at ku. So far, he's taken ku to three Elite Eights, one Final Four, and a National Championship. You can throw in multiple Big 12 conference titles on top of that.