of course this is going to be a bad season for kansas state basketball, wtf do you expect?? Theres no talent this year except a few that will increase in few years. But to the fire Martin idiotic posts, thats complete bullcrap, he has the talent coming up in few years and just watch how he will guide that. Give the guy a &@#%in break ffs! If all fails in next 3 years then go ahead and fire him but give him a chance with the talent like what he did with beasley and walker last year to make it to 2nd round of ncaa tournament