Oh and Krusty...

[fatty fat fat]

this is Wooly's best team.

Sometimes your anti-woolitesness knows no bounds.

[michigancat]

Last year's team was better:

Stewart vs. Stewart:  He didn't do anything last year, doesn't do anything this year
Peete vs. Harris:  Peete >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance
Martin vs. Martin:  If healthy, he would have been 3rd team All B12.
Hoskins vs. J-Will:  Slight edge to Hoskins
Massey vs. Diarra:  Please.


League was tougher last year.
Last year's team didn't have any great wins (ku), but it didn't have any horrible losses, either (NIU, NU).

[ksu_FAN]

IMHO, Rutgers at home and CU in Manhattan were in the same league as NIU and NU.

Nothing close to winning in ku last year.

Really can't make a true assessment yet though, everything else is pretty equal so far.

This team defends better.

The offense is better simply b/c of the new system.

Plus I don't agree who you're comparing.

Combo of Stewart and Taybron better than just Stewart.

Combo of Akeem and Lance might be slightly worse than Peete and Lance.  If Lance comes on, maybe better.  Akeem is a better defender than Peete was.

Hoskins healthy possibly better than Martin hurt last year.  Probably a draw.

Martin this year overall better than Massey IMO.  They are essentually playing the same position this year.

Diarra/Hughes just as good or better than (consistently) Williams/Hughes.


Bench with Harris, Allen, Sky, Taybron, Hughes better than essentually Harris, Hughes, Sky last year. 

If this team wins 8 or more league games I will consider them a better team that last year's group.

[michigancat]

IMHO, Rutgers at home and CU in Manhattan were in the same league as NIU and NU.

Pretty close.

Nothing close to winning in ku last year.

True.

This team defends better.

True.

The offense is better simply b/c of the new system.

The new system should have been in place last year.

Combo of Stewart and Taybron better than just Stewart.

Combo oif Stewart and Peete is better than Stewart and Taybron.

Combo of Akeem and Lance might be slightly worse than Peete and Lance.  If Lance comes on, maybe better.  Akeem is a better defender than Peete was.

Akeem is a marginally better defender, but he doesn't do us any good on the bench most of the game.  Lance vs. Peete is no contest.

Hoskins healthy possibly better than Martin hurt last year.  Probably a draw.

If you're factoring in injuries, I guess that makes sense.

Martin this year overall better than Massey IMO.  They are essentually playing the same position this year.

Massey was the 4/5 last year.  Martin is still basically a 3.  It probably would have been better to compare Hoskins to Massey.  Unless you're Jason Whitlock, there's still no contest.

Diarra/Hughes just as good or better than (consistently) Williams/Hughes.

I'd say it's a draw.  If Williams played all year like he did the last 5 or 6 games, that team is possibly dancing.

Bench with Harris, Allen, Sky, Taybron, Hughes better than essentually Harris, Hughes, Sky last year.

 

True.  I think Allen should have played more last year.

If this team wins 8 or more league games I will consider them a better team that last year's group.

We're basically on the same page.  I think 8 wins this year = 6 wins last year.

[sys]

last year's team "should have" won 8 games in a tougher league than this year's big 12.  they "should have" been a better team than this year's squad.  with a healthy martin and a happy williams all year they probably would have been a tourney team.  but, oh well.  the past is the past.  this team, whether better or worse than last year's squad, has a legit chance to be a tourney team as well.

why not wait and see if they manage to do so before trying to determine their rank among recent ksu teams.