This is what I found funny about Wooly and Mangino, in both instances, they pretty much took over the program at its rock bottom; right after an incompetent coach wrecked everything that was good about the program...so of course there will be "improvement", how could there not be? But has either program reached the level that it was prior to the previous incompetent coach(es) wrecking it? No. And in both cases, opportunities (with respect to individual games and/or the weakening conference environment) have been abound, yet results have not/did not follow.
The question isn't "have they improved" it is "what's successful". You can't just base it off of where you were, otherwise KSU football should just be happy winning 2 games a year, but at the same time you can't realistically expect 11 win seasons every year; there's maybe a handful of programs that can expect that and generally they change every 5-10 years after their coach doesn't win 11 games and the delusional fan base believes it's better than it really is (see Gary Gibbs, Frank Solich, RC Slocum, etc.). Ron Prince will have to face something similar to this when we have to decide what's "successful" in comparison to the wreck Snyder left and the DOD.
