This thread by our rival is endlessly entertaining...

[fatty fat fat]

longhorngirlie needs to die.

[ew2x4]

Something I am very interested in though..

Somehow K-state was on TV 7 times(middle of the pack in the Big XII) but received the least payout.  How the hell does that work?

They're from different years, as I understand it. The last place comes from the 2004-2005 seasons. I may be wrong, but that's what my super secret sources have stated. We should be in the top 5 this year and next.

[fatty fat fat]

it's from the 05-06 season. we went into a blackhole that year. Thanks evridge! prick.

[ew2x4]

F'ing Bobby Elliot....

[FBWillie]

phreak - I hear your frustration, but that does not answer the question I asked willie. maybe you SHOULD be the one to answer it though as you strike a reasonable tone without flames.

I don't keep track of payouts or how often a team is on TV; I would assume that Baylor is on TV the least amount.  If I'm incorrect in my assumptions, I'm big enough to admit that I was wrong.   

Maybe I don't understand how this whole deal is working, here’s my thought process, feel free to point out my mistake.

Let's just say that each school gets $10 every time they're on TV. Which I understand each school gets a different amount, but for arguments sake, humor me.

KSU's on it 3 = $30
UT's on it 6 = $60
Baylor 1 = $10

Grand total payout between the 3 schools is $100

It is split between all three for a payout of $33.33.

You get screwed, we stay nearly the same, and Baylor triples its income.   Helping put us closer to the same page and theoretically more competitive. 


Also, as for flaming; when was that? 

If I had been, I would have said something to the tune of: “You’re the asshat that thinks every school can match the donor output of Boone Pickens.” 

Honestly, do you realize how retarded that type of thinking is? 

[FBWillie]

Equal distribution of revenue would theoretically help ISU and Baylor more because they're on TV less than we are, so the difference between what they would get and what they're getting now would be larger than K-state's.

Of course, the numbers are &*$@!ed up somewhere if the Omaha World Herald is right and K-state gets the least out of the TV contracts.

or what phreak said.

[TDTexas!]

willie - follow the bouncing ball -

I suggested following the oklahoma State MODEL. Model is another word for 'example', 'to immitate', or 'comparable to'. That means that while an alumni or more likely a group of alumni from a school can contribute, the idea does not assume or suggest to copy or replicate exactly dollar for dollar the Pickens donations. Most alumni outside of a Pickens does not possess said level of coin, however the PRINCIPLE would still be the same, in that the common Joe Alumni from KSU times however many past Joe Alumni you have represent volume. 

In the real world, the point is not whether or not KSU or other chooses to follow the model. The point is that it CAN be done.

yes you did flame me above - dont blame me because you cant or wont scroll up.

[fatty fat fat]

The point is that it CAN be done.

What can be done?

Kansas State has more than showed in the 11 years of the big 12 it belongs, if you consider football to easily be priority #1.

It wasn't until 2004, till Texas passed KSU in the big 12 era.

[willie83]

willie - follow the bouncing ball -

I suggested following the oklahoma State MODEL. Model is another word for 'example', 'to immitate', or 'comparable to'. That means that while an alumni or more likely a group of alumni from a school can contribute, the idea does not assume or suggest to copy or replicate exactly dollar for dollar the Pickens donations. Most alumni outside of a Pickens does not possess said level of coin, however the PRINCIPLE would still be the same, in that the common Joe Alumni from KSU times however many past Joe Alumni you have represent volume. 

In the real world, the point is not whether or not KSU or other chooses to follow the model. The point is that it CAN be done.

yes you did flame me above - dont blame me because you cant or wont scroll up.

I would imagine that KSU and OSU had very similar "models" in terms of fund raising until T. Boone decided to drop a quarter billion in their laps. We would gladly follow that model if you know someone interested.

[TDTexas!]

willie - you appear to be a pretty good fella, but really willie, your reading/comprehension needs a bit of work, bud. no flame.

fat - 'it can be done' - paraphrasing means that over time, a group of alumni can make a difference to any football program if they have the desire and minimal volume of alumni.

Texas was the last SWC champion, the first Big12 champion, and has top winning percentage alltime in history of the Big12. So when you said '...it wasnt until 2004 that Texas passed KSU, were you alluding to head to head or representing the Big12?

[fatty fat fat]

Head 2 head....in the big 12 era of course.

Before 2004.
KSU 49-15
UT 47-17

Big 12 titles: 1-1

Bowls: 8-7 (KSU)

BCS/Alliance Bowls: 2-1 (KSU)

etc...

Remarkable, really.

[BigXIIfan]

In other words UT is extremely overrated and we get no respect anymore... damn i miss the days of snyder

[ChicoRodriguez]

God, I can't wait till the Chisholm Trail Showdown this year.  UT will really want out of the conference after we rape them again 

[BigXIIfan]

I'll settle for another W over them.  They will come out gunnin so if we come out with a W I will be REALLY happy

[willie83]

willie - you appear to be a pretty good fella, but really willie, your reading/comprehension needs a bit of work, bud. no flame.

I understand what you said, I'm just being realistic. Although KSU has plenty of alumni with large sums of money, a very small percentage of them would be willing to spend their money on sports. For OSU, they had ONE fanatical alumnus with huge amounts of cash AND is tired of losing to OU, so he is buying wins and we will all feel the pain, including you. No flame.

[Pike]

God, I can't wait till the Chisholm Trail Showdown this year.  UT will really want out of the conference after we rape them again 

Is that the new name for our rivalry with Texas? I think I like it...

[chum1]

Actually, Texas will be due for another run of mediocrity very soon.  Extended stretches in which a team is remains in the top ten year after year are very uncommon to say the least.  When this occurs, TDTexas! - if that's his real name - won't be nearly as smug as he is now.

[FBWillie]

willie - follow the bouncing ball -

I suggested following the oklahoma State MODEL. Model is another word for 'example', 'to immitate', or 'comparable to'. That means that while an alumni or more likely a group of alumni from a school can contribute, the idea does not assume or suggest to copy or replicate exactly dollar for dollar the Pickens donations. Most alumni outside of a Pickens does not possess said level of coin, however the PRINCIPLE would still be the same, in that the common Joe Alumni from KSU times however many past Joe Alumni you have represent volume. 

In the real world, the point is not whether or not KSU or other chooses to follow the model. The point is that it CAN be done.

yes you did flame me above - dont blame me because you cant or wont scroll up.

Here's my real flame.... ASSHAT, we do have Alumni donors that contribute to our facilities/scholarships etc and funding is already coming from within.  Why the &@#% do you think its called Wagner Field?  Fred Bramlage ring a bell?  Vanier family?    Why bring it up if you weren't trying to say we should match Pickens dollar for dollar... DONORS ARE ALREADY THERE.   My god you're an idiot.

[FBWillie]

Why bother with reading comprehension when we can just talk out our ass about things we dont' know @#%$ about like you?

[TDTexas!]

well I didnt come for a flame fest, so i'll be brief and out -

since you admit that you understand how it works [program growth comes from within] and you say that you do have donors, you DO understand why the by-laws were written the way they were - there  will be no MORE revenue sharing outside of current agreements [bowls, etc]. Would you pass money out on a street corner because you hear rumbles of noise in the distance?

y'all take care. youre much too wound up against reality for me and this is your site.

HOOK'EM HORNS!

[FBWillie]

  See ya later!    It was fun!

[chum1]

well I didnt come for a flame fest, so i'll be brief and out -

since you admit that you understand how it works [program growth comes from within] and you say that you do have donors, you DO understand why the by-laws were written the way they were - there  will be no MORE revenue sharing outside of current agreements [bowls, etc]. Would you pass money out on a street corner because you hear rumbles of noise in the distance?

y'all take care. youre much too wound up against reality for me and this is your site.

HOOK'EM HORNS!

Let me help you with a good starting point.  Why should we care about any of that crap?