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February 19, 2007, 12:34:02 AM
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the name is actually derived from a bunch of blood thirsty terrorists from back during the civil war and "bleeding Kansas".

Now, some demented KthUg types will tell you these were nothing but great anti-slavers, but if you do a little actual research, you'll find that the were really blood thirsty psycho/sociopaths who took great pleasure in killing for really no good reason, and just used an anti-slavery position to provide "moral" support to their murderous ways . . . thus they finally pissed off the pro-slavers in Missouri to the point that, well, Lowrents got burned to the ground.

If you want to see who the real anti-slavery people were in Kansas, then do a little research on who founded Kansas State University.


February 19, 2007, 03:00:14 AM
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This guy was a Jayhawk.


February 19, 2007, 03:00:56 AM
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blood thirsty psycho/sociopaths who took great pleasure in killing for really no good reason

No, that's not historically accurate!  The only reason there was any killing was because the slaving bushwhackers tried to interfere with all the plundering, despoiling and ravishing.  

February 19, 2007, 03:04:32 AM
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Both of you need to offer links to your claims.

February 19, 2007, 06:39:52 AM
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If Jesse James was part of Quantrill's group...the jayhawks must've been geeks.  James was the shizzle back then.  Talk about street cred...he's our version of fatty, right?

February 19, 2007, 08:33:00 AM
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The Kansas Jayhawkers and Redlegs were far more bloodthirsty than the vast majority of Quantrill's command  In addition, the innumerable atrocities committed on both sides made the guerilla armies convenient vehicles to carry out personal vengeance.
  www.civilwar.com

In addition, Quintrill's raid on Lawrence was in retaliation for Gen. Ewing placing Missouri women and children in a shaky house that collapsed and killed a number of them.

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Prior to this attack the pro-slavery farmers of Missouri had been continuously antagonized by the marrauding forces of Jim Lane and "Doc" Jennison's Jayhawkers

February 19, 2007, 01:48:50 PM
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Dax,

Get a life.

Love,

Booyah

February 19, 2007, 02:44:56 PM
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Jayhawkers/Red Legs—During the early part of the Civil war western Missouri was infested with bands of guerrillas, and it was no uncommon occurrence for some of these lawless gangs to cross the border and commit depredations in Kansas. To guard against these incursions, and otherwise to aid the Union cause, a company of border scouts was formed sometime in the year 1862. As it was an independent organization, never regularly mustered into the United States secret service, no official record of it has been preserved. The men composing the company became known as "Red Legs," from the fact that they wore leggings of red or tan-colored leather. Wilder, in his Annals of Kansas (p. 956), says it was a secret Union military society, that it was organized in June, 1862, and numbered 163 men, with George H. Hoyt as commander. John M. Dean, who was a member of the company, says it was organized in Oct., 1862. Connelley, in his Quantrill and the Border Wars, says it was organized by Gens. Ewing and Blunt for desperate service along the border, and George W. Martin, secretary of the Kansas Historical Society, in Volume XI of the Kansas Historical Collections (p. 279), says the Red Legs were organized in Dec., 1862, or Jan., 1863, and that there were never less than 50 nor more than 100 of them.

The qualifications for membership in the company were unquestioned loyalty to the Union cause, undaunted courage and the skillful use of the rifle or revolver. Their headquarters were at the "Six-mile House," so called because it was six miles from Wyandotte on the Leavenworth road. This house was erected in the winter of 1860-61 by Joseph A. Bartels, whose son, Theodore, one of the best pistol shots on the border, was a member of the Red Legs. The company was commanded by Capt. George H. Hoyt, the lawyer who defended John Brown at Charleston, Va. Other members were Jack Harvey, a brother of Fred Harvey, of Santa Fe eating house fame; William Hickok, who later became known as "Wild Bill"; Joseph B. Swain, nicknamed "Jeff Davis," afterward captain of Company K. Fifteenth Kansas; "Red" Clark, of Emporia, whom Gen. Ewing said was the best spy he ever had; John M. Dean, who has already been mentioned as one of the organizers; and W. S. Tough, for many years proprietor of the horse market at the Kansas City stock yards. Still others, of less note, were Harry Lee, Newt Morrison, Jack Hays, James Flood, Jerry Malcolm, and Charles Blunt, often called "One-eyed Blunt."

William W. Denison, assistant adjutant-general of Kansas some years after the war, was a private soldier in the Eleventh Kansas, and was one of the detail to enforce Gen. Ewing's General Order No. 11 (q. v.). On that occasion he wore the red leggings of the organization, which came to be recognized as "a badge of  service in the Union army." Ewing and Blunt, generals, usually had several of the Red Legs on their pay rolls, where they received often as much as $7 per day on account of the hazardous service they were required to render.

In course of time the term "Red Leg" became general along the border. They were generally honest and patriotic men.

Albert R. Greene, a member of the Ninth Kansas cavalry, was personally acquainted with many of the Red Legs and was also well acquainted with the nature of their service. Concerning them and their work he says: "There was not one of them but performed valuable service for the Union cause, and, so far as I know and believe, always within the rules of civilized warfare. That the organization was disbanded before the close of the war was owing more to the fact that the necessity for its existence had ceased . . . . It is enough to say for the propriety and wisdom of such an organization as the Red Legs, that it did more to protect the homes of Kansas than any regiment in the service, and was the organization of all others most dreaded by Quantrill."

Such was the character of the Red Legs—men who knew not the meaning of the word cowardice, and who left their fields and firesides to defend their homes against the irregular and predatory warfare of the guerrilla. Like the "Minute Men" of Concord and Lexington, they never hesitated to meet the invader, and when the trying conditions that called the organization into existence had passed most of the members returned to peaceful occupations and became again law-abiding citizens. It is to be regretted that, not being regularly enlisted soldiers, the complete and authentic history of the Red Legs and their deeds of heroism and daring cannot be obtained at this late day.

Pages 553-555 from volume II of Kansas: a cyclopedia of state history, embracing events, institutions, industries, counties, cities, towns, prominent persons, etc. ... / with a supplementary volume devoted to selected personal history and reminiscence. Standard Pub. Co. Chicago : 1912. 3 v. in 4. : front., ill., ports.; 28 cm. Vols. I-II edited by Frank W. Blackmar. Transcribed July 2002 by Carolyn Ward.   http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/r/red_legs.html
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February 19, 2007, 02:52:38 PM
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February 19, 2007, 02:54:04 PM
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February 19, 2007, 02:55:09 PM
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February 19, 2007, 02:57:02 PM
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February 19, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
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February 19, 2007, 03:11:09 PM
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Jim Lane murdered Gaius Jenkins a well known Free Stater/Soiler in 1858.   Doc Jennison instigated his brand of "Frontier Justice" by "trying" and hanging people he THOUGHT were pro slavers.

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James Henry Lane formed his Redlegs. Albert "Doc" Jennison formed the 7th Kansas Cavalry, "Jennison`s Jayhawkers". These two groups of men were nothing short of robbers and murderers themselves, leading raids into Missouri and burning out homes, businesses, killing residents, whether or not they were loyal to the Union.

Yep . . . fine men one and all.

As oppossed to the true anti-slavers who founded Kansas State University.




February 19, 2007, 03:25:29 PM
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The man most often identified with the moniker Kansas “jayhawker,” Charles Ransford Jennison, was born on June 6, 1834, at Antwerp, Jefferson County, New York. There he attended primary school until the family moved to Albany, Wisconsin, in 1846. While at Albany he finished secondary school, studied medicine, and after finishing the latter course of study, practiced for a short time in Wisconsin and later in Minnesota. In the fall of 1857 he decided to continue his migration westward and removed to Kansas Territory, settling first at Osawatomie and then Mound City.

Osawatomie, already identified with abolitionist John Brown, was known for its strong free-state convictions. Jennison quickly became a staunch supporter of Brown and his personal temperament toward the proslavery faction soon proved radical and strident. After moving to Mound City a short time later, Jennison associated with James Montgomery, another ardent abolitionist, and from his new home base Jennision led many a raid against the proslavery settlers and forces on both sides of the Kansas-Missouri border. All too often, indiscriminate plundering characterized these forays. And on at least two different occasions, proslavery men were hung under his direct leadership. In the case of one Russell Hinds, who was “tried” and lynched by Jennison’s posse on November 12, 1860, for capturing and returning escaped slaves to Missouri for the reward, the Kansas jayhawker made no apology. The county, according to Jennison, had “been infested by a band of desperadoes known as Kidnapers” for the past year, and it had “become necessary for us as Anti Slavery Men to take a stand against” these increasingly frequent “offences.” Thus, they publicly announced “that any man found guilty of that crime should pay . . . with his life and accordingly as we had the proof we arrested one Rus Hinds and tried him publickly and Hung him for being Engaged in that unholly business.” Convinced his position was “honorable and just,” Jennison directed his attacks against Judge Joseph Williams’ proslavery court system of the southern judicial district of Kansas Territory at Fort Scott in Bourbon County. After several free-state men had received harsh treatment from that court, Jennison raised a posse to disperse the court and forced the judge and his proslavery supporters to flee the area in dismay.

The outbreak of the Civil War merely helped legitimize Jennison’s conduct, for a short time at least, and caused him to focus his efforts on the pro-secessionist elements of Missouri. Kansas Governor Charles Robinson commissioned him captain of the Mound City Guards on February 19, 1861, and on September 4, 1861, he was commissioned lieutenant colonel of the Seventh Kansas Cavalry Regiment, soon widely known as “Jennison’s Jayhawkers.” Headquartered at Kansas City, Colonel Jennison was assigned to command the western border of Missouri and quickly adopted a “scorched earth” strategy of warfare against his Confederate enemy. He seized from the guerilla-infested territory of western Missouri the materials needed to wage war and destroyed property he could not use.

Jennison resigned his commission on May 1, 1862, and returned temporarily to civilian life, residing in Leavenworth where he owned and operated a freight hauling company. But the following year, in the wake of William Quantrill’s devastating raid on Lawrence, August 21, 1863, Kansas Governor Thomas Carney called on Jennison to raise a regiment of cavalry (later to be known as the Fifteenth) to protect the border. During the summer of 1864, Colonel Jennison made a foray into the Missouri counties of Platte and Clay against guerrillas operating there. When General Sterling Price raided along the Kansas and Missouri border in October 1864, Jennison and the Fifteenth Kansas actively engaged the Confederates at Lexington, the Little Blue, and Westport, and pursued the remnants of Price’s defeated army back into Arkansas.

Immediately thereafter, Jennison was elected to the Leavenworth city council for four years, including two years as president of the council and ex-officio mayor. In addition to various business interests, politics continued to consume much of Jennison’s attention in the post-war years. He was elected to the state house of representatives in 1865 and again in 1867, and to the state senate in 1871; on several other occasions Jennison unsuccessful sought election to the legislature. When he died at Leavenworth on June 21, 1884, it is safe to say not everyone agreed with the Hiawatha World which described “Doc” Jennison as “very brave, bright, generous, whole-souled—the warmest and truest of friends. . . . The helping friend of the needy, always and everywhere.”

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Blackmar, Frank W. Kansas: A Cyclopedia of State History . 2:27. Chicago, Ill.: Standard Publishing Co., 1912.

The United States Biographical Dictionary. Kansas Volume. Chicago, Ill.: S. Lewis and Co., 1879.

Starr, Stephen Z. Jennison’s Jayhawkers: A Civil War Cavalry Regiment and Its Commander. Baton Rouge, La.: Louisiana State University Press, 1
http://www.territorialkansasonline.org/cgiwrap/imlskto/index.php?SCREEN=bio_sketches/jennison_charles

February 19, 2007, 03:31:04 PM
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Thanks for backing me up Dale.