The HCBH factor

[catsfan20012002]

Is there a HCBH factor? If we're right on the edge on Selection Sunday does the fact that he's our coach get us in? There's a "sub regional" in Columbus, Ohio where I'm sure they wouldn't mind having us because Cincinnati people would want to come see HCBH. Is it like college football in the way that it's political like that?

[The Minister]

Yes.

[pwrcatjd49]

The question is, do we break out the black unis during the final four or wait/ hope to win and then wear them in the national championship?

[Dan Rydell]

From what I've heard, the "Huggins factor" applies mainly to the media, who love him because of the controversy.  I've heard that the selection committee has no great love for Huggs, which often plays out with him receiving unfavorable matchups in the tourney, such as being slotted against Temple an inordinate number of times within several years.

[michigancat]

From what I've heard, the "Huggins factor" applies mainly to the media, who love him because of the controversy.  I've heard that the selection committee has no great love for Huggs, which often plays out with him receiving unfavorable matchups in the tourney, such as being slotted against Temple an inordinate number of times within several years.

Didn't he get a 17-win team in?

[coitus]

last year we had one espn televised game (not counting espn+).

this year it's three, with an abc game to boot.

yeah, i'd say there's a huggins factor.

[Kat Kid]

If national perception is that we are a "dangerous team" and "road warriors" and the Big 12 gets in 5 then I think we are fine.  If we don't win any vs. Big 4 and have an average to dissapointing showing in the Big XII tourney AND national perception of the Big XII is low then we may be #5 and out or #6 and out even if Big XII national perception is decent but T-Tech or Oklahoma beat us out for the last spot.  Oklahoma's schedule gets easier down the stretch as all their road games are winnable I am really worried about them making a run and knocking us out at the end of the year.

[michigancat]

From what I've heard, the "Huggins factor" applies mainly to the media, who love him because of the controversy.  I've heard that the selection committee has no great love for Huggs, which often plays out with him receiving unfavorable matchups in the tourney, such as being slotted against Temple an inordinate number of times within several years.

"Good" wins in bold.

Didn't he get a 17-win team in?

Yeah, and they didn't even really have any good wins.  OSU maybe?

Tennessee Tech      11/23/2002    54    48     Home          -     11981
Florida A&M    11/26/2002    80    53    Home       -    10873
Dayton    11/30/2002    69    75    Away       -    13409
Valparaiso    12/02/2002    76    50    Home       -    10338
Xavier    12/07/2002    44    50    Home       -    13176
La Salle    12/14/2002    65    62    Home       -    10538
Oregon    12/17/2002    77    52    Neutral    East Rutherford, NJ    -    8867
Clemson    12/22/2002    51    58    Away       -    5000
Miami (Ohio)    12/28/2002    66    54    Home       -    14276
Chattanooga    01/02/2003    81    51    Home       -    10290
DePaul    01/08/2003    64    56    Home       -    11091
tcu    01/11/2003    83    72    Away       -    6089
Saint Louis    01/15/2003    66    56    Away       -    10403
Tulane    01/18/2003    77    54    Home       -    12690
East Carolina    01/22/2003    59    53    Away       -    6612
Charlotte    01/25/2003    83    79    Home       -    13176
DePaul    01/29/2003    52    56    Away       -    8023
Marquette    02/01/2003    76    82    Home       -    13176
Louisville    02/05/2003    71    77    Away       -    19942
Oklahoma State    02/09/2003    61    50    Home       -    13176
Charlotte    02/15/2003    64    74    Away       -    9105
Saint Louis    02/18/2003    55    58    Home       -    12232
Louisville    02/22/2003    101    80    Home       -    13176
East Carolina    02/26/2003    53    52    Home       -    12202
Memphis    03/01/2003    48    67    Away       -    20586
UAB    03/05/2003    87    70    Home       -    12524
Marquette    03/08/2003    61    70    Away       -    18790
Southern Miss.    03/12/2003    61    63    Neutral    Louisville, KY    -    9217
Gonzaga    03/20/2003    69    74    Neutral    Salt Lake City, UT    -    14378



Still got an 8 seed vs. Gonzaga.

[Dan Rydell]

Hey, it's just what I heard.  If the selection committee actually loves Huggins and will give him the nod if it comes down to it, then great.  I don't think we should bank on that, though.  KSU tends to get screwed when it comes to receiving bids based on "intangibles."

[catsfan20012002]

Well it doesn't look like Temple is getting in unless they make a run in the A-10 tournament so we should be ok then. 

[jarrr]

From what I've heard, the "Huggins factor" applies mainly to the media, who love him because of the controversy.  I've heard that the selection committee has no great love for Huggs, which often plays out with him receiving unfavorable matchups in the tourney, such as being slotted against Temple an inordinate number of times within several years.

"Good" wins in bold.

Didn't he get a 17-win team in?

Yeah, and they didn't even really have any good wins.  OSU maybe?

Tennessee Tech      11/23/2002    54    48     Home          -     11981
Florida A&M    11/26/2002    80    53    Home       -    10873
Dayton    11/30/2002    69    75    Away       -    13409
Valparaiso    12/02/2002    76    50    Home       -    10338
Xavier    12/07/2002    44    50    Home       -    13176
La Salle    12/14/2002    65    62    Home       -    10538
Oregon    12/17/2002    77    52    Neutral    East Rutherford, NJ    -    8867
Clemson    12/22/2002    51    58    Away       -    5000
Miami (Ohio)    12/28/2002    66    54    Home       -    14276
Chattanooga    01/02/2003    81    51    Home       -    10290
DePaul    01/08/2003    64    56    Home       -    11091
tcu    01/11/2003    83    72    Away       -    6089
Saint Louis    01/15/2003    66    56    Away       -    10403
Tulane    01/18/2003    77    54    Home       -    12690
East Carolina    01/22/2003    59    53    Away       -    6612
Charlotte    01/25/2003    83    79    Home       -    13176
DePaul    01/29/2003    52    56    Away       -    8023
Marquette    02/01/2003    76    82    Home       -    13176
Louisville    02/05/2003    71    77    Away       -    19942
Oklahoma State    02/09/2003    61    50    Home       -    13176
Charlotte    02/15/2003    64    74    Away       -    9105
Saint Louis    02/18/2003    55    58    Home       -    12232
Louisville    02/22/2003    101    80    Home       -    13176
East Carolina    02/26/2003    53    52    Home       -    12202
Memphis    03/01/2003    48    67    Away       -    20586
UAB    03/05/2003    87    70    Home       -    12524
Marquette    03/08/2003    61    70    Away       -    18790
Southern Miss.    03/12/2003    61    63    Neutral    Louisville, KY    -    9217
Gonzaga    03/20/2003    69    74    Neutral    Salt Lake City, UT    -    14378



Still got an 8 seed vs. Gonzaga.

Oregon was the #4 team in the country when they beat them and they blew them off the floor in the Jimmy V thing. Of course they skidded down the stretch but were still a top 25 team. I dont think that team was even considered a bubble team because they had such a hard schedule. #29 in the RPI.

http://kenpom.com/sked.php?&y=2003&team=Cincinnati

[AzCat]

KSU tends to get screwed when it comes to receiving bids based on "intangibles."

That's because it's been what, 30 years since we've had a team anyone was interested in watching?  And since the rise of the media culture we've never had a coach who was any sort of a draw much less one who can singlehandedly fill an arena to capacity at a sub-regional.  I still think we need at least 21 wins and at least one more in the Big XII tourney to make it though.

[WILDCAT NATION]

From what I've heard, the "Huggins factor" applies mainly to the media, who love him because of the controversy.  I've heard that the selection committee has no great love for Huggs, which often plays out with him receiving unfavorable matchups in the tourney, such as being slotted against Temple an inordinate number of times within several years.

"Good" wins in bold.

Didn't he get a 17-win team in?

Yeah, and they didn't even really have any good wins.  OSU maybe?

Tennessee Tech      11/23/2002    54    48     Home          -     11981
Florida A&M    11/26/2002    80    53    Home       -    10873
Dayton    11/30/2002    69    75    Away       -    13409
Valparaiso    12/02/2002    76    50    Home       -    10338
Xavier    12/07/2002    44    50    Home       -    13176
La Salle    12/14/2002    65    62    Home       -    10538
Oregon    12/17/2002    77    52    Neutral    East Rutherford, NJ    -    8867
Clemson    12/22/2002    51    58    Away       -    5000
Miami (Ohio)    12/28/2002    66    54    Home       -    14276
Chattanooga    01/02/2003    81    51    Home       -    10290
DePaul    01/08/2003    64    56    Home       -    11091
tcu    01/11/2003    83    72    Away       -    6089
Saint Louis    01/15/2003    66    56    Away       -    10403
Tulane    01/18/2003    77    54    Home       -    12690
East Carolina    01/22/2003    59    53    Away       -    6612
Charlotte    01/25/2003    83    79    Home       -    13176
DePaul    01/29/2003    52    56    Away       -    8023
Marquette    02/01/2003    76    82    Home       -    13176
Louisville    02/05/2003    71    77    Away       -    19942
Oklahoma State    02/09/2003    61    50    Home       -    13176
Charlotte    02/15/2003    64    74    Away       -    9105
Saint Louis    02/18/2003    55    58    Home       -    12232
Louisville    02/22/2003    101    80    Home       -    13176
East Carolina    02/26/2003    53    52    Home       -    12202
Memphis    03/01/2003    48    67    Away       -    20586
UAB    03/05/2003    87    70    Home       -    12524
Marquette    03/08/2003    61    70    Away       -    18790
Southern Miss.    03/12/2003    61    63    Neutral    Louisville, KY    -    9217
Gonzaga    03/20/2003    69    74    Neutral    Salt Lake City, UT    -    14378



Still got an 8 seed vs. Gonzaga.

Kinda blows the whole "last 10" theory out of the water, doesn't it.