Touchy subject...

[michigancat]

"DON'T CHANGE THE UNIFORMS, RONALD!"

[ksuno1stunner]

"we need to get rid of this (c)rap music"

[ksu_FAN]

Its coming.  Squint and try to see purple, white, silver, and (gasp) black.

[chum1]

Dennis Dixon could have kept Snyder from retiring.

[Racquetball_Ninja]

No way we go to anything that remotely resembles Oregon.  If he does there will be an overwhelming response of negativity. 

[WILDCAT NATION]

I think the whites would look quite good...

And I've always wondered what an all silver with purple trim would look like...

[ksu_FAN]

No way we go to anything that remotely resembles Oregon.  If he does there will be an overwhelming response of negativity. 

When you go "all-Nike" I think they have some more pull on what your uni's look like if you change them.  Nike has money at stake in this deal too.  We'll work together, but they'll want any changes to be "marketable", at least to some extent.  I agree that I doubt we go Oregon, but if there are changes, they will not make a lot of Wildcat fans happy I have a feeling.

[michigancat]

No way we go to anything that remotely resembles Oregon.  If he does there will be an overwhelming response of negativity. 

When you go "all-Nike" I think they have some more pull on what your uni's look like if you change them.  Nike has money at stake in this deal too.  We'll work together, but they'll want any changes to be "marketable", at least to some extent.  I agree that I doubt we go Oregon, but if there are changes, they will not make a lot of Wildcat fans happy I have a feeling.

Wildcat fans are stupid.  They'll be happy once the initial shock wears off.

[ksu_FAN]

Yeah, its interesting.  Its not like we're Penn State or something.  Sure, success and Snyder provided stability, but between the 60s and when Snyder arrived we had 13 different helmet designs.  I think there is something to be said about successful teams/programs not changing unis every other year, but I also think going all-Nike and a new (younger) coach will have some influence and bring some changes.  I think its obvious the powercat is staying, but I think we'll see some new things going on with how the jerseys and pants look going away from the Cowboy's style that we've had since 89. 

[michigancat]

I think its obvious the powercat is staying, but I think we'll see some new things going on with how the jerseys and pants look going away from the Cowboy's style that we've had since 89. 

Heh.  Everyone seems to forget that it's pretty much a blatant copy...moreso than the powercat is a ripoff of the hawkeye.

I think change can be good.  I would NEVER consider buying any of our old bball uni's, but I'm thinking about picking up some shorts if/when they're available.

[Dan Rydell]

There's something to be said for the instant recognition that comes with retaining a uniform style.   Turn on the TV, and if OU, NU (after their horrible experiment for a few years), Texas, aTm, or even Colorado are playing, you recognize them immediately.  On the other hand, teams like Mizzou and ku that change unis every few years have none of that.  Looks at ku last Saturday in their freakin' red uniforms...you turn that on, and how the heck do you know who's playing?  (Yeah, I know, check the on-screen scoreboard).

The good thing about Oregon is that it got so much pub and it's so unique that they may have gained recognition from those uniforms.  KSU just needs to be careful about tweaking the unis so that we don't lose the recognition factor.

[pissclams]

There's something to be said for the instant recognition that comes with retaining a uniform style.   Turn on the TV, and if OU, NU (after their horrible experiment for a few years), Texas, aTm, or even Colorado are playing, you recognize them immediately.  On the other hand, teams like Mizzou and ku that change unis every few years have none of that.  Looks at ku last Saturday in their freakin' red uniforms...you turn that on, and how the heck do you know who's playing?  (Yeah, I know, check the on-screen scoreboard).

The good thing about Oregon is that it got so much pub and it's so unique that they may have gained recognition from those uniforms.  KSU just needs to be careful about tweaking the unis so that we don't lose the recognition factor.

That's a good point, and to take it one step further, one concept I haven't seen yet explored would be to experiment with edible uniforms.

[ksu_FAN]

Good points slimz.  That's why I touched on that when you look at it, the programs that change a lot usually are horrid.  Just look at us in basketball, we have no "signature" basketball look outside the two-tone unis from the 80s, which is also when we were last very good outside Lon's little run.  

USC and Miami are a programs that have tweaked their unis lately but still maintained their recognizable look.  I think a lot of that lies in keeping the helmet the same.  But you look at OU, NU, Michigan, Penn State, UT, etc. and most of them have looked pretty similar for a long, long time.

I agree with Rusty that this can turn into a pretty lame discussion, as in the thread he linked, but somehow it is kind of interesting to discuss.  Go figure.

[michigancat]

There's something to be said for the instant recognition that comes with retaining a uniform style.   Turn on the TV, and if OU, NU (after their horrible experiment for a few years), Texas, aTm, or even Colorado are playing, you recognize them immediately.

You could say the same about VaTech and Miami, too.  Both have gone through quite a few changes over the years. 

I don't think our home purples would ever lose recognition factor, but do our road silver/whites really have any recognition to lose?

[michigancat]

I agree with Rusty that this can turn into a pretty lame discussion, as in the thread he linked, but somehow it is kind of interesting to discuss.  Go figure.

It is interesting, I just don't get too emotionally attached.

[ksu_FAN]

Yeah, that is kind of silly.

On your point of changes for Miami and VT (and USC), I think the fact that they haven't made large scale changes to their helmets is what has maintained their recognition.  I think it would've been the same at Nebraska had they road out the silly "we're losing b/c they changed the unis" talk from when they changed.

Even at Oregon since they've gone "crazy Nike", they've kept the helmet the same.

[Dan Rydell]

There's something to be said for the instant recognition that comes with retaining a uniform style.   Turn on the TV, and if OU, NU (after their horrible experiment for a few years), Texas, aTm, or even Colorado are playing, you recognize them immediately.

You could say the same about VaTech and Miami, too.  Both have gone through quite a few changes over the years. 

I don't think our home purples would ever lose recognition factor, but do our road silver/whites really have any recognition to lose?

As FAN said, Miami's kept the same helmet, as has VT, which helps.  Having a unique color scheme like VT maroon and orange or UM green and orange that's retained with different uniform styles helps, too.  So I agree that our home purples, even with some tweaking and provided that the helmets and pants remained silver, would be okay.  Our road silver and whites are pretty unique...if we go to black or purple (ugly) pants and away from the silver, then I think we just become another Northwestern.

[ksu_FAN]

Plus, I don't think 15 or so years of "tradition" makes our look permanent like a Penn State or a Nebraska.  With the programs like that and others listed that have hardly ever changed have been good forever.  With the programs that have made tweaks (outside of USC), they've only been good since the early 80's (Miami) at best. 

I agree with Rusty that even though the last 15 or so years have been a lot of fun, I hardly have the attachment to the Cowboys style look that I can't handle some changes to the unis.  I think it would be kind of fun, I think the kids would like it, and I think its another way that Prince can stamp this program as his.  I don't have a problem with any of that. 

I say keep the helmets the same and have some fun with the rest of the uniform.

[Racquetball_Ninja]

WHOAAAAA.  They better not F*CK WITH THE POWERCAT.  That is all.

[PurplePowerhouse]

WHOAAAAA.  They better not F*CK WITH THE POWERCAT.  That is all.

Agreed.  The Powercat stays...AS IS.  If they screw with the Powercat, all hell's gonna break loose

[fatty fat fat]

Keep the uniforms. It nice to brag that we've used the same unis since the mid 90's.

TRADITION = KSU

[Skycat]

You'll never get to a "permanent" look unless you leave them alone.  All it would really take for them to reach that status is for one more football coach to have success with teams that were wearing them.

Yeah, I know our uni's are Cowboy rip-offs, but in my opinion, which hardly matters, some stability for this program ain't bad.  But if we do see some changes, I do hope that we keep the helmets the same.

I will say that I've never seen a black and purple football uniform (Ravens, Northwestern ) that I've liked.

[ksuno1stunner]

somebody needs to photoshop our b-ball unis into football

course there's other factors like helmet and facemask colors.  all black with a visor (like tech) would be MCMW