Anyone that knows both Ivan & Dave, knows that Dave has twice the personality and none the sliminess of Ivan. There's a reason Dave Lewis was a local broadcast giant for all those years and the only time you ever heard Ivan was at KSU stadium and Bramlage. Ivan bought his way to those positions through his father-in-law...period.
Oh, and we actually stole the "good for another first down" thing from Oklahoma State....cant remember for sure which game, I think it was the one with "the drive". Ivan started doing it the next home game after that.