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Author Topic: We need 7 wins to get bowl eligible this year...  (Read 621 times)

April 30, 2009, 11:54:35 AM
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...'cause we play two D2 teams. Our other two non-con games are on the road.  Let's say we beat the two D2 teams and split those road games...how the &@#% do we win 4 conference games?

Go ahead and spend your "bowl game" money on the Puerto Rico Tournament, Big 12 Tournament, or NCCA first round. 


April 30, 2009, 11:55:26 AM
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lol@u thinking the "d2" rule still exists. bowl reps would take susan b anthony middle school if they had 6 wins.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

April 30, 2009, 12:03:13 PM
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lol@u thinking the "d2" rule still exists. bowl reps would take susan b anthony middle school if they had 6 wins.

Not true.  We need 7 wins.  It's like a rule or something.  Fitz had the details on it and everything.

Srsly, we are &@#%ed.  Brace yourself now for the inevitable.

April 30, 2009, 12:08:57 PM
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I was under the impression we needed 7 as well, but if you believe wikipedia, then it would seem possible with our schedule to get in with 6 if the other contracted spots aren't filled.

Of course that's a pretty ridiculous situation to be in and we wouldn't deserve a bowl birth anyway.  I'd like to see the NCAA require a .500 record in your league to be bowl elgible to go with current elgibility standards.

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The term bowl eligible refers to any NCAA football team that is able to play in one of the 34 bowl games that are a part of the Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS; formerly Division I-A) season. In order to be bowl eligible, a team must have a winning record, including conference and out-of-conference games, and the team must not be on probation. The NCAA allows one victory per season over a Division I FCS (formerly I-AA) team to count toward an FBS team's bowl eligibility, so long as the FCS team has supplied financial aid for football averaging out to at least 56.7 full scholarships (90% of the limit of 63 allowed to FCS schools) over the preceding two years. This prevents teams from scheduling multiple games against FCS teams in an effort to pad their win total.

Teams that are bowl eligible will usually either play in one of the bowl games that its conference is affiliated with based on conference tie-ins or the team will be chosen from the pool of remaining bowl eligible teams to fill one of the at-large positions.

On April 26, 2006, the NCAA announced that they were relaxing the rules for eligibility starting with the 2006 season, particularly in light of the new 12 game college football season. Now, teams with .500 records can qualify for bowl games if their conference has a contract with a bowl game. Also, teams with .500 records (i.e. 6-6) could earn bowl bids if all other FBS teams with winning records have been taken and postseason spots still remain vacant.[1]

Occasionally there will be more bowl eligible teams than there are spots in the NCAA football bowl games in the season. In these cases, some bowl eligible teams will not be invited to play in any NCAA football bowl game. Two NCAA rules combine to make it unlikely, though possible, that a team with seven wins will be left out of a bowl game:

Bowl games that have a contract with a conference must select a team with at least seven wins if one is available.
Any bowl berths not already filled by contract must be filled by a team with seven wins before any spare 6-6 team can be accommodated.
In 2008, these rules will affect bowls contracted to the Big 12 and Pac-10, which each have at least one more bowl slot than eligible teams. The same applies to bowls contracted to the SEC. However, the WAC has a contingency agreement with one of the Pac-10's bowls so since the Pac-10 doesn't have a sufficient number of teams to fulfill their bowl contracts, then the Poinsettia Bowl will select a team from the WAC. The same contingency agreement applies to the Sun Belt Conference and the Papa John's, Independence & St. Petersburg Bowls.

There is a special case where a team can finish with a losing record and still appear in a bowl game. If a team wins their conference, they are given a waiver of the bowl eligibility requirements if they end up with an overall losing record.

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30.9.2.1 Exceptions - 12 Game Season. During each year in which an institution is permitted to participate in 12 regular-season football games, an institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be selected for participation in a bowl game if that institution is a member of a conference with which the bowl organization has a contractual affiliation, and there is no other team in that conference qualified for selection per Bylaw 30.9.2. If the conference with which the bowl is affiliated has no other institution that is qualified for selection or a team with a 6-6 record, the bowl may invite a team with a 6-6 regular-season record from another conference with which it does not have an affiliation only if there is no other team with a 7-5 record available in the Division I FBS. Additionally, a bowl game without a conference affiliation may invite any team with a record of six wins and six losses if there is no team with a 7-5 record available in the Division I FBS. During a season in which an institution competes in 13 regular season contests, the institution must establish a record of seven wins, six losses or better to qualify for bowl selection.


April 30, 2009, 03:07:40 PM
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If we get 6, we will go. Look - bowls are about dead presidents, not how good a team is. Every Bowl jackass-in-charge knows that KSU travels like no other. If we get 6 wins, we are in a bowl. NOW, what quality bowl? Pure speculation, but I would think it will be laughable.

May 01, 2009, 12:27:10 AM
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lol@u thinking the "d2" rule still exists. bowl reps would take susan b anthony middle school if they had 6 wins.

Not true.  We need 7 wins.  It's like a rule or something.  Fitz had the details on it and everything.

Srsly, we are fracked.  Brace yourself now for the inevitable.
Well sh1t if Fitz reported it then it has to be true. "ITS PATTERSON"  :lol:
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May 01, 2009, 12:58:48 PM
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If it's not Holiday Bowl status or greater, I don't want it.  The rest should be eliminated.  Nobody even cares about them, other than the two retards fighting for the emerald walnut ring that they're eventually going to put up for bid on Ebay.

May 01, 2009, 01:07:35 PM
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If it's not Holiday Bowl status or greater, I don't want it.  The rest should be eliminated.  Nobody even cares about them, other than the two retards fighting for the emerald walnut ring that they're eventually going to put up for bid on Ebay.



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May 01, 2009, 03:26:38 PM
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If it's not Holiday Bowl status or greater, I don't want it.  The rest should be eliminated.  Nobody even cares about them, other than the two retards fighting for the emerald walnut ring that they're eventually going to put up for bid on Ebay.

Alamo is a good time....and there is also a football game. Yeah, our memory of that bowl still sucks but the Riverwalk is a good enough reason to drive down to San Antone for the Holidays.

But yeah, the Sun Bowl, Insight, Forth Worth Bowl, Texas Bowl are all pretty low rent....but again, a reason to print shirts, keep your fanbase in it...recruit...and the extra practice is nice too.
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May 01, 2009, 11:48:52 PM
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If we get 6, we will go. Look - bowls are about dead presidents, not how good a team is. Every Bowl jackass-in-charge knows that KSU travels like no other. If we get 6 wins, we are in a bowl. NOW, what quality bowl? Pure speculation, but I would think it will be laughable.

yes you do need 7 wins to go, by laws state that only 1 div FCS game counts for bowl purposes...

May 01, 2009, 11:50:30 PM
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If we get 6, we will go. Look - bowls are about dead presidents, not how good a team is. Every Bowl jackass-in-charge knows that KSU travels like no other. If we get 6 wins, we are in a bowl. NOW, what quality bowl? Pure speculation, but I would think it will be laughable.

yes you do need 7 wins to go, by laws state that only 1 div FCS game counts for bowl purposes...

NU fans are so  :lol:
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