Updated Big 12 COTY as of 3.2 (this is a pole)

[pissclams]

clams . . . it is a "legitimate point", just ask bentard and he'll tell ya so.

he's really reaching critical mass.  here i am raising and defending the bill seff for B12 COTY honors and he's arguing with me that it's 100% all because of what Bill Seff has done and that the conference is just as strong as it's ever been, etc.  it's pretty mind numbing.

[sonofdaxjones]

clams . . . it is a "legitimate point", just ask bentard and he'll tell ya so.

he's really reaching critical mass.  here i am raising and defending the bill seff for B12 COTY honors and he's arguing with me that it's 100% all because of what Bill Seff has done and that the conference is just as strong as it's ever been, etc.  it's pretty mind numbing.

massa seff will win it . . . I don't think he really deserves it myself, the 80% phogtard talking point not-with-standing . . . good players are good players and they got plenty of experience last year in two key roles to more than make up for any youth. 

[BMWJhawk]

clams . . . it is a "legitimate point", just ask bentard and he'll tell ya so.

I'm not saying the Big 12 is the Big East or the ACC.  However, it's arguably the 3rd-best conference, unless you want to make an argument for the Pac 10, SEC, or Big 10.  

[BMWJhawk]

clams . . . it is a "legitimate point", just ask bentard and he'll tell ya so.

he's really reaching critical mass.  here i am raising and defending the bill seff for B12 COTY honors and he's arguing with me that it's 100% all because of what Bill Seff has done and that the conference is just as strong as it's ever been, etc.  it's pretty mind numbing.

Clams, that's not even close to what I'm saying.  I've never denied that ku has talent.  Of course ku has talent... but most of that talent was completely inexperienced to start the season.  Only two players (Collins and Aldrich) played any sort of significant minutes last season.  Oklahoma State has two McDonald AA's, and they're not sitting at 13-1 in the Big 12.  Don't get all pissed because I think Bill Self has done a hell of a job this season. 

[pissclams]

clams . . . it is a "legitimate point", just ask bentard and he'll tell ya so.

he's really reaching critical mass.  here i am raising and defending the bill seff for B12 COTY honors and he's arguing with me that it's 100% all because of what Bill Seff has done and that the conference is just as strong as it's ever been, etc.  it's pretty mind numbing.

massa seff will win it . . . I don't think he really deserves it myself, the 80% phogtard talking point not-with-standing . . . good players are good players and they got plenty of experience last year in two key roles to more than make up for any youth. 

he deserves it if you follow how the big 12 COTY has been handed out before, that's why i picked him as the winner in the first place. just going off past years.

[pissclams]

clams . . . it is a "legitimate point", just ask bentard and he'll tell ya so.

he's really reaching critical mass.  here i am raising and defending the bill seff for B12 COTY honors and he's arguing with me that it's 100% all because of what Bill Seff has done and that the conference is just as strong as it's ever been, etc.  it's pretty mind numbing.

Clams, that's not even close to what I'm saying.  I've never denied that ku has talent.  Of course ku has talent... but most of that talent was completely inexperienced to start the season.  Only two players (Collins and Aldrich) played any sort of significant minutes last season.  Oklahoma State has two McDonald AA's, and they're not sitting at 13-1 in the Big 12.  Don't get all pissed because I think Bill Self has done a hell of a job this season. 

i'm not pissed.  far from it.
your team has gotten better as it has gained experience.  this is a common theme amongst a lot of teams (see K-State).  Bill Seff team has done what Bill Seff's team was supposed to do, get better over time.  OSU doesn't have the talent that ku does, terrible strawman attempt.

[billself13]

I just wanted to drop by and let all of you guise know how &@#%ing awesome it is to be Bill Self.

It's &@#%ing awesome. That is all. 

[BMWJhawk]

clams . . . it is a "legitimate point", just ask bentard and he'll tell ya so.

he's really reaching critical mass.  here i am raising and defending the bill seff for B12 COTY honors and he's arguing with me that it's 100% all because of what Bill Seff has done and that the conference is just as strong as it's ever been, etc.  it's pretty mind numbing.

Clams, that's not even close to what I'm saying.  I've never denied that ku has talent.  Of course ku has talent... but most of that talent was completely inexperienced to start the season.  Only two players (Collins and Aldrich) played any sort of significant minutes last season.  Oklahoma State has two McDonald AA's, and they're not sitting at 13-1 in the Big 12.  Don't get all pissed because I think Bill Self has done a hell of a job this season. 

i'm not pissed.  far from it.
your team has gotten better as it has gained experience.  this is a common theme amongst a lot of teams (see K-State).  Bill Seff team has done what Bill Seff's team was supposed to do, get better over time.  OSU doesn't have the talent that ku does, terrible strawman attempt.

I've said since last year that ku would be an Elite Eight team by March.  I knew this team would be good.  I didn't think they'd go 15-1 in the Big 12 and be playing for a 1-seed.  

[sonofdaxjones]

Kind of tells you what a watered down sport men's college basketball has become.

[BMWJhawk]

Kind of tells you what a watered down sport men's college basketball has become.

The ultimate tapout.

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Kind of tells you what a watered down sport men's college basketball has become.

The ultimate tapout.

 

Yeah Bentard  . . . like I want to spend the rest of the day with some 22 year old kutard who thinks all he posts is "legitimate points" talking about who should be the Big 12 COTY, when the kutard already made it clear who the kutard thinks should be Big 12 COTY.   

[BMWJhawk]

Kind of tells you what a watered down sport men's college basketball has become.

The ultimate tapout.

 

Yeah Bentard  . . . like I want to spend the rest of the day with some 22 year old kutard who thinks all he posts is "legitimate points" talking about who should be the Big 12 COTY, when the kutard already made it clear who the kutard thinks should be Big 12 COTY.   

What lengths won't you go to in order to degrade ku?  Frank Martin as Big 12 COY?  I mean... are you kidding me?


 

[sonofdaxjones]

So I am not entitled to my own opinion  . . . I have to completely fellate ku like you do??

That's fascinating.

[BMWJhawk]

So I am not entitled to my own opinion  . . . I have to completely fellate ku like you do??

That's fascinating.

Your opinion is influenced by your unparalleled hatred for ku.  My opinion is based on the fact that ku is 13-1 in the Big 12 and top 10 in the country, a year after losing all five starters and 80% of its scoring/rebounding.


 

[steve dave]

Frank Martin as Big 12 COY?  I mean... are you kidding me?

The truth is, Martin would probably be the front-runner for Big 12 coach of the year if it weren't for the turnaround Mike Anderson has guided at Missouri. Infusing his own never-back-down approach into his players, Martin has turned a team lacking star power into a cohesive, defensive-minded unit that can beat nearly any team on any given night.

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=523338

[sonofdaxjones]

My view is based on a team that lost 70% of its scoring, and wasn't picked any higher than 8th or 9th, that has zero McD AA's, starts Lu Colon and Darren Kent inside with the caveat of K-State winning 10 games in conference.   The reality  for you, is that you're too much of Mongoloid to understand that.  

[BMWJhawk]

My view is based on a team that lost 70% of its scoring, and wasn't picked any higher than 8th or 9th, that has zero McD AA's, starts Lu Colon and Darren Kent inside with the caveat of K-State winning 10 games in conference.   The reality  for you, is that you're too much of Mongoloid to understand that.  

ku has eight wins vs. the RPI top 50, 3rd-most in the country.  Who has K-State beaten?  A&M?  Texas?  Missouri?  Your non-con was a joke and your team is currently 8-6 and tied for 4th in the Big 12.  Meh.

[sonofdaxjones]

Bentard . . . still playing the role of the chick who has to get the last word in . . . 

[cireksu]

anderson for sure.

[VGibsonLives]

anderson for sure.

GMAFB, Anderson is riding Snyder's 'cruit, Lawrence.